Kevin Durant chase: Should the Miami Heat acquire AND extend? | Five on the Floor

Kevin Durant chase: Should the Miami Heat acquire AND extend? | Five on the Floor

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can follow me at Ethan Jing with five in sports got Alex Leto you can follow him at Tropical Blanket got lots of episodes going up a lot on the draft and other things but anytime there’s anything related to Kevin Durant we’re going to break in so that’s basically what we’re doing today we’re going to give you the latest and then we’re going to pose a question and Alex can’t say it’s a tough one because I gave it to you a couple hours ago would you extend Kevin Durant so everything we we talk about today is going to lead to that question but let me give you the latest uh Shams is reporting there’s been a lot of reporting that Durant’s going to be traded prior to uh prior to the draft okay it’s coming up on June 25th by the way join our coverage we will be down at the arena on June 25th myself Alex and Brady i’ve reported before that the Heat at the deadline offered Jimmy Butler Nicole Yovic and a first round pick josh Richardson was originally in it that was as far as they could or would go because the Suns couldn’t aggregate salaries so there was a lot of stuff that would have had to play out i know some are questioning that reporting barry has the same reporting it’s the correct reporting i’m standing by my reporting okay the Suns asked for a lot more the question now is whether they’re in position to ask for more and one of the things that the Heat can’t offer now is Jimmy Butler they don’t have his contract anymore obviously so there’s frameworks of deals which likely would include Andrew Wiggins Duncan Robinson’s contract which could be wiped out which would save the Suns a lot of money which is something they need to do because they’re so far over the Second Apron or will be so far over the Second Apron and then we’re talking first round picks and like one or two young players probably and the question is like which young player is it Hakez is it Yoic is it where and I think that’s how the Suns would evaluate them as I’m doing the hand signal here likely how the Heat would evaluate them at this stage now we also have the issue of teams that could get involved and that’s where there was new reporting today so Shams reported at ESPN and again you got to take all this with a grain of salt because agents are out there executives are out there there’s smoke screens we’re close to the draft we’re close to free agency and all the rest of this people just put out stuff that they hear from one person or whatever but basically he’s saying that the teams that are involved in having communication with the Suns or W which Kimman who is Durant’s agent/ business manager are the Rockets the Wolves the Spurs the Heat and the Knicks and we’ve mentioned all five of those teams as we’ve done episodes we’ve talked about all five of those teams the Knicks are like a later rival to this because we really didn’t know what they were going to be doing but the three in the west have been the three in the west we’ve talked about all along the only issue was would OKC maybe get involved but it doesn’t appear that that’s something that’s going to happen at this point okay but all of these teams Alex have advantages over the Heat in terms of getting Durant but then there’s also caveats with all of them so for instance the Wolves the the Wolves the Spurs and the Rockets all have a higher pick to trade right am I right about that the Spurs certainly do the Rockets Spurs have two they have the second pick and the 14th pick although I don’t think there’s any way they trade the second pick second pick and the 14th pick the uh the I’m sorry the Rockets do as well right and then where the Wolves pick but they pick higher right they’re like 17 or 18 something like that they’re one of those two okay and and most people wouldn’t think that because they were better than the Heat this year but it’s because they have picks from other teams and of course the Heat have a pick from another team which drop them because they don’t have their own pick at 15 they have the Spurs pick at excuse me the Warriors pick at 20 so all three of those teams in the West before we get to the Knicks all three of those teams in the West have a better pick to trade than the Heat’s 20th pick all three of those teams also have a better team than the Heed to join and I’m saying that in the Spurs case even though they didn’t have a better record because they have WBY who’s doing like a retreat right now and is going to come back and destroy the league we’re calling Zambayyama okay whatever so you have the the perk of playing with WBY they’ve got the reigning they got a rookie of the year in Stfan Castle they have a more promising future at the moment than the Heat they have a stable organization like the Heat um they’re breaking in a 38-year-old coach but the Heat did that in 2008 that went pretty well so the Spurs are attractive the Wolves are attractive because Ant is there and the Rockets are attractive because they’re loaded with young players and they they were second in the conference they also have more assets to potentially trade the Suns all three of those teams do if they choose to dip into those assets but that’s the question and this is why I think Alex this is becoming kind of a two team race i think it’s the Spurs and the Heat and I’m gonna I’m gonna go through this a little bit one the Rockets don’t seem that interested throughout they have not unless they’re they’re totally sandbagging this and I don’t get the sense that they are there has not been like for Giannis yes but for KD there does not I know the Texas ties and all that there no state tax thing there does not seem to be a lot of push from Houston to break up the young core to go get him even though they have enough young pieces to do it minnesota it’s come out and maybe this is posturing that they don’t want to trade Jana McDaniels and they don’t want to move Nas Reed who’s a free agent who they could sign and trade they’re looking to move Gobear or um I’m sorry who am I missing here uh well I’m not sure who else would be because Randall and Reed are both free agents i’m sorry they both have player options and Nikqu Alexander Walker as a free agent and then well the talk to so the talk today Alex was maybe Randall Randall or and then I doubt Minnesota would want to do McDaniels they don’t they don’t and so apparently he’s off the table so if that’s the case you’re talking about Randall or Goenzo perhaps as a as a contract that could be thrown in there a contract but uh as a as a as a core like like if I if I’m Phoenix you have to look from their perspective too like yeah I want Jana McDaniels right like don’t I mean well they want it so I think Go could have some some interest for them because he’s obviously like we we know what he’s good at what he does and they they really want a big so I’m sure that could have some some intrigue from the Suns uh but this is why this is why I get I want to hear more about your explanation for when it comes to the Heat in the Spurs because I’m very much like I’m still trying to figure out like who has the best offer here because I I think it’s a little bit complicated with some of like the free agent stuff with Minnesota for example you mentioned the Rockets and like what they will and won’t be willing to offer um which of course you can apply it to anybody it’s like they have this but will they be willing to offer it but with the Rockets there’s been so much thrown as far as like you know they don’t want to break up you know their young core it was actually reported recently too that they kind of cooled on Booker so if they cooled on on on the idea of going after Booker maybe it’s just because the Suns are not going to move him but if they Why would they be that’s my question too i don’t understand that that much though right but okay and I thought they would be a player for Jimmy because I thought I thought they would lose in the first round no matter who they played but especially if they played a veteran team like Golden State because I just don’t think they have a go-to guy and so I I think they I think Durant helps them in that regard he’s just not on the timeline of their other players and they don’t seem inclined to trade Sangoon they don’t seem inclined i mean Jaylen Green I think they trade but like they they don’t seem inclined i mean Jabari Smith for the Suns no Booker he’s not He’s not no that’s why it’s like maybe maybe he gets like in a theoretical deal with the Rockets he gets flipped to another team and you know the Suns get more picks as a result like you know that could happen of course but just but Houston also has Phoenix’s picks so that’s why see that’s one of the reasons Houston was thrown out there so Phoenix if they want to get their picks back but I I my thing on on Houston is they got so many good young players that it doesn’t seem like they even have room for all of them so I understand the idea of cashing in for a Giannis but cashing in for a 37 year old we’ll get to the Heat’s perspective on this in a second it just doesn’t seem like they’re inclined and I’ve talked to a couple of national media friends and I’m not calling these reports but people who know the use of the front office a little bit and they don’t they don’t think they’re sandbagging they don’t think that the Rockets are really going to get that involved here so I I’m just that’s an educated guess to say that of those three teams out there it’s really the Spurs there’s been a lot of buzz about the Spurs gambo who’s been right about a lot of stuff who covers the Suns out there has said the Spurs Simmons said the Spurs and the Spurs have a lot to I mean they could offer vassel they could there’s a lot of things they could offer without having to dip into their most precious access assets which obviously are WBY for the Rockets too the same by the way shout out to you because that that podcast we did yesterday you had the expert veteran decision to post that one first and you ended up being so right because it would have been dated with the Durant news that came out today so I’m going to give you a shout out there you just We literally should have posted this podcast before we started it uh cuz by the time this comes out it’s going to but you you’ll get it up quick and I do want to get to the extension part on the other side but I I’m saying of the teams in the west it’s San Antonio and then you look east and it’s apparently we’re not hearing Orlando we’re not hearing Detroit some of the teams I thought could get involved here toronto where’d that go shams didn’t mention them i thought I mean is Toronto all in on Giannis is this just another case of throwing Messiah out there but they’re not really going to do anything i thought they’d be maybe in the mix but the Knicks I I understand the attraction with the Knicks but then the report came out from reporters in New York who I trust who say they’re not in on Durant so if they’re not in under Durant and then you take a look at the rest of the the East and we know the weakness of the East the Heat’s only advantage here but it’s a it’s a it’s a key advantage I think and we’ve talked about it is that if Durant wants an easier path to win now if you read his tweets going back at people yesterday talking about the greatness of his career and just it doesn’t seem like he he’s going to do anything just to please anybody else for legacy purposes right he’s quoting how many points he scored and all the rest of that but if winning is a priority in any way he might win bigger with San Antonio but there’s a lot of teams in the way out there there’s not any anywhere near as many teams in the way in the East and so I could see the attractiveness for him in that regard i understand the Heat’s interest i know we’ve talked about it a lot i know some don’t agree with it but I understand where it’s coming from and then the question becomes okay what is Phoenix going to ask for and is Ishbia gonna ask for everything like he did before and then are you willing to trade where but I I I’ll I want to get to this next on the other side because it’s the core question and Sham said it today durant’s expecting an extension the Heat just balked at giving Jimmy an extension which by the way would have been one less year than Durant in terms of when it ends because Durant’s new extension would be after this upcoming season for two more years whereas Jimmy’s extension that he wanted which Golden State ultimately gave him with a few more million okay they b him two for 120 basically that’s what Durant’s looking for okay but that extension that Miami was going to give uh Jimmy just would have wiped out next year replaced it with 3 million more and then given him one additional year durant you’re talking about taking Durant one year longer than you were going to take Jimmy and he’s going to be older he’s already older okay so on the other side of this I want to ask that question would you extend Kevin Durant because if you’re not willing to extend Kevin Durant then why are what are we even talking about here uh but before we do let’s talk about something important everybody knows I’m old uh I’ve leaned into it at this point you know I met Abraham Lincoln according to my daughter i was there for Wiltz i mean Larry Bird like I you know I was like I was already 40 years old when Larry Bird was playing uh but when it comes to money you got to be modern and that’s Cash App so you got to check out uh Cash App and our code here it’s important if you download Cash App and sign up use our exclusive referral code on the floor that’s on the floor that’s the rest of five on the floor in your profile you send five bucks to a friend within 14 days you get $10 dropped right into your account so you’re basically doubling your money terms apply but check it out again it’s Cash App this is where you want to go because not only will you feel safe when you send money they look out for 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durant’s new team would have him under contract for 174.7 million over three years 54.7 this season 57.3 the next season 62.7 in 2728 he will be 39 at that point is that right 27 28 he was born 37 38 and age 39 seasons yeah he was born in 88 yeah so he’d be almost 40 right are you comfortable doing that you were comfortable doing it with Jimmy but it was one fewer year yep that was definitely And he’s younger like you mentioned before obviously Durant you know the cache the resume you know his his level on like the list of all-time greats all of that speaks for itself what he’s still great at despite the things that he’s fallen off at like we all know that right i don’t have to get too much into it what I will say is if you’re trading for Kevin Durant and this does kind of relate to the Jimmy stuff in a way because I kind of held a similar opinion if you’re trading for KD if you are in the contention window pay up it’s that simple if you’re trading for KD you pay him it’s not for a one-year rental that’s not the modern NBA and it’s definitely not going to happen for a Kevin Durant type of player unless that’s what he wants unless he wants to be like a he wants to go into free agency or whatever but if he is looking for an extension like that’s what you do if you’re a contender man you pay up you pay and you get everybody secure you don’t have it you know something hanging over you like a dark cloud all season where can potentially blow up right i don’t have to tell you fans about that and just in general um like if you are trading assets what even if you’re if it’s not like like like let’s say that you’re the Spurs right you’re not trading the number two pick you’re not trading a capsule you’re obviously not trading a WBY right you’re not trading your most valuable things but even if that’s the case you’re trading to get into that contention window so I think you pay you pay the price at that point he’s still good at what he’s good at and that is a price you only pay if you’re contending i agree with you entirely on this one uh I just wonder how you’re going to make the money work and I it’s not I guess it’s not my problem but you’re right you’re going to have to pay up and if you’re if your core if you’re deciding that your core is going to be Bam Kevin Durant and Tyler then you’re planning on giving Tyler a pretty significant extension too and so you’re looking at I mean I let’s look just look let’s just look at the cap sheet right now okay the cap table right now uh BAM this year making 37 but the the the extension has not hit yet so let let’s go let’s go into 2627 okay just out of uh curiosity see try to see what they would add up to by the way you be you’d be moving Wiggins in this deal most likely so you’re moving his 30 million out right now and likely Duncan but Duncan was uh done after next year anyway right because he was that was the uh the partial guarantee in last year contract but Bam uh could be out of here he has the the early termination option coming up by the way who does he does he does you’re right i know he could absolutely all right before he even have a chance to wave him we need to do a dunk episode all right let me go through this cap table here real quick bam this is 2627 51 million tyler right now is at 33 but again could be an extension that could significantly raise that right well they don’t have to that would when would that kick in if they sign him to Would that kick in 2728 would it be 26 27 what’s Oh I got to see what the end of the contract is right right now he’s got he his last year of his deal would be 20 would be 2627 to 33 million okay okay yeah so it’s 2728 okay so So right now we’re saying for 2627 you would have Durant’s number for 2627 would be 57 million bam would be at 51 and we’re at 108 million right there tyler at 33 so you’re at 141 million for three players no Wiggins as of I’m assuming what’s clear what what’s the number what’s the what’s the line there well Well we don’t know yet right because but but the next the next biggest contract would be Kyle Anderson last year of his deal at nine so you would have only as of now as of now now DaVon Mitchell Yovic could get ext you know extended stay and be above plus well whoever they draft is not going to be over 10 million at that point i’m talking about so you’re looking at players who’ be eight figure players you could have DaVon you could have Yovic right um depending on what happens with them this offseason and others but other than them you would have three players over 10 million but they’d be making 57 51 and 33 respectively so you’re talking about $141 million tied up into three guys and that’s before Tyler’s extension which would kick in the next year so let’s just look at the next year what you could potentially be looking at in 2728 if you if you take a look at this at 2728 you’ve got BAM’s extension is fully kicked in by then okay and I’m just pulling this off a spoke track for those who are wondering why I’m scrolling here bam uh oh excuse me why did that come up i’m sorry um there it’s still filtering okay but I think Bams goes up to 56 something along those lines we’ve got Durant going we got Durant then at at uh 62 at 62 and Tyler could be somewhere in the 40s for the first year honestly to sum it up they’re probably just going to take up like 95% or more of your cap right there maybe that’s 90% well and you’re going to get a bump with the TV contract and all that stuff you can have a little bit more wiggle room but I’ll just I’ll just ask this i mean are you comfortable with BAM Tyler and Kevin Durant taking up an enormous percentage of your cap under your tax lines or tax line under your aprons uh under this CBA where we’ve seen it’s very difficult to have more than two really high price players you are if you if you extend Durant and I’m with you you don’t trade for Durant unless you extend him i I I’m stand by that i stand by what you’re saying completely but if you are doing this you are committing to a core of Bam Durant and Tyler and saying that that team can get out of the Eastern Conference that if you put other pieces you’re going to have to find some minimums you’re going to have to you’re whatever your d But the draft pick this year though Alex is probably going for Durant right so you’re not paying this one but if you’re keeping where down the road you’re looking at an extension for him potentially i don’t know that Hawkins is going to put himself in extension eligibility for the Heat probably traded that would be past KD’s window here because he’s got three more years okay all right so you’re not as worried so you’re basically saying right now you’re trying to operate with Bam Durant Tyler maybe a resigned Mitchell yoic is probably gone okay you’ll get Rosier off the books next year if you’re not able to move in this off season and probably where right on a rookie contract and Larson on a rookie contract second round rookie contract and then you’re looking at minimums you’re looking at can you grab a Tias Jones for the minimum can you grab you know the guys who are out there back on the team i I think Burks would definitely be back maybe it’s redemption run right but are you right but this is what we’re talking about is this because I put this on our Discord on off the floor and like 65% are comfortable extending KD but and I again if you’re going to acquire him you’ve got to be comfortable extending him and I’m in favor of them acquiring it by the way as long as they don’t give up too many of the young pieces i Where is where I get a little dicey on this okay and I I hate giving up Yovic but again you got to get you got to give to get particularly if there’s other suitors here but are are you comfortable you know basically saying this is your team this is your team i guess yeah right but in the sense of like it’s a lot better than what’s going on right now but that’s also a low bar and not exactly what should be driving your decisions man what I come down to it’s like if you’re making a trade like this it’s because you’re going into a short-term window right with with Durant being older and all that at the same time we all know that this doesn’t make them a favorite but then that’s something that you’ve got to be okay with if you’re making this move it’s like you’re you’re you’re making a move like that to get yourself back in the mix with the hope of doing something it’s not like you become an outright favorite and honestly shout out to um shout out to Wes Goldberg i believe he was the one from from Unlock who made this point every trade every move shouldn’t always be looked at under the the the scope of will this make them the favorites will this make you the champion well like in that like and and he said it about Seakum in that trade as an example and I couldn’t agree more i couldn’t agree more because fans are always talking about well this doesn’t put you past Boston or put put you past whoever it’s like yeah obvious name the three best teams in the league and be like this doesn’t make you better than them but at the end of the day like are you trying to make your team better or not and we can argue about whether or not this right move and that’s 100% valid i 100% a valid conversation i just don’t think every move should be looked at under the guise of is this gonna make you a favorite but with this conversation you are literally making that trade to become you know like some sort of playoff long relevant you’re you’re you’re making this trade to become relevant again absolutely absolutely i’m comfortable with it to matter again if you’re okay with that if you’re not expecting you know a finals trip every year um and I think if you know trying to look at it from the heat side like if they decided this is the move that they would want to go to I think they would try it out it would be really tight um on the books like you said and then maybe if it you know like they dangle Tyler or something doesn’t work out like I think there’s ways to maneuver but it’s not an ideal like I don’t think it’s an ideal situation by any means like it’s going to be a lot of question marks as far as like does Tyler Bam KD get you close enough how much can you put around them um they’ll be in the mix still be a playoff team and you know um you got no Boston next year which is all nice and good i don’t know how much of a championship contender it makes you but it’s just on the other side of this if they don’t land one of these guys they’re going to end up just trying to get under the tax or at the very least get under the first apron and then they’ll have more assets they’ll have more assets in 26 to work with which we’ve talked about and there’ll be more options the options in 26 though is the the free agency which never happens anymore no I I know I know but but even they will be in better position with some of what they’ve got i I here’s here’s where I’m at with it and we’ll do more episodes on this okay they want to be relevant they don’t like being irrelevant they they become irrelevant over the past couple years it’s a stop gap option and they’ve sold their tickets for all of us by the way that’s all I care about at this point i mean I I I you know look I here’s the thing he’s a great player he’s still a great player he’s still a great player i mean the the metrics don’t lie what he produces when he plays okay i I don’t love paying a guy up until he’s close to 40 but if you were to say one guy in the league whose game will age well we’ve always said it was KD we’ve always said it was KD because of what he and it has and it’s because of what he relies on is not something that’s going to be stripped by age now is he going to miss time with injuries yes he has um will he try to play when he can yes and that’s what makes him different from Jimmy i wish they had a guy who could get to the rim that’s my thing i know i know but I’m going to throw this at you and we’ll close on this because we’re going to do a whole another episode on this i could make the argument that this is the best fitting three person three player pairing that he’s had since Golden State i I I think because there wasn’t any defender there wasn’t any defender in the ones in Phoenix and in Brooklyn and so I if I’m the Heat I’m looking at this and I’m saying he hasn’t had a BAM in the last few years to to protect him defensively to work with him defensively uh and and allow him to be himself also this takes so much pressure off Bam on the offensive end uh that I think we could see the best of Bam from an efficiency standpoint but look you look at you look at what he had in Brooklyn yes they had Nick Claxton who was coming up but they had you look what he had in Brooklyn okay harden and Kyrie it was just like I mean it’s just like a it I mean it’s like a summer league thing i mean there was three scorers out there together okay i know Kyrie kind of sunk it with the whole thing with the vaccine and hard whatever but you you look in Phoenix Booker Beal and Durant why would you put that together i think the Nets was a lot better than the Suns won as far as because Harden and Kyrie were much better especially Harden like I think Harden was able to play point guard and and like he is a natural there as a facilitator whereas Booker BKD you’re literally shoving three scorers together who can playmake and you’re just make something out of it and like you mentioned no defensive infrastructure i I completely but that’s the biggest thing that’s what I’m talking about the defensive infrastructure I I understand that that here look Tyler is not Harden as a as a creator playmaker okay no matter why I think a hard I’m not going to make that argument but I’m saying if you’re going to try to get the best out of Bam and Tyler if you’re going to pay them what you’re planning to pay them and you want to maximize them well if you get a guy like KD to take the offensive pressure off of Bam that will help maximize the things that Bam does best okay and with Tyler as a second scorer with the attention going to KD with what we’ve seen Tyler has been able to accomplish even when everybody’s been on him even though obviously in the playoffs it became too challenging I I understand the Heat’s thinking on that and I also understand why KD may look at it and say I can just be me there i’ll play for Spo 10 good west teams just to get somewhere in the playoffs you can get to a long playoff run in the east like it’s actually possible correct in the west it’s like everything has to go right you have to be one of the best teams in the league all the time in the East yeah not necessarily baby the Heat have shown that over and over it’s a good place to spend your late 30s i mean just getting yourself 27 and just trying to get a four seed in the East and see what you can do with it i I I see the I I see the the the reason for all of it from all sides do I think they’ll ultimately get him i still think if the Spurs really want him they’ll get him i just think they have too much to offer over the top here if they want to do it it’s I would put them in there i would put them in there and I’m not to get down into I’m not going to do all that right now but like it would really come down to like Minnesota would have a package around Goar and maybe a pick or two would have a package around Pat and maybe a pick or two um if offer that which would which is you know something that we don’t even know but then you’ve got the Rockets who who as you mentioned with the Spurs earlier like they can afford they give up stuff and by the way they have the highest pick out of all the teams mentioned at number 10 so they could throw that in they could throw other salary fillers not give up any of their young core and still have they could go KD into the short-term window since they’re already good and then come out on the other side of it with still all of their best young players so I would throw the Rockets in there does KD really want to play in Texas though i wonder i don’t know i mean where he went to college was I I I know but they I I just feel for him like in Miami this is the best time for him to come to M one of the problems I thought about him coming to Miami in 16 even though he was tempted uh and obviously Golden State won out because they had Curry and Draymond and Clay but one of the reasons I thought that 16 didn’t make sense was it was too close to the time that LeBron was here and there was always this rivalry between KD and LeBron i experienced it i wrote an article about KD through LeBron’s eyes and KD challenged me the All-Star game about it okay there was always this rivalry between the two of them and it was two years again after LeBron had left it’s now more than a decade i don’t I don’t think that anybody is going to disparage KD for going to Miami now it’s not like LeBron going to Miami to play with Dwayne if anything they’re going to say “Well he doesn’t We talked about this in the last episode he doesn’t care about winning if he came here if they traded for him KD went to Miami to retire oh man we’re going to be circle well that’s what they said about Jimmy and whatever you want to say negatively about Jimmy that certainly was not the case at least not until the last season so I I I think it makes sense for all sides i would ex I you have to extend them if you’re acquiring him but you got to be comfortable that this is your team this is your team and he fans are going to be “Oh they can’t get this guy can’t get No you can’t i I know they’re gonna say well you get But the point of this episode was would you extend him i think both of us are saying yes you have to if you’re trading for him that doesn’t even mean though that I’m and yes I would extend him if you trade for him but that doesn’t mean that I’m like necessarily like ecstatic like yeah this is it you know what I mean i know but it’s it’s it’s like yeah let’s try this this this should this could be fun and this could be good let’s just try it because everything else is just not looking great that that’s that’s the best I got i’m with you all right uh it’s it’s I’m with you it’s like you find the Wendy’s because it’s the only thing that your other choices you have no other choices in better than a Wendy’s and in a town that you go to so you’re like you know what i can get the chicken nuggets and a and and a baconater all right Alex appreciate it uh check out our sponsors Cash App download it use the code on the floor prize pick use the code FIV we’ll have more as stuff develops also draft episode with Adele make sure you check that one out we’re still doing those and Brady’s doing his draft series he’s breaking breaking down everybody he’s got the threads and he’ll be here on the podcast have a good one thank you for listening to the five on the floor on the five reason sports network after all someone needs to 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