Atlanta Hawks: Latest intel, 2025 NBA Draft, Quin Snyder and Knicks, Myles Turner, Trae Young, etc.

Atlanta Hawks: Latest intel, 2025 NBA Draft, Quin Snyder and Knicks, Myles Turner, Trae Young, etc.

on today’s show the NBA draft is less than two weeks away and there is a smattering of intel around the Hawks when it comes to the draft when it comes to trade stuff Quinn Snyder and everything in between we’ll get into all of it unpack it all and more right now you are Locked On Hawks your daily Atlanta Hawks podcast part of the Locked On podcast network your team every day hello friends welcome to episode 1994 of the Loftton on Hawks podcast i am your host Brad Rolling coming to you deep into the night here on a Wednesday evening into Thursday here in mid June and today’s podcast is brought to you by the folks at Game Time download the Game Time app create an account and use code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase terms apply i also want to encourage you at the top of the show as I always do to make locked on Hawks your first listen each and every day check us out and subscribe to the show anywhere you find your podcast that includes Apple Spotify YouTube etc be sure to tell your friends about the show and join us all year round we’re busy right now with draft season for agency and all that but this is a 12 month year 52 week a year podcast so stay tuned subscribe and again tell your friends about the podcast and it’s been heavy draft it will be from now until the draft basically we are less two weeks away from the big day and we’ll get also into some Quinn Snyder random I would say rumblings some news there on Quinn later on the podcast but for the most part uh there’s lots of intel to sift through on this show when it comes to the draft team building etc um I wasn’t necessarily planning on doing a roundup of the intel but it’s honestly enough to fill the entire episode so that’s what we’re going to be doing today i have more guests lined up later this week even into next week and beyond about the draft in particular uh and I will plug now as a kind of bridge to the first topic on the podcast i talked to Raphael Barlo of the Locked on NBA Draft Big Board Podcast on Tuesday raphael does a great job covering the draft all year round is of course a colleague of mine at the LA podcast network and that show is number one you should listen to it but also if you heard that show you would have heard something that kind of potentially trading up for the Hawks for Common Mawatch of Duke the big sevenfooter uh lottery pick all that stuff that was a topic on that podcast i would say 10 or 11 hours after we got done recording on Tuesday evening Raphael then turned some heads more nationally and prominently by writing in his newsletter that the Hawks could be actively exploring ways to move up in the draft for Milo partic particularly now there’s a big picture part of this about the Hawks and the draft that I’ll come back to in a second but specifically on Malawatch Raphael mentioned and referenced kind of getting up ahead of the Raptors in his writing at his uh newsletter at nine if they want to get into the Malawatch sweep stakes because the Raptors might take him at nine for instance he also heard and referenced that there was interest um on the Hawk side that came before the recent front office shakeup so we’ll see on that and by the way I covered that in depth earlier this week on the podcast what I would say is that trading 13 and 22 is not likely to get you any higher than maybe like number eight or so in the draft maybe um I did kind of a history study earlier this uh maybe it was even in May uh about basically the short version being that two picks that are kind of in Atlanta’s current range of 13 to 22 do not historically get you that high in the draft maybe up to like eightish something like that eight or nine generally not into the top five top six but also on the mile watch front we didn’t have time for the whole back and forth on the show with Raphael because I wanted to get to a lot of different players and topics on that podcast I think Rafael Smart does a good job covering the draft but is much more definitive about the desire for a seven-footer with the Hawks than I actually am with Atlanta and particularly so in drafting one that’s fine of course we we can disagree to some degree i’m also not a huge proponent of trading up in the class which I did say to him on the show yesterday and I would not be trying to run out and like really like throw all my chips in to trade up for really anyone in this draft much less Malawak in particular at the same time I do totally understand the appeal of K Malawatch for the Hawks and if you’re going to trade up he does make some sense um through that lens for the Hawks i see how you get there for sure that is particularly the case if you think that Malawatch is like a tier above the guys that are available to you then that starts to make sense like what what you need to have for me to do a trade up broadly is like you have to think that there’s a guy that you think is like significantly better than your options will be at 13 and then also believe in the fit and all of those things um and it’s easy to get there with Malaw Watch I would say um as we discussed in the chat with Raphael Leman I do think Malawatch’s camp and his agents representatives etc should be interested in getting him to Atlanta if possible now it doesn’t mean you move heaven and earth but the Hawks have a core that he would make a lot of sense with especially with Trey as a lead guard to make him look better on offense jaylen Johnson as someone helping with his deficiencies on the glass for instance Jaylen as a graband-go guy all that stuff and also quickly this we’ll save more of this for later if we need to talk about it more there’s a world I think where you actually play a Kong Woo and Malawatch some together particularly because Malawatch has the potential I would say to shoot it not everyone believes that he will but he maybe he might be able to do that plus a Kong Woo’s shooting development the fact that he’s more of a uh you know a little bit more versatile and Malawatch is a rip protector like I’m not saying that’s that’s the primary reason why you would do it but certainly there is room for an investment at center even if you are a believer in a conu like I am the Hawks could still add another center and I’ve been saying this for months and months and months now maybe even years now unless you have a star center you need two that are like good players because most guys don’t play more than 28 minutes a game unless they’re absolute stars of position so all that said I get it i would not be all on that but I totally understand the thought process anyway that’s the Malaw part of this back to the big picture piece about the Hawks in the draft barlo has them exploring trainup scenarios in that piece and on the podcast and then maybe hours later I would say on Wednesday there was some directly opposing intel that came in from Jake Fischer who wrote on Mark Stein Substack in his newsletter that the Hawks have quote generated little chatter about the prospect of packaging those two selections end quote jake also wrote that it is a common suggestion for teams like Oklahoma City Orlando and Brooklyn that have multiple picks to trade up in this class but not so much for Atlanta now that does not mean that one is right and one is wrong keep that in mind this is like we’re officially entering smokec screen silly season now in the NBA draft we’re under under two weeks left this is going to happen not just because the Hawks you will you will see conflicting information making the rounds that’s just what happens this time of year so the Hawks could do this they could trade up they may not trade up but it does speak to the kind of uncertainty out there that I’m talking about a lot in recent days and I won’t do it again in full but the Hawks front office is now a firsttime group together that we don’t know that much about we know that we know the key stakeholders i know honestly the guys that they just brought in from New Orleans and Philadelphia respectively are respected people i know Kyle Corver i know Tony wrestler to some degree like I get it but this is a group does not have a track record together and that adds to uncertainty also some of these guys just got there this week and that means even more uncertainty tony wrestler as a owner who is active adds uncertainty to the process all that said as someone covering the team I do wish I knew more right now and was more confident in more but there’s also an argument that public uncertainty if you are a fan is actually a good thing because the Hawks would then have options and not like tip their hand there’s some advantage to being the kind of no leaks team i mean you go back 10 years and the Hawks were kind of renowned under Danny Ferry 10 plus years ago for never leaking anything and it was like a badge of honor that they wore to themselves you don’t have to do that either that’s kind of where you are so on the front office front there was some more general reporting from Fischer in that same piece at March 9 Substack he wrote about a sentiment I shared earlier this week on the podcast and that uh the way he phrased it is that quote “It seems more likely that Graham and Denwitty who are the two guys that Hawks just hired could result in the most significant front office additions to Atlanta this offseason.” End quote so that’s what I shared this week as well jake backs that up he noted that the Hawks have a pretty big front office already which is true and also even if he did kind of acknowledge that the senior advisor path has kind of been out there in the ether i referenced that with Danny Ferry a couple weeks ago on the on the show that wouldn’t be someone hired above anie that would be somebody else that’s another voice in the room so I’ll reiterate this one more time i said it briefly and probably in more depth earlier this week but I will be surprised now if the Hawks hire anyone above Auntie Salet on the org chart so there’s that that’s where I’ll leave it for now but if you want more on that I discussed that on the emergency podcast earlier this week on the roster side Fischer framed it as a quote greater leaguewide curiosity end quote about Atlanta’s plans which I agree and confirm like there’s a lot of uncertainty and curiosity about what what are the Hawks doing generally speaking no one seems to know like I heard a podcast today from my friend Sam Bassini and also Bryce on the Game Theory podcast those guys did a great job always but that that was a good responsible national offseason breakdown of the Hawks i didn’t agree with all of it but it was a good podcast and they’re kind of like hey it could be straight ahead and I agree like I’ve laid out there’s a very straight ahead offseason for the Hawks if they want to just retain all their guys use the mid-level bring Caris Levert back make two draft picks that’s a pretty hoe they could also get a little bit more aggressive in either in any direction so there’s just a lot of uncertainty there speaking of Caris Levert nothing new here but Fischer wrote about the sources that he has saying that quote “Atlanta has shown a keen interest end quote in bringing Carris Levert back.” Lauren Williams reported this week or maybe last week that resigning Levert is a priority for the Hawks that makes total sense i’ve said that for a while now i think pretty much everyone that I have talked to around the league and around the Hawks is like kind of agreement there not that it’s done or that it’s anything close to that but I think a lot of people including me think that like Leverta’s likely or at least pretty likely to be back in Atlanta that could all change though if he gets an offer that you’re not seeing coming and I include myself in that for more money that can change quickly because guys need to take the most money they can get most of the time but I think right now my projection is that Caris is pretty likely to return and that was another kind of uh arrow in that quiver from Jake Fischer all right more to come in a moment about all kinds of reporting that’s out there from Jake and other people when it comes to trade exceptions that they might be able to use there’s some Miles Turner stuff there’s Quinn Snider stuff there’s Trey Young stuff we’ll get into all that and more in just one moment this is brought to you by Game Time there’s nothing like the NBA playoffs the intensity the buzzer beaters and the fans losing their minds is kind of the atmosphere that you actually have to experience live and if you want in game time makes it fast and easy to get seats even for the biggest possible playoff games prices on the game time now actually drop closer to tip off and with killer last minute deals and no surprise fees Game Time is a total game changer for you i love that I actually see the exact view from my seats before I buy them with no surprises and the NFL schedule is also out right now and you better 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that I talked about quite a few times and the possibility of using it this summer now so did Sami by the way on that podcast that I refed earlier on Game Theory that’s not a secret it’s out there people know that they have it they might use it i have often also said that it’s not likely to be used exceptions like that expire all the time without being used it’s nothing crazy because they don’t use it but it’s another arrow and and the kind of just ability to be have optionality basically like just versatility roster building mechanisms they have different ways to add to the roster now the big reason I’m bringing that up now is that Fischer brought up Miles Turner so Miles Turner uh who just played in a finals game as I’m recording this podcast by the way the Pacers up two to one that surprises me but the Pacers are playing great they defended crazy well in game three this is not a Pacers or or a Thunder podcast but I was wrong about the series in general i still think Oklahoma City probably wins it but man the Pacers look really good they’re playing great and Turner was a big factor in the fourth quarter tonight after a kind of early struggle anyway um Fischer brought up M Turner in conjunction with the Hawks so it was also with some cold water jake wrote that before the run Indiana is on the Hawks were thinking of Turner as a potential sign and trade target using the Murray exception potentially so basically what I’ve said before like in previous free agency previews about how the only way to get Miles Turner in Atlanta probably is to do a signing trade no surprise there that’s something I’ve said many times now it wasn’t a crazy thought a few weeks ago i would say there was some buzz he could get kind of get get away from Indiana but given that Indiana is now in the finals and now I’m updating this leading the finals two to one with no real way to replace him jake wrote even earlier today that the assumption that is out there what I have heard too is that Turner is likely to stay in Indiana which is makes a lot of sense like they they’re a good team they’re in the finals they met with the championship he’s their guy at center and Jake wrote that Turner is quote likely to come to terms on a new deal that pays him at least $30 million in average annual value end quote with the Pacers so without going crazy deep into this there was a report earlier this week from Grant Absith I believe was on rg.com about Turner people ask me about I don’t think it was like worth a deep dive on the podcast but it basically just said the Hawks could be interested in Miles Turner so yeah I’m sure they could have been interested they probably are interested to some degree i was going to lay out if I needed to how unlikely that that was financially because Jake kind of did it for me a little bit on his reporting today but the Hawks to just to say this plainly do not have cap space to offer Miles Turner a huge deal it’s the mid-level or nothing on cap space so have it has to be a sign and trade they can happen but they’re hard to negotiate and they require three-way cooperation between one team another team and the player and the player agent the Pacers in the finals they need Turner i’m not saying it’s a 0% chance but I would say it’s unlikely to be sure that the Hawks will get Miles Turner also there’s a whole different discussion that I will have if I need to have it about whether that’s even a good idea turner is a good player to be sure but he definitely has strong flaws like he does have the skill set that everybody wants of three-point shooting and shot blocking is also a really bad rebounder inside the arc scoring like he’s not a perfect player he’s a good player for sure but he’s almost 30 and you know all those things so anyway I understand the interest because that archetype of shooting and ri protection is very valuable but uh I’ll get back to this if we need to but in the meantime it seems like the cold water is out there and I would agree with the cold water because of all the factors in play the difficulty of of doing signup trades and the fact that the Pacers are again leading the finals after three games one more thing here before we get to a Trey Young rumbling later in the podcast um this kind of came out of nowhereish today the New York Knicks who are still looking for a head coach uh apparently requested permission to talk to Coins Snider about their opening now that might seem shocking it’s less shocking when you realize that the Knicks have now talked to reportedly teams about Chris Finch in Minnesota Emma Udoka in Houston Jason Kidd in Dallas and I believe I even saw Billy Donovan’s name today in Chicago so Quinn’s not alone in this but a lot of established coaches who are safe in their jobs it seems like are the guys the Knicks are trying to at least talk about uh Shams also reported immediately that the Knicks were quote firmly denied end quote by the Hawks trey Young replied on Twitter with with quote hell no end quote and some crying emojis so that was funny trey’s had coins back quite a bit it seems like uh all hunky dory there as I’ve said many times so nothing huge here nothing there’s no like takeaway other than this is what happened now I guess two observations on this number one is that I was getting asked a lot like two months ago if Quinn was in trouble after the season and I basically said that he was nowhere near fired from what I was understanding i said the day that the Hawks actually fired Landry Fields that keeping Quinn was actually an endorsement of Quinn that day because normally if you’re going to fire the GM you might consider firing the coach i thought that was spoke volumes that they didn’t that they did not do that and even stronger about that right now i think he’s not anywhere close to being fired there’s evidence there i think he’s quite safe and even as they were talking to front office candidates I heard through the grape vine that they were telling front office people that Quinn was going to be the coach like there were basically two not stipulations but like plainly presented things like hey president a basketball operate operations candidate you’re gonna have a GM and an coach is Quinn Snider and you could certainly say that’s not the greatest way to do a president search which I would actually kind of agree with even though I like Quinn and I like anie you’re not going to get the same level of candidate if you’re making stipulations like that but it does say that Tony wrestler it seems like is committed to Anie and he’s committed to Quinn and that’s another reminder here of just why they said no the second thing is that I know that not every Hawks fan loves Quinn Snider and are the win loss records have been incredible in Atlanta but he has very clear respect around the league as a high level coach now I’m not saying he’s Eric Bolstrip i’m not saying he’s a top five coach in the league i would not say that actually i I think that Quinn is a good coach i don’t think Quinn’s an elite coach there are guys I’d rather have in a vacuum um I think he’s good at his job i think he’s smart i know the Hawks again Hawk’s not not always in love with him but I think he’s above average solidly and and making the rounds today making calls about this topic when it came out people around the league um people that you know work with agencies or work with other teams or anyway the consensus was that people still think Quinn is good like you don’t have to think you don’t have to agree with that but the general league feel is that Quinn is good and it was not a surprise to everyone that he was at least being called when it came to uh the Knicks and having some interest but hey he’s still the Hawks head coach and isn’t going anywhere it seems all right one more rumory thing in a second it comes actually about Trey Young and the Sacramento Kings of all teams we’ll get to that more in just one moment today is brought to you by 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the Kings and the Hawks talking about Trey Young and a framework of a deal and by a deal I mean a trade to send Trey to Sacramento he did also say in that same piece that the talks have cooled from what he had heard so even the report is not saying that there’s anything happening now between the Hawks and the Kings but it made it way to like hoops hype it was kind of out there and people were asking me if this was real or not basically what to make of this report um earlier this summer Jake Fischer said I said like the signs were pointing to Trey sticking around Atlanta i still have heard that for the most part there’s the other domino the extension which I talked about ad nauseium already this summer and will happen I’m sure a lot more later on in the summer but we all know the deal here if you don’t the short version is Trey is extension eligible starting in about three week two and a three weeks and there’s the Domino like extension negotiations there whether to keep him basically it’s there’s three options there is keep him with an extension keep him with no extension or trade those are the three options i think the most likely outcome is keep and extend followed by keep and not extend and then trade but we will see things can change um I have not to put it this way I have not heard about like active two-way super engaged talks between the Kings and the Hawks at this point that does not mean they haven’t happened like I said before there’s a lot of uncertainty here and uh it’s something that people don’t necessarily realize um and I learned more as I cover the league for longer it’s been a long time now there are generally way more quote unquote talks between teams than people actually realize what I mean by that is the vast majority of them are not reported and they don’t rise to be like particularly notable it might be one call or it’s like hey what’s this guy’s what’s your asking price it could be something like that could be like is there you call on a player and it’s like is there any chases available no hang up the phone that kind of thing happens all the time and it’s not regularly get reported it could be one call could be four calls we don’t know it could be one-sided the Kings might really like Trey Young if I was the Kings I would really be calling them out Trey Young the Kings are kind of ruerless in some ways like I know they’re kind of in the same area as the Hawks in the win loss department but the Hawks have a young core that makes sense together and the Kings frankly do not and that is the difference there so if I’m the Kings and Trey Young is available which I don’t I don’t even know if he is but I would call no beef there on the other side of things I don’t really see this is me now this is not I’m not the GM i don’t personally see a lot of fruitful trade options between the Hawks and the Kings that I would be enticed by granted I’m higher on Trey than some maybe there’s a three-team deal available or whatever um I would not be trying to trade Trey i’ve said that before i say that again now um but part of this is like the Kings only have a ton of appealing assets they have they have draft picks um Trey makes a lot of money too like you have to match salary in the NBA that that’s one of the dominoes of NBA trades so they have two very expensive players on their roster in Demonus Sabonis and Zack Lavine i would assume it’s not a Sabonis for Trey swap maybe I’m wrong about that in whatever whatever hierarchy this would be but put that to the side um I would not want Lavine especially without Trey like it’s kind of an odd fit i’m not saying Lavine’s bad he’s a good player it’s a big contract for two more years i don’t necessarily love that deal um as a centerpiece maybe a Lavine and like every pick the Kings have swapped for Trey if the Hawks were rated to Trey Trey that’s not insane but I don’t think that’s a good idea for me sabonis is obviously good but that’s different um then you have Demar De Rozan and Malik Monk who make like half of what Trey makes each i wouldn’t want D Rozan necessarily on that deal it’s not bad for what he does he’s an interesting player kind of flawed but also skilled still at this point in time monk is a good player on a good contract but he’s not like a headliner for me on a Trey Young trade is kind of what I put that so if you made me do a trade with the Kings for Trey if you said you have to Brad Roland choose a deal with the Kings for Trey Young it would be a combination of Malik Monk Keegan Murray and whatever filler salary and then picks and assets that’s what I want to get if I was the Hawks if you made me do a trade I want Monk to be a shot creator for you probably ideally a third guard in my opinion but like an awesome third guard like an elite third guard could be a starter good player good contract and Murray is not taking a huge step forward but he’s a good player like can defend can shoot it all those things maybe you get Deon Carter in the deal draft picks that’s not enough money by the way just those two guys for Trey so I’m going to stop here and not do the rabbit hole of this because I don’t think it’s that serious at this moment in time maybe it would be at some point maybe it’s a more good series um in fact on that podcast reference once before I do this today Samini and Bry Simon talked about Trey trades and they were going they went through the whole league quickly of like what teams we even make sense and they kind of didn’t even talk about the Kings it was like they breeze by and that but it’s a good exercise like one reason I have said on the show and I’ll say again right now that I don’t think Trey has sorry I’ll be I’ll take the more affirmative point i think Trey is worth more to the Hawks than he is in a trade which I’ve said many times part of that is that Trey’s awesome the other part of that maybe is that I don’t think there’s a huge market for him if you go like team to team to team there are teams that would like to have Trey or should like to have Trey the Kings are one of those teams but there aren’t that many of them so all that said interesting situation I guess i’m going to do the short answer now and stop but for now just to put a button in this right now just to answer the questions I’ve been getting and I got probably literally 20 questions if if not more than that about this I am quite skeptical that I would like a trade of Trade of the Kings if that was if that was to happen i’m not the GM but I’ve also not heard that there are like super interesting trade negotiations happening there could they have made calls sure i I think the Hawks did talk to teams about Trey Young last summer now nothing got close they ended up trading Deonte that was the right move i said that much of the time worked out great but it wasn’t It’s not like they are hanging up the phone on everyone who calls about Trey for the last year year and a half they used to do that four years ago now you pick up the phone i don’t I don’t love that but I get why they’re doing it it’s different situation now but the short version is I don’t know of anything active close with the Kings or any team my projection still as of June 11th into June 12th is Trees on the team into next year but that’s the little reporting that was out there and my interpretation of it all right everybody that’s all I have on a relatively brisk episode on a Wednesday evening into Thursday i will have at least one more show this week hopefully sometime on Friday i have a guest plan but you never want to commit to that unless it’s uh done so I don’t want to announce that but I will have a show at some point on Friday if nothing else and then into next week and beyond so stay tuned for that please subscribe to the podcast anywhere you find podcasts Apple Spotify YouTube etc also please tell your friends follow the show on x/ Twitter lots onhawks you can follow me there at BT Roland and follow me on Blue Sky BT Roland 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Brad Rowland (@BTRowland) Episode 1994 of the Locked on Hawks podcast, breaking down the latest intel around the Atlanta Hawks. Topics include mixed reporting on Atlanta’s potential to trade up for Khaman Maluach (or anyone else) in the 2025 NBA Draft, whether Myles Turner is a realistic summer target, the Knicks’ pursuit of Quin Snyder, the Sacramento Kings potential trade interest in Trae Young, and much more.

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