Colin Cowherd & Jason Timpf PREDICT New York Knicks next coach | NBA Podcast
i wanted to uh move on to the Knicks so I I see this report this morning and it’s from Shams talking about how they’re just calling up around all these big shot coaches in the league jason Kid Emma Udoka Quinn Snyder Chris Finch what do you make of this bizarre behavior from the Knicks right now i’m not a tinfoil hat guy but um James Dolan who’s been in a band I’m not sure if he still is views himself as an artist and that’s why he is his his um his greatest achievement is not the Knicks i mean he he inherited the cable vision from his dad right it’s the Sphere in Vegas which is a remarkable Have you been there i think you I’ve been there six times Colin i absolutely love it yeah so it’s a remarkable musical uh engagement achievement all time in in the world and that’s really where his heart is irving Aves off a former great promoter um now I think he’s MGM management he’s one of his closest friends he was uh you know he was a had a record label that’s who that’s who James Dolan is so when he wants to get a GM he goes after a star Phil Jackson then he wanted Steve Kerr and Amari Starttomire on bad knees out of Phoenix and Tibs isn’t his kind of guy so who does he go after jason Kid who’s a star he’s interested in Kevin Durant who’s a star that’s who James Dolan is he’s hangs around stars he loves stars he’s a creative this is not a criticism but I think he listened to his players grumble you know he sat down with his players and again he relates to artists and athletes and stars just go look at the history and when he was doing the spear for two years he was disengaged from the team and they got very patient and very pragmatic and very basketbally and very villainova-ish just went right up and that’s Tibs and so you get rid of Tibs it’s not the same culture it’s not the same team you still have the Villanova guys but it won’t feel the same so it just it just feels like James and I don’t I almost you know he he reminds me a little bit of Jim Ers in that Ers would rather sit with his guitar and and hang out with Dylan uh outside of football more than anything else and I think James Dolan’s a little bit of that and I I think he’s an emotional guy he’s an artist he relates to artists and back listens to his stars and he didn’t have a plan and I I think it’s a big big mistake um it this by the way this is what every Nick fan dreaded is that when he came back from the sphere he would get hands on and there various reports on who has their fingerprints on this but they’re not getting rid of Tibs he just signed a new deal without Dolan um you know acquiescing to a suggestion or making the move himself so in the end this is what the Knicks man this this league’s crazy owners in the NFL and the NBA you know that that all owners now Jason are billionaires it was 10 years ago they weren’t they may they were worth 600 million or 800 million they wouldn’t blow out staffs they didn’t want to write a 46 million check that is a rounding error now to these owners and they’re all I see it in the NFL all the time guys will just blow out staffs david Ter write a 60 $80 million check the donors didn’t want to do that 8 10 12 years ago they do now so I I don’t know who they’re going to land they they I mean they’ve been turned down by seven coaches all the good ones finch and Duka and Jason Kid and they’re just getting turned down by everybody yeah matt Ishbia blew out of staff twice within two years of owning the team it’s completely ridiculous i uh you know it’s it’s fascinating because like I I tried to look at it in a very open-minded way because like I actually do think Jason K’s a better coach now than he gets credit for i a couple years ago I I wasn’t super high on him but he just like anybody else as a competitor has been doing it for a while now and he’s gotten pretty good at it like I looking at the Knicks for a second like I I agree with you in terms of the the the kind of topsyturvy unstable nature with which you look and you portray to people when you fire your coach in a situation like this but I also think Tibs left some meat on the bone with this Knicks team i thought they underachieved all season like right out the gates they underachieved he brought in all his He’s not a creative offensively he’s not the team got very predictable offensively sorry to interrupt this great video but please remember to like and subscribe thank you now back to the video i thought the major issue with this team schematically was spacing and it actually impacted both ends of the floor on offense the me what you’re mentioning in terms of creative offense like his what he did on offense in terms of his creativity the spacing for this team was extremely poor which made life very difficult but it had a trickle down effect in the sense that poor spacing also affects your transition defense like if you don’t have your guys situated in proper spaces on the floor then on misses and turnovers you don’t have guys in position to be back in transition defense and the Pacers annihilated them in transition in worse than ever in game six like embarrassing fashion in game six as Seakum and everyone else was just getting run out layup after run out dunk after runout layup so like I did think there was like a defensible case with to move on from Tibs to more of a a tactician i actually see Jason Kidd as a solid option in the sense that he was a master of modern four out spacing with Luca when he was there which actually I think is a really natural fit with Brunson and Brunson co played for kid before so there’s like some natural stuff there and then he did a good job with transition defense with the Mavs despite them not being super athletic so I give him credit for that would work the the thing there is it’s just unrealistic and if I’m Jason Kidd kid why would like I don’t actually see the Knicks as that great of a job like insane New York pressure the roster is really good but it’s not amazing it’s not like and oh by the way Male Bridges wants a new contract og’s getting paid brunson’s getting paid like the Mitchell Robinson these guys are getting paid like that Dallas thing Lively’s not getting paid cooper Flag won’t get paid i don’t know if uh uh Max Christie doesn’t cost much ad’s getting paid but you get 24 and 11 like I look at Dallas and I’m like I get excellence when they’re healthy and I get an incredible top end with Lively and Flag i know what the Knicks are and there’s a ceiling and I see it all the time yeah exactly like I I don’t see it as being the kind of job that Jason Kid would be willing to basically sabotage his situation and force his way there and then like the other names I saw I didn’t even particularly like like like Eime Udoka is a motivator he that’s like his primary role i don’t think that’s a specific need for the Knicks like I think the specific thing the Knicks need is just someone to come in and take them to the next level in terms of their offensive organization and their spacing which will lead to them having a bunch of additional benefits in transition defense i understand there’s a hesitancy to call a guy like Mike Malone and the reason why is because he has a reputation for being a hard ass and Tibs was kind of a hard ass and like I don’t think they want to go down that route again but there’s like hard ass and then there’s Tibs like Mike Malone leaned on his starters big minutes but still not even close to what Tibs did and one of the things I’ll say about Mike Malone he was an excellent defense and spacing coach he made a championship defense out of non- championship defensive talent and they were always consistently one of the best floor spacing teams in the league and they were very good and again we can we got to at least acknowledge Joic was there so Joic makes it a lot easier obviously but he specifically was very good at making spacing opportunities out of non-spacers guys like Aaron Gordon guys like Christian Brown guys like Bruce Brown over the years guys like uh Russell Westbrook even so like fitting a guy like Josh Hart Mitchell Robinson some of these non-shooting types of players even Male Bridges who has struggled a lot as a shooter in this postseason run like I actually think Mike Malone is a really good fit for this Knicks team i think he’s a completely reasonable option that doesn’t involve you doing something insane like calling around the league cuz here’s what gets crazy let’s say you call the Mavs and they’re like “Okay sure let’s talk about Jason Kid what are you going to offer us we already acknowledge this is not a championship roster so you’re going to give up assets for a coach you need players you need talent in there.” So like specifically defensive talent your front court so I don’t really understand what the endgame is here yeah i I just I I am on the short list of people that think Dallas is going to be really good really fast um I I think Flag and Lively are you know they’re Duke guys they’re going to be quick learners they play at the highest level of competition collegiately i think one’s going to be one’s 21 or 22 he’s going to be a rim protector for the next decade so Cooper Flag can be out in transition won’t have to worry about being down low and getting jammed up which has always been what LeBron loves he doesn’t want to be messed up in that junk he wants to you know he wants that ball out and up the court so uh and I I just you know PJ Washington Christy if Kyrie comes back I’m not sure what they’re going to do with him ad I I would forget the taxes forget everything else i would not leave Dallas i think Dallas is a good job the the the situation that’s fascinating to me is Houston because I think I think right now San Antonio is about ready to pop um so I like San Antonio and they could get Giannis and I think OKC is set and I think Houston’s going to be in that group of three young teams a little lost because Jaylen Green Thompson’s excellent shenon’s excellent but there’s just a lot of athleticism that’s not very good in a halfcourt game and I think I think OKC has popped san Antonio’s going to pop and I so I I could I if I’m if I’m Adoka I I would consider the job i think Houston’s one of those that the national media we hover in we drop in we go oh look at Houston i I didn’t like what I saw i’ll be honest and I I think you can push them around i don’t think they have a lot of halfcourt possessions that are just sort of lost you don’t get good looks they look a little disorganized i but but Jason kid to me the next five years in Dallas are going to be fascinating with just this trajectory that goes through the roof the roster is weird because it’s kind of imbalanced in the sense that they just have an absurd amount of front court talent like you you don’t need Lively Gaffford Anthony Davis PJ Washington and Cooper Flag like that’s five starting caliber players that all play the four or the five so like I I I do see an imbalance there but there’s an insane amount of talent and I actually go the other way there which is like they can afford to go into training camp and just bring all these guys in and start playing and basically look around the league and be like “Who’s going to throw us the Godfather offer for PJ Washington for uh Daniel Gaffford for an Anthony Davis?” Like you could argue that AD is going to be the target that someone goes after like if cuz AD’s hurt now so he’s got that classic everyone’s down on him they think he’s old they think he’s beat up ad comes out of training camp looking like he’s in great shape motivated kicks everybody’s butt for a couple of months he instantly becomes like a dude you could flip for the an enormous mountain of assets and so I I I look at I look at Dallas as a very very healthy situation moving forward it’s not the same Luca Donic were right on the doorstep of the title but they do have a lot of big picture potential [Music]
Colin Cowherd and Jason Timpf predict who will become the next head coach of the New York Knicks after the team fired Tom Thibodeau for failing to lead Jalen Brunson, Karl-Anthony Towns, and NY to the NBA Finals over the Indiana Pacers. Where do Michael Malone, Mike Budenholzer, Taylor Jenkins, Sam Cassell, and Jason Kidd rank among the choices?
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24 Comments
Jason should become an assistant coach on an NBA team coach by a demonstrably effective Coach His theoretical understanding is very impressive. The question is can he translate this knowledge into practice.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. You clearly did not watch any Knick basketball.
Jason's the best.
people write off reggie miller.. that would be insane
The Knicks did not think this thing through. Now they are scrambling to un-f this situation.
I like that Jason is getting ready for Halloween as Kenny Powers.
Colin is making up reality as he goes and by the end convinces himself it’s truth. Amazing stuff
Oh and theyre not being turned down by the coach but of course, reality doesn’t matter to Colin
Leon Rose made the final decision to let Thibs go. No wrong again it was not James Dolan.
Talking about AD as a big trade asset for the Mavs is so funny. Like do you think they could pair him with a first round pick for a 26 year old superstar?!
Brunson's getting paid? He's on one of the best contracts in the league. What are you talking about!?
99 on the black by Colin on James Dolan
Thank you Jason for pointing out real valid “basketball” reasons Thibs deserved to be fired. Colin with the typical “same old knicks” take the media likes to run with. Just an idiot.
Despite his history of firing coaches as a knee jerk reaction, I don’t believe James Dolan wanted Thibs fired. I’m sure he was aware of it.
I think World Wide Wes spearheaded the firing of Thibs. I think Leon Rose made the decision based on Wes’ assessment. William Wesley was renown for blaring Concrete State of Mind on his first day at the job. He was hyped as “the Dione Warwick of the NBA, connection to the stars.” Has he brought any “stars” to the Knicks? Kinda. Brunson wasn’t his call. That was Rose.
However what two former sports agents did not take into account, the ripple effect it had across the NBA.
There’s no way, any established coach worth his salt would take the Knicks head coaching job after his predecessor was fired for back 2 back 50 win seasons, deepest playoff run in 25 yrs. On top of that, the owner expects this roster to go further than they did under Thibs. The new coach has no say in this roster. Former assistant Johnnie Bryant is the most logical choice. Dolan has had enough of unproven head coaches (see Fizdale). I think Mike Brown is gonna be the next Knicks coach.
Didn't Colin pick Houston over Golden State in round one? LOL
So the Knicks don’t have a championship roster? A week ago, Indiana was supposed to loose in 5. They’re winning 2-1. I guess they don’t have a championship roster either.
Cmon with these narratives…lame and lazy !!!!!
Colin this isn’t on TV, we don’t want this kind of theatre takes. Take basketball!
Look thibs had to go he barley paid his bench the entire tenure. You do not win championships that way. Play the whole team he is stubborn. He has to go
Rick Brunson is best candidate
Knicks for clicks! The media just can't leave my Knicks alone. We're talked about more than the NBA Finals…
Stan Van Gundy to the rescue.
So much intellectually dishonest discourse from folks on this topic. I’m really disappointed.
This dude Jason just be chatting for real
Dolan hasn’t been living in Vegas Colin, he’s at every single Knicks game sitting right by the bench. The sphere talk is silly.