The Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to the Magic

The Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to the Magic

[Applause] mor with a running start element overdone gasol will turn his he is gone memphis on top 17 remaining and finally now a three count it a 15-point lead for Memphis and Blake Griffin gets into it on the floor with Randol hard to tell if there are any punches being thrown under there but Griffin took except Adams going long mor [Applause] insanity you got to be kidding me welcome to Grits and Grinds a Memphis Grizzlies podcast desmond Bane got traded edition my name is Keith Parish the Grizzlies have traded Desmond Bane to the Orlando Magic a blockbuster trade a shocking trade for us Grizzlies fans they broke up their big three quite obviously and they traded Desmond for a hall of draft picks so on today’s episode going to talk about this huge trade before I do just a reminder if you want to support the creation of this show if you want to join my listener Slack channel and get some bonus content you can do all of that at patreon.com/fastbreak breakfast okay what a blockbuster what a shock what a way to start Father’s Day desmond Bane sent to the Orlando Magic for numerous first round picks however you count those first round picks is possibly up for debate but three of the first round picks are very strong we have the 16th pick in this year’s draft so that’s a tangible pick that you know exactly what it is so the Grizzlies get back in this year’s draft do I know anything about this year’s draft class no absolutely nothing i look forward to trying to find out something before next Wednesday’s first round but the Grizzlies get back in this year’s draft they get the 16th pick from the Magic they also get as of reporting that I’ve seen so far this Sunday they get the Magic’s 2028 and 2030 unprotected first round picks so they get three first round picks from the Magic they also get a pick swap in 2029 from the Magic which is top two protected so that’s a significant pick swap in 2029 they also get a pick swap in 2026 and this one is very confusing as best I understand it right now this is barely a pick this is a pick swap that the Grizzlies were already involved in this was this 2026 pick swap from the Suns that the Grizzlies have acquired again caveat as best I can understand it right now it was a four-way pick swap between the Suns the Wizards the Magic and the Grizzlies the Suns got the worst o of those four teams first round picks the Grizzlies got the second worst or the third best the Magic got the second best the Wizards get the best one now the Magic have removed themselves from the equation and the Grizzlies will get the second best draft pick of the Suns Wizards and their own pick in 2026 so the Grizzlies did not pick up another first round pick the Grizzlies have one first round pick in 2026 they still have one first round pick in 2026 they just have increased the odds that their pick could improve also the swap might not happen if the Grizzlies have like a worse record than the Suns or the Wizards then nothing happens but also the Suns and Wizards might be horrible in 2026 so this does have maybe a little bit of of really solid upside like what if the Wizards and Suns are both top 10 worst teams although the Wizards pick swap I think is protected one through eight when I said this was confusing I was not lying so I think ideally we want the Suns to finish with like a top five worst record the Wizards to finish with maybe the ninth worst record and then I think the Grizzlies could jump up to nine did you follow that it’s fine if you didn’t but regardless the Grizzlies got three first round picks for Desmond Bane plus another swap plus another kind of weirdish swap they also get veteran role players in Contavius Caldwell Pope and Cole Anthony this move gives the Grizzlies of course all those future draft assets it gets them another player for the roster next year or a couple more because you’re adding an extra player in Cole Anthony and Contavis Caldwell Pope you’re sending out one player you’re getting two players back plus you’re getting a draft pick in this year’s draft back you’re getting the 16th pick so they’re adding more players the onc court product for the Grizzlies it’s interesting like Contavius Caldwell Pope very useful role player he had a not amazing season for the Magic last year he shot 34% from the three-point line he didn’t make his three-pointers in the playoffs he averaged less than nine points per game um removed from being a teammate of Nikola Joic kcp’s numbers didn’t look as good but still he’s a quality 3N and D starter hopefully and I think it’s actually likely playing on a team with John Morant and Jiren Jackson Jr he’s going to get some nice looks from three-pointer he could bounce back there also certainly is the risk he’s cooked he’s been in the league for 13 years or this will be his 13th season coming up he is over 30 he might be done also he has a player option for 2026 2027 that’s a bad deal so this is not a great contract the Grizzlies are picking up but you can I think as a Grizz fan talk yourself maybe into it because he is a very good three and D player also Cole Anthony is a solid NBA rotation guy his deal has a team option for 2026 2027 that makes it I think a very attractive trade chip not only is Cole Anthony a useful bench guard in the NBA but being able to trade a contract a $13 million contract having that as matching salary with a team option to decline to get it off your books for next season is a very attractive trade chip so this move has given the Grizzlies a lot of options for what they could be doing this off season it gives them a lot of ways to build around Jaw and Jiren and also Zach Edit it doesn’t get them closer to winning immediately and so that makes it an interesting deal but I think the overwhelming response nationally from NBA analysts and the feeling probably that you have is like that is a big hall for Desmond Bane a guy who has not ever made an all-star team a guy who’s coming off a pretty rough playoff performance he averaged 15 points per game against the Thunder uh he averaged almost four turnovers per game against the Thunder it was a bad showing in the postseason of course he has a large contract that’s kicking in i think it had been a question it’s a fair question that we’ve been batting about how much more can this Grizzlies core or the old Grizzlies core of Jaw and Desmond and Jiren or Jaw Desmond Jiren and Edy if you want to include him how much more could they improve with the limitations some of them self-imposed with the salary limitations that the Grizzlies had and now this deal even if you kind of thought listen we can still build around our core and we’re still quite good this deal feels so aggressive from the magic you can understand them saying okay we kind of have to do this but I am still kind of in a state where my head is spinning a little bit i mean Desmond Bane he has been so good for the Grizzlies the past several seasons some of his all-time numbers in franchise history he’s 10th in franchise history in points he’s ninth in assists he’s third in three-pointers made he has like the four best free throw seasons in franchise history he’s first in franchise history in free throw percentage he in the postseason I mean he spearheaded the Grizzlies only playoff series win in the last 10 years against the Timber he averaged 23 and a half points per game in that series he had back-to- back 30point games against the Lakers in 2023 he has two of the top six single game scoring performances in franchise history he is an elite NBA player he should be a great fit on the Magic he’s absolutely I think a perfect fit for the Magic they need a scorer they need another guy who can distribute the basketball a little bit this is a move the Magic have made probably looking at the Eastern Conference looking at the the Celtics catastrophic injury concerns and salary issues looking at the Pacers making it to the finals the the Magic saying the East is wide open let’s go get Desmond Bane let’s make this happen hopefully all these picks we’re giving up aren’t going to be that good so it is quite the move now some of the ramifications for the Grizzlies some of the interesting parts of this it now makes them very able to go out and make other deals previously I said we’re limited in the things we can offer if you want to keep your team competitive because how can you trade and go get a Kevin Durant or a Jonathan Tedakumbo now you still have issues with this deal where you can’t aggregate the salaries back together this off season but later at the trade deadline this year I mean you could combine the contracts of KCP and Cole Anthony to basically trade for anybody throw in a Kchar with that throwing a Brandon Clark you can basically trade for absolutely anyone even if you don’t aggregate the salaries like right now KCP’s contract is big enough that you can bring back any player making less than $29 million do you want to finally make that Cam Johnson deal cam Johnson plus some of these picks you just picked up maybe you can make that happen there are plenty of other players out there making $29 million or less that you can now trade for if you attach KCP you can bring back a guy making $20 million by using Cole Anthony who again has a team option in 2026 2027 cole Anthony plus a couple picks maybe you can bring in a really high quality starter so that gives the Grizzlies some options there interestingly because of the added player you’re adding to the roster for next year in the 16th pick and because you turned Desmain into two other contracts interestingly this decreases the amount of cap space available we spent so much energy talking about the Grizzlies ability to try to renegotiate and extend Jiren Jackson Jr this moves them further from that goal as far as we can tell of course this massive shakeup also means maybe more big changes are on the way but without moving on from any other salary right now the Grizzlies have less cap space than they did by making this deal again when we think about the upcoming 2025 2026 season because with the added salary slot due to the 16th pick the Grizzlies I think only have like $4.5 million of cap space so I don’t know what that means as they seem to move further away from being able to give Jiren a competitive offer on a renegotiation and extension also looking at the roster now with Cole Anthony and Contavius Caldwell Pope you have increased the number of guaranteed contracts for next season from 11 to 12 you also if you pick up the 16th pick if you keep that pick that’s your 13th player this is not including Santi Dama restricted free agent if you keep Santi Alama that’s your 14th player if you give Cam Spencer a standard contract as many people believe is going to happen that’s 15 roster players but again so much is moving and this is such a monumental shift for the core maybe we don’t need to get too carried away counting the players that are going to be on the roster now one I think optimistic take on this trade beyond just the draft picks if you want to think about the basketball fit the actual basketball fit because I think like losing Desmond Bane hurts i love Desmond Bane maybe my favorite player on the team currently or was my favorite player on the team this is an all-time great Grizzlies player like I was pointing out i think when you think about where we were at many years ago looking like we had one of the brightest futures in the NBA you think about the window that the Grizz were in for winning and how it hasn’t gone that well you think about the careers of Jaw and Jiren and that they’re in their primes of their careers you’re thinking we’re trying to win right now how does a 2030 first round pick when Jaw and Jiren are 30 years old how does that help me get out of the first round this year or even next year or even two years from now of course those resources you brought in those assets can be exchanged for other things that can help you win right now but even beyond that I think there’s an optimistic take when you look at the fit on paper of what they’ve done when you bring in a championship level role player in Contavius Caldwell Pope a guy who doesn’t normally miss games you think about the low usage 3 and D role of KCP and I think you can dream of a on paper fit john with a healthy KCP with a year two hopefully improved Jaylen Wells plus Jiren Jackson Jr and Zakiti on paper that seems really good if you’re getting your offense you’re getting most of your shots from Jaw and Jiren and also Zakiti having three and D guys to space the court like that’s a no weak link scenario and I think I think you can talk yourself into it being something akin to the Rudy Gay trade where the Grizzlies somewhat unpopularly moved Rudy Gay for a very low usage Tan Prince and the Grizzlies had more success after doing that i think you could optimistically talk yourself into it being something like that now I do not think to be clear I don’t think moving on from Desmond Bane makes the Grizzlies better i think it actually really um raises more questions for what the offense is going to look like in a postseason series who’s going to get you some buckets like that seems actually much harder if a team can focus even more on Jiren sending doubles to Jiren and triples to Jiren knowing all right we have a 34% KCP shooter out there Jaws out there on the perimeter so like there are obviously huge questions for how this affects the Grizzlies on the court but I think you could at least say okay those guys Cole Anthony and KCP can contribute they are veterans they’re proven NBA players They’re good guys to have in your rotation i mean even Cole Anthony is a useful guy to have around i know I’m going to include him in every fake trade I come up with until he finally leaves the roster yes I’m going to include Cole Anthony in every fake trade I come up with for the near future however I don’t think there’s any reason to necessarily just like get rid of him immediately i don’t think like oh we have John Mar and Scotty Pippen Jr we don’t need Cole Anthony no false for me of course Jarant misses a lot of games i don’t think having just Jaw and Scotty Pippen Jr is enough having a tough gutty veteran competitor like Cole Anthony a guy who’s hit a bunch of gamewinners in his career i think that’s great to have on your roster it’s great to have around also Tomoselo supposedly with Paris basketball he had a bunch of small guards doing a bunch of great work maybe Cole Anthony can work well in that situation if he’s still around when training camp or the season starts now wrapping up I guess the bullet points of this I mean getting this many first round picks for Desmond Bane plus useful players again I think on paper Contavius Caldwell Pope and Cole Anthony very useful players to add to your roster getting this many picks is an impressive hall but also I would like to at least not like take victory laps on what seems like a good trade even if you remove your emotions about it about losing Desmond Bane i feel like the way the NBA is covered like people praise winning trades so much but like winning a trade even if the Grizzlies did win this trade like again it’s hard to say who won a trade the day it happened but saying “Okay we got three first round picks or four first round picks or five first round picks for Desmond Bane.” Winning that trade acquiring first round picks for good players is way easier than winning a playoff series like I understand this is an offer we can’t turn down i also understand saying we’re capped out j Desmond and Jiren together we’re capped out we can’t turn down an offer of three firsts and two swaps but winning the media cycle for acroving assets is not actually winning basketball games winning the basketball games is actually harder so I hope this doesn’t cause complacency among the fan base or the front office saying “Hey we did a good thing we finally won a trade we did a good thing look at all these first round picks we now have no I want to win basketball games we’re in John we’re in his peak.” Unless it already passed we’re in Jiren Jackson Jr.’s peak so like now hopefully they say we have the resources to build a squad that can get past the first round this year get past the second round this year or next year that we can finish the job we can get to the finish line of getting to the NBA finals so that’s my hope that this deal launches the Grizzlies into being able to do that and it doesn’t launch them into a like window where we say stuff like “Hey we got a lot of picks coming up oh it’s okay that we didn’t get out of the first round we have five first round picks over the next three seasons or something i’m I’m I’m not into that i don’t want that i know the goal is always to maintain a stable contender that has a long shelf life but like the key to that is a contender chris is not a contender trading Desmond Bane in the short term doesn’t make you a contender now you have to turn all those things you got into onc court product that makes you a contender anyways uh a couple of more news notes there actually are a couple of random news items I think interest Grizzlies fans taylor Jenkins is interviewing for the Knicks job that’s interesting also former Grizzlies beloved former Grizzly Steven Adams signed a three-year deal to stay with the Rockets three years $39 million fully guaranteed congratulations Steo anyways thanks everybody for listening um Bon Voyage Desmond Bane really miss you really loved that guy great player hopefully he does great stuff on the Magic and hopefully the Grizzlies are able to turn this into a lot of awesome stuff on the court in this upcoming season and the seasons beyond and uh also best of luck to everybody trying to learn about the NBA draft in the next eight days to figure out who the Grizzlies should take at 16 anyways if you want to support this show do that at patreon.com/fastbreak thank you so much to everyone who already does that all right happy Father’s Day hope you have a great Sunday i’ll talk to you soon go Grizz [Music]

The Grizzlies have traded Desmond Bane to the Orlando Magic for multiple unprotected 1st round picks, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Cole Anthony, according to reports. This episode discusses the deal, the draft pick haul, and the impact on the Grizzlies for the upcoming season and in the long-term.

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