Look out if Giannis Antetokounmpo ends up with Knicks – Ray Allen | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports

Look out if Giannis Antetokounmpo ends up with Knicks – Ray Allen | Dan Patrick Show | NBC Sports

ray Allen great golfer and one of the great shooters of all time joining us on the program you played Oakmont Ray nope i never have yep yep toughest course you played uh to date the toughest course I would have to say is I I’ll say on Homeland I would say Madina in Chicago and then just recently a couple of months ago I played Cabbat St lucia and it was a beast how is Jordan’s uh as far as the test of skills his course uh the Grove um the Grove is it’s not difficult uh because you can you can pretty much hit it anywhere off the tea um greens get you know really fast i think you have to really know how to chip around there you know you get around the green and it’s like you know it for the for the first couple of rounds it was like I didn’t even want to play the place because I couldn’t get up and down i was like blade and everything and I realized the bounce on my wedge was was too high for that course so you got to have a low bounce uh because the grass is really tight does Michael make the course to his liking um I would say that he plays it uh fairly well um because distance really isn’t uh a factor there uh the way he plays it he doesn’t hit the ball far uh but he gets up and down from everywhere so um he gets the ball in front of the green he’s going to get up and down and and he’s a great he’s probably the best putter that I’ve seen you know amateur um so um you you lose a lot of Ry Greens there and he’s really good there uh okay a couple of uh things here uh Grown is the first uh organic fast food restaurant founded by uh by you in Miami right yeah my wife and I all right all right so Shannon and Ray created Grown and uh you launched a nationwide franchising program look at you look at you branching out all right yeah i mean uh you know you get those people who talk about getting a trainer and I need to work on losing weight but you know our bodies are created by how we eat and you know that’s kind of been the cornerstone of my career uh focusing on how to eat correctly uh I had a nutritionist for the first time in 2010 and even then I I I sculpted myself you know to even uh greater point just understanding what not to eat you know eating at the right times specifically for a professional athlete and so that’s the thing people were dealing with we’re we’re at this crossroads in this country where we’re eating so poorly the foods that that are uh we have access to uh they’re killing us And so we’ve been on a all organic diet my wife and I my family my kids and specifically my son Walker since he was diagnosed with diabetes at 17 months so putting foods in our body to make sure that we don’t take on those chemicals you know those those processes and those GMOs like super important and that’s one of the reasons that we exist is to make sure that we provide food for people you know in Miami we have a drive-thru so providing food for people that allow them uh to eat foods without the guilt uh foods that they could uh prepare for their families food that they can eat on the go uh if you’re looking for uh exploring franchise opportunities at grown.org or email at uh franchisegrown.org talking to Ray Allen I noticed this on social media where there was a discussion about LeBron doesn’t have the bag now I didn’t realize what they were saying so I asked Marvin he interpreted that since he’s younger and he says “That means that he doesn’t have go-to moves.” I thought it was money was the bag and he goes “No it can mean a lot of things.” So LeBron doesn’t have the bag what does that mean to you um well I think over the course of a a player’s career you you kind of consistently see what they can do on a regular basis and they do that you pay to see them play you go watch them play and they do that move that they do consistently and they nobody could stop it um you know there’s so many players over the the history and and just kind of when you look at the the NBA today we’ve lost a lot of skill uh from that standpoint because even when I came into the league we had mid-range players we had great pick and roll players we had great uh postup players and so now it’s it’s kind of like you’re looking at a league of guys that you know you’re shooting uh it’s a lot of one-on-one stuff you’re shooting a lot of threes uh and and ironically between OKC and um Indiana they’re probably two of the few teams in the NBA that are shooting mid-ranges and and and that’s evident in how they got here today to be in these finals because they’re not relying on analytics to only shoot threes they’re making sure they get into the paint so when they have those scoring droughts Hallebertton drives like uh in the game seven against New York he just or game six I think it was Hallebertton just just pick and rolls got into the paint and he scored and so so ultimately when you talk about a guy having a bag it’s having that pet move where they can get to it and nobody could stop it and and LeBron has always been an unstoppable undeniable force where if you put a bigger guy on him he can’t keep up with him because he doesn’t have the footwork and put a smaller guy on him he doesn’t have the size so LeBron’s never really had to have a pet move because he can just go downhill and score over everybody yeah but you know the casual fan doesn’t appreciate that Ray they don’t they don’t see what you see they want to see like oh my god there’s a skyhook or Iverson breaking ankles uh you know LeBron with physicality you know nobody’s going to go “Wow look at that.” And you know Jordan had the aesthetics i mean he had you know whether it was the fadeaway uh going to the hoop all of those things it just feels like because LeBron doesn’t look his game doesn’t look pretty you know therefore he doesn’t have a bag well I mean also it’s statistic driven the league is because the guys are scoring more so being able to get to the free throw line being able to score in transition and and take the first shot available you know you really don’t have to because I think even uh with with Giannis um the year before they won the NBA championship in Milwaukee you can see that he was trying to play a certain way where he had to have the ball in his hands he was trying to make a move and he didn’t have it he didn’t have that skill set and it hurt Milwaukeekey’s offense and then the the following year when he started kind of moving the ball got the ball to Drew drew was their their one of their go-tos and then uh Middleton was was a guy who down the stretch would uh score a lot for him and so Giannis stayed in his lane where he got uh scored in transition you know if he got a wide open shot he took it uh but he didn’t over assess his abilities and I think a lot of times that’s what it boils down to is just understanding who you are just sticking that you have to rely on your team so with LeBron you know that’s just the pop culture way of saying that there he doesn’t have a go-to move that people can rely on on seeing from him every night but he’s still as much as he’s in the game he’s still going to score 25 plus points a night just because he has pure dominance talking to Ray Allen the Hall of Famer explain to me the Jason Kidd situation brian Winhor said there’s mutual interest Jason Kidd and the Knicks uh him coaching the Knicks you have Cooper Flag coming to Dallas and why would he want to leave that and you’re gonna go to the Knicks and the only thing I thought of is I’m bringing in Jason Kid if he can bring in Giannis if Giannis says “All right I want to go play for Jason Kid in New York.” Other than that why would Jason Kid want to coach the Knicks instead of the Mavericks so th this is pretty interesting uh conversation because even when Tibs was fired uh last week everybody was like “Well he made it to the conference finals how how can you fire a guy like that?” A lot of times we’re you know in the in the outside world because even when I was on the inside things were happening in locker rooms that people had no idea as to what was taking place and so people had opinions and I think a lot of times and you nailed it there’s things that are going on behind the scenes that we’re kind of not privy to so there is there could be you know some type of deal being worked where all these pieces kind of you know fall in place and then all of a sudden it just kind of happens they fall like dominoes so do you think is going to be traded to the Knicks well I mean I know he’s been quing about u leaving Milwaukee and I think uh it’s going to come down to kind of the best deal that Milwaukee sees necessary leaving for him to leave Milwaukee and understanding the void that that that leaves Milwaukee you know they really want to get something for him so it it will depend on you know what that looks like when I got traded from uh from Seattle to Boston I remember sitting in my room and the trade the draft was happening and then I seen proposed trade and it was like Boston’s giving up like six players i was like “Oh I’m so out of here.” And it said proposed and nobody called me but the way I saw the what uh Boston was giving up I was like “Yeah se Seattle’s taking that easily.” So it will depend on you know how Milwaukee can set themselves up for for their future and who they get back in return uh but you know look out Eastern Conference and NBA if if Giannis ends up in New York because obviously it’s a huge market it’s great market for him and with the SE success that they’ve had um recently with New York um but it it is going to require them giving up one of their core players that they have right now if OKC wins this let’s say they win it in five or six will they be recognized as one of the great singles teams of all time uh you know it’s hard to say that but you to your point it’s amazing that they haven’t gotten the the do you know they won 68 games this year uh my two championship season we won 66 teams so definitely uh from a record standpoint they have to be given uh that respect and that due um in the same token they’re so young so I don’t think people expected him them to get there to this point even you you take a team like Cleveland being the number one seed and I think they had the best record in the NBA uh throughout the year most people aren’t surprised that they’re not here right now because they were so young and the fact that OKC made it you would have thought it would have been Cleveland OKC but the fact that OKC made it you know the game is so different now because of the three-point shooting it shoots teams in and out of the game in the same token and you see the volatility is so great you know you’re watching the game team is down 20 and all of a sudden fourth quarter it’s a tie ball game and and and a lot of that does have to do with you know being able to have certainty scoring and that mid-range game you know it has to come back to that you know because there’s too much consistency in being able to uh sustain you know or or come out of a the other day uh OKC came out of a timeout and uh uh I don’t know what the score was but Indiana was was up quite a bit and um Dagnaw called a timeout and then they came out and I was telling my son let’s see what they run out of a timeout and I think it was Dort that started with the ball on the wing at the top of the screen and then he swung it you know pick and roll swung to to uh Shay and then he used pick and roll he got all the way downhill and they scored a layup and that I said that right there is amazing execution out of a timeout because it slowed them down they got easy bucket and they were able to get back and set their defense up look at you teaching moments there with your uh with your family it’s Yeah you’re not just a three-point shooter Ray i mean you No well dad definitely is uh leading the uh leading the charge these days yeah but you used to go down the lane and dunk people always go “Man Ray is a great three-point shooter.” I said “You didn’t see him early in his career then because you were attacking.” Yeah and here’s the fascinating thing about that um in Milwaukee and in Seattle Milwaukee we basically played like a a West Coast offense you know so we got the ball we shot quick you know we kind we had like a spread offense we didn’t really have a post guy uh we could throw it down there to some guys that could score um and then those two places once I moved to Boston then we we were more traditional to NBA basketball you know with KG and Perkins on the block and you know throw the ball in the paint and then kick it back out and then so it it it kind of set my feet a little more than I had uh been in my career didn’t mean that I still couldn’t dunk and I still you know couldn’t get to the to the hole um it did just change how I played and and the most important uh aspect of that when you think about it when I came to Boston I had to decide do am I going to try to do this on my terms or do I want to do it on the team’s terms and and and ultimately you win a championship because you have to adapt it’s not the strongest or smartest that survive it’s the ones most willing to adapt in that situation it was difficult because I went from shooting 16 17 shots a game to eight or nine but that’s what it took in order for us to win a championship kg yell at you a lot uh KG just yelled a lot period you know you know we we always you know I remember we we play our first game was in Rome and you know before the game I’m in here just dribbling the ball getting ready i’m excited this is the first uh game together and then he looks over at me and he’s kind of moving to the locker room he looks over me he goes “How long you going to be doing that?” And I was like “Doing what?” And I’m just sitting there dribbling between my legs he’s like “You going to be dribbling the whole time?” I said “Yeah we’re about to play a basketball game this is what you do.” Um and and that was the moment where you got alpha alpha males just kind of you know kind of banging up against each other because our pre the previous year he was in the locker room where he was the guy I was the locker room I was a guy and everything kind of you know marched to the beat of our drums and so now we had to learn to share space with other individuals like ourselves and it was it was an eye openener but it it it did it taught you taught me how to say okay in order for this to We have to share space and we got to understand like this is not just my show anymore good to talk to you Ray thanks for joining us and good luck with the uh the restaurant it’s called Grown it’s a organic fast food restaurant and uh you want information about exploring franchise opportunities it’s uh grown.org or uh franchisegrown.org thank you Ray we’ll take a break we’re back after this

Basketball Hall of Famer Ray Allen joins the Dan Patrick Show to discuss potential trade suitors for Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron’s go-to move, where this Oklahoma City Thunder team ranks all-time and more. #DanPatrickShow #NBA #NBCSports #Knicks
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