What are the Boston Celtics cooking?

What are the Boston Celtics cooking?

it has been a fascinating thing to watch happen in the NBA How teams and fan bases want to win the summer Um the Celtics have made two trades in the last two days You want to know when the last time was the Heat made a summer offseason trade Kyle Lowry Oh that was a time and but this is the thing right this is winning the off season is something that now matters for front offices And we can say this right at least the last two championships Maybe you feel like you could say this about all championships but at least the last two championships are monuments to architecture Like what the Celtics did two years ago that they just undid Like that that is masterwork right there to get under the cap while Porzingis and Holiday become your fourth and fifth best player cuz Derek White ascends to your third and all of a sudden you can get rid of them And I mean I want to get your thoughts on what they got back because I did not think that they had the kinds of assets in those two people trying to get under the cap that would bring them back you know a scorer and some value I thought they would just have to dump to get out from under the cap You don’t think what they did was dump to get out of the cap uh they did but they got stuff back I mean they got decent pieces nice pieces I mean they got a they got a scorer They got someone who can score when Portland doesn’t have like Portland has redundancy of skill set there Are these decent or nice pieces i need to know you guys like I got two answers Listen the the man giving you the analysis when Drew Holiday went to Boston called him a waterlogged corpse That that’s not what I said but it’s all right I mean like if if you’re asking for my analysis and then undercutting it with a mockery of what corpse is strong that’s wrong to say I mean yeah it’s not what I said but you I thought you said corpse I thought you attached corpse to Drew Holiday I heard that’s what you said That’s not That’s not what I said And I’m not going to relitigate a show from two years ago where Can you guys find the sound corpse i I said I sent the sound to you guys after you kept saying I said corpse about it as far as like oh Boston got a corpse That’s not what I said That’s not what I said But I’m sure if you can dig up the sound that I sent two years ago after I wanted you guys to cease and desist that you’ll know But to the point I’m saying Anthony Simons nice young player one year left on his deal good scoreer He’s got flaws he’s got warts But again in terms of what they got out of which is Drew Holidayiday who has long-term money on his on the books and deteriorating not only in health but in play That’s a nice little swap Porzingis for George Nyang That is a massive a massive take Okay Yes agreed Although uh George Nyang is one of my favorite players because he’s shaped like me Uh I’ve loved him since Iowa State But just so that you know the Celtics saved $180 million in tax penalties And whether you agree with it or not in doing so they got three second round picks They got a veteran who’s had a couple of playoff runs and they got a potential 20 point scorer So I I I think we can agree my previous point We’ll get to the sound that mean wants us to eradicate forever in a second But I I do think we can agree if not all championships being always architecturebased because sometimes you just have a star and it doesn’t matter how much you build around them Uh we can say the last two are celebrations of front office can we not well last year well this year’s championship it’s more of a long-term celebration of front office To me that’s for an office work is building over time and adding and curating and chiseling Right The big blockbuster deal rarely not never but rarely turns into an immediate championship The Celtics swung big two two summers ago by sending Marcus Smart who was a big part of their culture Not an easy trade to make That one is like yes that swinging for the fences They went out and got Porzingis and it worked magically for them the Thunder Yes Acquiring uh Alex Caruso Huge Not only for his contributions on the floor but also because he taught them how to pop bottles of champagne Don’t know if you guys know that one I have to show you guys I have to show you guys some of the video here on guys on the Thunder who have never had a drink and guys on the Thunder who had too many drinks Uh we can check in actually with them now as soon as you finish your point because Chad Holgrren was slurring through the parade uh SGAA look drunk on GMA and uh and Jaylen Williams says uh he’s about to go drinking even though he’s never had a drink The the Thunder are an example of the kind of patient front office work that nobody wants to no nobody really wants This thing started six years ago right and they tore it down and they use their cap space to accumulate and accumulate and accumulate and pick right and developed and make tweaks here and there and it culminates with we’re sign we have the cap space to sign Isaiah Hartinstein because we think he fits what we need We can go out and get Alex Caruso because we can’t have too many of these young guys who’ve never done anything before So Josh Giddy goes Alex Russo comes in and now you get to a place where you win a championship and even then we see how small the margins are They it could have gone wrong several times They were ready to lose that championship Oddball will have some draft coverage for you here if you want some of that good stuff We will have uh uh drunken players in a second But uh before I do that Theo Epstein represents in the history of Boston the greatest architect that there has been in sports by reputation I can’t believe I’m saying this but Brad Stevens would appear to be a better executive than he was a coach And that’s no knock on him as a coach but the the Marcus Smart trade is a very difficult trade to make to realize that Tatum and Brown needed to have a team that that Marcus Smart didn’t want to give to them And then to get two players like that in Holiday and Porzingis there were perfect compliments Perfect compliments because there are very few guys willing to do the things Drew Holiday does as a third or fourth option and Porzingis stretched the floor ridiculously but also allowed for the growth of Derek White in there But the idea that that champion is no more that quickly Still surprising to me Like still no but it’s still surprising to me Why would it not be surprising to me the Celtics seem like they were only on the ascent It seems like if Tatum doesn’t get hurt they’re going to go into the repeated tax They’re going to go into the luxury tax Like it felt like it was kind of turnurning that way No it’s more that I don’t know that they would have ever gone into any of that because of the new ownership and wanting to get under that luxury tax but they would have been right back in that conversation at least this year and still been around the championship It feels like everything fell apart And now not only are they making moves just based off the future because they know next season doesn’t really matter but they were willing to get that much worse because they want to build it back up around Tatum once he is healthy They were going to make hard decisions either way The only thing the injury did was to give them the out of oh no no we need to make hard decisions But they like somebody not Brown not Tatum right and probably not Derek White but there were going to be people gone So you think they’re done wait but no Shams is saying that Jaylen and Derek White they’re getting calls all over the place that the Celtics are getting the calls and I don’t think they’re done You think they’re done done in what sense i either way do Do you think that they’re done with moves or done being able to do something for this year because I think they go right back to playing for the championship this year even though Tatum’s going to miss most of the year They’re what they’re one more move away from getting under the tax They’re in the repeater tax And in order to get out of the repeater tax you’ve got to be out of it three out of five times right so uh excuse me two times in in five years They’ve been in the repeater tax three times now So they have a mandate to get under that thing one more time So one more deal Is it Sam Hower is it Derek White i don’t think it’s going to be Jaylen Brown I don’t think it’s going to be Derek White Of course they’re getting calls and you got to listen because you’re in a in a position Are they done forever no I think you know a year from now they’ll be back to reload in the summer of Why would you trade Derek White because he makes $28 million next year 30.3 the year after that 32.5 the year after that and he’s got a player option of 35 the year after that That’s why you trade It’s not cuz oh I don’t like him anymore he’s no good It’s this is a lot of money Now if we’re at the peak of competing for a championship I’ll pay it right that’s why they paid all those guys But once you get to a place where we’re like we’re not quite at the peak of competing a championship it’s really hard for me to convince ownership hey let’s just keep throwing money at this thing that’s not going to pay for itself I think they’re going to trade Derrick White I think they’re going to trade Derrick White because you see what Orlando just got for Desmond Bane Boston knows they’re not a contender this year if they can get a hall for Derrick White which I think they probably could then in a year from now you’re you’re you’re you’re going to do it again Like you’re building your championship team around Tatum and Brown and now you have all of these assets next off season to play with I I think they’re going to trade Derrick White The question is who has the assets to go get a Derrick White who has what they what Desmond Bane went for who has that left out there oklahoma City has everything Uh Brooklyn’s got a ton of picks Brooklyn’s got like five in the first round five in the first round and they don’t know what what to do with them Build their centerpiece around Derrick White for the Brooklyn Nets I mean look you build your centerpiece around Desmond Bane if you’re the Orlando Do you believe Derek White I don’t believe Derek White’s a number one He look he’s a lot better player than any of us thought he was but he was at least that good because he played with those two other guys Yes he’s Let’s not get caught up Yes he’s not a centerpiece of a team I’m just trying to be funny because Desmond Bane went for eight billion picks But to answer your question a Sam Hower deal gets him under So so they don’t have to get the D You say eight million picks a Go bear cost you five now A bridges cost you five now A a Bane cost you five now Like that when when when Yes But let me let me stop you there because Go cost you five What what did Gobear done in his career he was like a three-time defensive player of the year when when that happened right the Bridges deal is the only example of like hey this guy who’s never had any sort of accolade we’re going to give a bazillion picks for him Why well because he’s best friends with my best player Like that that was that was their their thinking Like the power of friendship of course But that’s the rate now That’s not the rate That’s the rate if you’re dealing with Bane just Bane just is is a he just is a catch and shoot three shooter and he just went for five picks That’s the rate That’s the rate if you’re dealing with a team that is desperate that Kevin Durant went for one pick What are we talking about bane has never been an allstar Like you just said Bridges doesn’t have accolades Neither does Bane That’s the way that’s the way I see it I mean is that I I don’t think it’s what that guy is worth I think it’s about what that guy is worth to the team that’s trading for him Like Minnesota felt okay Gobear is not worth five picks but to us he is because we think he’s the missing piece for a championship Muel Bridges he’s not worth five picks but to us we think it makes us championship Okay so this was what Mike was doing yesterday when he was talking about the Heat missing on Anunni and on and and Seakum They weren’t missing pieces either right because they didn’t end up being champions Like Seakum got very close and was important Aninobi has been very important but don’t they don’t get to be missing pieces because no the Heat have been as far as the Pacers just got But that’s like saying the Seakum trade was a failure for I’m not saying it’s a failure Mike Ryan’s criticizing them for every guy they have not gotten And what I’m saying is if they gotten Seakkum they still wouldn’t be a champion and he’d still be criticizing them If they got Nanobbi they still wouldn’t be a champion and he’d still be criticizing them So criticism is criticizing them All right you’re obviously gonna play that back I mean let’s play back before we do that Let’s play back Amin’s clip here where this was the analysis He was mad at us He had just gotten home on a flight He was upset Can you explain to us what context this needs as you deny that your analysis was that he was a corpse that wasn’t the from the day that I talked to you guys on the phone I was on in the in the I have a clip It’s audio Okay Drew Holidayiday’s corp Drew Holiday’s corp Oh okay Drew Holidayiday’s corpse Oh it’s amazing how it’s just like three words and there’s nothing around that word So you did not say Drew Holiday’s corpse Wow You think that was edited it could have been like “What are you wearing as Halloween costume this year?” And he said Drew Holidayiday’s corpse What was the context that could have been the context It probably was That’s right It wasn’t water He also didn’t call Drew Holiday a corpse Are there levels to a corpse of Drew Holiday which is a very different

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