Knicks made offer for Kevin Durant at trade deadline, Should New York get him? | FIRST THINGS FIRST
uh welcome back to the show we’re going to take a quick break from the NBA finals to talk about the huge NBA story brewing in New York there’s two prongs to this okay prong one mark Stein says the Knicks have asked permission to talk to Mavs coach Jason Kidd who famously not only poured a cup of ice on himself but also famously coach Giannis and who was heartbroken when he left prong two shawn’s reporting that the Knicks made a trade deadline offer for KD that didn’t get off the ground but they are expected to revisit the pairing in the offseason so Brew there’s two prongs there your reaction to both prongs well there’s a lot there obviously here’s the first thing if you interview Jason Kid he better get the job i mean if I’m Jason Kid and someone asked to interview me and I tell them to Matt look I’m going to go interview with the Knicks you know you gave permission and then they interview me and I don’t get it like how am I going I mean seriously like how do you coach your team now tough stuff yeah like you if you you have to know and this Jason Kid I get it everybody should interview but you know what you’re getting with Jason Kid yes all right so it’s like you if this is true like it seems like he’s their guy he h if they give you permission it’s got to be his job because he can’t go back to the Mavericks and coach them a great and you know what Jason Kid is you don’t need you know him to sit there and tell you so that’s number one also as you said look it makes sense and Nick had the theory which I don’t necessarily believe but it’s interesting considering this his theory was that the Knicks got word somehow that if they have certain guy as a coach Giannis will be more interested so you know Jaylen Brunson is fine with Kid because he played for him in Dallas you know Giannis had a great relationship with Kid in Milwaukee so that look if all that could come together praise the Lord you know you do it all right as far as KD let’s say you can’t get Giannis KD I’m not giving up obviously Brunson i’m not giving up Towns for KD and I’ll be honest I don’t really want to give up OG not OG and and Hart and Bridges because if I were to get like I only want KD if I still have Towns and Brunson all right but to give up all those other guys now I don’t have much many defenders and tough isn’t much of a defender no but he but Towns is not even 30 years old yet kd is going to be 37 in September kd’s injury prone he got hurt in the layup line and KD basically Towns scores as much as KD towns averaged 24 and a half this year kd averaged 26 and a half towns doubles him in rebounds so I get the same scoring from KD twice as many rebounds it’s a good argument i just I would not give up towns for KD if I can get KD somehow and keep the bulk of my team which is asking a lot then I do it otherwise at 37 and KD we know is an all-time great but at 37 for Towns who’s not even 30 yet no I’m not okay like you said a lot of Prongs lot a lot of things going on here uh a lot of ins a lot of outs complicated case um I don’t think the Knicks were that close to a championship even though they were two wins away from the NBA Finals i think a lot of things broke their way two crazy wins against the Celtics and then a Tatum injury they don’t have to play the one seed in Cleveland who dominated them in the regular season cleveland was hurt they lose to Indiana i don’t think Brunson and Towns complement each other all that well like if your two best players and your two highest paid guys neither one of them is a two-way guy they’re both bad defensive players it’s tough to win it’s tough to build a truly competitive team i think that can be sustainable around them so I don’t think if you add KD cuz I instead of Town instead of Towns you you got the same issue exactly the two best players don’t defend that’s what I’m saying swapping out Towns for KD i don’t think that they’re a championship team so it would be interesting it would be exciting we would talk about them even more than we already do because he’s Kevin Durant he’s one of the 20 greatest players ever but I don’t think Kevin Durant in place of Carl Anthony Towns makes the Knicks a championship team i don’t giannis oh yeah with Brunson like let Wild’s coach the team like you know like let anybody coach let let anybody coach the team i just said good you didn’t say me you I can go hey if you can get Giannis you let anybody coach the team he’s one of the three best players in the world he is a two-way player he compliments Brunson beautifully now I have no reason to believe that the Bucks will would accept a Carl Anthony Towns for Giannis like as the central pieces of that trade right the only world that this exists which is I suppose the hypothetical world we’re living in is if Giannis demands a trade and says it has to be to the Knicks and the Bucks say “Okay you’ve done everything for us and more that we could have asked for we’re going to try to get you to the place that you want to go.” But I don’t Do you do you like and I said this last week if I’m the Bucks and Giannis comes to me and says exactly what I want to go to New York and that’s the only place I want to go okay I guess you’re staying here like unless the Knicks can put together a deal probably three or four team deal where I get what we want and I’ll work with you Giannis Houston San any team i’ll work with you if we can get back what we need to go forward but I’m not just sending you to New York because you’ll want to go there when you have three years left on your deal that’s the difference most team guys that do this demand force their way Anthony Davis forced his way to the Lakers he had like a year and a half left on his deal right giannis is much different than that so to me he can’t force his way anywhere if I’m if I’m running the Bucks y Giannis is just a very unique superstar in my opin like other than Steph Curry to the Warriors I don’t think there’s a player playing in the NBA today that means more to their franchise and their city than Giannis does to Milwaukee like Bruce you’ll remember like before Giannis there was a story like are the Bucks going to leave Milwaukee right the the league owned the stadium are they going to be able Like that is quite literally the house that Giannis built they got a new stadium they kept the they kept the team in Milwaukee a homegrown championship a historic game six to to win where he scores 50 he is 15th pick in the draft he is everything that a franchise could have ever possibly wanted he’s he signed three extensions with the Bucks he’s they’ve given him new coaches and new players and new superstars so I am like a sentimentalist he he rever Kobe i hope that his career is Kobe’s i hope that he stays in Milwaukee for forever but if he decides that chasing a second ring because Dame’s injury they’ve given up all the draft picks the cap situation if he’s decided that a second ring is more important than trying to be Kobe or Duncan one team one superstar one career then I do think because of what he meant to that franchise they might take 40 cents on the dollar it It would be It would be bad they still have to exist after you you leave us i know in the in the billion dollar building that you built they might you’re right some they might but I I think that would be ridiculous it’s just he has given them everything and more well you haven’t done it for free no doubt i mean we we’ve paid you handsomely and again I I would work with him don’t get me wrong i would definitely work with him okay here’s your list we’ll work with Nick Knicks can be on the list i’m just saying at the end of the day Giannis this is what we want and we have to get I’ll take maybe 90 cents on the dollar you know something like that 85 no I I I’m not just doing it just to appease him can I circle back to the Jason Kid piece because I don’t remember and Brew you might be able to pull it off the top of your head or Danny the last time that this type of request has happened in the league where you have a job I but I’m going to ask if you want to break your contract so does this at all speak to dysfunction i’m just trying to get underneath there oh you mean in Dallas in doubt so you also have I could see if Jason Kidd was like you know this Luca thing happened i I wasn’t a part of the decision-m process i’m unhappy but now you got a chance to coach Cooper flag who you feel like oh all of a sudden you know and I’ve got a longer runway what do you think the even the request means and and should he enter you’re saying he shouldn’t even entertain it or he should no I’m saying it’s not an interview if you if you want me to actually go to the or if you want the Mavs to give you permission to talk to me it better be a done deal but is it like a basically a break you know what I mean like a mutual like divorce i don’t know there’s also this is also just Well you could get draft picks too cuz when Doc Rivers you know left the Clippers they got it was draft picks for that you can trade coaches this is also This is Knicks hubris this is New York ego capital of the world there’s also some talk like are they going to request permission to get email Udoka well that’s look as much as I like kid Udoka if I could get a coach that’s already coaching a differencemaking coach like Udoka is my he’s my first choice but see my first choice is whoever gets me Giannis well yeah yeah I agree absolutely that if that could work out through back channels and CAA connections and New York over everything like if if you if kid can get me Giannis absolutely welcome Jason the contract negotiation is going to be very awkward a lot of by the way I want to be paid what Giannis is paid because you’re right though as bad as it looks in Dallas I can coach Cooper flag I don’t have to go now if I’m kid I’d rather be in in the east for sure you definitely want to be in the east rather than there in the west even if you have Oh I don’t know i just got to the other previous coach got to the Eastern Conference Finals and got fired yeah that’s strange thanks for watching subscribe here to get more from the show and to check out clips from other shows on FS1
The New York Knicks made an offer for Kevin Durant at the trade deadline, and is expected to request permission to interview Jason Kidd for their vacant HC position. Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes, and Danny Parkins ask if Kevin Durant would be a good fit for the Knicks, and if Jason Kidd should speak to New York.
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The spurs have the best offer to give. With those draft picks they have this year
KD is the perfect player for any contender if they don’t have to give up most of there depth. Especially in the west. I think KD should consider going back to the eastern conference. The west is loaded and next season a few teams in the east will be sleeper teams just missing that one piece. Especially since Boston won’t be at full effect next season
Yeah trade one soft big for another
Honestly everybody getting spoiled. Just let your team play and develop as a unit, look at denver, look at okc, look at boston, look at indiana, look at all recent champions, everybody always calling for trades cause thats good for media. Knicks already have a team with potential to win it all, they just need to find a good coach and let them grow
Don’t wanna see if on the knicks either spurs or twovles
Brunson and that entire team would benefit greatly if J Kidd is the head coach
fake Nick?
Yes. They need him or Giannis. Preferably Giannis 😂
Jason Kidd is overrated as a coach. All he has done is meet minimum expectations with a MVP caliber player.
Kd washed
"I talked to KD he going to the Spurs" (⚡4life)
Noooooo
Kidd,…yeeessss
Who would think.. in 2025.. choosing between karl anthony towns and Kevin Durant… Would actually be a THING !!!! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
The disrespect on KD is crazy. The guy is 50-40-90. Still one of best scorers. Can create any shot he wants. Keep having fun with Brunson the only person who can create his own shot.
I don't think that much broke the Knicks way. They were going to beat the Celtics in 5. The only reason there was a Game 6 was Tatum's injury caused the team to rally and fight much harder than they would have done. The Celtics are a really well constructed team, but so are the Knicks. The Celtics didn't play very well in the series but again neither did the Knicks. I'm not saying that's necessarily Thib's fault, but a new coach could lead to the Knicks playing up to their potential, which we haven't really seen yet. But more to the point, Tatum is out for the year, so, unless the Celtics flip Tatum for Giannis–which they aren't going to do–the Celtics aren't going to be a threat to the Knicks next year, and we don't know what that roster will look like when Tatum gets back.
The Cavs getting injured and knocked out obviously wasn't so lucky for the Knicks, as they didn't beat the Pacers anyway. And the Cavs may see some upheaval this offseason. A Garland trade, for example.
Yes, the Knicks are going to have to get through the Pacers or the Cavs but neither of those teams is obviously much more talented than New York, and, again, with a new HC, New York might be a stronger team next year. Even if Thibs was still there, the Knicks still had a chance. They were, after all, favored over the Pacers. And the Pacers have done what they've done with historically great performances. Not just historically great but so much better than anything else like it in history that it seems like a fluke that cannot be sustained. I genuinely hope the Pacers win the title this year, but I'm not going to go into next season assuming Haliburton is going to continue to shoot NINETY PERCENT in the clutch. The best clutch shooters ever averaged in the 40s and 50s… I'm also not going to assume the Pacers will continue, next season, to win games where they're down 7 points in the final minute at a rate literally a thousand times higher than the league average. So, I don't think the Knicks are that far off. KD would be a great piece to add if they don't have to give up OG, Bridges, Hart, Brunson, or KAT, as Brou said.
Please don't get Kidd, I really want Brunson to get a ring.
Nick Wright shaved?
Brou still running that super team scenario that doesnt work anymore
I don’t believe that. KD can move anymore. He’s still good, but he makes too much. I don’t see anyone trading a star for him.
He’s going to Miami
Giannis is going to gsw
If you are saying what you saying, If they fired thibs to get Giannis, then it should be a done deal. You can't fire your head coach who took you to the conference finals, try to get Kidd who's under contract and then wait for an unlikely deal with the Bucks. These seems a bunch of improbable things that should happen to get Giannis and yet the 1st thing in the process actually happened. What I'm saying is this whole thing is a sham to get NYK back in the news. Not going to happen.
The fundamental problem with this analysis is that it only examines the trade from the Knicks' perspective. That's a sufficient but not necessary condition for a successful deal. The key question is: why would the trading team agree to this? What do they gain? I don't see the Suns agreeing to a deal with the Knicks when Durant is in his final contract year and they're desperately trying to get below the first apron. They're currently over $23M above the first apron and $11M over the second apron.
The first one to follow Giannis's wife on social media is getting Giannis.
4:49 “im right here” 🤣🤣
Yes, get him if possible.
Jeez, durant? He's injured. So, say like they do get him, make sure they get rid of Mitchell. I'm assuming Durant will be the back up for Katz. Demand that Katz loose weight so he can run up and down the court. Same with OG. Keep Josh, bridges and some of the bench. With this said, it's possible to get through the second round. With Giannis at least we can get to the ECF again and the finals.
I dont want to hear about Cleveland. They are kings of regular season. They always flop in the playoffs
I think the only thing missing is that KD is a playoff performer
AS USUAL THE KNICKS WANT KD ON HIS WAY OUT THE LEAGUE. THE KNICKS ARE FAMOUS FOR GETTING HAS BEEN PLAYER. MARK JACKSON SHOULD BE THE NEW HEAD COACH!!
Fake Nick. Is Danny a better Nick than Nick???
3:30 I was like wait a min that's not nick
Giannis going to the warriors
4:55 “he didn’t say me”😂😂😂
Giannis to OKC for J Dub, Wiggins and 3 first round picks
I think a lot of things broke the pacers way. Particularly that Cavs series. IMO the Cavs lost that series because they were soft not because the pacers were the better team
Kevin with booker no rings with kyrie no ring with wesbrook no ring he was lucky to played with steph and warriors dynasty 😮facts
Knicks will have to give too much to get kevin …5 years too long to get kevin😮
Giannis will help the knicks win a championship but not 😅😮durant
Give me giannis any time not kevin durcant😮knicks fan 😊
Give me giannis any time not kevin durcant😮knicks fan 😊
Basketball sucks, the same guys being rotated to the the same top 5 teams every year! and then we want to act their elite. Make something pop in Washington then I'll see if you're really that guy.
Leave kd with his mother
KD is just a burden right now.