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see menu for details there are futures for aaron judge possibly hitting 400 hitting 400 at the all-star break plus 600 oh wow to have a 400 batting average in the regular season plus 3800 to win the triple crown is only plus 145 i don’t think he’s going to hit 400 for the season i don’t either i i i that would be ridiculous yes ridiculous the odds couple live at 2 p.m on youtube at grind city media and the official grind city media app vernon show on youtube at grind city media and the official grind city media app now here’s your host chris vernon instead of waiting for the next big awesome it’s noon on guard city media.com chris vernon show welcome welcome welcome welcome welcome it is the thursday june 26th 2025 edition of the show today on the show it happened after spending the last few weeks talking about the nba draft we focused our attention on one prospect on the chris vernon show because of too many random instances that all added up and then last night the memphis grizzlies traded up to take said prospect we will get to the drafting of cedric coward in addition to that our old buddy david thorp coach thorp wrote an article for true hoop yesterday before any of this was relevant that we would be the team with cedric howard and he had an article that said he would take cedric howard number two in the nba draft behind cooper flag coach thorp is going to join us on the show today at 12:30 we will go through everything that took place last night it is a thursday it is a beautiful day it is hotter than hell but smile let’s do it turn it up instead of waiting for the next big thing to strike stop running your mouth get out of the house get yourself down and shake it yeah yeah yeah yeah hope everybody’s having a good day all right well last night we were all up here for a grind city media draft show in expectation of the grizzlies taking the 16th pick in the nba draft though we knew there was an opportunity and a thought that they might be very well trading up because that has been the mo of the front office here they have typically targeted a player and then they have done what it’s take uh done what it took to get up and get said player and last night indeed they did that and it was pandemonium up here because it was it’s destiny it was destiny what took place last night uh cedric coward not in town yet will join us on the show tomorrow of course a second round of the nba draft is going to be going on this evening before i get to anything i welcome john roser to the show john roser aka the cologne ranger the body spray band is in your sight johnny bag johnny bearcat the grim roser john asparagus johnny dear john lance he’s yogi roser he’s dr thunder hello john what up devin walker’s here he’s the microphone angler senor quasadilla mr math navajo the reporter the photographer he’s his he’s walker 93 ver i just got word he’s he’s limper yeah i’m i’m i’m good i stretched it out last night paul we good but uh i got i got word somebody’s texted me and they said that we’re going to do our interview with cedric coward tomorrow live from target did you hear hey i got the news they said we’re going to put it right in the middle of the se the the the health and good section we’re going to do the interview from target you know what’s so crazy is that a lot of people last night several reach out to me and they said “you have to find the guy from target.” and i don’t know how i could find this guy i i don’t know he’s out there somewhere target guy whoever this guy is so for those of you that are unaware this all started because we about a week and a half ago we come on on monday and everything has changed regarding our thoughts towards the nba draft we had done a cursory look at second rounders and see if there’s anybody in there that we liked and that was the extent of it because they traded marcus smart and along with marcus smart they traded their first round pick for this draft so this was going to be a draft that we weren’t going to be paying attention to nearly as intensely as in many years in the past and then that all changed when they traded desmond bane and it was like “oh god now we got now we got to now we got a crash course.” y and i said to roser it’s a quick refresher for everybody out there that does not know why we were going crazy last night because person who i think what happened was roser came on and as we are going through guys and we are trying to identify guys in the draft he came across an article that listed off wing players with 72 plus wingspans and then listed them off and we were sitting here in shock at all it was like whoa now like that’s a pretty unbelievable list and then he said that two players in this year’s draft that were projected to go qualify and he said cedric coward and at that moment on the show in the most authentic moment we could possibly have i said “oh i like i stopped him and i said “this is crazy two months ago i was in target and i was buying a box of basketball cards and a guy said to me as we’re small talking he’s like “hey verno.” and i was like “hey man.” he’s like “you just getting some cards?” and i was like “yeah.” and then he’s like “you know people are buying these cooper flag cards uh you know this box that’s got the cooper flags in it he’s like “if you get the autograph people are selling them for like $1,000 on ebay.” and i was like “what?” i was like “all right well i better get those.” and so then i as i’m buying the box of cards the guy says to me randomly you know everybody’s chasing these cooper flags but the best the best player out of this draft is going to be cedric howard and i was like who didn’t think about it again until roser lists off that he applies for this thing and so at that very moment in time it became very very real then he starts you know moving up these mocks then he’s in a bunch of the mock drafts going to the grizzlies then i tell the story on the ringer and it just becomes a thing it becomes a thing like oh this is the guy like it has to be the guy in target told me who the best player was i don’t know who this guy was i don’t know his basketball expertise but it doesn’t matter it doesn’t matter it’s pretty obvious at this point this is all lined up this is destiny and so then we get to yesterday and and then we as as as time went on we spent more time talking about cedric coward than any player in the draft just because of this weird thing that happened yep and this weird instance and then i came on the air and i told you guys i deep dove and fell in love i was like “oh my.” like the interviews the highlights i’m like “whoa.” now like you already told me there’s a crazy success rate on just this frame and ability now i listen to the kid talk and i’m like i’m in i am in and then we hear that he came to memphis on monday randomly then it becomes rather evident to me he ain’t making it to 16 and especially because after i watch all these interviews i’m like there is no way he’s making it past 15 like my nightmare is that 15’s going to be oklahoma city or 14 is uh the san antonio right he’s they’re not they’re not passing up on this character all right even if he can’t play they just want that guy you know um so their mo too so then we came on yesterday and said cedric coward you’re going to have to trade up like you’re going to have to jump some of these teams probably in order to get them especially because the thunder fans are starting to kind of bubble a little bit about how amazing he is you see some of those videos are coming out like thunder fans like oh my god we’re projected to get cedric coward he’s gonna be so great and then we picked we’re getting we’re gonna have two jaylen then we picked him and they’re like oh they want to [ __ ] on him now the worst is the worst is the poor portland guy yeah pull out the portland guy let’s play him this is a guy poor portland fan last night oh my goodness i’ve done this before too where you’re so excited and you’re talking it up and then you just get your heart ripped out of your chest it’s tough it is a tough spot oh my god oh my god yes yes oh my god oh my god cedric coward is a portland trailblazer oh my god we’ll let him talk true i i don’t want oh my god okay okay okay um so yeah the thunder window just closed um wendy you’re going to need to descend from the mountains because uh you got a new team to compete with in the west cedric coward 66 um he’s got the unique jaylen williams build in that he’s like 6’4 65 6’5 without shoes with a 7 foot2 wingspan so you combine that extremely low center of gravity of a shorter guy with the reach of a much larger guy he’s got like an 810 811 standing reach which uh for context is like they’re small nba fives with that standing reach but like he he’s power forwards sized but he’s his shot is butter um he reminds me a lot of phoenix male bridges um with his like really really controlled pull-up game and god just just watch this man shoot a ball with the length that he has and you’ll immediately buy in plays his tail off on defense um 39 inch vert as you see here on the screen at the combine but let me take you back a little bit because i’m hyperventilating because i can’t believe this actually came true oh god thank you drew i’ve got really bad news no no no god no god no i’m sorry he’s a grizzly i hate to do it to you i really didn’t want to kill a man on live on live twitter i’m sorry [ __ ] i’m about to pass out oh no oh man i am broken i saw it before they made the pick too i’m broken and you saw it before they made the pick is that why you didn’t say anything uh well i didn’t say am i am i just a you let that man cook bro that’s a bad friend by the way bro you let me cook like that knowing damn well i’m going to be tried to stop he tried to stop him at the beginning poor guy man but look i mean so the crazy thing is obviously the level of exultation that we had last night over all of this was so because what are the chances what are the chances that we spend that much time just talking about like he was he could have gone anywhere and we also didn’t like that could have been honestly it could have been colin murray boils it could have been malak or malak it could have been noah asge it could have been carter bryant it could have been anybody that a guy in target told me and then i deep dove and then we fell in love and then we wanted him yep target guy target guy i need you to pop out we don’t have if if we you didn’t see the celebration yesterday when it happened live our celebration was last night last night we had a freaking party you hurt your knee yeah i hit my knee on the desk and you know what you know what’s crazy i caught the holy ghost in here bro what is this what is this bone right here on the end of your wrist i don’t know what that is i guess your wrist bone maybe your wristbone is crazy that’s your wrist wristbone is crazy maybe that’s what it is where your wrist bone when i start banging on the table whatever yeah i hurt my wristbone that’s we all got injured yesterday we all got hurt yesterday bro i’m catching the holy ghost with bk roser i don’t know what ros’s doing i i yeah i don’t know what i’m doing either i moved the chair i but i almost pushed it down or i don’t know yeah because honestly like beyond be look we’re excited for cedric coward there’s no way around that but then i found out this man the first thing he’s going to do is pay his tides nothing more memphis loves than a guy that’s going to pay his t on his first contract he said his favorite food is chicken wings yeah and he loves j.cole shout out to my dog yeah i knew you’d love that yeah yeah so we and juice the god he loves juice the god here look slam magazine grabs all these uh grabs all these prospects so you can at least hear some of his opinions on things obviously we’re going to get a lot of his opinions on things when he joins us tomorrow on the show but uh slam magazine grabs all the prospects at the draft last night so you can hear some of his thoughts on they do like a rapid fire deal with him i don’t know if you guys have seen this one yet here was last night slam magazine grabbed him best nba player of all time kobe bryant best wnba player of all time lisa leslie best basketball team of all time the lakers best defender of all time dennis rodman best coach of all time phil jackson best basketball sneaker of all time kobe’s which one fives or sixes what’s your go-to pregame hype song i’ve been listening to all facts by juice to god and i mix in luther vandross never too much what’s the best basketball movie of all time he got game who’s winning the 2026 nba finals hopefully whatever team i’m on who’s winning in the 2025 wnba finals it’s hard to count out the liberty man who’s got the best slam cover any of them really i like them all who’s the most stylish player in the nba shay what’s the best court in new york city msg go ahead introduce yourself i’m cedric coward i’m from fresno california there you go fresno california represent he’s a kobe guy for sure and i’ll tell you this i pulled up that song he said he listened to the pregame i mean that is i mean he needs to pay his ties to that in the pregame because that thing is rancid the ying and the yang of dad and luther andros is crazy you ain’t playing that one in front of your kids that ain’t that that’s that’s a crazy roller coaster bro it’s one of those songs there’s there’s no chance there’s a clean version it can’t be no there’s not it’s just it’s just this but hey whatever guesses you guesses you up brother we love it bro hey look he’s 23 too bro i love that part that part i love that he’s 23 he’s 21 thought i thought he was he’s 21 isn’t he was i tweaking i is he 23 is he 23 i think he’s 23 i might be wrong oh he’s 21 2003 yeah he is he’s 21 21 21 that’s an older kid though right he ain’t one of those 19 like you know what i’m saying so it’s well also his story i mean obviously gary talked about it on the matt orlander 5,000word piece that they did i mean just unbelievable story like honestly it’s never happened before truly never happened before he was division three and he was playing at willatt in oregon i believe and you know there’s all these sliding door moments in anybody’s life and at one point in the article that i thought was so fascinating matt norlander writes in the article like what would have happened if that didn’t happen and there’s a bunch of these that took place right wasn’t a big aaou kid didn’t get recruited by division one all this kind of a zero star recruit all that stuff goes and plays at this school in oregon because he is he cares about the academics honestly he went to the school for the academics team wasn’t any good uh division three school and one night at a hotel you know we talk about all the time and obviously you know we’ve become friends with james kaine who is a assistant at dayton who was once an assistant at murray state who by chance was walking out to a vending machine at a chandler parsons basketball camp and all of the awesome players are in one gym and he goes to grab doritos in a vending machine and looks in the auxiliary gym and sees john morant and the story of his life literally changes right this guy was just he was starving he wanted a bag of doritos and what if he doesn’t what what if he doesn’t go to the vending machine and then doesn’t look in the gym and what crazy story on this one cedric howard plays for this nothing team uh as norlander tells it in the story they are somewhere getting ready for a game or whatever and the eastern washington coach is flipping around on tv and they are playing like the same way we would play christian brothers memphis would play christian brothers same kind of deal it’s a big-time school playing against willilamett like to get ready for the season the they’re killing them the the division one team is they’re killing them it’s one of the northeast teams maybe is portland or somebody like that right they’re killing them but he leaves it on the channel because he went to a division three school in the same division as will m it’s the only reason he’s watching the game and as he’s watching the game he’s like “who the hell is that?” cuz goes off in the game mhm next thing you know they keep up with it he ends up at western washington then he ends up at washington state then he ends up at right he’s going to duke but instead he went to the combine and just blew everybody away right and you listen to the kid talk you see the interviews you understand how this is exactly the type of individual there’s a clip that we had from the show a week ago where i said i’d deep dove and i watched his interviews and i was like “oh my god like you got to be kidding me with this kid.” and so the story is just absolutely incredible he didn’t make his varsity team until his junior year of high school like that it’s just it’s all of this you know and i do think that there is so much of memphis that is going to fall in love with him and the story much like they did jaylen wells because it’s like bro you were given nothing no everything about you getting to this moment is you working because there were no advantages there’s no advantages if he didn’t even start at eastern washington when he went there i mean you think about the culture of basketball now with aaou and with going places and nil he didn’t take a and also got no money to transfer mhm zero like it’s just it’s just a it’s a million to one shot that this stuff happens like all of it and then you add it up and it’s like and then you’ve got the grizzlies trading up to get you so we do need to talk about what they traded so one of the things we talked about was in the bane trade it’s the acquisition of assets and what do you want to use those assets for right and if you have a conviction about this player and you think he can be a big part of your franchise for a long time if you’re taking a swing and you believe like that he’s going to be a starting level outstanding nba player yeah and at worst a role player right yeah i hope it’s different than the zire thing right and the jake thing all right so here’s what i’m gonna say about this and the david rody thing this is why this one is radically different than the zire williams thing and i think that’s something they probably learned from this is what i guess i don’t know i’ve never talked to him about it but just from being around and for so many years and understanding the way this goes the mistake on the zire williams thing is a mistake that i do not think they will duplicate again and that is you didn’t know who was going to be there you made a guess at who was going to be there that trade was done prior to the draft so you acquired that pick and you thought the story goes they thought giddy or fran was going to be there and they weren’t and then it’s like oh okay well we’ll just take best prospect available right but the intention was and again if that’s from vagner it’s a different world yeah thousand different world and and again they missed the pick but i’m saying you can’t the reason this is different is because this is a very intentional we are trading up to get this player right that was a we’re making this trade and we’re going to have the 10th pick and one of the guys we really want is going to be there and look because i will just tell you it always stood out to me and this is not in retrospect you know roser you were with me bro that draft got done they talked up santi alama so much more than zire williams it was crazy and i was like huh mhm i always thought that that was not really what they wanted to take place with 10 i always believed that because difference is right yeah yeah santi they traded up they traded to get traded to get right at the end at the end of the first round right and those other guys like i just felt that way that draft i remember i’m like why are you like it was like every time i bring up zire they’d be like yeah yeah zire but santi alama i’m telling you this guy that we just got and i’ll be like you just took a player 10th right what are we doing huh so did we we didn’t try to get jake did we uh we try to get jake let’s see i don’t remember i don’t remember whether or not we just i’m just trying to distinguish this this pick cuz i i’m i’m excited about it of course but i’m also like cautiously optimistic about it cuz like well we traded for the pick that was rody but that was the melton trade yeah okay and that was stupid yeah so that that trade i don’t know how the so the rody win was that was mel that was melton for the 23rd pick that became rody yeah that was dumb yes it was that i agree what was that it was with minnesota because that pick was originally minnesota israel minnesota who jake was in the 2022 draft yeah i don’t remember but yeah i just want to make sure like like cuz like i i’m cautiously optimistic about all this like i’m excited about him being on our team because i know he gonna be he gonna be a good player but for me like i see that last night i like laid in bed and i was like “okay we got sid we got j we got jaylen wells but we still need a piece right there and we still need a center.” so that’s what i’m thinking about the next the next step with this situation more so than like well this is this is like look they made the bane trade they’ve already used so i didn’t really have a problem giving up you know look they did trade up for jake they gave up 22 they had 22 and 29 they traded 22 and 29 up for knight up to get 19 and then traded melton to get 23 so here’s what here here’s what i’ll say like there’s this whole like you gave up two first rounders no you gave up one like you got to pick 10th or last night or 11th last night instead of 16th right those are two you you used two of the four picks from the bane trade though you’ve used two of them now correct yeah but the other one is a 2028 yes right and you still have your own 2028 you still have your own so you’re and if orlando is good which people again you never know the way this stuff is going to go this is one but i also told you a you never know by look never in a million years a year ago would we have guessed cooper flag is going number one and dylan harper is going number two and philadelphia is picking number three and by the way with the way the season started last year we were the two seed for over half the season right didn’t think we’d be picking 11th or 16th for any of this so you never know and so right orlando is a paulo or a fron you know massive injury away from you know having a down year like we went through two years ago you never know those way those picks are going to go that being said you you attained the assets so that you could make moves like this and they looked at it and thought and you heard zack kleman last night even with names that are like free agent wise or whatever we thought this was the best use of the asset we thought like this is a guy that we targeted this is a guy that we wanted for sure and so we went up and got him and we’re aggressive about it there we have we have his we have said we’re not one player away i was like okay kimman kimman also said last night in addition to saying we’re not one player away he also said when he was asked about the risk of doing this because it’s a guy that has he only played x number of games in college competition wasn’t as good you know the risk of trading these assets in order to get up and klyman’s answer was basically threw it back at the guy and said “the risk to us is not getting the guy that you have the highest on your board.” that’s the risk that’s the zire williams yeah yeah you know what i mean that’s the zire williams lesson so they weren’t gonna mess around with this one even if it cost them assets so yesterday morning true hoop puts out an article this is before any of this plays out you know for many years coach david thorp has been on our show and oh my goodness i read his article yesterday and it says i would take cedric coward second in the nba draft behind cooper flag and i was like you got to be kidding me what are we doing here like we’ve been talking up cedric coward on the show for weeks and now this article comes out and a guy that we have had insane amounts of respect for for many many years and his basketball acumen says that he would take him number two overall behind cooper flag and then lays it out all in the article that was on uh true hoop uh that came out yesterday i think we have him with us i think coach thorp’s with us i’m here hey good 4k 4k okay getting that florida sun huh coach thorp yeah how are you i’m sure you guys are very happy today you got yourselves a hell of a player all right so when did you first become aware of cedric coward because i am so fascinated by this incredible love affair you have with him as a player and i mean this is a guy that we didn’t see right we didn’t we didn’t watch him play collegiate basketball and a guy that really got on our radar and i think a lot of nba fans radar just a few weeks ago but obviously you have had um you have had even personal contact with him well prior to when everybody became enamored with him combine on when did you first find out or know about cedric coward so you know every year i normally get calls from different agents and agencies asking me for uh just my thoughts on what a player looks like and what does he project to do to be and and maybe what it should be working on in terms of a you know player development plan whether i’m involved with them or not which in most cases i don’t get involved with with them i only can do so many guys and um so a year ago i was asked to come to la to watch him i don’t think i even saw him in pre-draft i saw him for his pro day and was really under underwhelmed with his lack of athleticism as i as i wrote in the article uh he looked the part until you saw him play and then you were i was i didn’t see any pop like if you’re watching the game and let me just say this uh on behalf of the nba i apologize for everyone who watches these telecasts and these shows none of them have any idea what they’re talking about when it comes to winning nba basketball they just they talk of narratives and cliches they don’t really or if they if they understand it they don’t share it with with anyone publicly sadly tragically anyway i’m watching this guy who doesn’t really have any athletic pop in a league that i know how valuable that is and i told the agents involved there were two that uh i don’t see him as a draftable player this year coming from eastern washington and i know that he was i think at that point already transferred to washington state i said he needs to work on his athleticism and they asked me to talk to him and so i did i don’t remember talking to him as i wrote in the article but apparently according to him i told him like you don’t jump you play like an old man you’re really skilled man but still an old man like we need to see some pop man and uh fast forward i mean i was in touch with him some during the year i think he liked that i was really honest with him he didn’t play but six games this year so that tells you something about how little i really had a chance to give him feedback during the year i went to see him in pre-drafts and i’d already heard he was really impressive in pre-draft workouts with his own group of guys from the agency so i spent a week in la in may and you could you could hear the dunks before you saw them as the ball was hammering down on the ground and he’s represented by the same agents that work with ryan nemhard in the draft who’s been around good players for a long time as you guys probably know and not not just including his brother rg barrett and shay and all those guys and he was telling me it it’s like i’ve never heard explosions like this when the ball hits the ground from a guard which is really what cedric is in my opinion so when i spoke to him he said you embarrassed me coach and i felt terrible and then he said no no no you embarrass me because i let myself forget about the importance of athleticism and focus so much on my skill game i forgot to be an athlete and uh then when he jumped 38 and a half inches in the combine and also did really well on speed and quickness test forget about the physical stuff it it goes without saying that’s when i realized okay this guy’s he’s probably the best prospect in the draft but you can’t not take cooper flag number one which is why i put him at number two okay why what do you think changed so dramatically beyond the i started to try to be a skillful player but i i had to remember that i do like do you think there was a drastic improvement in athleticism or that it was just completely untapped when you first saw him that’s a great question i don’t know the full answer because i didn’t really watch anything from eastern washington but i did speak to nba scouts who told me stories of like you know we saw him as a freshman get a tip dunk on this or get a breakout skill dunk on that so that told me he had some athleticism when he was younger and i just don’t think he valued it i also think listen guys i saw mari starttomire when he was in high school look as bland and normal as you could look one year later he was competing for rookie of the year and then won rookie of the year i saw him as a high school senior stink up the joint because he was bored out of his mind i think cedric was playing with his food and didn’t even realize he was that good so i so you asked the question i think the answer is not anything i did i think it was going to the pre-drafts a year ago working out for teams seeing all these talented guys around him and realizing i can be better than these guys i just kind of gave him a little maybe keyhole to follow go through you know okay but i also think he’s super competitive and recognized man i can i can do everything these guys are doing and as i wrote in the article and you may be aware of it the guy’s made over 72% of his field goals for his two-point shots people don’t do that against the air and this guy did it in over two years and six games of college i don’t care if it’s d1 lowle mid-level it it’s just don’t no one does that that tells me there’s an understanding of what a good shot is it’s very hard to learn how to play this game the skills are one thing which he has but jaylen green has skills too he can’t play the game yet he’s gotten better the guy that was in houston now in phoenix he doesn’t know how to play the game yet cedric clearly has a feel for the game of what a good shot is and then the ability to make it which is a whole separate issue he’s got both so combine that with athleticism the freak size he’s got a swagger he’s got a maturity i mean he just he’s if he if the guy had gone to duke as a freshman i mean he would have been a top two pick in this draft there’s no doubt in my mind let’s talk about some of the knocks right all right and you just hit him one by one level of competition do you ever see damen lillard and john morance’s competition like who cares i i really don’t care if it it’d be different if we averaged nine points a game for three years against average players but again 72% 40% from three uh he scored i think 30 against northern colorado that won like 25 games you know what cooper the acc sucked this year are you are we penalizing cooper flag for that no nor should we right right college is mostly a game played by men professional men and he did this very well you can knock it he didn’t go number one probably because of number two or number three well the ruters guys lost their games against good competition penalizing those guys so i don’t really care about that okay the second thing is nobody had this kid this high on any of the mock drafts until we really got to the combine right in fact as you mentioned he was going to go to duke right and so is it one of these combine warriors oh he interviewed great there’s no question he’s got a great head on his shoulders and is a great interview and then he had all of these crazy measurables and so why how can a guy should you beware of a guy that rises that late in the process so let me forgive me for sounding like an old man i am an old man but forgive me for sounding like a cranky one i’m not typically very cranky the mock draft sites and the writers typically have literally no idea what they are doing other than getting people to click okay that’s their job i’m friendly with many of them but but they don’t know anything about the nba nor do nba teams or should nba teams pay attention to any of these things until very very late in the game right just like they should listen to these college guys who are giving us the best available player for a league they know nothing about okay this is just the reality of it ask your team gm if he really cares what those mockdrafts guys wrote because i heard he was trading up as high as he needed to get to get cedric right he was think that’s a smart gm because the reality is this chris you don’t think portland’s the first team that you think they tried even earlier than portland i am certain of it oh wow i’m i’m certain of it yeah they that’s how that’s how aggressive they were they were until they could find somebody that would give up their pick to grab that well to be to be fair i don’t know that he didn’t maybe they had a deal at five or seven or nine and said “you know what we don’t have to be that aggressive i have no knowledge of that i probably will find out.” but this is what you do is where do where can i get and then can i scale back that’s just smart gming in my opinion but if you go through these drafts guys start start maybe a couple years ago so you give you give everyone drafted a couple years like maybe start with a paulo draft if you can find four or five game changers you’ve done a good job okay i think aaron nesmith was a game changer he only led the nba playoffs in three-point shooting and played incredible defense for the most of the knicks series so he’s probably the low pton pritcher is a game changer so so if we can start with that level andrew nemar this year game changer you’re lucky to find four or five i’m sorry guys go through this draft if you think there’s four or five guys more likely to be game changers than cedric sell me on it because i’ve looked at all of them and don’t see it okay i think i found one year where there were eight guys it was really an amazing draft that’s pretty rare okay to have that many so if you’re a gm you’re looking for the game changers if you can’t get one and you may not be able to get one for lots of different reasons or they get someone to make sure that can play a rotation for you and all of that to me cedric has a chance to be a highlevel game changer one of the things you in that article and i’ve heard you bring this up about him is interesting when we’re talking about comps for a guy and you threw out kate cunningham who i mean kate cunningham is a primary ball handler oh yeah point guard right amazing he’s amazing you think this guy can be like a primary ball handler yes i think so take away memphis for a second just think generally speaking if i was running a team i would make sure he gets lots of opportunities to absolutely suck as the primary ball handler and let let him learn like we just did it with bane for two years that’s true i’m a huge fan of hey there’s no other there’s no other way to succeed than to fail for and learn uh that doesn’t mean you can’t also play him next to someone else also i mean the pistons had ivy before he got hurt along with cade uh brunson started off next to luca harden started off next to all those hall of famers in okc i don’t mind you learning as an offball player but he has primary point guard if you watched him play washington state only because those players didn’t realize they were playing with a potential allnba level player because those guys hey all these nba guys are here to watch cedric but i think i can do my thing too used to drive me a little crazy watching those guys play some and i get it that’s how college can be sometimes but he’s got it he’s got that ability he can really pass and again i point to 72% like the guy doesn’t take bad shots or he’s the greatest shooter of all time if you can make 70% of your shots and you have bad shot selection well you’re the best shooter of all time including curry so let’s assume that’s not the case he’s just a very good shooter finisher no he plays the right way that’s a decision maker and i would argue this when you can make decisions like that on offense you also have the fast processing brain the draymond green brain defensively okay so because i think he can be an elite defender so in theory for your team now you’ve got john triple j obviously uh let him be your one of your primary wing defenders let him learn the game uh hey young man don’t screw up the offense don’t get anyone’s way take good shots become a good defender which going to take some time it’s very hard to do it in year one as a rookie few do but maybe he will he has the length and the mind for it be in great shape so you can play 30 plus minutes a night when we need you and we’ll work you in towards what we think you can become which is a highlevel all-star player at least one executive i know for a fact said he’s an all-star i had another executive tell a source that is absolutely impeccable like he’s kobe jordan like he’s that good this is not me talking come on come on i wrote it in the article chris this is a a an executive with rings okay with rings as both player slashcoach whatever he got i’m not going to say but not not just one ring kobe jordan he’s that good his footwork in the post his forwork on the perimeter uh his shot is beautiful as someone who teaches shooting for a living every everyone shoots kind of differently i don’t really care if you have bad form remember kevin martin was like my son so i don’t really care as long as the ball goes in i’m good we can clean up little things his shot i saw him in person his shot is beautiful he’s got to get a lot better when i read about what he’s got to work on it makes me laugh chris okay it takes i tell players it’s four years minimum if you played four years of college you got four years before you become an elite ball handler end of story and that’s only if you played three or four years of college and dribbled a lot it’s really hard to do yeah that’s why you know what i want to stop on this because you and i had this conversation one time and i asked you i when i was talking about players in the draft i said “can the guy dribble?” i said “we just got exposed against oklahoma city as they exposed everybody all season and along the way right?” like “can the guy dribble under duress?” and your answer to me was “nobody can dribble under duress chris there’s like five guys like the people can’t dribble until it takes years.” yes so so uh as someone who watched the finals very closely try watching andrew nehard who was phenomenal in the playoffs two years in a row really but this year especially with the ball and then go watch him play against a where he was a very good player sixman of the year start in the national champion event it’s night and day it’s jb verse varsity and he’s in year four and he’s 25 it’s hard that’s why okc plays the way they play right it’s just so so everyone in the draft has to get better ball handling jeremiah fears name the guard cam jones who hasn’t been drafted yet all of them have to get better the question is what’s their work ethic like what’s their humility right you want to be confident but also recognizing i’m not i’m not there yet i’ve got to i’ve got to put in the time uh and so knowing cedric a little bit i think he’s going to be one of those guys that’s going to live in the gym because he wants to live up to what his potential is which is you know all nba level player do you feel like you are going harder on this prospect like than you have i i look i’ve known you for the better part over a decade now i’ve never heard you go to bat for a prospect like you and look it’s just by happen stance thank god he ends up in memphis so i get to talk to you about him you could very well be on a show in portland today or wherever else right and but your opinion wouldn’t change about cedric coward based upon him getting drafted to memphis or portland or anywhere else right but i’m so fascinated as to why him in particular because you evaluate players and watch film and and go through drafts every single year why him have you gone so to bat for as compared to other guys in the past to the point where nobody is saying what you’re saying which is that he should be the second player selected in this draft right you are on an island with him in a way that i can’t remember you being on an island with a prospect well the la well well you don’t remember because they didn’t memphis didn’t draft the player but the last time i was like this uh my son was a freshman at florida state and one of his fellow freshman teammates was scotty barnes so i had a chance to watch scotty a lot it was a co year but i was able to watch on film in practice of course i watched all their games i talked to my son every day he’s got a very high basketball iq and when i did the rankings that year i had moy number one and barnes number two and cunningham number three and as i wrote this yesterday maybe maybe i’m wrong kate cunningham is just fabulous who who cares but any of those three are all nba level you’re happy with any of them so but i was extraordinarily high on scotty barnes as a game as a real gamecher for a franchise and uh that’s how i feel about about um cedric is he’s he’s just that got that same kind of upside and your guy clearly sees it and i know for a fact so does some other executives that would have done anything they could to get him they just couldn’t get up high enough to get him do you think he plays as a rookie i think he has a chance to start oh wow i mean listen what do i know about agency if they bring in a better player than cedric of which there are many nba veterans that are better than cedric right now he’s a rookie and he hasn’t played in over almost a year now well not quite a year but you know eight months yeah um absolutely they could find someone better than him and then bring him off the bench i don’t i’m not even suggesting what’s smart you you just got to play him but but i think your your gym is very bright they’re going to play this young man let him fail let him learn on the fly and i like the pressure of having to win because of who he’s playing with to take to make him take it more seriously as opposed to a team that’s just trying to tank i i don’t think that’s i’ve never met you think it’s a better fit for him to be here than if he would have gone to washington or if he would have gone to a rebuild i think yes but also because of the the hole you have with desmond being traded i think he fills that slot differently but aly as a rookie anyway he won’t be as good as it’d be i’d be shocked if he was as good as desmond was this year what rookie is it’s almost so rare to see yeah sure you can’t expect a guy to average 20 points a game and and shoot 40% from three right right but i think that uh you’re going to see what the raptors saw in scotty bar the second half of his rookie season like oh okay i i we like what we have here it took moy a bit before people realize oh this dude’s a hall of fame level talent certainly an all-star nba player i think cedric’s going to show enough people this year where memphis can realize okay he’s somewhere we really build we we basically have our big three which is hard to get but that’s what they have now they have they have three legit guys that are allstar level players and better j’s got work to do obviously triple j’s got to get better he he’s already pretty special as they both are i think cedric is a beautiful compliment to both of those guys and you think he can defend at the nba level as well the 72 wingspan is the 72 wingspan i mean that’s that’s why i like him the the way the way the nba is guys you have to have if you have the high level scoring guard it’s unlikely he can really play great defense and if he can you don’t want him to too much because it’s really hard to score on offense because you’re going against the other team’s best defender you have to have the other dude that can guard the so tyrese has to have nemhard right uh shay has to have wallace and caruso and dort that has to happen so as you put a team together you have to build that way and so yeah i think cedric defensively is going to draw a lot with jaylen walls probably too a lot of the better scores but i think cedric can guard down a little bit and he can guard up to even just some smaller fours without doubt with that wingspan yeah and he’s agile enough and fast and quick and he processes super fast look we’re going to meet the kid for the first time tomorrow the interviews like that’s one of the things we haven’t talked about is just as a kid like the interviews are unbelievable and you mentioned that in your article it’s like he’s like a yeah he’s like a executive he has that as i mean i grew up a you know a jewish kid from a dad was an attorney i’ve been around some smart people in my life they sound like cedric you the way he the way he talks he’s measured um what i like about cedric the few times i’ve really had a chance to speak to him is he was a terrific listener and i think he’s going to bond really well with the veterans on your team not that they’re so old because they’re not uh what he needs to do and this is the the culture you guys have to put together not you but your the franchise is they’ve got to let him blossom it turns out to be if he’s better than john triple j they should be happy right that to me that’s a really important thing when siakim got to indiana there was never butdding heads over who’s going to be the guy even though seakim clearly was a better player tyrese was young whereas in toronto they kind of set up a hierarchy where it was like barnes versus saka made no sense those guys should have been amazing together so if it turns out cedric doesn’t get as good as those guys but he but you give him a chance to fine but he might be better than that and they need to be accepting it because they’ll just win more games that way well and that’s the thing that’s a thing i think every you always worry about with any rookies that come in we just went through it coach thorp uh this past year right where it was like two years ago was the down year and everybody got injured and we got super excited about vince williams and gi jackson and they both had like you know monster games and it when we weren’t winning anything and then vince never came back was a shell of himself post injury and gi jackson couldn’t figure out how to blend in with the rest it is very difficult for any of these young guys to come in and then understand where they are in the pecking order and being the best version of that right like that is the brilliance of jaylen wells a guy that was willing and able to star in his role right if he took six shots tomorrow night that’s fine if he took 12 shots tomorrow night that’s fine too if he took four that’s fine but bro you don’t get to take more shots than john morant and jiren jackson and desmond bane and a lot of guys have a very difficult time fitting into that i guess that my question is do you look at coward as a guy who was the man right like obviously even in the six games that he was playing at washington state but as a guy that’s malleable enough to come in and be you’re like right every nba team has stars and role players right and you’re not going to be a star right off the bat can you function without being a star yeah it’s a great way to phrase it that’s why i look at that 72% from the field this is someone that really knows how to play uh it’s not like he shot it a bunch like i said if if he was a bad shot selector and shooting like that he’s the best shooter ever i think he fits in really good with that and um uh he’s got he’s got the kind of game where he’s not going to get those other guys worse because he’s not a chucker which like cam thomas would be a problem with shamar i like cam thomas but he’s going to shoot that thing a lot same as jordan clarkson from years ago those guys are chuckers right right i don’t see coward as that at all i think my advice young players always is three things be in amazing shape play defense don’t screw up the beautiful offense your coach is trying to install that’s it when when when guys that i work with get drafted or are rookies and come hire me we sit down at dinner i’m no genius those are the three things we set out but like penicell and give it time and always works play defense be in great shape don’t screw up the other the coach’s beautiful offense it seems simple it’s hard to do because egos get involved and and and complacency i don’t get the impression he’s going to be that way and i also think your guy your your gm uh who’s got ownership of this isn’t going to let him fail and i think that’s a super important point too is this kid has all-star talent plus make sure you build a system to allow that to grow and not at the expense of jaw and triple j there’s no need for that he’s good enough where he can fit in and again look at brunson and harden too and there’s lots of examples guys of they learn how to play and fit in and win and then they get an opportunity whether it’s the same team or a different team in the case of brunson harden different teams they became something nobody ever imagined they would become oh gil alexander as well correct well that’s exactly right just became the mvp right like early in their careers harden brunson gil alexander if you would have asked anybody in their fir after year two if i’d have told you that guy’s going to be the mvp of the league that one day you’d have thought you’re nuts you’re nuts hallebertton too tyrese also fair but so here’s the point chris all those guys had to change teams so to me the real challenge for and i think it it’s going to happen i think the guy who moves up to get cedric coward when people thought maybe you shouldn’t although i mean he’s not going to get it to 16 so if you draft him to 16 probably no one bets an eye anyway you want to make sure you get him and i think he was very smart to do it um you don’t want to have to see him go blossom somewhere else you want to make sure you build out that runway let him be an let him impact winning early and then move into the place where okay we got three potential allstars because guess what if you got three allstars on a team you’re winning 55 plus games almost for sure and you’re contending for chi titles which is the goal it’s why you moved up to get them in the first place here’s a big money question you know look the nba’s gotten a lot smarter over the you would agree right like in terms of the teams that and and the and the front offices etc um over the course of the past decade certainly there’s not nearly as much goofy stuff that goes on as there was 10 20 years ago the pelicans trading up notwithstanding um and the and the portland portland drafting a guy that probably can’t play in the nba he’s the chinese zakiti and not nearly as good okay but that’s a whole separate conversation oh god all right so chinese zakit you didn’t see his highlights though dave he was cooking in those highlights did you trust me guys he’s a long long way from in this league it’s not like zack ed is an all-star next year the next couple years and he was much better than than son was when at that age so you’re saying the chinese jokic mark gasol comps are wrong capital w yeah okay so anyway notwithstanding there have been a lot of smarter teams so the question then becomes thorp how did we get this guy at 11 then oh great question guys want to keep their jobs gms pay the salaries are are big some of us chose to do a different route because we value different things my wife has never complained about me because i had opportunities to do it uh you could probably guess some places where chris if you wanted to but um it’s a fat check and a lot of guys don’t want to take the chance of not having it because in their minds drafting a player that fails is how you get fired i argue and i may have heard you say before i came on uh something zach said i argue it’s missing the star that you could have had is what probably should cost you your job but it doesn’t no one ever looks back and say “how did you not draft this guy or this guy?” and again remember this i think most players are the same i think there’s four or five game changers in most drafts the rest of the guys are all about the same how’s your player development program right how is your culture developing these guys to reach their potential i would argue okc is running laps around everybody else okay how how i think they have a better shooting coach who i don’t even know but i chip henglin’s well known for it they let their players play they play a lot of guys remember fellas aj mitchell who barely played in the in the playoffs because he was coming off an injury for three minutes he was out playing caruso to start the season he was getting more minutes than caruso as a second round pick number 38 in the draft on a two-way and getting in games before caruso so dagno gave him a chance so they trust me they’ll plug and play him next year if they lose someone to trades or free agency or injury they just got more guys coming and i don’t think the rest of the league i don’t think there’s a single team’s caught up to that although uh you people have told me because i didn’t follow m memphis as much this year that you guys have some things happening obviously you’ve made some big changes with your coaching staff so we’ll see but you got to develop a bunch of your guys that you draft and then you got to be you got to l lucky enough to get a guy that has a chance to be an all-star and then help him be one most of the guys drafted last night have no chance to be allstars they could be good players and there’s value to that so you look at it and you say this this is a risk and if you would have taken him even higher than it’s obviously look there’s some people that think like he went too high to memphis right memphis traded up to get him i i’ve been actually very impressed that people did not react to where this kid was in the mock draft no mock draft had that kid going that high and yet the response to him going that high has not been negative in fact it’s been positive so it’s a little odd because most people react to whatever they’ve seen in these mock drafts for so long they say “oh that’s too high for this guy that’s too low for that guy.” and so but you would say that it is everybody knows there is a risk right because he is not um he’s not as well known and there’s not as much tape etc as many of his peers he didn’t play on the higher level but by virtue of these mock drafts that if the mock drafts would have had him very high then he would have gone very high but the mock drafts didn’t have him that high and that’s probably why he was still even available at 11 so i heard two things i heard uh i heard when when he worked out he did a pro day at duke i don’t i don’t know who said this but i think it was shy and maybe an assistant or maybe it was just the assistant made a comment after watching him for 10 minutes or so he’s gone he this guy is uh he’s not going to be in college basketball next year when you see what he can do i’ve witnessed it myself i didn’t run the workout i watched it and and it’s breathtaking he’s the best 21-year-old i’ve ever seen shoot the ball that wasn’t already in the nba he’s and he can do so much more than that the the other thing is the best 21 year old you’ve ever seen shoot the ball yeah and i’ve coached countless 40% three-point shooters in the nba none of them were 21 and i’ve been doing this a i’ve been doing 30 years 23 now with nba with nba players my first drafted players were in 99 they weren’t great shooters though they go they both got drafted bootsie thornton and chris carowwell my first two guys ever get drafted they couldn’t shoot chris carowwell the st louis guy yeah from yeah carter ritter he was playing when i was in high school he yeah he was mcdonald’s all-american he’s coached at duke now also was acc player of the year yeah yeah yeah i he came to to my gym after that season he was a senior at duke and he came and trained at clearwater in fact he had dinner at my house with my wife and i before we had even he coaches at duke now yeah he’s been for a long time yeah yeah where he played yeah okay so i think that i give i don’t think it’s hard to evaluate cooper flag and some of these guys that have always been the best in their class like the the kids from ruckers for example i just don’t think it’s hard to evaluate those guys i think it’s harder to do what your gm did to decide this guy is is the guy because there isn’t the same kind of data but that’s where talent comes in as an executive if you have to watch these guys three times in your workouts and 55 times in person in practice and in games i mean anyone i just don’t think that’s hard to do anyone can do it if you want to be talented as an executive well then you’ve got when the data isn’t really there and you still say this is the guy and then you build the culture and the climate to help him get there then you’re an executive above and beyond everybody else well and then how many times have we looked at it in the past as you as you mentioned right like whether it’s there’s a whole lot of teams that passed on giannis a whole lot of teams passed on uh kawhi leonard a lot of guys passed on yeah right there’s a whole lot of players that are the best players in the nba jimmy butler all all down the line uh that a whole lot of teams passed on and so look if it’s just there’s only 10 teams right that i guess passed or 11 teams that passed on him before memphis was able to get him uh last thing anybody else that you were you know you were so high on this guy obviously you had to pay attention a lot to this draft is there anybody else that you were super enamored with that got drafted last night well i i i went to florida but i don’t really have an affinity to any one school anymore um but i’ve been around enough i mean i’ve sent players from my high school team to college and went to the final four i’ve never seen anyone have the kind of run in the postseason walter clayton jr had starting with okay i just look at it this way the sec was the best conference of all time this past year that’s what the metrics say anyway i am the i went to nashville for the first time in forever to go to an to go to a tournament a conference tournament maybe in a decade and basically i thought i was watching professional basketball tournament the i mean the walk-ons were huge i’m not joking huge all these teams these guys came out ripped jack who walked the that auburn that auburn team was 25 years old ridiculous right and and for florida to be second in the sec for the season and then to win the na what they had to do to win the nashville tournament is better than almost any nca tournament run ever had to do oh yeah and then you had to win you had to be two one seeds in the final four and the defending national champs right so what walter clayton did in he wasn’t by himself i i i i was really happy for him uh my son played against him in high school he would it wasn’t so much when he was young but um who do you think he can be is there somebody that clayton reminds you of there’s a few guys he he’s a lot like a jordan clarkson he can really score he’s better with the ball he can really score he can really shoot i don’t know how he’ll defend uh but i i just want him to have a chance unfortunately utah has enough guys that can shoot and can’t defend so i’m not sure what’s gonna happen their whole guard their whole back court except for collier who i think actually he was terrible defense last year but i think he has a chance to be a good defender he’s strong as heck kind of built like some of those strong like lowry types um and then uh yeah there was really no one i got to think about the oh i like derek queen a although people tell me i’m wrong that physically he’s just a mess you know what so was paul milsap so was joic you think there’s a place for the derek queens in this nba that’s the thing i’m worried about shangon shangun joic you know you know what his high school coach called him black jokic that’s the guy at mont verd that had more has more draft picks than kentucky okay he had more draft picks last night in the first round than duke did so i i got to give kim wells some credit to understanding what nba guys look like uh i was super it’s funny you say that because you know his college coach kevin willard had that quote that was going around yesterday if he was white and european he’d go in the top five yeah i i don’t i don’t think he’s right about that that seemed that that seemed a little far i think if he was 30 pounds lighter he might have gone in the top five and i don’t mean i don’t mean just in the draft i mean when he was going through his his freshman season at maryland but he was pretty special um new orleans not a great place to go if you if you like to eat no that’s true you’re right a great place him and him and zion are going to be a hell of a tag team and man i know you love this kid because i listen i saw this from your show yesterday um he’s it’s the draft tonight there’s a few guys i like tonight but uh man if you watch florida play any gator fan would tell you oh you’re going to talk martin yeah he’s oh god winner do you think there’s any chance he drops to where do we have 48 he ain’t making it to 48 is he thorp not based on my knowledge no i i he ain’t getting past early 40s yeah but go get him if you guys were smart i there’s plenty of teams i think he just yeah i made my opinion clear i that’s a kid i fell in love with i heard you yeah he’s crazy he is a crazy vicious competitor i mean to be a starter on two different final four teams and the high he just he dunked on the whole auburn team and as we just chronicled they were all 25 so and by the way the donka that we played it yesterday the crazy part was like we had watched the highlight a bunch of times i said “look at the score it was 66- 63.” in the final four he dunked on the whole team he had he had a more iconic dunk than that in the texas tech game that’s going to be like in the okonnell center where they play the camera was at a certain angle he just soared like almost like jordan did he left early and still did it but but let me tell you my favorite story about him is public uh when they won the sec championship uh i saw this zip file of all these pictures of all the gator players including staff and walk-ons when they were like in middle school and high school and i didn’t really know much about it but i since discovered again it was yahoo or someone caught it uh he stayed up all night one night and found all these pictures of all these guys when they were just dreaming of college one day including todd golden and his whole staff and sent it to everyone in the organization and said “we won the sec nobody cares we’re the underdogs let’s bring that fight this is who we are.” like this dude is a special teammate i talked to some gator guys in nashville this guy is as selfless as you get and unafraid of anybody because look at him 67 half wingspan he’s got the same standing reach as dudes like i think mcneely i think it was 65 66 yeah like he he’s just the alabama coach told me flat out and i’m happy to say this publicly coach oats told me because my son was the g there last year if you if elijah martin comes to us we’re the natty champs because they were men him and clayton in the back court he’s like we had learon fallen and mark sears not against sears who’s a tremendous college player fallen was a was a freshman against those two cats who are both football quarterbacks it was man versus boys that’s how martin is and he picks up full court just like okc and indiana did he picked up 94 feet whatever the college length is all season and was like in it all the time he is an onball phenom not a steel magnet necessarily unless you ask him to be lockdown guy and again just watch the nba playoffs and recognize the value is there anybody else in the oh look look the grizzlies do have two picks in the second round i’m just interested is there anybody else that you love that hasn’t been drafted yet uh you know what you mentioned my guy you mentioned my guy cam do you like cam oh i do i didn’t watch him enough for marquette i i did watch him some i like him a lot i think he’s gonna get drafted you guys may take him at 48 he might be around there i don’t know yeah i’ve not studied the second round a whole lot um i just think you got to draft defenders unless you’re a really gifted shooter passer rebounder some really good skill you have to draft on ball defenders because there’s not enough of them okc had like five or six some of them didn’t even get in the game indiana had one and a half with nehard and nith by the time we got to by the time we got to the playoffs we had one scotty pippen pippen junior yeah that was it because j was out we had one right right you have to have four or five guys and you can just rotate them just like indiana tried to do and okc did and so anyone that can do that to me has a chance if they cannot screw up the offense on the other end gotcha coach thorp you’re the best i kept you way too long i’m sorry buddy no worries best of luck tonight guys my man thank you bud coach david thorp all right you guys heard what he had to say about cedric coward he’s the absolute best because he is the best you i feel like you know you always said when um you always learn something yeah when huie was the coach here you always learn something from i feel like i always learn something about he was spin bars bro the competition thing i love that that’s part thing i didn’t think about like the jaws of the world the damon lillards of the world like nobody ever talk about competition with them yeah why we doing said i i like that a lot but yeah i’m thinking about some other stuff he said a starter he was like “woo!” he thinks he can be a huge star he thinks he can be a big star he thinks he can be an nba allar he held back he did hold back a little bit cuz he does he thinks he can be a big star he thinks he’s like an all he can be an allnba level player how long will it take for him to be a star cuz last night when when kleman said last night that john jiren is still young i said “no they’re not they’re 25 and 26 years old sg just won a title at age 76.” so i was like how long will it take this dude to get to where he not even all the way potential but like even halfway there but in year three is he awesome and i also thought the other thing that was super interesting because i had not thought about this before and he was saying you know being able to fit in and then and he said those he mentioned those three guys they needed to move teams to get their chance and so you try to you know but but that he’s confident they’ll let him fulfill destiny here and you think about those guys whether it is gildas alexander or it is james harden or it is uh bron bronson jayla yeah and they were all fit in guys but if you would have ever in a million years thought these guys are going to be mvp top 10 players in the league like what no way but they did all have to fit in at the beginning yeah i think he has a temperament too to fit in too like he seems like a dude that ain’t one of those i’mma come in take over type of vibe he’s like “yo jan you mean he’s not ace bailey?” my guy tweaking bro ace bailey’s headed on plane to utah danny a does not give a crap you see the photos of him he’s holding his hat bro bro he gonna be in hell tony and marcus smart both told me stories of how they would be at practice and danny ang would walk in and they’d be like “hey danny.” and he’d be like “how’s it going?” he’d be like “just trying to find somebody better than you like all all the time he just constant.” he doesn’t care you’re a number on a spreadsheet today he doesn’t care bro how what can i get for you eventually how do i how do i make this team better and if it means moving you to make them better i’ll move you to make them better that’s right hey how you think bailey’s going to respond to that oh it’s going to be hilarious he’s going to be like “trade me then please trade me now do it.” hey i i was i’m not going to feel bad for him cuz bro he was like “i didn’t work out for them.” you don’t work for work out for anybody bro yeah you didn’t work out for anybody like he’s i was surprised by the pick by the way whatever happened to the phone calls remember they used to get phone calls at the draft is they’re there is this like an nfl thing yeah they’re there nfl players are i mean i guess they are there i guess they are there yeah because it’s all right because the green room is not the green room the green room is the stage at the nba right the nba you see like they’re like in front of the you see somebody like get the phone pick up the phone like “yo you’re about to get picked.” then david stern walk up to the stage you go that chinese guy walking to the he said me you said my name how about that how about hey look how about that shot that he thor i will say this can’t play in the nba no here’s the thing too that’s tough it makes me feel at least positive that we’re not going to look back and go “oh god who was drafted 16th right that was our pick we should have got the i’m glad i was super glad that they drafted the huge chinese guy that’s not going to end up being some kind of hall of famer right like if they would have if they would have taken like somebody else there’s like that fear that oh god this is going to be the trey murphy thing all over again yeah but they took they took no this guy is there’s no chance he was confused that he got picked he was there for the or whatever like yeah yeah he was there for the vibes and the portland trouble said his name he’s like “wait i wasn’t i was just here and he’s walking down you saw his eyes are crazy though like it’s like little tikes the passing is like lil tikes bro but he’s not gonna be good though but i am like i i’m cautiously i’m cautiously worried bro cautiously very i don’t know why i’m usually not that worried but in this moment i am very what are you worried about i just want to see what is there’s a lot of meat on the meat on the bone right now bro like what is the next move like in like well we haven’t even gotten to free agency i know but you can how about how about this do do me a favor worry when we’re about to go to training camp okay worry after free agency okay i worry that how about that that’s when you’re allowed to worry because i’m like listening to the quotes it’s like like don’t say like “oh john jer young or like we’re not one player away.” it’s like “oh my god no don’t do this.” don’t like like we got said like “yeah that’s our guy but like is that going to be the high this off season?” well you just saw they traded desmond bane so i mean obviously they still have to attain their third best player that’s still left and again again wait until we get to okay free agency i’m using the guy as if we get out of free agency okay and this and this roster looks like it does today then i can freak out yes okay i say cautiously optim like cautiously optimistic not like super scared but like just a little there’s a little thought i’m like okay i don’t want this to be the high of the offseason no no there’s more there they they’ve got more stuff to do like give me a give me a wing give me a wing that’s played in the nba and give me a center that’s played in the nba and i’ll be i’ll be riding i’ll be riding would you take finny smith and looney hell yeah or pj and pj and looney or even clint polo and looney or even give keep naming centers keep naming v centers just give me a big who is that guy that they went after how about grant williams you like grant williams i’ll take grant williams he’s annoying as hell but i’ll take him he is annoying as hell he’s coming off an acl isn’t he i think he is he’d fit right in come on bro what come on all right take a quick break we’ll come 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to your host chris vernon clear my old folks and i drew near just a village down in sunny tennessee i’d been speeding on that train that would bring me back again to that girl i left in sunny tennessee i could hear those voices singing as she bid farewell to me far across the fields of cotton my old homestead i could see as the moon rose in its glory all right we’re back chris vern all right now you heard what look you heard what uh thorp had to say about the my guy elijah martin and you know perimeter defense and obviously that’s a guy coveted in the second round he ain’t making it to 48 there’ll be a back stop before 48 so i hope not well the lakers made a trade they’ve moved up from 55 to 45 today to take bryce james that’s what i thought he in the draft bro oh he’s not oh that’s next year he’s arizona bro that’s next year after he’s one and done after averaging two and a half points that’s a sent tweet by the way it’s a sentel tweet the lakers did they put that up no but it sounds like something the lakers traded up to 45 not realizing that they can’t drive they can’t draft bryce james this year okay uh just on what happened last night cooper flag all right i’ll try to go through these real fast you guys stop me if you have any thoughts cooper flag then dylan harper then vj edgecom none of that stuff was surprising i will say i reached out uh i reached out to my buddy chris demarco who’s an assistant coach for the golden state warriors who coaches the bahamas team i don’t think he’d mind me telling you this and i asked him about edgecomb absolutely loves edgecomb yeah that’s he coached him in the bahamas he’s like he is a game changer maybe baylor will finally have an awesome player i remember watching him at the olympics he loves that he’s the one that jumped off yeah and his stories you see the story he told he was like “i lived off a generator for seven years bro.” like y like that like those kind of stories are that those are dudes you no gonna cry oh by the way i and i passed over this dylan harper’s mom became the star of the night everybody fell in love with dylan harper’s mom everybody yeah bro everybody i mean yes they did that was crazy yeah it was crazy how she was the star i mean people were texting me and they’re like “she’s gonna gain a hundred,000.” did you see the stories today too then of course everybody thought she was beautiful but then she coached him from k through 12 she w not ron harper her yeah okay he said she didn’t let him shoot a jump shot until fourth or fifth grade she she she she built the she built a warrior she knows ball she knows ball i think she works for nike too oh really all right then con canipple how much did you love the flying canipples wearing out that group of black guys on a street court that’s ridiculous the video they played of the flying can they’re playing 303 basketball bro in in 1973 footage yeah 280p it did he looked he looked like white kid jump it was hilarious apparently all his brothers have their name starts with a k by the way yeah theipples i thought it was crazy yep brady bunch then we met we already mentioned ace bailey who was super excited to go to utah he was pissed trey johnson i mean i hope you guys watch him in texas cuz you won’t see him again for three years oh yeah except when he comes here once a year you see him for the wizards um is he the one who had the shorts the short guy with the freak shorts horrible yeah red flag one of the worst fits of the night the red flag red flag red flag seven was jeremiah fears he he look chained zero fears is a great jersey going to go fire platinum bro the zero fears jersey he also carries himself you can see he’s going to be good yeah he’s gonna be he’s gonna be good you can see how he carries himself i did listen to a podcast i did listen to a podcast though what he cannot shoot like cannot shoot little guards that can’t shoot or don’t have great track record hey our guy’s good our guy’s awesome what are you looking at me for like that how dare you how dare you what did i say wait little guy like yuki no j can’t shoot j can’t shoot he’s awesome you can fix a jumper bro yeah how dare you [ __ ] but this just no that’s a more of a thing with fears like dude you can’t obviously obviously i was completely out on uh yagore denman as soon as i got the pronunciation guide and realized he is not eigore he’s yaore he’s yagore oh no he sucks so i i don’t care if you want to go by eigor you’ll be good but jagor we also we also won’t see him ever again yeah in brooklyn maybe maybe maybe if uh megan triplet tweets it out uh kyler murray boils went to the toronto raptors he went viral for saying the f-word after they drafted him and people were posting it and saying he’s a kendrick fan also his uh his girl he’s one of the ones that girlfriend actually got air time last night too chloe kits is beautiful bro yeah his girlfriend’s on the south carolina women’s team oh okay look at you ros you’re tapped in huh i’m i like colin murray boils him and coward those are my two all right 10 was the maluch yeah his story was amazing okay yes like the dude was sobbing on the stage i was like “bro that this means more crying too.” no i’ve got the interview the interview this was this is one of my favorite moments of the entire night last night was this kid from duke getting drafted 10th overall like me being delusional about my dreams believing in myself that i’m going to make it to the nba one day and now i’m here in the nba draft just got there we also talked about the pride and all the folks that you are representing what do you want to say about the people that have helped you get here and in particular your roots in africa i mean i’m here representing the whole continent uh living africa i had the whole continent on my back giving hopes to young kids inspiring young kids and the next generation of african basketball specifically to your parents mid and aang what would you say to them as they’re watching at whatever time it is where they’re watching i mean i want to thank them so much for for raising me the way they raised me uh i mean i got a good black suit i got south sudan flag inside and i got uganda flag inside that i’m representing those two countries because i i was born in south sudan and i grew up in uganda my whole life so i feel like these two countries are home to me and i didn’t want to forget where i come from and i i want to represent them up here and after all that i i represent all those two countries and i also represent the whole of africa i hope he is awesome i’m rooting for him bro i hope he is awesome and it’s i mean his interviews were so great all night and it’s just like such a cool story south sudan and uganda mhm he’s like and this is for all the kids out there all the little african kids out there that are growing up you know i was delusional about my dreams i mean i bet it was awesome it was awesome he that’s that’s somebody you’re gonna root for 11 obviously best pick of the draft by a wide margin cedric cower to the grizzlies yeah by the way jaylen wells has acknowledged your jersey by the way on twitter jaylen wells he’s acknowledged that you’re wearing a cougs jersey yeah oh he is jayen wells watching the show he’s no he just he he quote tweeted says “shout out to the cougs jersey.” he tweeted that he just tweeted that this is the km jersey i bought when we won those bets i couldn’t find mine so you good it was the best i could do hey look you did a good job it was the best i could do we all cougs around here bro he’s wearing the washington state jersey uh then we got noah sen he fell a little he did he fell a little i mean look at it do you see a suit you deserve to fall when you wear a suit like that then we had derek queen okay that this was just wild the pelicans i mean to have them trade next year again unless there’s two things big plans in this off season for them or they’re delusional it’s one or the other right like do you think you’re going to be good well if they are good right they’re paying they’re in the second apron if they are going to try to be good like no no but i’m saying do you think you’re going to be good like how good yeah i cuz like that pig next year could be awesome yes it could be who are you going to be better than right dejante jordan pool trey murphy zion that’s not bad but it ain’t good good it’s just it’s just insane to move up again they had a pick later to move up 10 spots and give up next year’s pick unprotected yeah that’s a little aggressive and again and how does queen fit with zion brothers of destruction okay brothers of destruction no at the at the buffet the buffet killers at the buffet yeah yeah they’re gonna walk in together two man on the buffet yeah i guess and maybe derek queen look look i mean maybe he ends up being fantastic who knows but that seems crazy to me carter bryant ended up going 14 thomas sorber went 15 so he went to uh oklahoma city let’s just hope that’s one that they finally got wrong all right i think they watched his tiktoks and drafted him cuz you see him on tiktok thomas sorbar that’s all he does is dance is it good all he does is dance oh god he’s so he’ll fit right in with the dancing thunder they should have a thunder what’s that what’s that show in vegas it’s the it’s like the male strippers you know what i’m talking about they always send the ads when we’re in vegas get those ads we don’t get the ads bro when you’re in vegas dummy with the things they have on the you know when you’re like at your hotel room and they’ve got like the flyers and whatever you know what i’m talking about and they got billboards everywhere what is it it’s thunder down under and it’s the it’s like the male review stop acting like you don’t know what i’m talking about happy june bro thunder down under happy pride month happy pride month all right young hansen went uh 16th so at least we don’t have to worry about you know that being a regret for the rest of our lives uh minnesota took a chick at 17 i didn’t joan behinger i got it it is 2025 but damn i saw i saw the name and i was like that’s crazy we making jones in 2025 who knows dude jones oh my god i’m just reading what it says that’s a dude a dude named joan he’s uh where’s he from i guess you don’t pronounce it that way is it johan i think you pronounce it johan he’s from french oh he’s from he’s young walter clayton jr okay so look that one was fascinating to me because not only had the wizards already taken trey johnson and then obviously the the walter clinton jr he ends up it was the wizards pick but he ends up going to utah right so he ends up going to utah but another guy that and i i think i started to tell you guys this but then we tailed off into something else because none of us have any attention span whatsoever none walter clayton jr i saw an interview with him and it was a lot like that like slam magazine type of thing that i showed you like the rapid fire things and they were like if you could go to dinner with any three people who would you go to dinner with and he was like pat riley eric bolstra and you know bam bio and then they were like who’s the best player ever and he’s like dwayne wade like he literally was all heat who walter clay yes and everybody then said he’s got a promise at 20 like he wanted to be he wanted to play for the i’m telling you i saw an interview where he answered every question with heat like he picked like eric spolster is one of the people you would want to go to dinner on what are you talking about come on you don’t have to kiss up to your coach that much but i mean he knew and so the deal was he worked out for miami he canceled everything else oh okay so then he went 18 now his ass is going to utah you going to utah you went you you went from speedos to canada goose coats yeah good luck my dog you better get those canada goose going from bbl’s to flatbacks have fun my dog ain’t no bbls in utah ain’t no bbl’s in utah my dog why they got to be flat they got to be flat come on they can do squats uh 19 nolan trayor who who is that who i i went through yeah i went through all these draft things and i guess there was just some of these guys i didn’t spend enough time he’s a french dude too bro yeah he’s from france they had a ton it’s another french dude your guy dropped yeah he did asa newell he did but he but he ended up in a good spot with the hawks atlanta yeah he had the best he had the best uh fit of the night too with the purple suit you see that joint oh where did treyor go what number he went to 19 to brooklyn that was their second point guard they took how many did they take three point guards last night ben sif is he a point guard who the hell is that some of these names it’s like ben sif played at real madrid bro you went through a whole span where it was like create a player name it was like and the next pick will riley and the next pick drake powell and the next pick ben sif it’s like what 2k name he is a guard i mean he’s a guard he’s 66 6566 nate clifford went to the oklahoma city thunder that’s a kid that we saw of course he did he’s going to sacramento yeah yeah yeah by the way but he went there picked and isn’t walter clayton he’s not going is he going to utah it is utah he’s going to utah bro i thought it was washington no he got drafted okay yeah by the way they they’ve uh finished the privacy verno did you see this atlanta hawks put the photo up is it jacob down there or jaylen jaylen whoever it is down there put it up they they i told you they have four a lineup they’re going to have all light-skinned players and they draft the ace or noel come on come on no they all look the same they all look like porzingis it’s a transformation photo bro now you put ace of noel at the five and and it just looks like it’s all them look at it’s all them together wow yeah shout out to the hawks man not earlier shout out but you’re not you’re not yeah you like that you like that outfit oh yeah the the fit was elite shout out noel and then i i was uh you know i was texting back and forth with uh jacobe and joe house and bill simmons last night and uh i texted when when it got to 28 bill wanted the kid from st joe’s so bad and then they took hugo gonzalez so i i text him you just draft you just congrats on drafting the star of hustle 2 not hugo he’s gonna be the new the new hearnen gomez with anthony edwards talking [ __ ] to him or cedric coward hugo gonzalez cedric coward talking crazy to hugo gonzalez i can’t wait i love it hey by the way that’s hustle too with adam sandler yeah i’m with it also the magic have a type too bro m they got jace richardson they drafted uh what’s the name son uh cole anthony greg anthony son okay and they grab jay they drafted uh jace uh howard wait wait jet howard jet howard jet howard there’s another anthony no i’m saying they drafted cole anthony nicole anthony jet howard jon players they want like the sons of nba players sons of the players they got a type bro okay by the way and then the i stayed up to watch the all the way till the end did you see that guy walk out of the stands that the clippers drafted he’s gigantic he was like way up too he’s gig who is that and he ran to the stage bro he sprinted he was a giant yeah he was big yanik where said he played at stanford or something no no not stanford where did he play penn state penn state i was like who the hell are you first penn state player taken in the first round ever ever ever trust me darnell was having a yeah he was he was tucking it last night he was so he was huge oh yeah yeah he was like 72 or something yeah he’s yeah he’s like a legit i think footer yeah yeah he’s a footer his his thing says he also he also looked crazy seeing him walk out of the stand no he was sprinting bro both of these running down both of they put the do they put all the giants in the stands like the freaking chinese guy was there too we got no room for you how did they have room for their knees i guess no tables available for let me show you the video of him running down the is that is that poor cockbrunner still sitting up there guy from i know just there for the he’s just he’s just still no he’s still in the stands he’s up in the upper deck like the rest of the footers yeah they’re just like it’s a seven foot section ben’s knees are like seven foot hey jacob put the video of my guy running from the suite to the stage bro they drafted this dude and he sprinted bro play if you got the video downstairs oh i can’t say i play the video to jaylen because he’s not here today he took the day off he took the day off yeah but jacob can you play the video for me neaterous look at this dude sprinting down the hallway bro oh that’s awesome you got to be really wary of hitting your head on something no dude he’s like having to duck the whole time he’s running yeah he neaterhouser neaterous that’s his last name that is going to look horrible on a jersey it’s a neater jersey the rainbow jersey i mean with no hyphen no hyphen neaterhouser sounds like a is there someone who has to who has to stitch those or do they just let the machine do it now let the machine do it now they just type it in and the machine does it sews it in there that’s a wicked jersey anyway looks like there’s a couple other centers that are possible second rounders there’s a guy named rocco in the second round i like that i like that rocco zakarsski from brisbane australia i like that um all right so look i mentioned those names yesterday obviously i i’m in love with elijah martin but i don’t know if he’s going to make it to the grizzlies pick um you know the other ones are like guys that like i that i know just from watching a ton of college basketball i root for cam and i hope he does well the kid from memphis cam jones i i also uh cam jones i also uh as i mentioned you know the nemhard thing he’s little but he’s his brother’s his brother’s fantastic so if he ended up having a career it would be that surprising cam jones nemhard you know i mentioned janai broom yesterday to you guys i don’t you think he’s going to be terrible yeah i don’t think he’s going to be very skilled i think this i kind of want roser to call his 3020 g-league game he could be like well just like uh uh what’s his name bop was last year yeah armando oh yeah armando bay he’s not really athletic but he was super cold this dylan brooks story just came out what dylan brooks story bro this is insane from complex dylan brooks alleges his ex heather andrews was emotionally abusive and threatened to cut off his fingers the nba star has filed for a restraining order cut off his fingers yeah claims she has destroyed his belongings hacked into his social media accounts and even once threatened to cut off his fingers oh no this a baby mama i’m scared to say something cuz she might find our show no they had the kid and then and then they like broke up and then i think and then they ended up having another kid yeah it says brooks reportedly said he met andrew during a visit to las vegas nightclub in 2018 then they began a relationship not long after within months of being together she became pregnant and she was emotionally abusive that’s when the emotionally abusive well she’s the one that went on social media to trash him oh i remember she used she was used to she used to tag the team account that’s right it was hardcore like we used to post a happy father’s day post heather right she would spam that the the father’s day post man i hope we can get through it the alleged texts are out there too she says “i’ll pull up at the gym i’m done effing around it’s war just wait i’ll have someone cut off each one of your effing little fingers off one by one so you can never play basketball and actually now i understand why people are racist was this like good lord this is over is it over child support it doesn’t say all that but cuz remember he was the one saying that she wasn’t letting him see the girl and another one says “i’m going to have you hurt.” oh that sucks that’s awful man sucks damn db damn db cut off his fingers cut off fingers is a wild you gota you know how crazy you got to be to say that bro like i’ve heard i’ve heard some crazy stuff from the female uh i don’t even understand how that even like you know what whatever whatever happened to barry sanders handing the ball to the referee and whatever happened to just slashing somebody’s tires now we’re cutting off digits cutting off digits can you imagine you just keyed a car yeah carrie underwood made a song about that didn’t he right i took my key out yeah that’s a banger by the way that’s right proud of you oh that’s a banger bro that joint is a banger shout out carrie underwood bro maybe next time no she didn’t yeah part of the lyrics are not i’ll cut his fingers off that’s the remix yeah so like the the the fingers crazy girls like just listen to carrie underwood a little bit just go back to slashing tires and keying cars happened now we’re talking about cutting people’s hands off and having and have like i’m going to catch somebody basketball i don’t know i don’t even think dylan brooks really needs them he could play with nubs shoot the same percentage the first nba player with nubs is crazy that’s wild he might be better hans hansel plays there’s hansel he’s got one he’s got one at hand he does i’ll tell i’ll tell you this in the show we would have won we would have won game four in golden state if he had nubs oh my for sure i’m walking away we for sure would have won game four game four if he had he had nubs what is wrong with i’m not endorsing this to happen i’m just analyzing the game what’s wrong with y’all bro i got a canadian shirt on today too bro don’t do that we’re out of here this show’s yeah what is that shirt this is lance storm you know lance storm yeah i remember lance storm kind of homoerotic whoa no you talking i can’t be homoerotic yes it does you got an oiled up man on your shirt look at look at the back up look at the back of it though he’s oiled up don’t blame canada blame yourself but why is he so oiled up this man talking about oiled up people he talking about getting ads look at it you look like that that looks like the thunder down under show in vegas well you guys the ad that me and roger didn’t get you guys get it all out cuz uh get those you got like four more days guys you got four more days you got four more days verto four more days to what to keep going keep going to what ke dude oh your favorite month bro shut up idiot all right look cedric coward’s going to be on the show tomorrow that’s happening so tune in and then he’s going to win rookie of the year and then he’s going to be a hall of famer no big whoop and he’s going to win us a chip shout out to dylan brooks fingers we will uh be back tomorrow thanks to deon walker thanks to john roser across the glass thanks to jacob back in the studio till tomorrow we gone
#chrisvernonshow
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FIRE KLEIMAN
I’m so fired up! Let’s go Memphis. Sorry to that Portland fan smh