Potential NBA Draft steals for the Washington Wizards

Potential NBA Draft steals for the Washington Wizards

what is up Wizards fans welcome in to another Believe in Wizards podcast i’m Matt Monno i’m pleased to be joined here again by Kevin Broom man is back by popular demand the last episode was very wellreceived where we went through just a ton of people uh like the one negative comment we got was it was too many people and it wasn’t structured enough so today there was a little more structure we’re each going to talk about three guys i’m now putting three in air quotes because I couldn’t whittle my list down of guys that you know I think uh are just drastically underrated right now and Kevin’s got his list so maybe we’ll like focus on our three main guys and then do some honorable mentions and then also should eliminate you know any redundancy because we do end up more aligned on some of these guys than than we think despite kind of taking different looks at it so uh Kevin first just starters man how are you how are things hey I’m good i’m enjoying the NBA finals that game one was freaking nice i got to do a quick plug because um I’m having a hell of a fun time doing playback y just like we did during the regular season you know I was broadcasting um so I’m sorry I’m looking at that Bullets jersey and I know that that’s not Bernard King but that’s what I see uh Rasheed Wallace baby for his one year as a Bullet and we are going to talk about a Bullet tonight that is in the draft so we’re going to circle back around to that here uh in a minute she is like one of the guys that I like got most hooked on the the Wizards on for his one year and I was like “This guy’s gonna be in my life for the next decade it’s gonna be amazing.” And like little 10-year-old me was so excited about his little favorite player and that was obviously not meant to be i was older than that at the time but I thought that Rasheed Wallace was going to be a part of the Wiz i really thought that you know they were gonna have you know Howard all those guys Howard Weber Rasheed Wallace and that they were just going to like dominate the front court 10 years and then I mean they they they basically traded away the two best guys and kept the one and then decided to play him out of position and I I don’t know why they ever thought he could be a small forward but they did should have been a small ball center in today’s world you know like that kind of thing but yeah I don’t think Jawan Howard could play in in today’s game i don’t think kind of tweenery he wasn’t athletic enough to play center at least in today’s game and doesn’t have the perimeter skills maybe if he came up today he’d be more of a shooter he’d be chanting Fry and develop some stretch five ability or something one of those kind of things um that that really set the tone for my Wizards fandom of like “Oh cool prepare to just be disappointed for the next 25 years.” Uh started rooting for vomiting in uh on on during timeouts in the third quarter yep just how many hot dogs can you shovel down got to love that all right on a happier note we’re going to talk about guys that maybe could be steals in the draft year and specifically ones that it’s would be good for the Wizards they need talent at any position realistically and they need to find guys and I there’s so much talk about how much you have to nail the sixth pick and get all these things right but just look at someone like OKC they have hits throughout the draft undrafted guys are playing meaningful roles for both them and Indiana that just weren’t big you know draft capital guys so I I think just finding productive people anywhere would be huge um a couple of my guys I’ll just spoiler it are skewing older because I think that matters less now in the way this rookie scale contract is like you want production from them right away and if they’ve got a little bit more upside than that great but it’s basically like I’ve got this Justin Champeni allstars of guys that maybe we’re sleeping on because they’re old or don’t do one particular thing you’d want them to do so my thinking there’s some guys especially like second round that are the older players i don’t have I don’t have them on my list for today sure but there are guys that I would be intrigued intrigued with and you know you pick a guy who’s 23 and if he comes in he’s you know eighth man level ninth man level right away yeah it’s big and you get four or five years out of him at that that’s not bad yeah i would take minimum yeah take three or four of those get them on cheap deals maybe a couple of these guys on two ways like that’s that’s huge yeah yeah uh Kevin why don’t you do the honors and start us off with your first guy here tonight so um the guy that I’m going to talk about I guess he is slightly older in So I’m looking mostly the guys on my list are probably more players I would consider at 18 okay so or if you trade into a late first or early second type of thing so the first guy on my list is Rashier Fleming from Ford forward from St joseph’s love him and I have him he’s uh the rookie scale has him mocked at 25 i’ve got him 15th overall so um 10 spots over and so here’s what I like number one um 64 almost 65% on twos so he’s really did well inside shot 39% on three 74% from the free throw line he rebounded got steals got blocks didn’t really not not many assists so he’s not a playmaker but this he’s multi-killed he’s also huge he’s got a 9 inch difference between his um you know wingspan and height which is which is huge and his his overall length the way I measure it is uh slightly above average for a center so if he doesn’t work out at forward oh also his agility is like off the charts he’s b he’s really bouncy i mean like he’s gonna be able to hold up athletically no matter what his vertical didn’t look great in the combine but with that wingspan and that overall height I mean he’s 6’9 with a over like a 74 75 wingspan so I’m just like I would wouldn’t mind the Wizards picking him at 18 i don’t know if he’s like dumb as a box of rocks or what but I just look at the athleticism the production and he’s twe 21 i mean St joe’s wasn’t a particularly didn’t play in a particularly strong conference i mean was really weak this year but their team had basically like four people that could play at a reasonable level two two really good guards him and another forward yeah so I guess you know I don’t I’m not quite sure what I’m necessarily missing with him or if he But I would love to just take a shot at him at like 18 yeah I have him 14 on the Matt Madno big board so we’re we’re super aligned here a comp somebody told me the other day that they liked for him was like Nas Reed and I if you can get that kind of player at 18 holy i mean you do that in a heartbeat i think the thing that limits him is some people just couldn’t figure out what box to put him in he’s not really a three so is he you know big enough to be a like a you know a four five uh like it just that was I think where they struggled because he he really is like prototypical NBA forward build I think right now and I think that you can stay in front of in front of some threes is great and guard some bigs is great and that versatility to me is a good thing uh I they did not let him put the ball on the floor very much this year and he does sort of go away at times it’s sort of that Otto Porter was like the king of this where I loved auto but you do the holy he’s been in the last you know whole media timeout like I didn’t see him do anything so Fleming has a little of that and and the thing like I wrote a thing for Bolt for Trevor about how much I liked him before the A10 tournament which was here in DC and he was just bad like he was almost non-existently bad which is almost worse than you know some of that stuff so he just he floats sometimes and I think that’s okay when you’re the fifth best player in a lineup you know on a good team it’s hard to do that when you’re the second or third best guy on a college team yeah yeah I can see that um just the in the Yoda similar most similar player here are the top comps of guys who um Gordon Hayward and then your Champany Allstars Justin Champany okay julian Champany and then KCP for some reason but interesting okay uh I’m not a forward version of KCP i could see that i don’t know like I say I just his numbers uh really jumped out at me and then good combine and the the length i’m not concerned at all about his size i mean 69 230 and like I said really long arms good agility he seems like a prototypical this is what they the the the um Wizards are looking for and and you mentioned like him as a you know off the court kind of stuff i only like heard him do media availability for for the tournament and seemed like a well put together kid and said thoughtful stuff and I I think part of the the challenge here too is just the shooting like this year shot 39% from three that’s up from 32 the you know the year before and up from 29 and a half the year before that uh has been a around you know a sub 65% free throw shooter his first two years this year got up to 75 like I think people are just skeptical of like development and to me if a guy suddenly shoots in like his fifth year in college basketball that’s different than in his third year he’s still relatively young so I I just Yeah I’m not worried about this one and I think this is actually probably a reasonably popular choice uh from the Wizards Twitter uh contingent as well i’ve seen a decent amount of Rasher flaming too so if we went this route I think he’d be well received by the fan base so good start all right so so Kevin is getting a lot of guys in that 18ish range i focused more on guys that are are pegged sort of uh second round on this rookie scale consensus big board right now uh but I think like we mentioned this a little bit on our last episode I’m not I wouldn’t go 25 deep in most drafts here in terms of guys I really buy stock in but these are dudes that I think uh you know will find themselves to produce like low first you know first roundish talents and if some of them you might even be able to get on a two-way when you get to that range of the draft I think they’d be they’d be a steal and and I know why this person is going to fall but I still just don’t care because I I just can’t see a world where he’s not a productive you know 10-year NBA contributor maybe not 10 years because he’s a little older eight-year NBA contributor that’s Villanova forward center sharpshooter Eric Dixon uh he’s 68 and a half in shoes and was basically their five for the last five years he’ll be 24 and a half on draft night uh which doesn’t you know help him super well uh he’s 49th on that big board we mentioned 23.3 points per game in college basketball uh this year which is pretty crazy only five rebounds a game which is down from the previous three years i think that um just was sort of a sign of where they were as a team and then people sort of knowing he was the only person they had to keep off the glass about two assists a game about a steal not much on blocks doesn’t turn it over a ton for a guy that has the ball as much as he did with literally no help or spacing but shot 41% from three just about he’s an 81% free throw shooter uh he’s an elite catch and shoot guy right now and he’s physical he’s rugged he finishes with either hand around the rim like to me he’s just like the ultimate small ball you know stretch five you see in the playoffs like teams are killing each other when they’re able to go five out and he’s a dude that can shoot as well as most wings but could also guard most fives the size I don’t think really matters a whole lot so to me he’s just like an instant plugandplay rotation guy yeah so I would say I’m I have him lower i mean I have him right around where he’s supposed to be mocked like 48 I think what do I have him like 40 and I just had him here uh 48th is where I’ve got him so not bad in the rookie scale i like it that said this is the kind of player I would love to take a shot on and I would rather you know if they can buy into you know the 45th pick or the Exactly 52nd pick and he’s still sitting there I’d love to do that so a couple things that I’d love one like you said 40 over 40% on threes on a high volume you know took more than eight per 40 um not for a guy who played center you know he didn’t rebound no assists no steals or blocks or anything like that you know not a lot of that but he definitely can score and he definitely can shoot over 80% now two-point percentage was on was below 50% so that’s a a caution and then in terms of the athleticism not Yeah not a great athlete he’s just a big burly dude that’s going to shoot you’re not getting crazy putback dunks or anything like that it’s just I mean if assuming he he is plays defense and he plays physical you describe PJ Tucker who that’s that’s kind of the mold guy you’re looking for I think here i think PJ Tucker actually entered the league before the NBA began right still around yeah yeah he’s made a nice career out of being that kind of guy uh so anyway it’s just I every time I watch I’m just like Kevin how how does this not just work like I think we’re just overthinking it at a certain point all right who you got number two um this is not necessarily in in like the order that I have it actually is kind of in the order that I have them on the in in on the Yoda big board but next guy I’ve got is Drake Pal from North Carolina so with Drake Pal let me start with the numbers so number one 57% on twos 38% on threes only 65% from the free throw line but I do like the shooting he’s still young he’s only 19 not a lot of nonshooting production um he did get over you know he’s at 2.2 steel stocks steals and blocks per 40 which is okay you know it doesn’t turn it over it’s basically very low usage kind of an autoporterish looking profile except auto produced rebounds and um steals and blocks at college level um now with Powell though the athleticism is the is the thing number one he’s got good size for a and just elite athleticism you know just at least at the combine no he he he jumps out of the gym like absolutely he’s and and his agility scores were you know almost well almost two standard deviations above average for a wing his his vertical was two standard deviations above average yeah we’re talking an 80 what I do the way I use um the vertical is I combine the two standing and uh and and his um standing and the the full you know maximum vertical and his combined was 80.5 in average for a wing was like uh 65 inches so I mean it’s just freakish what he can do athletically so I think with that length and the athleticism and with the shooting he kind he fits a profile that the Wizards are looking for and you know whether that I think he’s probably a 34 and uh highly switchable if he if he’s willing to try so you know you tell me what’s wrong with him how tall does he measure Kevin do you have that in front of you i think I got that um yeah hang on a little shorter than that maybe inches rashier Fleming 80 and a quarter inches so that’s uh for for Drake Powell oh no i’m sorry i just looked at Rashier Fleming yeah I think Powell’s like 6’4 and a half let’s see where do I have the search yeah 77 and a quarter so that’s uh 77 is that’s Yeah like you six 65 and some change maybe yeah times 12 yeah 65 and a quarter so but um and then but with the um the way I do the height again he’s got long arms he’s got a he does he plays bigger than he is he’s a crazy athlete I think he’ll definitely shoot yeah seven foot wingspan so he ends up grading out by the way I do size he’s he’s almost a standard dev a little more than a standard deviation above average for a wing so I I think the player mold I see for him is like the KCP Gary Harris kind of like three and D wing like long arms good he can he has like the chops to do it i think a freshman always just going to get poked at a little bit here and there and also they’re just team building was just weird this year like they had basically a six-foot like crazy high usage point guard in RJ Davis uh another point guard in Elliot Kado that could not shoot at all another point guard in Seth Trimble that was like okay at both things but not great at either and then they had him and another guy Ian Jackson who was testing draft waters as a freshman and they just didn’t seem like they know knew what to do with them and they were beholden to the older guys and then when they played the younger guys that got more athletic and dynamic and could hang with people and then went away from him again they had no bigs it just didn’t do him any favors and I I think what you just hit on is like a guy that just bad situation and if you just get him on an NBA court with space and let him just shoot and run and like develop from there like good luck you know i think that’s a great call yeah I’ I’d love to see it um like I say somebody with that athleticism and you’d think he’d be pretty switchable so especially with that athleticism and the the overall length and stuff that I’ I’d be intrigued to see him in the Wizards system the way they the way they ran things last year i I think that’s like just like a smart buy low kind of guy if you’re them too and I’m not sure where he is on this they’ve got him mocked at 29 29 yeah if you got him you know anywhere 18 and beyond I mean I think that’s Yeah I’ve got him in n I’ve got him 19th overall so you know and honestly I’d rather pick him above like the guy I’ve got at at 18 so okay there you go that works for me yeah I I like that kind of thinking for them too because that’s a higher upside guy that just you know I’d rather see that at 18 than some of the 25 year olds I’m going to mention but that’s why they’re you know further in the draft here uh all right the only young player on my list the only guy that is not um eligible for AAP membership so far uh is Rockco Zakarsski also a Brisbane Bullet uh so just trying to connect the dots here a little bit he’s just really good at honestly not much except just being real out like real big like it’s just he’s just like a large human and I think if you get a guy like that at 40 they just they like they need you know like the where’s the beef ads like they just need like a big dude somewhere on this roster that’s just like huge he moves reasonably well for a guy his size this is going to sound crazy and someone’s gonna just like rip me to shreds for this but I watched a lot of Duke this year and if you put Zakarsski in like the ACC I’m not sure he couldn’t have done exactly what Kaman Malawatch just did for Duke like the upside is not as high to me long term he wasn’t productive you know in in the NBL but he played 12 minutes a game it’s a big man’s league or it’s an adult grown man’s league and I just don’t think they play them the same way we play young guys over here but you know he averaged four and a half points three and a half rebounds in those 12 minutes but per 36 that’s 14 and 10 and a half and two blocks a game like I I think if you you think he can scale up a decent amount here you know as he continues to lo like learn and grow he’s 74 and a half and shoes i mean I would just be taking a shot on this guy can be huge stand in front of the rim like I’m going to take a drop coverage big it’s going to be a gamble guy at 40 where if he doesn’t work out I don’t care but taking him at six is like a crazy nonvalue proposition for me essentially so just catch lobs and be big and and I’m happy with you at that point yeah so um I wouldn’t mind him going you know being their second round pick i’ve got him 33rd overall so just outside the first round basically um if you want to go red flags like you say it’s a different thing he’s playing in a in a professional league that’s you know legitimate prof grownup players in it so whatever that’s worth so only 52% on twos only 60% or 20% excuse me on threes and he really didn’t take many we’re talking less than an attempt per game so that’s just not a shot that’s really Yeah I don’t think he’s ever going to stretch the floor that said I like his big man stuff that he does 4.9 offensive rebounds is outstanding and a lot of them are his own misses to be fair of like missed dunks that he’s putting back for layups over smaller people but I’m okay with it well here’s the thing i mean the the production is what but he also blocked shots 2.3 per 40 which is not bad and um he did foul a bit for you know over four per 40 but you know we’re 15 and and 11 and a half 15 points 11 and a half rebounds a couple blocks per 40 you know even if he doesn’t scale up even if he’s a 12minute a game backup center you know if you’re picking 40th that’s okay you know and if you’re bringing him in and he can compete with Tristan Vauvich for backup center minutes and um you know provide a really different kind of change of pace sort of thing where Vukovich comes in and is more jacking shots and and uh you know doing his kind of mobile big man stuff and then you’ve got the the the hammer of of uh Rocco that’s that Zakarsski which sounds like a hammer that’s right i don’t know why it just does uh you know I could see using a roster spot on him and using the 40th pick to me that Yeah exactly that I’ve got him as a guy that if he was at there at 40 and we just snatched him I wouldn’t think twice about it and I just would like to see someone kind of big and physical for Sar to have to go up against in practice even for the next x amount of years just you know you have to outwork somebody and uh if if he turns into more than that like cool i’m you know I’m happy to take a flyer with them uh all right Kevin who’s your third guy so I’m debating right now whether I want to take the the third guy that I had down or whether we got time we’ll do them both so why don’t we each do four at least whe whether I wanted to jump to my first alternate so actually I’m gonna jump to the first alternate then we’re gonna do both and so I’m gonna take my namesake Jonai Broom ah there you go yeah so Jeani he’s 22 uh you know I’m intrigued so they’ve got him mocked at 36 he shows up 11th on in Yoda he’s insanely productive yeah yeah he was efficient without making threes or free throws so we’re talking 56% from on twos uh ton of offensive rebounds ton of defensive rebounds assists steals blocks doesn’t foul scores you know and he’s got decent size let me see i’m screen screen across here you know well decent agility doesn’t leap very well but good agility so part of that too he was injured during the combine and so people were making some jokes about how bad the like the the vertical was but I mean he’s not a great leaper anyway i just don’t think he’s as bad as he looked in that time his combined vertical was 52 and a half inches not what that said he’s still I mean that’s a standard deviation below average for a center centers are about 58 inches but still even injury or not his his agility was outstanding his you know combined movement scores so and like you said highly productive on a great college team and uh you know I wouldn’t pick him I I mean I would consider picking him at 18 but especially if you could trade in somewhere in that early second late first and get a pick to to snap up a guy like that i mean I think having an adult in the room which is funny drafting a college senior drafting bringing in a rookie he’s the third oldest guy on the team all of a sudden yeah right uh so anyway yeah this is a dude that’s like the definition of like a self-made man too he started out like really underrated at Morehead State spent two years there transferred to Auburn for three yeah and by the end of this fifth year I mean it was him and Cooper Flag like neck andneck for NCAA player of the year and and he did that like solely yeah he almost didn’t get it just because he got hurt a couple times and I don’t know if you I know you didn’t watch much tournament Kevin but like the guy literally had a shoulder problem for the second half of the year and was like dragging a limp arm with him through like the Sweet 16 and still you know was grabbing like one-handed rebounds and then coming down and hitting like step back threes on people and you’re just like are you allowed to do that i watch the tournament and so I mean the tournament I watched the final yeah yep so I mean he he made them a good competitive team and I think just being really good at basketball is an underrated skill and and it’s hard to watch him play and just say he’s anything other than really good at basketball so the guy just visually as I watched him play uh that one game that he reminded me of a little bit was Al Horford yeah yeah that’s the kind of vibe yep and so I’m just you know I’d be I’d be intrigued i’d be intrigued and uh Gregory Castillo to his in the comments here athleticism of my grandma according to the combine grandma was quick yeah yeah right exactly yeah she’s grandma can move her puppies side to side here a little bit but uh yeah not Do you remember the Robin Lopez line about not being able to jump over the Wyoming phone book because it was the smallest of the phone books i just thought that was really a good line but that it’s kind of that vibe like he’s not going to outathlete you but he’s tough as and I think that’s something this team could use an infusion of as well like we’re a little soft right now so yeah I mean I like you you like that mfer factor you know at times so uh All right the next guy I got here is the probably the second oldest person in the draft one of them uh that’s um sixth year player from Wisconsin John Tan oh yeah yeah uh I I want I definitely want to get your perspective on him in a second but Tanj is interesting because uh he spent four years uh playing at Colorado State varying degrees of productive transferred to Missouri for one year got hurt sat out and then just played his fifth year at Wisconsin so he’s like genuinely a senior citizen by college basketball standards and was like a little bit of a late bloomer whereas like Jani Broom came in and immediately was just good in like a pretty decent mid- major conference uh you know the Mountain West is pretty good but but Tan didn’t do anything his first year he averaged three and a half points per game next year six and a half then nine last year Colorado State got up to 14 and a half on a good team played with um uh Rody what’s his face oh my god why am I forgetting david Rody thank you uh then only played a few games at Missouri where he’s just hurt kind of the whole time and then this year at Wisconsin just went like supernova on people like started all 37 games to average 31 uh minutes per game 19.6 points 5.3 rebounds about two assists and was 39% from three uh 91% free throw shooter which I I absolutely love the dude is just a bucket like and and I watch him play and he’s not a crazy athlete and everybody gives him a hard time for that but he gets to his spots i think he’ll be an elite catch and shoot guy from day one here and you don’t go to Wisconsin if you can’t at least just play mar like marginal defense like they just don’t play you and uh you know he held up okay on that end um but yeah I think if you can get an elite catch and shoot guy at 40 uh that just fits in he’s got decent size he’s you know 66 probably in shoes the numbers are like really similar to like a Walter Clayton or somebody like that that’s a little younger but is going to go 25 spots higher so to me it’s just like a value proposition that that I’d be that it’s one of those guys Kevin where you watch him play and you’re like that’s something an NBA guy does like that’s something that college kids can’t do and you can’t guard him and he just moves a little different and I don’t by move different I don’t mean explosively i just the way he gets to his spots and the pace and just the the craft like I’m I’m just all about it yeah so he’s a guy that intrigued me and for exactly the reason that you talk about that is you know ball goes in when he shoots it yeah right and he also does some other stuff as well he does rebound a little bit for his position he may lack athleticism but there’s rebounds there’s assists there’s some defense and so I’d be intrigued with him at 40 um I have him let’s see 31st overall so you know I’ve got him rated ahead of where he’s mocked i think they’ve they’ve got him 47 yeah and for me he’s going to definitely be a firstrounder um wear in there i haven’t really settled on guys like 23 through 30 yet but he’s going to be in that range when I run him through the you know simulator the simulator uh doppelganger whatever you want to call it uh the the guy who made it to the NBA who shows up as one of his you know as his top comp is Seth Curry okay I like that so guy who can really shoot and then you go down the way the list of little ways and you got you know George Yang um so you know we’ve got a couple of those guys who just stick around doing the dirty work and making shots if he did like Tim Hardaway Jr things like I wouldn’t John Lure yeah yeah right another John Lure yeah gotta love the Wisconsin guys he shows up he lasted uh all right why don’t you give us your your fourth guy here and we’ll keep this one rolling so our fourth guy is I have no idea how you say his first name boglejub Marovich oh yeah I know nothing about him either yeah no he is an overseas player played in the league ABA as international player but he’s a guy again makes shots 60 well 60% effective field goal percentage we’re talking 61% on twos 39% almost on threes um and not a huge volume 3.6 per 40 but enough and 77% on free throws and so he rebounds 9.5 per 40 gets some assists 3.5 and um has some steals and blocks too now he turns it over but um you know he’s this is a guy who is productive I’m curious to see how he grades out athletically at the when they do the European combine or the international combine but um this is a guy who you know at least in terms of a forward his production is there and they’ve got him mock H code 34 i’ve got him 23rd right now okay so you know it’s the kind of thing where if you’re again if you’re in in that late first range and you know some of these other guys like Rasher Fleming is already off the board go ahead and take a shot on this guy yeah 18 to 32 in the draft is the same range for me realistically i mean like I’m I’m all for it um I I know very little about him so I won’t say anything but played for Mega Basket for some portion of the year at the very least that that’s a team that has produced multiple NBA players in the past and I want to say Tristan Vukovich played there for some amount of time uh so that would be worth me you know factchecking here in a minute but uh he needs a nickname i can’t do Bogle like I can’t even do it um so we got to figure out what bogo’s nickname here yeah buy one get one free i like that um yeah that would be cool i And to be honest with you Kevin I’m wondering about this too like especially if a guy like that did still end up on the board at like 40 I’m all for it because I just don’t know that the Wizards need three more rookies on this team going into this year so it wouldn’t actually seem like shock me to see them end up you know consolidating from from three picks down to two here at some point and a draft and stash actually isn’t a bad idea and they’ve already shown a willingness to do that with Vukovich too so I’m I’m not mad at it with Vukovich by the way he did not play for Mega Basket he played Real Madrid and KK Partisan got it okay same thing i’m just gonna generalize and be semi-en xenophobic sometimes overseas you know I’m I’m blanking on which guys but Mega Basket has produced NBA players before he did he did play in the same league um his final league league okay so yeah i mean I think you’re you’re a league that has a track record of putting out NBA players and um you know like hey why not um okay so Joic played there uh at Mega Basket nicola Yoic played there uh Zubatz played there uh Bob played there nicola Jurisic go Batazi i mean there’s there’s dudes so some some good bigs oh Topic played there as well so yeah we’re in business um I’m sign up i’m like it the Adriatic League guys you know they um they make they make sense yep yep okay uh um between like three guys who are like basically all the same person at this point so just do them all right uh okay i I’m going to be a little bit of a homer and talk about a guy who played locally here this year and just largely because he’s actually worked out for the Wizards uh this this draft cycle and that’s Micah Peavey uh spent one year at Texas Tech didn’t really do much spent three years at TCU where they basically solely used him uh you know as just like a wing defender and didn’t let him like touch the ball on offense or do much with it which ultimately ended up being a pretty big mistake because he was very productive offensively uh for Georgetown this year the thing I like about it Kevin is like this is a guy that will just definitively know his role in the NBA from day one he only shoots threes or layups like that’s literally it uh doesn’t even really like doesn’t get to the free throw line much so the percentage from the free throw line is not great but he’s taken two attempts per game like it’s not a particularly big sample size but 40% from three on four attempts per game averaged 17 points 5.8 rebounds 3.8 uh 3.6 assists 2.3 steals and that’s per game not per 40 um 2.6 turnovers but Georgetown wasn’t good and he was the reason they were as competitive as they were against some of the better teams uh in the Big East so he’ll be just shy of 24 on draft night but you’re you know you’re 66 you come in you hit threes and you play a lead perimeter defense if this is a dude that hangs around for a contract or two in the league like it just wouldn’t shock me at all and he’s 56 on uh this rookie scale big board so if you could get a dude like that like on a two-way or something I would absolutely be all for that yeah so I have not run his numbers yet but um run them through Yoda just eyeballing the numbers you know the the age will be what it is like you say 40% on threes now the one caution there is that was really different than what he had been previously so that’s a little bit of a concern there but he his rebounding is this consistent he is a little bit of a playmaker i could see him second side playmaker type deal um good steel numbers um blocks not doesn’t block shots but good steel numbers um you know this is an intriguing player and if you’re picking him you know in the second round yeah absolutely or like you say a two-way because if he’s 56 he could just as easily be an un undrafted free agent yeah i mean if you’re anything after 45 they might just try to put you on a two-way at this point anyway and even if he doesn’t get drafted especially if he doesn’t get drafted period I’d be all for it and it was funny like at Georgetown’s um local media day I asked him like “Hey you spent three years with a good coach and Jamie Dixon at at uh TCU why transfer now?” He goes “Because I just wanted to show I could do like other stuff on a basketball court.” And they just like didn’t let me shoot or dribble or playmake or anything and I I think he had reasonable success doing it so I’m willing to overlook like you know it wasn’t just old guy in league is suddenly productive i think it was um like we very high in usage uh you know he went up to 20 almost 25% usage um the the offensive efficiency was stayed you know decent not great but decent you know so yeah very interesting uh next guy a little different here uh but but after this but go ahead do this guy and then I’ll do do my yeah just only because they’re like kind of the same vibe here another 24y old so I’ve got a theme I like the older guys um the Silver Foxes you know that’s my type uh another five um year player here Jir Watkins out of Florida State 24 years old 66 real athletic i think he’ll be a day one bouncy wing defender good in transition uh averaged 18 and a half points per game 5.7 rebounds two and a half assists 1.2 steals 2.7 turnovers uh 43% field goal percentage not great 32% from three not great 74 and a half from free throw me uh but just a dude that makes plays and just has like absolute mfer energy he just like went apeshit on people in the combine scrimmages like he was actively trying to steal people’s lunch money from them and and I just I want that kind of dude of just like I am just going to try to like take everything that you have in this world and I did hear anecdotally from people that he’s a guy that other agents do not want their player to have to match up with for for that reason and and I want some of that energy uh he’s 43 on that that consensus mock florida State was just terrible like they were just really bad and anything they did was largely driven by by stuff he was able to do and contribute for them i honestly would have liked to see him like whether you’re 24 you’re 25 I don’t know that it makes a difference for you he could have made a boatload of NIL this year and gone to UNCC or Duke or one of these teams and maybe like had a shot of moving up boards next year but you know I guess he just wanted to get his pro career started but good athlete and a good finisher you know in transition like I could just see him showing up on the Nuggets next year and catching out passes from Joic and we were all like “How did we not know this guy would be good?” Yeah so I have do have him a little bit lower i’ve got him in the 50s um for some of the reasons you cited you know low two-point percentage low three-point percentage i do like the rebounding and there is some playmaking there and he does generate steals so not a ton but some and so uh this is a guy yeah I could definitely see a team like the Nuggets or you know a team that could just use some an infusion of energy and competitiveness and toughness into their lineup yeah just let me catch up on the comments here a little bit uh BG the pro said Treyor we talked about Nolan Trayor on the last podcast if you want to actually maybe we didn’t maybe we could do a couple minutes on Treyor before we end uh he’s probably gonna go higher than most of the guys we’re talking about so I don’t think he’d be a sleeper if he’s a fringe lottery guy you know in a lot of places um but an interesting dude i again I’ve not watched many of the European prospects this year but I have heard that uh you know again anecdotally from from people who do some draft stuff that NBA teams like him more than mockdraft people so him showing up in the 20s in mock drafts means he may actually go 15 16 17 on draft night and Kevin I would imagine he’s probably decently wellreceived by Yoda no in fact I was just going to say he’s he’s in the 40s and Yoda sixth overall so specifically here’s what Yoda doesn’t like two-point percentage is 47% three-point percentage is only 31.4 and then he only shot 71% on free throws okay good assist numbers doesn’t really rebound no real steals for a guard i mean doesn’t block shots lots of turnovers um he still had a 2 to1 assist turnover ratio so that’s good but um the o offensive efficiency was poor and that’s really what you’re you’re getting him for and then I don’t have athleticism numbers we’ll see what comes up in in in the combine when he does the combine but he he had done some like hoop summit stuff in the past so there was some biometric data out there for him and I I imagine he’ll end up 6’3 and some change you know without shoes maybe 6’4 with some shoes but kind of slight still i I the little I’ve watched I haven’t been been moved but he also got much better as the year went on and has been productive down the stretch for them as their games get more competitive so I like seeing stuff like that it takes a while for guys to acclimate to to grown man leagues sometimes so not a guy I would feel confident like you know like going to bat for but um you know they do love guys that speak French so I mean I feel like let’s see last year from I think I just blanked on the kid’s name he was the number one pick in the draft um Zachary Reese yeah Reese same league and Yoda didn’t like him either so maybe maybe Yodas got some prejudice against that league yeah I mean there’s some decent dudes and and again another veteran big league that plays fairly physically and you got to be ready to go so um I I give those guys a little bit of pass you could almost probably wipe out like the first month of what they do and then just let them see how they settle in a little bit yeah and then just in terms of like slight and all that kind of stuff I just I actually stopped using strength as a Okay basically I I had stopped doing it before the NBA phased out the uh bench press you know Kevin Durant famously couldn’t do a single rep and what difference did it make he was you know 19 years old and he was real skinny but he knew he could play it’s like why on earth would I ding him because he can’t bench press and when he’s a 19-year-old kid with with you know freakishly long arms i I’ve yet to see an NBA player that doesn’t get bigger and strong you know more like solid and stronger and things like that like it there’s levels to it but that won’t be the one discriminating factor that prevents him from working out that’s my usual go-to uh okay so that’s one um ain’t no half stefan said that PV Steelrate must be outstanding yeah I would think so uh Gregory Castillo said Drake Pal Jir Watkins Seion James for Duke seion James is not one I have on this list only because I know he will go higher than people are expecting him to because half the GMs in the league are Duke graduates and he’s smart and like very thoughtful and will be like a leader day one uh so someone will take him and Tyrese Proctor and people will act shocked and then they’ll hang around for 10 years and Seion James will be the general manager of the Pelicans you know 15 years from now and so is a guy that uh I like better than the Mox mox have him at 44 i’ve got him 32 yep makes shots good player you know good rebounds good assists some steals so he’s a guy you know once again if the Wizards are sitting real older but once again if the Wizards are sitting there with pick somehow end up with a pick in the you know that second round absolutely yeah the 3 and wing guard whatever you want to call him day one mature was willing to sacrifice actual stats to go to Duke and try to win a ring doesn’t like nearly as much but Okay yeah I don’t like him that much either so suck it Tyrese another Aussie yeah we only have one Aussie in this draft pod tonight uh with Rocco so we’ll keep it rolling um okay and then let’s see darren March says “I hope the Wizards don’t draft another guard i like our current back court of Pool Bub and AJ the Wizards need all the front court help they can get.” I would just say watch the NBA finals and see when these games are ending how many guards and wings teams have on the floor versus how many bigs so if your intent is to get the most out Alex Sar he has to almost be a five out center for you which means having four other dudes that could shoot around him is to your benefit so um you need more guards and wings than you need bigs in on the NBA roster and I I’m not saying that the Wizards don’t need another big but I I also don’t think we don’t know if AJ can play we don’t know how good Bub ultimately will be and I don’t think Pool’s here long term so I wouldn’t let them block me to I think the Wizards need talent they need players at every position in every role because for one thing I mean we can like Bub all we want like you said we don’t know if he’s gonna work out we don’t know if Sar is gonna work out i think he probably will if he puts in the work etc we don’t know if uh you know if if Kulabali is going to work out i think he will if he puts in the work but they they need they need guys and you need multiple of these guys as well so yeah like I say you need and they need to be switchable you need all the flexibility the lineup flexibility and stuff so just whoever your best the best player is just pick that guy and these guys are young enough they’re good enough the coaching is good enough they can figure it out does the like 80% outcome of this player be like can they succeed on an NBA Finals court like can what they do translate can they bring you at least one thing to play some role for you especially in the range of the draft we’re talking about here and you look at a guy like I I think you liked him in Yoda too Kevin but like a guy I stand for last year was AJ Mitchell and they throw him in an NBA Finals game the dude gets three shots up in the first 90 seconds he’s on the court like uh you know he wasn’t he’s not been crazy productive this year but he was in the rotation for like the deepest team and the best team in the league and they looked at him like “All right this is a playmaking guard you know who people are underrating because he didn’t shoot a lot of threes and and they they see stuff that translates and it’s working out pretty well for them.” Yeah i mean I didn’t love him but I do see in the numbers some of the same sort of stuff that we’re talking about guy makes shots you know 80 last year he shot in college 86% from the free throw line almost 40% from three um some rebounds some assists you know that it’s a it’s a player and he’s a little older his competition wasn’t as good etc but um you know he he was a guy that was an intriguing player and I’m it’s not shocking that it seemed like OKC would end up with him go figure right almost like those guys know what they’re doing yeah I I think uh there’s usually one guy every year from one of these Western Coast conferences that I love because I’ll like fall asleep to like West Coast games uh I didn’t really have one this year uh one dude I’ll I’ll just throw out there maybe as an honorable mention is Utah sharpshooter Gabe Matson uh Utah is like kind of the West Coast you know at least in terms of the the people they’re playing against but the dude is just again he’s another old man but he’s 6’5 and I think he’ll just absolutely like shoot it from day one the numbers weren’t really good this year Kevin from three only 32% but on like basically nine and a half attempts per game and everyone knew that every time he touched it from from anywhere on the court he was just going to shoot a three 85% free throw shooter i I just buy him doing that at an elite level and just sort of you can just watch certain dudes regardless of like what percentage goes in sometimes and be like this is a guy that will make shots um so if he hung around as a two-way guy for somebody and made some threes it wouldn’t shock me but yeah I haven’t through yet but uh yeah the 32% from three not good but that’s the only thing you do yeah you got to make a few more but it was also a complete aberration we’re talking the he still shot 36% for his college career and we’re talking 39% as a what I guess that was a sophomore and then 37% as a junior 39% almost in as a senior and then as a fifth year senior he he t his his shot cratered you know they they were just like straight up really really bad this year and when he had another like Brandon Carlson the year before is like a huge center around him suddenly he’s a good shooter when he’s open and you know now when you’re a limited white guy and you know that they know what you’re going to do like it just kind of threw that off but I would I would buy the shooting there the hair is pretty incredible there’s a lot of hair going on there yeah it’s at least in the photo uh Kevin any other honorable mention guys here that you want to shout out yeah so there’s one more guy that I just wanted to talk about and again another one i don’t know how to say his name adu Tierro aduiero yeah for Arkansas yeah arkansas exactly and he’s a guy he’s listed as a Ford probably has to play forward or maybe even a small ball five but and he’s not like at the top he’s you know mid-first yeah he’s he’s definitely not able to play small ball five i’m just going to tell you he’s like 66 like yeah then maybe he’s got to learn how to shoot because he doesn’t shoot very well he He does not shoot very well the shot is completely and utterly broken but he is a whirling dervish Tasmanian devil on a basketball court and just just good things happen to him uh and if he ever shoots a little bit I think he becomes a steal yeah that’s what I like about he he rebounds there’s some playmaking 2.4 steals per 40 that’s among the the highest marks in the uh in the draft i mean VJM Edgecombs at 2.5 so this is a guy who’s you know alert he blocks uh he’s over a block per 40 you know he’s he’s got the markers for playing hard and um he’s got decent athleticism too so he it looked like I did look up his photo he’s a um looks like a bull in the china shop the proverbial bull in the china shop he’s a big dude but so I I like him a lot too if I thought he could shoot even a little bit i think I actually NBA teams probably feel the same way but he also just got better over the three years of just like okay here’s what I do well and I’m just going to do a lot of it like he took didn’t take a lot of threes um which is I I you know at some point you’re going to have to take a few in the NBA but uh got to the line a decent amount this year and just kind of put his head down you know 69% of them isn’t great but like you said he’s just going to stuff a stat sheet and if you believe that your you know your coaching staff can teach shooting which apparently the Wizards do even though they have no track record of success to speak of sorry my internet lagged on me there for a second everybody uh so you uh you froze up there for a minute yeah sorry about that um Kevin anyone you want to leave us with that we haven’t talked about that you uh nothing is jumping out to me you froze up again there so um that would be that was the like the I guess main guy if you will um my last guy to really talk about so if you got anybody Yeah I’ll just rapid fire a couple names at you and I’ll tell you why they won’t probably get drafted but I would just be interested and if they hung around and a few best outcomes things came together um wouldn’t wouldn’t shock me also Obar asked in the chat if we were going to talk about Thomas Sorber i and he’s obsessed with him i like him as well we did talk about him on the previous podcast yeah uh so so go check the the last episode of of this show here on the channel and there’s a time stamp on there to tell you when we talked about Sorber so you can jump right to that but we both liked him um okay uh Elijah Martin from Florida he spent um four years at FAU and they went from really bad to really good and he made a final four run with them he goes to Florida they end up winning a national championship obviously he had help but just like a day one ready role player uh he he managed like 6’2 and a quarter in shoes as basically a 3ND wing which isn’t ideal but if he were your like Alex Caruso kind of like next best hope sort of dude he’s built like a brick house he just absolutely straps people up 14 and a half points per game four and a half rebounds 2.2 assists 1.5 steals 1.4 4 turnovers 35% from three on about six attempts per game 76% free throw shooter uh it’s use whatever underrated guy you want to do from from the Thunder whether it’s Caruso or Lou Dort or whatever but uh just guys that win and are like genuinely very tough I just wouldn’t rule out and he’s been okay being a low usage offensive guy and been reasonably efficient i think if he weren’t you know almost 24 years old he were doing this at 22 and come out two years ago I think it’d be a little different story so I’ve got him 30th which is much better than where he’s mocked and the guy he reminds me of a little bit is um Kyle Lowry so yeah I like that yeah i I just think like something like that it just being tough as should matter too like it just those are the kind of guys that I’m I’m willing to take an extra shot on another defensive archetype guy here probably the best perimeter defender in this draft class who definitively won’t get drafted and that’s Jamai Mhack from Tennessee uh he’s about 6’4 he played four years at Tennessee averaged six points per game four rebounds 1.5 assists 1.7 steals uh was a 35% three-point shooter but on one and a half attempts per game like they literally didn’t let him do anything on offense uh but he just absolutely turns the water off for whoever he guards big solid dude good athlete and I don’t think like he’s totally broken offensively you know low70s free throw shooter like it’s not what you’re you’re banking on him for but uh he will he will genuinely be everybody’s best defensive perimeter player like day one on a roster and just whether there’s enough there to hang yeah he’s 11.6% 6% usage rate this season but his defensive blocks minus was uh um box plus minus excuse me was plus seven so which is outstanding that’s like an absolute elite defender so very interesting player yeah so we’ll see uh last guy had Xavier uh forward Zack Freemantle he spent six years in college basketball two of them he was out injured 6’8 i think stretch fours are just kind of in another guy that I think is just a much better shooter than the the percentage this year never seemed like fully right but 17 points per game seven rebounds two assist one steel a little less than a block only 30% uh from three on three attempts but a 75% free throw shooter he’s got good touch i got to see him play in person a couple times this year and again you can’t put too much into this cuz like at some point when you’re on the court you actually have to make the shots but this is a dude that like warming up for a game he just like absolutely like torches the net and you’re like “Holy shit.” Like why doesn’t he make more of these in a game and and he really just didn’t take a lot of them so um I think that’s maybe where it’s coming from but if you just watch like Xavier highlights for like five minutes later Kevin even if he’s not involved air quotes in the play it’s I’m sealing off my guy for a lane to the basket i’m setting the screen and holding my you holding the defender just long enough i’m like go screening something really well to open up a lane for somebody like it’s like the typical like I know it sounds like a like a coach speak kind of thing but like they talked about like every big play they had all season like he had something to do with whether he touched the ball or not and uh you know 68 good mover if he can actually make enough of those shots and he stuck around it wouldn’t shock me the guy he kind of reminds me of is Taylor Funk for the go- go uh just like a big dude who just drills threes and probably will never do enough to like make an NBA roster but if he got a couple 10 days here or there and you heard the name you know this is a guy that definitely won’t get drafted so I’m going like super deep cut for you here i’m not advocating for him at 40 um but you know if he was getting to 10day you know three or four years from now like I wouldn’t be shocked by that yeah I haven’t run him through Yoda so I can’t really Yeah it’s not gonna like him so I wouldn’t worry about it um last one for you gregor Castillo asked in the chat here if you have run Zack uh sorry Zack Zeke Mayo through yet i’ve not run him through so um yeah Mayo is interesting he’s a guy that spent multiple years uh you know at the the mid- major level in a good conference and then scaled up this year to to Kansas they were just kind of a mess and I think the numbers like are maybe actually even a little better than I thought he played because it was just really up and down but this is one of those ones where I don’t know if it’s just because the team situation was so weird and they had no spacing and they kind of relied on him to be the floor spacer and he shot well from three so I could see the shooting i mean 42% on threes and 83% from the free throw line a low two-point percentage which is not good basically no offensive rebounds some defensive rebounding um some assists but no defensive impact really so um and slight leap above one assist turnover you know a lot of turnovers there yeah I don’t buy the playmaking that’s my lone challenge for him so essentially he’s a a six foot one shooter for you so can he be Brin Forbes you know like that’s the kind of guy But hey if he hung around on the team I wouldn’t I’m not like out totally out on that but uh all right Kevin i think this was good hopefully this was more structured for our one listener the last time i said three guys each so naturally we spent an hour and talked to about 15 people anyway so take that um but this is fun thank you for doing this i I enjoy it uh I don’t know any thoughts on what we do maybe we knock out one more you want to do a mock draft next time yeah that would be fun actually is to you know see if uh Oz is available and you know another of our traditions is to do a mock draft and like maybe next week just do one of those and see where things go all right I’ll send you guys both a text everybody thank you for listening this rate review subscribe all that good stuff if you’re still watching on YouTube hit that like button for us uh Kevin shout out all the work you’re great you’re doing here it’s great across the board will we get another podcast on your end here pretty soon that’s the question all the people are asking maybe um I I’m I’m doing other podcasts i’m doing playback so if you want to catch me uh and Good call definitely worth checking out for people prepping me with questions i’ll be uh doing playback during game three tomorrow and game one was hella fun because of that great comeback uh game two the game itself was a little less fun although it was it was fascinating one of the things that was fun just quick shout out for myself and for uh the playback was during the first half I kept talking about how the Pacers offense was kind of bogged down they were doing a lot of one-on- ones they weren’t you know a lot of one-on-one play not much of the ball act you know ball movement and player movement that uh really has been their trademark throughout the season and then Jim Boland uh who I did not even know was on the coaching staff neither did he yeah did his interview and he said basically exactly what I’ve been saying through the whole first half and so that was kind of fun to uh have somebody paid to make an assessment uh say the same thing I’ve been saying so I I don’t know how you feel about this person but he is a former wizard here so I’ll give him a little shout out here but uh Tim Langler was just on the Ryan Rousillo podcast the other day yesterday talking about game two and what worked and what didn’t and just it’s just so next level the actual things he’s talking about compared to like the entire rest of the ESPN crew it seems like and he was pulling on a couple things and I was like “Yes do that.” like they have to shoot this many threes because and like just when people talk about like actual smart productive things and it’s the few times where I’ve said something that someone smart agrees with I’m like I can just retire from talking about basketball he’s validated me um but I think Leggler is so good and uh yeah Legler I think is like I I enjoy Leg i wish that they could they would have him do some of the in-game stuff likely be better at it than Richard Jefferson dors Burke I think is really good who they’re trying to get rid of obviously because most people like her so why not force her out yeah i mean to be honest I like Jeff Van Gundy too i think I do it’s fun spent so much time griping about the the rest but old man Shakespeare cloud but I like that as an old man at heart so yeah yeah so but um legs I think is good i think that to be honest this is one of the things where NBA broadcasts suffer especially in compared to say NFL where in NFL it’s routine for the analysts to break down plays to talk about pattern design and the options that the quarterback is going through and what the running back is seeing and you know talking about offensive and defensive systems and formations and all these kinds of things that they talk about and in the end NBA a lot of the analysis is just basically the want it more or try harder hand down man down play better you know adjustment and it’s like you know this is one of the things I try to do I try to joke around a bit on the playback Like one of the observations I had I don’t know what Leler said in this but I think the Pacers it I’m okay with them going one-on-one but you’ve got to get the paint touch and collapse the defense a little bit and so they’re ending up shooting a lot of pull-ups in part because OKC collapses on on penetration you get that paint touch and then you’ve got to kick it out and you’ve got to keep the ball moving but the OKC closes out hard and you’ve got to you’ve got to they’ve got guys who just have to pull the trigger from from three when you get that kick out and you can’t be slow about it you’ve got to get that shot off he talked about that actually directly and said that the thing that OKC did better in game two was picking up Hallebertton earlier and not letting him get to half court before you show him some resistance and also how just OKC kind of over rotates a lot and Indiana made him pay a lot for that in game one and then not so much in in game two for exactly the reason you’re talking about guys are a little more tentative about letting it fly and that’s not the way to go out and beat OKC you got to make them pay for being aggressive yeah this is the thing with one of the I think real geniuses of what Rick Carile has done think about what he did when he got to the finals with the championship with the Dallas Mavericks and that was a kind of walk it up team and you know a lot of uh high post stuff for Durk which made sense and Carlile was calling a play basically every possession and with this team it is the ultimate trust your players thing and and the players need to take advantage of that trust and you’ve got to let it rip and and make the plays that are there and don’t be afraid that that’s the thing and they’re if they you fail you fail you know just live with that you got to live with that and it’s easy for me to say as somebody who’s not on the floor but that is ultimately what the Pacers offense is designed that what their system is designed to do is to empower the players to make plays that’s kind of the genius that they that they took on and then one other quick observation is you know the Pacers they they run a lot of double drag or have run a lot of double drag and I didn’t see much of that two they were running um a lot of just simply spread and then they were also just doing kind of basic pick and roll kind of stuff and um those the double screens are Hallebertton makes them makes that really difficult on the opposing defense and so I wouldn’t be surprised if in game three we see more of those double drag now I realize that’s more of a a transition semi-transition concept but still I wouldn’t be surprised to see the sort of stack screens in part because the Pacers have the personnel for it with Hallebertton as the that genius level decision maker and great shooter so just to geek out for a second the double drag basically you’re forcing the defenders to choose their poise early and so you either if you’re switching do you switch that first screen that’s usually like uh you know could be a like like but then you’ve got the second screen screen to navigate too a lot of times you put the the bigger guy second so then if you switch that one then you’ve got the big guarding guarding Hallebertton which you don’t particularly love um and so then he can take that guy um and then the other thing that does is you’ve got a shooter that you typically in when you set the double drag you get one guy who rolls and one guy who pops um the order of that doesn’t matter and then you can morph that from one guy rolling you know the you send the first guy to roll then you send the second guy to screen the screener and so you run a pin down or you can then set a stagger screen with those two guys basically screening for a shooter in the corner or you know looping back to shoot it from from the weak side so there’s a lot of options and then you’ve got Hallebertton so if you try to not switch it you send Mike yeah the shooter goes under I mean the defender goes under then Hallebertton nails a free in your face um so anyway the bottom line is I think ultimately the Pacers it would be great to see them do that but I think they need to be quicker um in terms of their decision- making and just getting those shots up rather than trying to uh take guys one-on-one and maneuver for shots is if you’ve got a even the slightest opening just let it rip and see what happens i thought that worked especially well for them in game one when OKC went small when it was only Jet as the only big as soon as you kind of took him out of the play with that it’s like cool who are you really afraid of you know when you’ve got all these other six foot stocky guys basically out on the court so it’ll be interesting to see if what Hallebertton did was able to do in the fourth quarter of that blowout now some of that could have been you know OKC slacking off effect and some of it but he did hit get some shots and and just pull up and shoot them and he’s a great shooter so that should be a positive thing for them is if he can just get shots up still in incredible to me every time that he’s the shooter he is and the release has gotten so much quicker and yet it’s still just kind of wonky but it works you know he’s a Yoda favorite he is current actual player favorite player in the league to watch i just I enjoy watching him play and his uh personality is just sort of perspective like I said you know walking off that game after getting stomped by the Knicks in game five and he had a big grin on his face and he’s like “Hey basketball’s fun.” Yeah even getting your ass kicked it can still be fun yeah when the guy gets punched in the mouth and like tastes his own blood and is like excited about it you’re like “Uh oh this dude’s different.” So I love that uh cool uh check Kevin out on Playbook Playbook Playback tomorrow and also all the great work he does over at Bullets Forever and then uh you know if your special requests on some Yoda guys uh there’s a bullet forever article about this particular podcast so maybe drop a a couple hints there for guys you’d like to see some stuff from and we’ll hit a mock draft you know sometime next week so again Ken Kevin thank you appreciate you all for listening and uh we will check you all next time

Kevin Broom of the #SoWizards podcast and Bullets Forever is back to discuss players he and Matt Modderno are higher on than consensus & who make sense for the Wizards in the 2025 NBA Draft.

0:00 – Intro
5:00 – Rasheer Fleming
9:00 – Eric Dixon
13:00 – Drake Powell
16:00 – Rocco Zikarsky
22:00 – Johni Broome
26:00 – John Tonje
31:00 – Bogoljub Markovic
36:00 – Micah Peavy
39:00 – Jamir Watkins
45:00 – Alijah Martin, Jahmai Mayshack, Adou Thiero, Gabe Madsen, Zach Freemantle
59:00 – NBA Finals

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