Reacting to Desmond Bane trade from Memphis Grizzlies to Orlando Magic | Jason x Colin Cowherd
what’s up guys thanks as always for supporting the show it would mean a lot to me if you would take a second to scroll down and hit that subscribe button so you don’t miss any more of our videos also make sure you follow us all over social media so you don’t miss any of our content or show announcements i think Orlando looked at Indiana and thought why not us i mean I mean they they don’t have a guy that scores over 20 bane Carol could be first team all NBA next year so I think when I watch Indiana I think they’re they’re they’re encouraging they’ve got young ascending players they’ve kind of meshed together in the East and you’re like okay it was one thing when Boston was winning with a stacked roster indiana why can’t I think I said it during the Boston Orlando series I’m like man they’re about a year away from being really really good so I think Indiana is one of those teams that may not make it back um and it may just be lightning in a bottle i really like him a lot but I think OKC is historically special defensively and we’re seeing it yeah the the East to me feels wide open in a different way where I agree with you like the Boston was like this clear number one out east but then you had this like group of three four teams that you knew were going to be in the mix you know Milwaukee New York that that was the mix that we knew was going to be at the top but now with Boston kind of dropping out of that group it does feel wide open like Cleveland is very good but everyone knows they’re beatable like the uh the Bucks will be there if Giannis is still there but like we know that they’re beatable the Knicks we know that they have their flaws and their issues they have a front court that you can attack defensively and I think what the Pacers have demonstrated in a lot of ways is that you can you know outkick your coverage so to speak in terms of the talent on your roster when there is a great deal of one the the coaching that that maximizes the talent but the second piece is from a general management perspective like actual complimentary pieces that fit and accentuate each other and that to me is what I look at with the Desmond Bane trade cuz like your initial reaction when you see that sort of thing is to go four first round picks unprotected like my goodness that’s a steep paycheck and like I get that on the surface and ultimately whether or not that ends up being worthwhile will be whether or not this team has success and if they have success they make the finals no one’s going to care about those four first round picks it’s about whether or not this pays off and Desmond Bane is a perfectly complimentary player to what those two guys do he is a he is one of the best jump shooters in the NBA among 58 players this year to attempt at least 500 jumpers he ranked 12th in efficiency by the way and the Magic couldn’t shoot last year that’s what they could do they couldn’t shoot they couldn’t shoot by the way you want to know who was number one on that list kevin Durant kevin Durant is still the best jump shooter in the NBA i thought that was interesting when I was digging in digging into the data but he specifically shot 60% from the field on shot attempts coming off of offball screens so when he comes running off of action off the ball he knocks it down at an extremely high rate he shot 52% on threes specifically coming off of offball screens the the Magic could not create space for Paulo and Fron that was the problem the Desmond Bane in Memphis they so desperately needed him to hit shots cuz he was their secondary shot creator it was a little bit too much for him but in this setting next to Fron next to Paulo it’s more important for him to be able to create openings for them his ability to shoot on the move shoe it out of screens shoot off the dribble specifically in the context of Fran and Paulo you’re going to get a it’s a force multiplier rather than a diminishing return and that really is the key like when I’m looking at talent it’s like they could have gone and got Bradley Beal and maybe that’s a player that you think is a a a maybe a higher regarded player in the league or something like that desmond Bane’s talent fits perfectly with those guys in a wideopen conference and that’s a huge big strong team that should be able to cause a lot of damage with their physicality and the last thing I’ll say about it Colin Desmond’s not the best defender in the world but he’s pretty solid jaylen Suggs is the best guard defender in the world and so he will never have to guard the best guard on the other team he’s going to be in favorable matchups he’s going to be surrounded by physicality his skill set perfectly matches what Fran and Paulo do i think it was a type of swing that could legitimately put them in the finals and Colin you’re the one who’s always preaching this on your show yes it was expensive so was Kawawaii for the Raptors in 2019 at a certain point you got to push your chips in the middle if you want to try to win well and I again I think Orlando looks at it and thinks listen Bane’s like 25 or 26 years old it’s like Oklahoma City you don’t have this aged star you don’t have this one gigantic paycheck it’s like everybody’s pulling in the same direction like they bring in Hartinstein he’s a starter but like kind of a role player but great energy and everybody welcomes him in like everybody that like Bane I was watching the videos today when the when he got to Orlando the guys were like it’s just like when he’s one of the guys he’s a young guy who by the way because he was in Memphis behind John Morant probably didn’t get appreciated a lot or a lot of attention and Bane was the more mature player the more consistent player the more available player and the better shooter but John Morant’s great for highlights so Bane gets overlooked but not by smart GM so Bane’s probably like “Okay now I get into a a more you know this is I mean Suggs is a Gonzaga guy Ben Carro a Duke guy Vagner’s Michigan guy.” Like these are these are grown-ups they’re ready to play and I thought I think we talked about this in the Boston series it was like two or three times you and I were like “Why the hell is this series so competitive like like Orlando can’t shoot boston takes the most this should we should have some blowouts and we didn’t the games were really competitive.” We felt that way about the Knicks and the Pistons too it’s like what’s God Kate Cunningham’s really graduated to another class and so I I liked it and I also just aggressive wins go get KD and Golden State the Lakers you know trade for Gasol trade for Shaq take big swings trade for AD absolutely uh uh Porzingis and Drew Holiday Boston like you have to take swings in this league because you’re not going to be able to bank these stars you’re not going to have the Heedles you’re not going to have KD to the Warriors so what you’re going to do is can you get a group of really good B+ A minus guys that all fit and Orlando fits bane literally fits perfectly with a team yeah it’d be better if it was two first not four but those are going to be low first round picks anyway so I can live with it a and there’s like this the splitting the difference two timelines approach comes with its own shortcomings like obviously Golden State was very fortunate on the strength of Steph to win in 2022 but they’ve been paying the price for not cashing in on some of their assets over the course of the of the last few years i feel like Dallas is kind of staring down the barrel of a similar type of situation like you got to capitalize on the value that AD brings to the table if you want to have sustained success around Cooper Flag and like I I just look at it as I look at it as just an aggressive move that fits perfectly desmond Bane has grown a lot too as a passer coming off of screening actions and I look at that as something like a simple dynamic in the NBA that can cause all sorts of problems is if you can run a two-man game where they don’t want to switch and the problem is is when Fron and Paulo are together they get guarded by similar players big strong forwards and with Jaylen Suggs he never shot the ball well enough for teams to really account for him in those actions if you as Desmond Bane as one of the best shooters in the league come flying off of a screen with Paulo you have no choice but to either switch or to show in which case Paulo will get better matchups he’ll get more smalls to attack he’ll get more openings to attack i think it’s just a really really smart fit
Jason and Colin react to the Memphis Grizzlies trading Desmond Bane to the Orlando Magic, the ripple effects for Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner, and whether it makes them contenders in the Eastern Conference.
Follow Jason Timpf on social:
Tweets by _JasonLT
https://www.instagram.com/jtimpf15/
Follow us on social media:
https://www.instagram.com/hoopstonight/
https://x.com/hoopstonite
https://www.facebook.com/hoopstonight/
@hoopstonightjasontimpf
Learn more about the Volume:
https://www.thevolume.com
GAMBLING PROBLEM? CALL 1-800-GAMBLER, (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org (MA). Call 877-8-HOPENY/text HOPENY (467369) (NY).
Please Gamble Responsibly. 888-789-7777/visit ccpg.org (CT), or visit www.mdgamblinghelp.org (MD).
21+ and present in most states. (18+ DC/KY/NH/WY). Void in ONT/OR/NH. Eligibility restrictions apply. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS).1 per new customer. $5+ first-time bet req. Max. $150 issued as non-withdrawable Bonus Bets that expire in 7 days (168 hours). Stake removed from payout. Terms: sportsbook.draftkings.com/promos. Ends 3/16/25 at 11:59 PM ET. Sponsored by DK.
#nba #nbaplayoffs #nbafinals #nbahighlights #nbabasketball #basketball #sports #reaction #desmondbane #orlando #orlandomagic #grizzlies #memphis #memphisgrizzlies #jamorant #trade
13 Comments
First!
Bane was the most consistent, HEALTHY player Memphis had last couple years . 🤷🏽♂️
Orlando had to give extra picks to get rid of bad contracts with KCP and Cole Anthony.
Yeah, our first game against the pacers we beat them by 30 points. It should of us there. But congrats to them.
Awesome fit. Now trade Isaac for another shooter.
Do you think KCP will be better next season though i think he will
Toronto were a 60 win team and a healthy kawhi is an all time great player probably top 10 if he was healthy
People don’t realize how much of an upgrade over kcp
Bane must be glad to not have to rely on a childish starplayer anymore
Bane can’t get his shot off against good defensive teams unless someone is being doubled. ie: Watched Bane 3x this year against OKC. He couldn’t even dribble the ball up the court or get his shot off. Not worth the $200M. Magic got fleeced. Magic need a real point guard and an offensive system that takes advantage of the talent.
I understood the move when I saw the news. Tatum out all year, Cleveland isn’t proven, Knicks have no sense of direction and although Indiana is currently in the finals, Palo is an all NBA level player and their defense is already great.
The process they paid is a lot but I don’t think they’ll have a better opportunity than now to get to the finals. Magic’s only issue was offense, they competed with Boston, and Bane can help unlock their offense.
Considering that vast majority of NBA starters are lottery picks, to get one definite high end starter for one, maybe two lottery picks that could become starters makes sense for both sides. The other picks make taking on KCP's contract barrable. Memphis knew they needed retooling, and being able to take that many swings should grant them at least a starter and multiple complimentary pieces. It could turn out better, it could turn out worse. Orlando got a known entity and got rid of a bad contract in exchange for a lot of unknowns.
I love how everyone the first day said how bad it was, now everyone is shifting their opinion with context. Not to mention, KCP’s contract was terrible.