⏰ 2025 NBA DRAFT LIVE | ROUND 2 ⏰

⏰ 2025 NBA DRAFT LIVE | ROUND 2 ⏰

>> NIGHT TWO OF THE NBA DRAFT IS UPON US. WE ARE LIVE IN NEW YORK. I AM YOUR HOST, GREG. THIS IS MY COHOST, CARTER. JONATHAN WASSERMAN IS WITH US. THESE GENTLEMEN WILL HELP US BREAK DOWN THE CHAOS IN STORE ON NIGHT TWO AS WE TURN THE PAGE FROM LAST NIGHT TO TONIGHT. I THINK THERE IS ONE NAME WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR TO BE SELECTED, FLEMING. A LITTLE BIT OF A SURPRISE TO NOT SEE HIM COME OFF THE BOARD IN THE FIRST 30 PICKS. HE IS TH NUMBER ONE PLAYER ON THE BIG BOARD. HOW SURPRISED ARE YOU THAT WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR FLEMING TO BE PICKED? >> I HAD HIM GOING 31ST IN MY ORIGINAL MOCK DRAFT. HE WAS NOT INVITED TO THE GREEN ROOM, WHICH IS SOMEWHAT TELLING. I HAD SOMEONE ASK ME WHY HE WAS NOT PICKED. THERE IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE ONE GUY. FLEMING WAS IT THIS YEAR. DOES NOT SOUND LIKE HE WILL FALL TOO FAR. HE WILL BE THE FIRST PICK OF THE SECOND ROUND. HE HAS A PROJECTABLE GAME. THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT A PATHWAY TO UPSIDE EAST ON HIS POTENTIAL WEAKNESSES BUT I’M SURE WE WILL GET INTO THAT ONCE HIS NAME IS CALLED. >> YOU ALLUDED TO WHAT MAY HAPPEN IN A FEW MOMENTS. THE ONE AND ONLY JAKE FISHER HAS SOME UPDATES FOR US ON RASHEER FLEMING. WHAT’S UP? >> IT WILL BE RASHEER FLEMING AT NUMBER 31, SOMEONE WHOSE RANGE STARTED AROUND NUMBER 17 LAST NIGHT WITH MINNESOTA, DEPENDING ON HOW THE BOARD BROKE, BUT WE WERE EXPECTING CHAOS AND THERE WERE INDEED A TON OF TRADES THROUGHOUT THE FIRST ROUND, AND WE ARE EXPECTING A TON MORE TONIGHT. THE NUMBER 31 PICK IS ALREADY BEING MOVED AS THE TWEET UP ON THE SCREEN SHOWS. THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES WERE FIELDING CALLS FROM ALL OVER THE LEAGUE. THIS IS KIND OF WHY THE LEAGUE WANTED TO BREAK UP THIS NIGHT INTO A TWO DAY EVENT AND THE TIMBERWOLVES ARE THE CLEAR BENEFICIARIES SO FAR, HAVING A FULL WORKDAY TO TALK THROUGH THESE DEALS. WE WILL SEE MORE TRADES. 31 HAS BEEN MOVED. 36 HAS BEEN MOVE. IT WAS ORIGINALLY MOVED TO PHOENIX AND THAT IS HOW THE SUNS MOVED UP WITH THEIR 52ND PICK IN THE 59TH PICK THEY GOT FROM THE ROCKETS IN THE EARLIER KEVIN DURANT TRADE SO THE SUNS WERE CLEARLY AGGRESSIVE AND TRYING TO GET RASHEER FLEMING. THEY HAD HOLES. THEY ACHIEVED FILLING SOME OF THOSE ALREADY LAST NIGHT BY TRADING THE 29TH PICK AND A 2029 FEATURE FIRST TO CHARLOTTE. NOW THERE IS SOME BUZZ THAT BOSTON WILL DO THAT. I WOULD REALLY — I MEAN, I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF ONE OF 33 AND 34 ISN’T MOVED. THEY HAVE BEEN CONDUCTING A LOT OF TRADE CALLS AS WELL. AND ALL DOWN THROUGH THE 40’S. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF MOVEMENT. FROM TALKING TO AGENTS TODAY ALL DAY, A LOT OF TEAMS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PRE-NEGOTIATE WHAT TYPE OF CONTRACT THE PLAYER THEY ARE TAKING OUT WHATEVER PICK THEY ARE CHOOSING FROM IS OPEN TO, WHETHER IT’S THE STANDARD SECOND ROUND ROSTER SPOT, A TWO WAY CONTRACT. I HEARD TEAMS AS EARLY AS THE MID-30’S HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET PLAYERS TO AGREE TO A TWO WAY CONTRACT TO GET PICKED. THERE’LL BE A LOT OF THAT BEHIND-THE-SCENES NEGOTIATING BEHIND — NEGOTIATING GOING ON BEFORE THESE GET FINALIZED AND I THINK WE WILL SEE THE LAKERS. THERE IS STILL A LOT OF BUZZ AROUND THEM WANTING TO MOVE UP FROM 45. SOME DENVER TRADE TALK. WE WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON ALL THAT AS WE MOVE THROUGH THE SECOND ROUND. >> THANK YOU. IF I COULD SUMMARIZE EVERYTHING YOU TOLD US, IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WILL HAVE JAKE FISHER ON THE PHONE GIVING US THE LATEST UPDATES. THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PLAYERS THAT MADE A SPLASH LAST SEASON IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL STILL ON THE BOARD, CERTAINLY SOME GREAT INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS. WHO ARE SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS AVAILABLE IN YOUR MIND? CARTER: LOOKING AT WASSERMAN’S BIG BOARD, YOU HAVE A LOT. HE SHOOTS A LOT FROM EVERYWHERE ON THE BOARD. YOU HAVE JEVON SMALL, CAM JONES. A LOT OF HIGH-LEVEL TALENT ON THIS BOARD. THERE’S A LOT OF GUYS THAT ARE IN THE SECOND ROUND THAT COULD HAVE GONE BACK TO SCHOOL BUT ARE NOW DOUBLING DOWN TO ACHIEVE THEIR DREAM. HEARING JAKE TALK ABOUT THAT MEANS WE WILL BE IN THE FISHBOWL TONIGHT AND THAT HAS ME EXCITED. >> IT IS A FUN PLACE TO BE. >> SO FLEMING WILL COME OFF THE BOARD AT 31 IS THE EXPECTATION. THAT WAS THE NAME EVERYONE WAS SURPRISED THAT HE FELL TO THE SECOND ROUND. IT DOES FEEL LIKE FROM HEREON IT IS BEING AT THE ICE CREAM STAND AND PICKING YOUR FAVORITE FLAVOR. YOU CAN BE A TEAM THAT ONCE SHOOTING AND TALK YOURSELF INTO CHAZ LANIER, MAYBE CAM JONES. MAYBE WANT SOME TOUGHNESS DEFENSIVELY. WATKINS CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU THAT. I AM LOOKING AT YOUR BIG BOARD. YOU HAVE THE TOP 10. OUTSIDE OF FLEMING, WHO WAS ABOUT TO COME OFF THE BOARD, WHICH PLAYERS DO YOU THINK ARE LIKELY TO HEAR THEIR NAME CALLED IN THE NEXT COUPLE PICKS? >> MAXIME RAYNAUD WAS ONE OF THE BIGGER SURPRISES IN TERMS OF WHO DID NOT GO IN THE FIRST ROUND BASED ON ALL THE BUZZ THAT OCCURRED OVER THE PAST MONTH SINCE HIS BIG NBA COMBINE SCRIMMAGE WHEN HE SHUT IT DOWN THE NEXT DAY. GO BACK AND LOOK AT THIS TAPE. HE MADE 67 THREES. ONLY TWO GUYS IN NCAA HISTORY HAVE AVERAGED THAT OR BETTER. HE DID SOME UNIQUE UNPRECEDENTED THINGS ON THE FLOOR. THOSE THINGS HE DID ARE PRETTY COVETED BY THE NBA. FOR HIM NOT TO BE PICKED WAS A SURPRISE. I TALKED TO SCOUTS AFTER THE COMBINE WHO SAID HE IS CLOSER TO THE LOTTERY THAN NUMBER 30. OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS NOT THE CASE BUT I CANNOT IMAGINE HE WILL BE ON THE BOARD VERY LONG. I HAVE HIM AT 32 RIGHT NOW IN MY RESET SECOND ROUND DRAFT BOARD GOING TO BOSTON. >> YOU HAVE BEEN TAMPERING WITH HIM FOR YOUR COLLEGE BASKETBALL PROGRAM FOR A FEW YEARS NOW. >> THE MOMENT HE ENTERED THE TRANSFER PORTAL I THOUGHT HE WOULD TAKE HIS TALENTS ELSEWHERE. YOU SEE A LOT OF PLAYERS IN THIS ERA TAKE THEIR TALENTS TO A NUMBER — TO ANOTHER SCHOOL BUT CREDIT TO HIM THAT HE STUCK WITH STANFORD. YOU LOOK AT THE MODERN NBA. HE CAN REBOUND. HE HAS THE HEIGHT AND THE SIZE. HE’S UNDERRATED WITH HIS PASSING AS WELL. I WAS ON THE SAME PAGE AS HIM. I WAS SURPRISED THAT HE DIDN’T GET PICKED TOWARDS THE END OF THE FIRST ROUND. GREG: ONE OF THE STORYLINES FOR ME FROM NIGHT ONE WAS THE MANY MEMBERS OF THE BROTHERHOOD, THE DUKE FAITHFUL. CONNOR, NUMBER FOUR. CEDRIC HOWARD, EVEN A DUKE COMMIT WHO CAME OFF THE BOARD AT 11. TYRESE PROCTOR. YOU SEE HIM IN THE TOP FIVE. THIS IS A GUY WHO I THOUGHT GOT A LOT BETTER, MADE BIG STRIDES LAST SEASON AFTER A SHAKY SOPHOMORE YEAR AT DUKE. HE WAS SOLID FROM A SHOTMAKING PERSPECTIVE AS DUKE CONTINUOUSLY WON GAMES IN THE ACC AND ULTIMATELY MADE A RUN IN MARCH. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING FOR PROCTOR’S FATE? DO YOU EXPECT TO SEE THEM OFF THE BOARD IN THE NEXT FEW PICKS? CARTER: I DO BECAUSE THERE IS SOME POSITIONAL VALUE. THERE WAS LOTTERY BUZZ. BUT HE KIND OF SETTLED INTO HIS ROLE AFTER A SHAKY YEAR. HE DEFENDS THAT AT A HIGH LEVEL. PLAYED A LITTLE BIT OFF BALL THIS YEAR. I DO THINK THAT PROCTOR IS KIND OF A PROTOTYPICAL NBA GUARD. HE HAS COMPARISONS TO GUYS LIKE DERRICK WHITE, ONE OF THE BEST OF THAT KIND OF PLAYER IN THE NBA. TEAMS WILL BE LOOKING FOR WHAT TYRESE PROCTOR CAN BRING BECAUSE HE’S LOOKING GREAT. SURROUNDED BY SOME GOOD PLAYERS AT DUKE. HE SETTLED INTO HIS ROLE, WHICH LED TO DUKE BEING SUCCESSFUL. >> DUKE WAS GREAT, ARGUABLY THE BEST TEAM IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL LAST YEAR WAS THE AUBURN TIGERS. IF THERE WAS ANY PLAYER WHO IS GOING TO CHALLENGE FOR THE NATIONAL PLAYER OF THE YEAR AWARD, IT WAS DENIED — IT WAS BROOM. SOMETIMES WE SEE PLAYERS THAT ARE PREVENTED FROM BEING TAKING EARLIER. HE HAD INJURIES BUT HE WAS AS PRODUCTIVE AS ANY PLAYER IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL LAST YEAR. I DON’T SEE HIM IN THE TOP 10 BEST AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW AND HONESTLY I HAVE NOT TALKED TO WASS ABOUT HIS THOUGHTS SO HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT HIM AS AN NBA PROSPECT? >> I THINK HE IS A PRO. WE TALK ABOUT TOP 10 FROM 30 TO 50. IT DEPENDS WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. THERE ARE 10 GUYS ON THE BOARD. BROOME IS A HIGH FLOOR GUY. SO DEPENDING ON WHO I AM PICKING ON, I HAVE TO PREFACE MY BIG BOARDS BY SAYING THAT. HE CAN MAKE A BIG OUTSIDE SHOTS. THAT WILL BE KEY. AS A 23-YEAR-OLD PLAYER, THERE’S A COUPLE GUYS WHO ARE MORE ENTICING. >> HE GIVES HOPE TO PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO HAVE SMALL VERTICALS. DID YOU SEE HIM AT THE COMBINE? >> IT WAS GOOD TO SEE BUT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO TAKE THE COMBINE WITH A GRAIN OF SALT BECAUSE BROOME UNEQUIVOCALLY THE BEST. YOU CANNOT ARGUE WITH WHAT HE WAS ABLE TO DO. >> I THINK THERE WAS A REAL DEBATE LAST SEASON. I HAVE TO ASK YOU ABOUT A NAME THAT IS SCREAMING AT ME FROM THIS BIG BOARD. KOBE SANDERS FROM NEVADA. 10TH ON THE BOARD. WE HAVE JOKED ABOUT THIS. WE WILL WATCH WHATEVER GAME IS STILL ON. NEVADA WAS ON OF OUR FAVORITES. SANDERS WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS WHY. HE HAS AWESOME SKILL FOR THE SIZE THAT HE HAS. AN ENORMOUS GUARD. TAKE ME THREE YOU WHAT YOU THINK OF IT. CARTER: HE HAS THE BODY. HE IS 6’7″, 200 POUNDS. YOU CAN KINDA PLUG HIM INTO BE THAT. THE MARTIN TWINS. HE COULD BE IN THAT SAME ROLE WITH HIS BODY TYPE IN THE WAY HE TAKES EVERY BIT OF THE BOX SCORE. THEY WILL BENEFIT FROM GETTING HIM IN THIS SECOND ROUND. GREG: YOU ATTEMPTED TO TAMPER WITH MAXIME RAYNAUD AT POINTS. CARTER: I TRIED TO TAMPER WITH EVERYBODY. JAMIR WATKINS. HE WAS MY SWEETHEART AT POINTS. ULTIMATELY HE ENDED UP FINISHING HIS CAREER AT FLORIDA STATE. HE WAS RUMORED TO COLLEGE, MAYBE GET ONE EXTRA YEAR OF ELIGIBILITY. IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR SIZE ON THE WING, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR IMMEDIATE IMPACT DEFENSIVELY, BUT A GUY THAT CAN ALSO COME AS YOU SEE, KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME ISOLATION, PROCESS THE GAME. JUST A PHYSICAL SPECIMEN. HE’S AN NBA SIZED WING IMMEDIATELY. I LIKE JAMIR WATKINS QUITE A BIT. IT’S NICE TO SEE HIM ON THE BIG BOARD. AS FAR AS JAMIR WATKINS GOES, HOW ARE THESE TOO EARLY FOR HIM? COULD WE SEE HIM NEXT COUPLE PICKS OR IS THAT A STRETCH? JONATHAN: IT SHOULDN’T BE BECAUSE I WISH I HAD HIM HIGHER. HE IS SOMEBODY I HAVE LIKED SINCE EARLY LAST YEAR. I LOVE THE ARCHETYPE. WHO DOESN’T LOVE A GUY WHO IS 6’7″ WITH A BUILD LIKE HIS WHO CAN ALSO PLAY POINT WING AND BE YOUR LEAD PLAYMAKER? HE DOES NOT PUT UP EFFICIENT SHOOTING NUMBERS FROM BEHIND THE ARC BUT 1.7 THREES PER GAME THIS YEAR. HE HAS IMPROVED HIS SHOTMAKING. I LOVE THE PARTICULAR VERSATILITY THAT HE BRINGS TO THE TABLE. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 33 AND 37 ON THAT BOARD IS NOTHING. IF I AM A TEAM THAT HAS A NEED FOR A PATHWAY FOR A PROSPECT TO COME IN AND PLAY MINUTES AT THE WING SPOT, THEN WATKINS PROBABLY JUMPS UP A COUPLE SPOTS ON MY BOARD. I’M A BIG FAN AND THINK HE SHOULD BE ONE OF THE TOP 10 PICKS. GREG: SO IT WARRANTS REMINDING THAT WE HAVE SEEN HALL OF FAME LEVEL PLAYERS COME OFF THE BOARD IN THE SECOND ROUND OF THE NBA DRAFT. DRAYMOND GREEN, GUYS THAT CAME OFF IN THE SECOND ROUND AND HELPED CONTRIBUTE TO DYNASTIES. I AM LOOKING AT THIS BOARD. THE NEXT TEAMS THAT ARE DRAFTING. THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES, PHOENIX, THE BOSTON CELTICS, THE 76ERS, ARE TEAMS THAT PLAN TO COMPETE. YOU CAN FIND PIECES IN THE SECOND ROUND THAT WILL ULTIMATELY CONTRIBUTE IMMEDIATELY TO WINNING THE PLAYOFF SERIES. I WANT TO PLAY MATCHMAKER. WE KNOW RASHEER FLEMING IS ABOUT TO COME OFF THE BOARD HERE IS THE FIRST PICK OF THE SECOND ROUND BUT WE HAVE BOSTON ON THE CLOCK AT 32. WE HAVE TWO PICKS FOR CHARLOTTE UNTIL WE HEAR NEWS THAT MAY BE ONE GETS MOVED. IF YOU WERE DRAFTING ON BEHALF OF BOSTON OR YOU WANT TO ADVANCE INTO THE CHARLOTTE PICKS, THAT’S FINE, WHO ARE SOME NAMES THAT MAKE SENSE? CARTER: I DON’T WANT TO SKIP AHEAD TO CHARLOTTE BUT IF THEY COULD SOMEHOW GET MAXIME RAYNAUD IN THAT SPOT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT TEAM TO BRING SOME FRONTCOURT DEPTH. LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL STARTING LINEUP FOR THEM NEXT YEAR, WHO THEY HAVE UNDER CONTRACT, THEY NEED SOME BIGS WITH SOME VERSATILITY. YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THE SECOND ROUND. THERE’S A LOT OF TEAMS THAT COULD USE GUYS THAT ARE READY TO PLAY NOW. LOOKING AT THE BIG BOARD, THERE’S A LOT OF 22-YEAR-OLDS, 23-YEAR-OLDS, GUYS WHO COULD PLAY NOW AND THERE DOES NOT NEED TO BE A LEARNING CURVE THAT YOU ARE MAYBE BUYING ON THEIR CEILING A LITTLE BIT. THESE ARE PLAYERS THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE RIGHT AWAY. GREG: MINNESOTA IS OFFICIALLY ON THE CLOCK. THIS PIC WILL GO TO PHOENIX. OUR CLOCK HAS STARTED. WE EXPECT THIS TO BE RASHEER FLEMING. WE WILL ANNOUNCE THAT AS SOON AS IT IS OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCED IN A MOMENT. WASS, TO YOU NEXT. LET’S ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION. BOSTON, UPCOMING. TWO PICKS FOR CHARLOTTE. WHAT ARE SOME PIX THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE? JONATHAN: WHAT ABOUT RYAN CALL PRINTER — RYAN CALL PRINTER — YOU KIND OF NEED ANOTHER GUY IN THERE. RAYNAUD IS THE OBVIOUS ONE BUT WE TALKED ABOUT HIM ALREADY. I THINK HE’S A BETTER DEFENSIVE PROSPECT. VERY GOOD IN PICK AND ROLL COVERAGE. HE COULD JUST BECOME A REGULAR THREAT FROM BEHIND THE ARC. I SEE A LOT OF BROOK LOPEZ IN HIS MOVEMENT, THE WAY HE OPERATES. BUT I THINK IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THREE BALL UNLOCKS A LOT OF UPSIDE AND IS THE KEY TO HIM BECOMING A VALUABLE, EVEN STARTING CALIBER PLAYER, BUT ONE OF THE MOST PRODUCTIVE COLLEGE PLAYERS OVER THE LAST TEAM FLOW OF YEARS, OFFENSIVELY, DEFENSE OF LEAGUE. HE NEVER MISSES, PARTICULARLY WHEN HE IS INSIDE 10 FEET. AND SO I THINK HE’S GOT A PRETTY CLEAR PATH TO A BACKUP ROLE. >> HE’S A SUPREMELY EFFICIENT COLLEGE CENTER. AT TIMES WE FELT LIKE HE WAS CAPABLE OF CARRYING MORE OF THE SCORING LOAD FOR CREIGHTON AT TIMES, BUT HE REALLY DID DEVELOP AN GOT BETTER AS A SHOOTER. HE GOT MORE AGGRESSIVE AND MORE COMFORTABLE BEING THAT GO TO PRIMARY OPTION FOR CREIGHTON, SO I AGREE. THAT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC FIT. AS I LOOK AT THESE UPCOMING PICKS, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST NIGHT, BUT THE BIGGEST STORY OF NIGHT ONE WAS GENERAL MANAGERS WITH A VISION FOR WHAT THEY HOPED TO ACCOMPLISH AND MAYBE IF IT EVEN FELT LIKE THEY MADE SOME PICKS THAT WERE REDUNDANT, THEY WERE GOING TO EXECUTE ON SOME OF THESE — OF THAT VISION. WE HAVE TWO PICKS FOR CHARLOTTE COMING UP. I AM STARING AT THE BIG BOARD. ICIER CHAZ LANIER. IF CHARLOTTE WANTS TO GO ALL IN ON GRABBING THE BEST SHOOTERS THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANOTHER PLAYER TO THAT MIX. THAT LEADS US TO THE 31ST PICK IN THE DRAFT. PHOENIX HAS MADE THEIR SELECTION. THE PICK IS IN AT 31. WE EXPECT THIS TO BE RASHEER FLEMING. LET’S SEE IF WE ARE CORRECT. YES, WE ARE. PHOENIX WILL SELECT SAINT JOE’S FORWARD RASHEER FLEMING AT NUMBER 31. JEFF GOODMAN NOTES FLEMING HAS HIGH UP — HIGH UPSIDE AND AN IMPROVED PERIMETER SHOT. I WOULD SAY HE IS A STEAL AT 31. CARTER: HE IS. HE HAS GREAT MEASURABLES, 6’8″, DOES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. PLAYING THIS YEAR, HIS ABILITY TO STRETCH THE FLOOR ENTICED TEAMS AND HE KEPT GETTING BUZZ,’S GOING THE SKILL SETS HE HAD — BUZZ, SHOWING THE SKILL SET HE HAD. THEY ARE BANKING ON HIM BEING ABLE TO CONTINUE THE DEVELOPMENT. THE SIZE AND WINGSPAN IS THERE. EVERYTHING IS THERE. THIS IS GOOD VALUE FOR THEM. WASS, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS PICK? JONATHAN: THIS IS AN OBVIOUS BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE TYPE OF GUY. A LOT OF TEAMS HAVE IN THE FIRST ROUND — I HAD TEAMS TELLING ME HE’S RISING. THE DRAFT IS A CRAZY EVENT WHERE A GUY IS RISING AND HE’S PICKED IN THE SECOND ROUND. HOW COULD YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS PICK? IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST DRAFT I DID IN OCTOBER, I HAD HIM AT 34, SO I WAS NOT SO FAR OFF. THE ARCHETYPE IS VERY VALUABLE. HE IS A 6’9″ STRETCH FORWARD WHO SHOT NEARLY 40%. HE WAS 39% FROM THREE. IT’S A VERY SIMPLE PROJECTION. YOU HAVE A GUY WHO IS 6’9″, GOOD BUILD, 7’5″ WINGSPAN, 39% FROM THREE. YOU WILL ASK HIM TO HAVE A SIMPLIFIED ROLE. STRETCH THE FLOOR, MAKE YOUR THREES NBA BEAST AROUND THE BASKET AS A DESK THREES AND BE A BEAST AROUND THE BASKET AS A FINISHER. HE ONLY AVERAGED 1.3 ASSISTS IN 31 MINUTES. HE’S NOT GOING TO BE A PLAYMAKER. HE HAS A SIMPLE JOB AND I THINK THE TWO THINGS HE DOES WELL, FINISHING AND SHOOTING, SHOULD TRANSLATE FOR HIM, SO I GOOD PICK — A GOOD PICK, A GUY I CAN BELIEVE CAN PLAY RIGHT AWAY WITH THOSE TOOLS. AND A JUMP SHOT THAT NOT JUST THE NUMBERS SAY IS GOOD BUT LOOKING AT THE EYE TEST HE HAS GOOD FORM AND NICE FLUIDITY FROM BEHIND THE ARC. GREG: A FRAME YOU DON’T OFTEN SEE. HE WILL NOT BE OVERWHELMED BY NBA SIZE AND ATHLETICISM. WHAT IS YOUR COMP FOR FLEMING? JONATHAN: I BELIEVE I PICKED TAYLOR HENDRICKS. THERE SCOUTING REPORTS ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL. YOU SEE FLEMING WITH THE LONGER WINGSPAN. I GUESS HENDRIX >> — I GUESS HENDRICKS MAY BE A BETTER ATHLETE BUT THEY DO THE SAME THING. THESE GUYS PROJECT TO HAVE SIMILAR ROLES. THEY WILL NOT BE GO TO GUYS IN YOUR OFFENSE. YOU’RE NOT GOING TO FEATURE THEM. THEY WILL BE VALUABLE COMPLEMENT OR HE PLAYERS WHO BRING SOME DEFENSIVE VERSATILITY, SOME ROOM PROTECTION AND SPACING AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU EASY BUCKETS. FOR A TEAM LIKE PHOENIX, I CANNOT PICTURE THEIR EXACT DEPTH CHART, BUT I BELIEVE THEY COULD USE A PLAYER JUST LIKE HIM. GREG: YOU LOOK AT WHAT PHOENIX HAS DONE LAST NIGHT TO TONIGHT. WILLIAMS WAS ACQUIRED. THEY BASICALLY BOLSTER THEIR CENTER SPOT. RASHEER FLEMING IN THE FRONTCOURT. WE JOKED ABOUT HOW THEY HAD A SURPLUS OF SHOOTING GUARDS. THEY HAVE DRAFTED NICELY, COMPLEMENTARY PIECES THAT CAN PLAY RIGHT AWAY. CARTER: YEAH. GET A VALUABLE MAIN MAN IN THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN GET A WING LIKE RASHEER FLEMING. I LIKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. THIS IS A TEAM WITH A VISION. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. I THINK IT WILL WORK OUT FOR THEM. GREG: I HATE TO CUT YOU OFF. YOU KNOW THIS IS MY LEAST FAVORITE THING TO DO ON PLANET EARTH BUT I AM HEARING NEWS WE HAVE AN UPDATE FROM JAKE FISHER. DO WE HAVE A TRADE? JAKE: WE DO HAVE A TRADE. REGRETFULLY I HAVE A TYPO BUT THE NUMBER 32 PICK IS BEING DEALT FROM THE CELTICS TO THE MAGIC TO SELECT NOAH PENDA. THE MAGIC ARE MOVING UP FROM NUMBER 46 AND TRADING THEIR 57TH PICK AS WELL, SO IT’S A BIG PRICE TO PAY. IT’S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN I THINK PHOENIX GAVE UP TO GET FROM 31 TO 36 BUT IT’S A BIGGER JUMP. THE WORD I AM GETTING IS THAT BOSTON REALLY DID LIKE RASHEER FLEMING THEMSELVES AT 32, WHICH IS WHAT INFLUENCED PHOENIX TO MOVE UP AND TAKE RASHEER FLEMING, AND AFTER IT CAME OUT THAT THAT WAS THE TARGET, BOSTON SENT OUT WORD TO THE LEAGUE THAT THEY ARE — THAT THEY WERE SHOPPING THE PICK AND THEY FEEL THERE’S A LOT OF INTEREST BUT IT IS NOW THE ORLANDO MAGIC WHO WERE TAKING THAT SLOT, AND LIKE I SAID AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW, I WOULD BE SHOCKED IF ONE OF THESE NEXT TWO PICKS FOR CHARLOTTE DOES NOT GET MOVED AS WELL, SO WE ALREADY HAVE THE TOP TWO PICKS IN THE SECOND ROUND GETTING MOVED. WE WILL PROBABLY HAVE THREE OF THE TOP FOUR AND THEN THAT 36TH PICK ALREADY TRADED. WE WILL SEE MINNESOTA MOVE DOWN FROM 31. 46, 50 SECOND AND TWO FUTURE SEC. IS THE PRICE POINT HERE. KEEP IN MIND THAT THESE ARE WHAT CHARLOTTE WILL BE LOOKING AT, WHAT PHILLY WILL BE LOOKING AT 35. BASICALLY, YOU’RE GOING TO NEED A PICK LATER. IT’S BEEN TWO LATER PICKS IN THIS DRAFT AND TWO FUTURE SEC.. THAT’S BEEN THE PRICE. CHARLOTTE AT 33 AND 34. WE ARE DEFINITELY MONITORING FOR ONE OF THESE PICKS TO MOVE AS WELL. GREG: THE MARKET HAS BEEN SET IF YOU ARE TRYING TO MOVE UP AND WE CAN OFFICIALLY ANNOUNCE IT IS NOAH PENDA WHO HAS BEEN SELECTED AT 32 OVERALL. HE WILL GO TO ORLANDO AFTER THEY ACQUIRED THE 32ND PICLS FROM — PICK FROM THE CELTICS. HE HELPED FRANCE WIN THE GOLD MEDAL AT THE EURO BASKET EVENT IN 2024, AVERAGED 12-9. A GUY — WE JUST TALKED ABOUT RASHEER FLEMING — NOAH PENDA, 242 POUNDS AT 6’7″, CAN PLAY THE THREE AND FOUR. I’M CURIOUS TO SEE HOW THE IMPACT ORLANDO IMMEDIATELY. HE HAS THE GAME THAT HE COULD PLAY RIGHT AWAY. YOU COULD GO THE DEVELOPMENT ROUTE WITH HIM AS WELL. WASS, WHAT IS YOUR GRADE FOR NOAH PENDA AT 32? JONATHAN: HE WAS A TRENDING PROSPECT THROUGHOUT THE SECOND HALF OF THE YEAR. I COULD SEE WHY. YOU KNOW, HE BRINGS A VERY UNIQUE DIMENSION AND VERSATILITY. WE TALKED ABOUT HIS MEASUREMENTS. HE ALMOST LOOKS MORE LIKE A TIGHT END THAN A BASKETBALL PLAYER. BUT WITH THAT BODY TYPE AT 242 POUNDS, LET’S TALK ABOUT THE ANALYTICS HERE. 15% ASSIST PERCENTAGE, WHICH IS PRETTY SOLID FOR A GUY LIKE THAT, 2.5% STEEL PERCENTAGE, 2.7% BLOCK PERCENTAGE. HE WAS A PLAYMAKER. HE PASSED WELL. HE FINISHED WELL. HE WAS NOT REALLY A GO TO GUY IN ANYBODY’S OFFENSE BUT HE WAS A CONNECTOR PIECE, COULD DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING WITHOUT HAVING A CORE STRENGTH. I WILL GIVE THIS A B+ AT 32. I WILL BE NICE IN THE SECOND ROUND. I WILL NOT GIVE ANYBODY A BAD GRADE THIS LATE IN THE DRAFT, BUT I CAN SEE WHY TEAMS LIKE — I’M AM A LITTLE BIT HESITANT TO SEE A PATHWAY TO UPSIDE WITHOUT HAVING ANY PLUS STRENGTH, BUT HE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING, AND I THINK HE HAS THE CHANCE TO BE A NICE PLAYMAKER. I THINK YOU WILL HAVE MORE VALUE ON THE DEFENSIVE SIDE OF THE BALL THAN OFFENSE. CARTER: THAT DEFENSIVE VERSATILITY WILL GO A LONG WAY WITHOUT MAGIC TEAM. YOU ALWAYS NEED SOMEBODY THAT CAN CHECK A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE NBA GAME TODAY. ARE THERE ANY PLAYER COMPARISONS THAT COME TO YOU WITH PENDA? JONATHAN: NICHOLAS BATUM. THERE IS THE FRENCH CONNECTION THERE. IT IS KIND OF THE SAME IDEA. A GUY WHO DOES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. ‘S, HE WILL DEFEND. YOU HOPE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE THE OPEN SHOT. HE CAN MAKE THE SPOT UP 3’S. HE IS A CONNECTOR PIECE WHO WILL BE ABLE TO GUARD A COUPLE DIFFERENT POSITIONS. YOU HOPE YOU CAN SURROUND HIM WITH BETTER CREATORS AND BETTER SHOOTERS. GREG: FROM ONE JUMBO WING TO ANOTHER. BACK ON THE CLOCK, WE HAVE THE CHARLOTTE HORNETS WITH TWO CONSECUTIVE PICKS AT 33 AND 34. JAKE FISCHER ALLUDES TO THE IDEA THAT MAYBE CHARLOTTE WILL MOVE ONE OF THESE PICKS. IT WILL NOT BE A SURPRISE IF CHARLOTTE MAKES A MOVE. FOR NOW, CHARLOTTE ON THE CLOCK AT 33, AGAIN ON THE CLOCK AT 34. WHAT IS THEIR BIGGEST NEED? CARTER: THEY PICKED UP TWO SHOOTERS IN THE FIRST ROUND, GUYS WHO ROLES ARE VERY CLEAR. RANGE FROM EVERYWHERE ON THE COURT. THEY COULD USE HIM. TYRESE PROCTOR, YOU COULD LOOK AT HIM AS A GUY WHO COULD BE IN A BACKUP GUARD ROLE NEXT TO LAMELO BALL. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THE HORNETS STICK WITH THE SAME MOLD IN THE FIRST ROUND, TAKING SAFE FLOOR, GOOD SHOOTERS. GOOD TEAM GUYS. GREG: READ TO CULTURE. WASS, WHAT ARE YOU SEEING? WHAT IS THE BEST MATCH FOR CHARLOTTE? JONATHAN: I LIKE JAMIR WATKINS. GET YOURSELF A TOUGH WING DEFENDER. I AM A BIG JAVON SMALL FAN, TOO. I THINK THEY RELY ON LAMELO BALL FOR CREATION. MAY BE GET YOURSELF A BACKUP BALL HANDLER. THIERO WILL BE IN THE COMBINATION AND A TRADE UP TARGET FOR ANOTHER TEAM. I AM WITH JAKE. I CANNOT IMAGINE THEY MAKE TWO PICKS BACK TO BACK. HE COULD BE A TRADE UP GUY. GREG: WE HAVE WORD THE PICK IS IN FOR CHARLOTTE AT 33. THEY HAVE SELECTED SION JAMES OUT OF DUKE. WE JUST DISCUSSED THE BROTHERHOOD, TYRESE PROCTOR AS A DAM THAT COULD COME OFF THE BOARD. IT IS A DIFFERENT BLUE DEVIL, SION JAMES. HE ONLY PLAYED ONE YEAR BUT HE WAS A LEADER. THEY ADDED A SMALLER PACKAGE. I SEE THE VISION HERE WITH WHAT CHARLOTTE IS TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER. I THINK SION HE IS A GREAT ADDITION. CARTER: I DO NOT WANT TO THROW MYSELF OUT THERE TOO EARLY BUT I LOVE WHAT THE HORNETS ARE DOING. THEY HAVE A LOT OF PLAYERS LIKE LAMELO BALL, BRANDON MILLER WHO CAN SCORE THE BASKETBALL. THROUGH THIS DRAFT, THEY ARE FEELING NEEDS LIKE SHOOTING. SION JAMES WILL LOCK UP THE BEST PLAYER. HE IS BUILT LIKE A LINEBACKER. HE IS A GUY YOU PLUG AND PLAY RIGHT AWAY WHO CAN HELP THIS HORNETS TEAM. IT IS A GOOD PICK FOR THEM. I’M INTERESTED TO SEE YOUR GRADE. JONATHAN: THIS IS MUCH EARLIER THAN I EXPECTED HIM TO GO. I REALLY LIKE IT FOR THIS PARTICULAR TEAM. IF ANOTHER TEAM TOOK HIM I WOULD PROBABLY NOT GRADED AS FAVORABLY BUT I LOVE CHARLOTTE FAVORING A GUY LIKE JAMES WHO IS SUPER HIGH CHARACTER AND INCREDIBLY TOUGH. ANOTHER GUY WHO LOOKS LIKE HE CAN PLAY IN THE NFL TOMORROW. AT THAT SIZE TO PASS THE WHAT HE DOES — ONE BIG NUMBER THE DOES NOT SHOW UP IN THE BASIC STATS, 47% CATCH AND SHOOT. . HE CAN SPOT UP FROM BEHIND THE ARC, MOVE THE BALL AND MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. WITH THAT INCREDIBLE FRAME, HE WILL BE A DEFENSE OF BANK PRESENCE. I WILL GIVE THIS A B-PLUS. HE IS NOT THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER I HAVE EVER SEEN BUT IF YOU PUT HIM IN THE RIGHT SPOT LIKE DUKE DID TO PLAY THE GLUE GUY TYPE OF ROLE, HE CAN SUCCEED. IF 25 OTHER TEAMS TOOK HIM, I MIGHT GRADED CLOSER TO A B-MINUS OR C-PLUS BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE A TON OF UPSIDE. . GREG: HE REUNITES WITH KON. MAYBE WE TAKE TYRESE PROCTOR AT 34. WASS, WHAT IS YOUR COMP? JONATHAN: HOW ABOUT WENDELL MOORE JUNIOR? THEY DO SIMILAR THINGS. I KNOW WENDELL MOORE HAS NOT HAD A BIG NBA CAREER. I THINK THE SCOUTING REPORTS ARE SIMILAR. A SEVEN-FOOT WINGSPAN. THESE GUYS ARE BIG WINGS, PLAYMAKING WINGS. DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING BUT DO NOT HAVE A SIGNATURE STRENGTH. GREG: IF WE ARE DOING SURPRISING WINGSPAN’S IN ROUND 2, DO YOU WANT TO STAND UP? CARTER: MY MEASURABLE US WILL NEVER BE PUT ON DISPLAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT PRETTY. GREG: ARE YOU 6’7″? CARTER: ON A GOOD DAY. LET’S NOT GIVE THAT AWAY, PLEASE. GREG: CHARLOTTE IS BACK ON THE CLOCK. I HAVE NOT BEEN NOTIFIED OF ANY ADDITIONAL MOVES. LET’S SEE IF THEY MAKE THE PICK AT 34. I MADE THE JOKE ABOUT TYRESE PROCTOR POTENTIALLY BEING ANOTHER ADD BUT I WOULD NOT HATE IT IF THEY WIN THREE CONSECUTIVE DUKE PLAYERS. WHAT THEY HAVE DONE TONIGHT AND YESTERDAY IS REALLY BRINGING IN SOME GUYS WHO WILL NOT BE DEMANDING OF MEETING THE BALL WILL CONTRIBUTE, THEY ARE HIGH I.Q., HARD-WORKING PLAYERS WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT BETTER. THE COACHABILITY TROPES WE TALK ABOUT. I SEE THE FULL VISION. IF THEY WANTED TO GO UPSIDE, WASS, WHO DO YOU SEE ON THE BOARD? IF THEY SHOOT FOR THE STARS, WHAT WITH THAT PICK LOOK LIKE? JONATHAN: RIGHT NOW, THE MOST UPSIDE LEFT, A 7-FOOTER, AVERAGES 20 AND 10, SHOOTS THE 3 AND HAS THE EASIEST PATHWAY TO UPSIDE IF HE CAN EVER MAKE A 3-POINTER OR HAVE THAT BECOME A REGULAR PART OF HIS GAME, I LIKE KAM JONES. I AM SURE HE WILL GET PICKED SOON. REALLY IMPROVED PLAYMAKER. A LOT OF THESE GUYS, SECOND ROUND, YOU ARE HOPING TO FIND SOMEONE WHO COULD BE A SEVENTH OR EIGHTH MAN. GREG: THE PICK IS IN FOR THE CHARLOTTE HORNETS AT 34. LET’S SEE IF THEY GO UPSIDE OR CONTINUE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. THERE YOU HAVE IT. UNABLE HE MENTIONED. THE CHARLOTTE HORNETS ARE SELECTING RYAN KALKBRENNER WITH THE 34TH PICK IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. I LOVED WATCHING KALK GET BETTER AND BETTER OVER HIS CREIGHTON CAREER. HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST RIM PROTECTING CENTERS. THE DAWG, AGGRESSIVE, ALPHA MENTALITY HE ADDED BY THE TIME HE LEFT CREIGHTON WAS ENJOYABLE TO SEE. WASS, WHAT IS YOUR GRADE FOR RYAN KALKBRENNER AT 34 TO THE HORNETS? JONATHAN: THIS IS A GOOD PICK. A GOOD PICK FOR THIS PARTICULAR TEAM. THEY TRADED MARK WILLIAMS. KALKBRENNER IS AN NBA READY GUY BASED ON HOW MANY YEARS HE PLAYED IN COLLEGE. HE WILL NOT BE A GO TO GUY LIKE HE WAS AT CREIGHTON BUT HE IS VERY SKILLED AROUND THE BASKET. REALLY STRONG. DEFENSE OF BANK I.Q. TO GO WITH THE DEFENSE — TO GO WITH THE DEFENSIVE TOOLS. I AM GOOD WITH THIS PICK HE FITS A NEED. IF HE IS ABLE TO START HITTING 3’S, YOU KEEP SEEING THE FLASHES. IF THEY CAN MAKE THESE REGULAR OCCURRENCES IN HIS GAME. THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING AND HE BECOMES A FIRST ROUND VALUE. I AM INTO IT. GREG: YOU ADD THESE FOUR GUYS TOGETHER, IT HAS THE SOUND OF A COLLEGE BASKETBALL ALL-STAR GAME. CARTER: A LOT OF HIGH-LEVEL GUYS. RYAN KALKBRENNER, FOUR-TIME DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR IN THE BIG EAST. WASS, WHO IS A PLAYER COMP FOR YOU ON RYAN KALKBRENNER? JONATHAN: MY PLAYER COMP IS NOT OVERLY EXCITING. I THINK IT IS CASTLETON. THAT IS MORE OF A REALISTIC COMP . A GUY WHO I THOUGHT COULD BE A BACKUP CENTER. HE WILL GIVE YOU SOME EASY BUCKETS IN PLACE OF LOW POST OFFENSE. BLOCK SOME SHOTS. NOBODY WHO SCREAMS ALL-STAR CENTER. THERE IS A PATHWAY IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT BEST CASE SCENARIO. HE MOVES A LOT LIKE BROOK LOPEZ. IF HE CAN START MAKING 3’S THE WAY LOPEZ DID — LOPEZ WAS NOT A BIG-TIME 3-POINT SHOOTER OUT OF STANFORD. EVERYTHING CHANGES. REALISTICALLY IN THE BEGINNING OF HIS CAREER, COLIN CASTLETON. A SKILLED CENTER WHO COULD PLAY AT BOTH ENDS. GREG: THE PHILADELPHIA 76ERS ARE ON THE CLOCK AT 35. WE WILL CHECK BACK IN WITH MR. JAKE FISCHER. WHAT IS GOING ON? JAKE: THE HORNETS WANTED TO TRADE ONE OF THESE PIX BUT THEY STICK THERE AND TAKE RYAN KALKBRENNER. KALKBRENNER WAS IN PLAY AT NUMBER 32 WITH BOSTON AND THEY TRADED DOWN AND THAT CLEARED THE WAY FOR THE HORNETS TO TAKE HIM. KALKBRENNER TO MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT HAVE BEEN PHOENIX’S NUMBER 1 GUY ON THEIR BOARD AT 29 LAST NIGHT. THAT 29TH PICK WENT TO CHARLOTTE. IF THAT IS NOT AN EXAMPLE OF THE MUSICAL CHAIRS THAT IS THE NBA DRAFT, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS. RYAN KALKBRENNER WAS IN HIS RANGE. PEOPLE IN THE LEAGUE THOUGHT HE WOULD NOT GET PAST PHILADELPHIA AT 35. GREG: THANK YOU, JAKE. TIMING IS EVERYTHING. APPARENTLY TIMING WAS OFF. I DO NOT THINK CHARLOTTE IS COMPLAINING BASED ON WHAT THEY JUST ADDED. WE MOVED TO 35. THE SIXERS ARE BACK ON THE CLOCK. IF YOU REMEMBER BACK TO LAST NIGHT, WE SAID THE DRAFT STARTED WITH 3 WITH PHILADELPHIA WITH RUMORS THEY LOOK TO MOVE THAT PICK. INSTEAD THEY STAYED HOME AND SELECTED VJ EDGECOMBE. AS JAKE JUST ALLUDED TO, I THINK THE BIGGEST NEED AT THIS POINT IS PROBABLY IN THE FRONTCOURT. MAXIME RAYNAUD IS SCREAMING BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT. CARTER: YOU CANNOT ARGUE WITH THE PRODUCTIVITY. HE HAS THE SIZE, THE SHOOTING, THE PRODUCTION IS SUSTAINED. THE 76ERS NEED SOME DEPTH IN THE FRONT COURT. YOU NEVER KNOW IF JOEL EMBIID WILL BE FULLY HEALTHY. MAXIME RAYNAUD TEND BE PLUGGED IN RIGHT AWAY. JONATHAN: IF THEY DO OPT TO GO FRONTCOURT THAT WOULD BE THE BEST AVAILABLE ANSWER. MAYBE YOU ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A SMALLER FRONTCOURT PIECE. THE BEST CENTER AVAILABLE, RAYNAUD WOULD BE MY PICK. GREG: THE SIXERS ARE GOING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THEY WILL SELECT JOHNI BROOME. WE TALKED ABOUT JOHNI AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW. THE ONLY PLAYER WHO RIVALED COOPER FLAGG. HE WAS DESERVING OF WINNING THE WOODEN AWARD. ULTIMATELY THE INJURY BUG BIT HIM. NO ONE WILL DENY HOW UNSTOPPABLE HE WAS AS A FORCE AT BOTH ENDS FOR THE TEAM. IS HE HEALTHY? WILL HE GET THE ATHLETICISM BACK FULLY? WHETHER OR NOT YOU BELIEVE THAT IS COMING, I THINK HE IS DESERVING OF A MOMENT LIKE THIS. IS THIS TOO EARLY FOR JOHNI? JONATHAN: EARLY AT 35 BUT THERE ARE OTHER GUYS I HAVE HIGHER RANK IN A VACUUM. YOU TALKED ABOUT RAYNAUD. I CERTAINLY HAD HIM RANKED HIGHER THAN BROOME. PHILLY, I THINK, REALLY WANTED AN NBA PLAYER. THERE HAVE BEEN QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOCKER ROOM AND LEADERSHIP. I WILL GIVE THIS A B-. MAD ABOUT THIS PICK — I WILL GIVE THIS A B-PLUS. I COULD NOT BE MAD ABOUT THIS PICK THIS PICK. WE HAVE SEEN HIS MATURITY INCREASE SINCE HE TRANSFERRED TO AUBURN. IF HE CAN START KNOCKING DOWN 3’S, WHICH HE STARTED TO DO, THAT IS A LAYERED TO HIS OFFENSE. IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK HIS VALUE REVOLVES AROUND SHOT-BLOCKING. SUDDENLY HIS VALUE COULD CHANGE SPIRIT IN THE HIGHLIGHTS, HE HIT SOME STEPBACK 3’S. HE HAS TRIED TO EXPAND HIS OFFENSIVE REPERTOIRE. I THINK THERE IS NO DOUBT PHILLY HAS JUST GOTTEN A PLAYER THEY CAN USE RIGHT AWAY NEXT YEAR. CARTER: DEFINITELY A GUY WHO IS HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE. THE 76ERS MIGHT BE FEELING THE FRONTCOURT DEPTH AND TRAINING ROOM DEPTH. WHO IS A GOOD PLAYER COMP? JONATHAN: MARKIEFF MORRIS. THAT IS THE TYPE OF ROLE PLAYER YOU WERE LOOKING AT. PLACE INSIDE AND OUT. NOT TO GUY, NOTHING FLASHY ABOUT HIS GAME BUT A HARD-NOSED RESERVE BIG GUY. IF HE CAN START MAKING SHOTS LIKE THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, HE HAS A CHANCE TO BE A STARTING CALIBER PLAYER. I AM SURE MARKIEFF MORRIS HAS STARTED PLENTY OF NBA GAMES. DEPENDING ON THE REST OF THE GUYS IN THE LINEUP, THERE IS A PATHWAY FOR BROOME TO BE A STARTING BIG MAN IF HE CAN BECOME A STRETCH 4. THIS COMPARISON REVOLVES AROUND THEIR TOUGHNESS AND STRENGTH AND THE POTENTIAL TO BE A STRETCH BIG. GREG: OUR STATS AND RESEARCH DEPARTMENT TELLS US MARKIEFF MORRIS HAS STARTED 381 GAMES. JONATHAN: I GUESS I MISSED 300. GREG: INJURY QUESTIONS WITH JOHNI. WE HAVE OUR VICES. APPARENTLY THE SIXERS LOVE FRONTCOURT STARTS WITH INJURY CONCERNS. CARTER: IT IS ALWAYS THE VISION THAT IF THEY STAY HEALTHY. IF THEY ARE ON THE FLOOR, THEY ARE PRODUCTIVE PLAYERS. JOHN I BROOME LAST YEAR WHEN HE WAS ON THE FLOOR AND HEALTHY, HE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS HURTING A LITTLE BIT. IF HE IS FULLY HEALTHY, HE CAN CONTRIBUTE. THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE HE IS GOOD. GREG: OK. TO THE 36TH PICK. THIS IS BROOKLYN ON THE CLOCK. BUT WE HAVE A TRADE. I BELIEVE THIS PICK IS GOING TO GO TO THE LAKERS. YES, IT IS. THE LAKERS HAVE ACQUIRED THE 36TH PICK IN THE NBA DRAFT. I BELIEVE THE PICK IS IN, AS WELL. THE LAKERS WILL BE SELECTING ADOU THIERO AT 36. THERE YOU HAVE IT. THE LAKERS ARE TAKING ADOU THIERO. THE PICK WAS ORIGINALLY TRADED FROM THE NETS TO THE SUNS TO MINNESOTA. IS FEELS LIKE THE RIGHT GENERAL RANGE FOR HIM? YOU SAW HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF PICKS WASS’ BEST AVAILABLE. THE CONSTANT FOR THE RAZORBACKS WAS MR. ADOU THIERO. CARTER: THEY ARE GETTING A HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE PLAYER. HE IS AN ELITE ATHLETE. IF ADOU THIERO SHOWED ANY CONSISTENCY FROM THE THREE-POINT LINE I THINK HE IS EASILY A FIRST ROUND PICK. HE HAS THE SIZE AND VERSATILITY. ARKANSAS NEEDED SOME VETERAN LEADERSHIP AND SOME VETERAN SCORING. I LOVE THIS FIT FOR HIM. HE CAN DO SOME THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE LAKERS RIGHT AWAY. ADDING A VERSATILE PLAYER NEXT TO THE STARS THEY HAVE CAN GO A LONG WAY. YOU CANNOT ARGUE WITH WHAT ADOU THIERO CAN BRING TO THIS TEAM. JONATHAN: THIS IS A GOOD PICK THIS LATE. THERE WERE POINTS DURING THE SEASON WHEN HE WAS CLOSE TO THE LATE LOTTERY IN MY MOCK DRAFTS. THEN HE GOT HURT AND NEVER GOT TO SHOW THE IMPROVED SHOOTING, WHICH IS WHAT EVERY SCOUT WANTED TO SEE. I DID THINK YOU MADE IMPROVEMENTS WITH HIS CREATION, FINDING DIFFERENT WAYS TO SCORE, NOT JUST RELYING ON ATHLETICISM. THIS IS AN A FOR ME. TO GET HIM THIS LATE –ONE LITTLE THING UNLOCKS A LOT OF UPSIDE. IF YOU CAN BECOME AN EVEN AVERAGE 3-POINT SHOOTER, HIS ATHLETIC ABILITY MATES A LOT HAPPENED AT BOTH ENDS OF THE FLOOR — ATHLETIC ABILITY MAKES A LOT HAPPENED AT EACH END OF THE FLOOR. I DO THINK HE GOT BETTER THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF HIS SKILL LEVEL. SCORING IN THE MIDRANGE. PHYSICALLY, ATHLETICALLY. I HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPARISON. IF THIERO CAN START KNOCKING DOWN SPOT UP 3’S, EVERYTHING CHANGES FOR HIM AND HE BECOMES A VALUABLE PLAYER. GREG: WASS, WHAT IS YOUR ACTUAL COMP FOR ADOU THIERO? JONATHAN: I THINK KELDON JOHNSON. WHEN HE FIRST CAME INTO THE LEAGUE OUT OF KENTUCKY, HIS BREAD AND BUTTER WAS ATTACKING. USING THE ATHLETICISM AND PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE RIM. EVENTUALLY BECAME AN OK 3-POINT SHOOTER. THAT IS THE HOPE WITH ADOU THIERO. THEIR GAMES REVOLVE AROUND THEIR BODIES, EXPLOSIVENESS AND THE PRESSURE THEY PUT ON OPPONENTS. GREG: OUR DETROIT PISTONS ARE ON THE CLOCK. I SAY “OUR” BECAUSE CARTER AND I ARE MICHIGANDERS. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PICK IS IN. DO YOU HAVE ANY LAST-SECOND DREAMS? ANY WISHES? CARTER: I JUST WANT TO BE HAPPY. I THINK THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS TO MAKE US HAPPY. I WILL SAY MAXIME RAYNAUD ONCE AGAIN. CHAZ LANIER IS AVAILABLE. WASS, YOUR BIG BOARD IS SPEAKING TO ME. I DO NOT WANT TO JINX IT AND SAY THEY CANNOT MESS IT UP BUT THERE ARE SOME GOOD OPTIONS. GREG: YOU HAVE BEEN FLIRTING WITH MAXIME RAYNAUD FOR YEARS. OK. THE PISTONS WILL SELECT CHAZ LANIER WITH THE NUMBER 30 SEVEN PICK IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. THIS IS THE NUMBER 1 PLAYER ON WASS’ BIG BOARD. ONE OF THE BEST BUCKET-GETTERS IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. CARTER: I LOVE GUYS WHO PUT THE ORANGE THING IN THE 10-FOOT BIN. 6’5″, HIGH VOLUME 3-POINT SHOOTER AND HIGH-VOLUME 3-POINT MAKER. IN MORE THAN EXCEEDED WHAT PEOPLE WANTED HIM TO BE. WASS, PLEASE GIVE ME A GOOD GRADE. GIVE ME THAT A. JONATHAN: I LOVE THIS PICK. A QUICK FUNNY BACK STORY. JANUARY OF LAST SEASON, I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH AND I FOUND THIS KID FROM NORTH FLORIDA PUTTING UP BIG NUMBERS AND I’M WATCHING THE FILM AND I AM LIKE, WHO IS THIS GUY? I SENT HIM A DM ON TWITTER TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT HIM. WHEN IS YOUR BIRTHDAY? HE GAVE ME HIS INFO. HE BLOWS UP AND GOES TO TENNESSEE. THIS IS AN A-PLUS FOR ME. I THINK HE HAS THE RIGHT MENTALITY. HE WILL NOT BE A 20 POINT SCORE IN THE NBA BUT HE WILL HAVE A LONG NBA CAREER JUST DOING WHAT HE DOES AND THAT IS MAKING SHOTS. NOT JUST SPOT UP STUFF. HE WAS ONE OF THE TOP FIVE OFFSCREEN SCORES FROM SYNERGY SPORTS. HE CAN GET YOU A BUCKET WITHOUT NEEDING A TON OF DRIBBLES. HE CAN SHOOT OFF THE BOUNCE. HE WILL BE SUCH A PLUG-AND-PLAY GUY IN DETROIT’S SYSTEM AND THEY JUST ADDED A BUCKET-GETTER WHO WILL STRETCH THE FLOOR AND SOMEONE WHO CAN CATCH FIRE AND HIT YOU FIVE 3’S A GAME. GREG: ALL I EVER WANTED WAS A WASSERMAN A-PLUS. MY GRANDCHILDREN WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS. LET ME BE A FANBOY. WE JUST WATCHED OUR DETROIT PISTONS FINALLY MAKE IT BACK TO THE PLAYOFFS AND WE BELIEVE THEY HAVE A GUY WHO CAN LEAD THEM TO AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP, CADE CUNNINGHAM. YOU NEED GUYS LIKE THIS WHO ARE PERFECTLY COMPLEMENTARY. THEY RAN INTO WALLS IN THE POSTSEASON. VERY UP AND DOWN IN ROCKY. A LITTLE MORE UPSIDE TO POTENTIALLY HELP CADE CUNNINGHAM GET TO WHERE HE HOPES TO LEAD THIS TEAM. WHAT IS YOUR COMP? JONATHAN: I HAVE MALIK BEASLEY AS HIS COMP FROM DAY 1 OF THIS SEASON. IF THAT IS THE EXACT TYPE OF PLAYER HE WILL BE. 20 POUNDS STRONGER. PROMISING TO NOTE FROM A DEFENSIVE PERSPECTIVE. ALSO HAD A 6’9″ WINGSPAN, WHICH IS AWESOME FOR A 6’4″ GUARD. MORE REASON FOR ME TO BELIEVE HE WILL STICK IN THE LEAGUE AS A 3 AND D GUARD. LET HIM CATCH AND SHOOT, RUN OFF SCREENS. ALL HE NEEDS IS ONE INCH TO KNOCK DOWN JUMPERS. THAT IS THE TYPE OF GUY OUR MAN, CHAZ LANIER, WILL BE IN THE NBA. GREG: IT FEELS GOOD FOR SOMETHING GOOD TO HAPPEN. CARTER: I DID NOT KNOW IT WOULD TAKE UNTIL THE SECOND ROUND TO GET EMOTIONAL. GREG: NEXT UP IS THE SAN ANTONIO SPURS AT 38. HOWEVER, WE HAVE RECEIVED WORD THERE IS A PROPOSED TRAIT. THIS 38TH PICK IS ABOUT TO HEAD TO THE INDIANA PACERS. THE PICK IS IN. LET’S SEE WHO THE PACERS WILL BE SELECTING AT 38. ANOTHER BUCKET-GETTER. THE PACERS ARE TAKING CAM JONES WITH A 38 — THE PACERS ARE TAKING KAM JONES WITH A 38TH PICK. KAM JONES OUT OF MARQUETTE. MANY PEOPLE VIEWED HIM AS A SHOOTING SPECIALIST. HE SERVED AS MARQUETTE’S FULL-TIME POINT GUARD AND BECAME ONE OF THE MORE DYNAMIC SCORING THREATS. NEARLY SIX ASSISTS PER GAME. 40 8% FROM THE FLOOR. THIS KID IS A DECORATED ACCOMPLISHMENT GUY FROM HIS TIME AT MARQUETTE. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE HOW IT TRANSLATES AT THE NBA LEVEL. CARTER: KAM JONES HAS AMAZING FEEL OF HOW TO PLAY THE GAME. HE IS CRAFTY. HE HAS THE DECELERATION STEP. HE CAN SHOOT THE STEPBACK. A BIGGER ROLE THIS YEAR. HE STEPPED UP TO THE CHALLENGE AND HE WAS BETTER THAN HE WAS THE PREVIOUS SEASON. HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE, ALL-AMERICAN. I LOVE HIS GAME. JONATHAN: I AM A FAN. I THOUGHT INDIANA WOULD TRADE UP AND TAKE ANOTHER NEMHART BROTHER, BUT KAM JONES MAKES PLENTY OF SENSE. A BIG-TIME SHOT MAKER. THE REASON WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HIM AS A BORDERLINE FIRST-ROUND PICK IS BECAUSE OF THE IMPROVED PLAYMAKING. I THINK HE COULD PLAY AT EITHER GUARD POSITION. THE DEFINITION OF COMBO GUARD. I THINK IS VERSATILITY WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR HIM TO FIT IN. GREG: WHO IS YOUR JAKE: FOR KAM JONES? JONATHAN: I HAVE MALIK MONK. OF COURSE THERE WILL BE DIFFERENCES. AS WE GET DEEPER INTO THE SECOND ROUND, THE COMPS WILL BE TOUGHER TO MAKE. MALIK MONK WAS A SCORER MOSTLY AT KENTUCKY AND REALLY EVOLVED INTO MORE OF A SECONDARY PLAYMAKER IN THE NBA. THAT IS THE KIND OF GUY KAM JONES WILL BE. HE IS SOMEONE WHO CAN PROVIDE A SPARK OFF THE BENCH. GREG: IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE KAM JONES IN THE INDIANA SYSTEM WITH ALL THE BALL MOVEMENT AND THE UNSELFISHNESS. IT IS FASCINATING TO REMEMBER BACK TO HOW HE BLOSSOMED AS A PLAYMAKER AT MARQUETTE THIS PAST SEASON. I THINK IT WILL BE A SEAMLESS FIT. HE WAS SO UNSELFISH. THIS COULD BE AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY. YOU DO NOT WANT TO THROW THIS ON A GUY, HE WILL NOT REPLACE TYRESE HALIBURTON BUT HE IS A GUY WHO COULD SOMEWHAT STEP INTO THE VACANCY AND AT LEAST CONTRIBUTE. I THINK JOB WELL DONE BY THE PACERS. LET’S MOVE TO 39. THE TORONTO RAPTORS ARE ON THE CLOCK. YOU THINK BACK TO THE FIRST ROUND. THE RAPTORS TOOK COLLIN MURRAY-BOYLES WITH THE NIGHT SELECTION. NOW, BACK UP AT 39. WE HAVE WASS’ BIG BOARD. IT HAS BEEN PLUCKED A PART. YOU HAVE NAILED THE FIRST FIXED IN THE SECOND ROUND. JAVON SMALL IS NOW THE NUMBER 1 PLAYER AVAILABLE. YOU ARE SEEING SOME NAMES LIKE ROCCO START TO CRACK THE 8-9-10 SPOTS. WE ARE LOOKING AT TORONTO. JONATHAN: THEY LOOK LIKE A TEAM EMBRACING VERSATILITY. CARTER: THE DRAFT COLLIN MURRAY-BOYLES IN THE FIRST ROUND. THERE ARE SOME GUYS ON THE BOARD WHO CAN DO VERSATILE THINGS. JAMIR WATKINS. I DO NOT WANT TO BRING HIM UP EVERY SINGLE PICK UNTIL HE GETS PICKED BUT HE IS STILL THERE. THERE ARE SOME REALLY GOOD OPTIONS FOR TORONTO. GREG: THE PICK IS IN AND WE WILL SEE WHAT THE RAPTORS ARE ABOUT TO DO AT 39 MOMENTARILY. LET’S FIND OUT. ALIJAH MARTIN. GATOR BOYS, STAY HOT. ALIJAH MARTIN FROM FLORIDA ATLANTIC. HE TRANSFERS TO FLORIDA FOR HIS FINAL YEAR. ONE YEAR IN, ONE YOUR OUT, NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP ALONG THE WAY. HE WAS A KEY PIECE. AT TIMES, JUST A HEAT CHECK GUY. HE WOULD MAKE HIS FIRST TWO FOR THREE SHOTS AND THEN YOU LOOK UP AND HE HAS 20 POINTS. OTHER TIMES HE WOULD IMPACT THE GAME WITHOUT SCORING. HE WAS ONE OF THE BEST ON BALL DEFENDERS ON THE PERIMETER IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. IT IS A NAME I EXPECTED TO HEAR TONIGHT. I DO NOT KNOW IF I EXPECTED TO HEAR IT IN THE 30’S. CANNOT HATE ON THE PICK. WHAT IS YOUR GRADE FOR ALIJAH MARTIN AT 39? JONATHAN: I LOVE ALIJAH MARTIN AS A COLLEGE PLAYER. DID I THINK HE WOULD GO BEFORE MAXIME RAYNAUD? AGAIN, PART OF THE GRADING SYSTEM HAS TO BE WHO YOU LEFT ON THE BOARD. I THINK THERE ARE BETTER PROSPECTS ON THE BOARD BUT I GIVE TORONTO CREDIT. A LOT OF CHARACTER EVALUATION, TOUGHNESS WHEN INTO THIS PICK. I WILL GIVE IT A B. DO I THINK HE CAN CARVE OUT AN NBA CAREER? SURE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A FRONT OFFICE THAT BELIEVES IN YOU AND GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY. YOU NAILED THE WHOLE SCOUTING REPORT. SUPER TOUGH DEFENSIVELY. A SHOT MAKER. HE CAN FINISH WITH EXPLOSIVENESS AROUND THE BASKET. HE IS 6’2″ AND NOT A POINT GUARD AT ALL. NOT EVEN A HIGH LEVEL CREATOR. LOOK AT THOSE MUSCLES. STRENGTH, TOUGHNESS AND SHOTMAKING. THAT COMBINATION SUGGESTS HE COULD BE A MINI 3 AND D GUY. GREG: AS A KID WHO WAS FEARLESS AT FLORIDA, HE WOULD TRY TO POSTER DEFENDERS WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING EVEN THERE. I AM EXCITED ABOUT THIS ADD. A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED TO SEE IT IN THE 30’S. YOU COULD TALK YOURSELF INTO THIS BEING A NICE COMPLEMENTARY PIECE. LET’S MOVE TO 40. THE WASHINGTON WIZARDS, WHO ARE TECHNICALLY ON THE CLOCK, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A PROPOSED TRADE IN PLACE. THIS PICK SHOULD GO TO THE NEW ORLEANS PELICANS. THE PELICANS, ONE OF THE LOUDER/MAKING TEAMS IN THE NBA DRAFT ON NIGHT 1. THEY MOVED UP TO SELECT QUEEN AFTER ADDING JEREMIAH FEARS. JORDAN POOLE COMING TO NEW ORLEANS. IT IS A WHOLE NEW LOOK PELICANS TEAM RIGHT NOW. LOOKING AT THE BIG BOARD. WHO SHOULD THE PELICANS AT? CARTER: THERE ARE A COUPLE GUYS THAT MAYBE WENT EARLIER THAN YOU MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT WHICH LEAVES SOME GOOD OPTIONS. TYRESE PROCTOR AS A CONNECTOR GUARD WHO CAN DEFEND. JEREMIAH FEARS WILL TRY TO RUN THE SHOW. JAMIR WATKINS COULD FIT VERY WELL ON THE WING BEHIND GUYS LIKE TREY MURPHY. I THINK THE PELICANS ARE IN GOOD POSITION GIVEN GUYS LIKE JENI BROOME AND ALIJAH MARTIN WERE TAKEN A LITTLE BIT EARLY. GREG: WE HEAR THE PICK IS IN AND WE WILL GO TO JAKE FISCHER TO HELP US BREAK THE NEWS ON WHAT NEW ORLEANS IS DOING AT 40. JAKE: THIS PICK, IF YOU GUYS RECALL, WAS PART OF THE DEAL EARLIER IN THE WEEK WHEN THE PELICANS SENT C.J. MACCONNELL OUT THE DOOR TO WASHINGTON AND BROUGHT IN JORDAN POOLE –THEY BROUGHT JORDAN PEEL, I DID IT AGAIN! THEY BROUGHT JORDAN POOLE TO NEW ORLEANS. THIS COMPLETES THE DEAL. MICAH PEAVY TO THE PELICANS AT 40. A LOT OF THESE PLAYERS PICKED IN THE 40’S WILL BE AGREEING TO TWO-WAY CONTRACTS. THERE ARE SOME TEAMS TO LOOK TO FIND GUYS ON ROSTER SPOTS. STAY TUNED FOR ALL OF THAT. GREG: INTERESTING. THANK YOU, JAKE FISCHER. MICAH PEAVY TO THE PELICANS AT 40. AN INTERESTING NAME. A GOOD PLAYER. A GUY WHO HAD A PRODUCTIVE COLLEGE CAREER. THE FIRST GUY WHO HAS BEEN SELECTED WHERE I WAS NOT SURE WE WOULD HEAR HIS NAME. INTERESTING THAT WASS’ THOUGHTS AND JUST A MOMENT. I KNOW YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH MICAH PEAVY. ARE YOU SURPRISED? CARTER: I AM NOT. GIVEN HIS SURPRISE AND VERSATILITY, HE WAS A GOT HE COULD PUT ON THE WING. HE DEFENDED AT A HIGH LEVEL AND GREW AS AN OFFENSIVE PLAYER. IT IS FITTING TO HAVE THE TWO FOUNDING MEMBERS ON THE COUCH. I THINK HE DOES FIT SOME THINGS THE PELICANS MIGHT BE LOOKING FOR. I AM INTERESTED TO GET WASS’ TAKE ON THIS ONE. JONATHAN: PEAVY IS SOMEONE WHO HAS RISEN DURING THE DRAFT PROCESS AT THE COMBINE. I THINK TEAMS LOVE THE IDEA OF HIM. IT TOOK FIVE YEARS FOR THIS TO BECOME A REALISTIC NBA PROSPECT. TEXAS TECH, TCU, GEORGETOWN. ON PAPER, WHY IS THIS GUY NOT TALKED ABOUT BY MORE PEOPLE? 6’8″, AVERAGES 3.6 ASSISTS PER GAME AND SHOT 40% FROM 3. I THINK THIS IS A B-PLUS. HIS VERSATILITY IS INTRIGUING. HE WILL BE 20 FOUR YEARS OLD RIGHT AFTER THE DRAFT. YOU ARE NOT GETTING A LOT OF UPSIDE. FOR A GUY THAT IS 6’*”, PASSES LIKE HIM — 6’8″, PASSES LIKE HIM. THE EVALUATION IS TRICKY. IS THIS A FLUKY SEASON? HE FLED A HIGHER USAGE ROLE IN GEORGETOWN’S OFFENSE. THIS LATE IT IS A RISK WORTH TAKING FOR A GUY WITH HIS PHYSICAL TOOLS. GREG: FIVE YEARS IN COLLEGE. HIS FIRST YEAR WAS AT TEXAS TECH. A VERY PROMISING ROLE PLAYER. YOU THOUGHT HE MIGHT STAY. HE ENDED UP PLAYING THREE YEARS AT TCU. GETTING INCREMENTALLY BETTER. FINALLY, A 50 YEAR BREAK OUT WITH GEORGETOWN, AVERAGING — A 50 YEAR — FIFTH-YEAR BREAK OUT WITH GEORGETOWN, AVERAGING 17 POINTS PER GAME. WHAT IS YOUR COMP? JONATHAN: DON’T GET TOO EXCITED — TRENT FORREST OUT OF FLORIDA STATE. IT IS HARD TO FIND COMPS FOR PLAYERS THIS LATE IN THE DRAFT. SOMETIMES HE LOOKS LIKE A GUARD, SOMETIMES HE LOOKS LIKE A FORWARD. DEPENDING ON WHAT HIS ROLE WILL BE, I THINK HIS JOB WILL BE TO MORPH INTO WHATEVER PLAYER THAT PARTICULAR POSSESSION REQUIRES. ALSO, A GOOD DEFENDER. FORREST WAS A GOOD DEFENDER, AS WELL. THAT IS A BIG SELLING POINT TO GET PEAVY HERE. GREG: THANK YOU. WE ARE 10 PICKS THROUGH THE SECOND ROUND. RASHEER FLEMING, NOAH PENDA, SION JAMES, RYAN KALKBRENNER, JOHNI BROOME. ADOU THIERO, CHAZ LANIER, KAM JONES, ALIJAH MARTIN AND MICAH PEAVY TO ROUNDED OUT. ANY MAJOR SURPRISES IN THE FIRST 10 PICKS? IS THIS PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU EXPECTED? CARTER: I EXPECTED TO SEE MAXIME RAYNAUD GO, ESPECIALLY SEEING TWO OTHER CENTERS GO. I AM CONFUSED ON HOW OTHER TEAMS VIEWED HIM. I THOUGHT SOME TEAMS WOULD BE IN THE MARKET TO TRY TO TRADE UP TO GET HIM BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT HE WOULD BE GONE. I’M CONFUSED TO SEE HIM NOT GOING IN THE FIRST 10 PICKS. GREG: IT IS HARD TO CALL THINGS A DRAFT SLIDE GETTING INTO THE SECOND ROUND. I EXPECTED CHAOS. WE TALKED ABOUT THAT A LOT ON NIGHT 1. IT HAS BEEN AN ENTERTAINING, CHAOTIC DRAFT. AS FAR AS VALUE OF PLAYERS GOING WAY BELOW MARKET VALUE, WE ARE NOT SEEING A LOT OF THAT. WE ARE SEEING G.M.’S TAKE GUYS WHERE WE EXPECTED. WE WILL HAVE TO SEE IF THAT REMAINS THE CASE FOR THE FINAL 20 PICKS IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. PICK 41 IS ON THE CLOCK. THIS IS THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS. HOWEVER, THIS PICK WILL GO TO THE PHOENIX SUNS IN A PROPOSED TRADE. WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SUNS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER TONIGHT. THIS IS A SUNS TEAM THAT WE SAW MAKE SPLASHES ON NIGHT 1 OF THE NBA DRAFT AND WE SAW THEM TRADE UP TO GET RASHEER FLEMING. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING AS THE PHOENIX SUNS’ BIGGEST NEED? CARTER: THEY COULD USE SOME GUYS WHO COULD CONTRIBUTE ON THE WING. THEY HAVE A PLETHORA OF SHOOTING GUARD’S. THEY DID GOOD GETTING GUYS FOR THE FRONTCOURT. SOME WINGS COULD HELP THEM OUT. ON LOOKING AT THE BIG BOARD. JAMIR WATKINS. BABY KOBE SANDERS. SOME WINGS WITH REALLY GOOD SIZE. I THINK IT WOULD GO A LONG WAY FOR THE SUNS IN FILLING OUT THE FORWARD SPOT. GREG: I THINK THEY HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH ON THE WING. I’M LOOKING AT THE BIG BOARD, JAVON SMALL, TYRESE PROCTOR CAN RUN THE SHOW. I THINK THEY WOULD BE WELL SERVED TO FILL THE POINT GUARD SPOT. JAKE FISCHER WILL GIVE US SOME INTEL. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE PHOENIX SUNS AT 41? JAKE: THIS IS PART OF THE DEALING FOR PHOENIX. THEY MOVED AGAIN TO GET RASHEER FLEMING. THIS COMPLETES PHOENIX IS BUSY DRAFT. I HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS WILL BE MAXIME RAYNAUD AT NUMBER 42 SACRAMENTO. I DO NOT HAVE THAT CONFIRMED YET. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE WAITING TO FIND OUT. FOR PHOENIX, TOO, THEY HAD SELECTED ENOUGH BIG MEN ALREADY. GETTING MARK WILLIAMS, RASHARD FLEMING. THIS IS THE SHOOTER YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT. OTHER PARTS OF THE ROSTER THEY NEEDED TO ADDRESS. OVERALL, YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE SUNS CREDIT FOR TARGETING GUYS THEY WANTED. GREG: THANK YOU, JAKE. IT HAS BEEN AN ACTIVE TWO NIGHTS FOR THE SUNS AT MINIMUM. ONE POINT, CARTER. ZERO POINTS, ME. IT IS ALSO ONE POINT MARK POPE. KOBY BREA. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE ROUGHLY A DECADE AND A HALF THAT WE HAVE NOT SEEN THE KENTUCKY WILDCAT TAKE IT IN THE FIRST ROUND OF THE DRAFT. WE DID NOT HAVE TO WAIT LONG ON NIGHT 2. KOBY BREA GOES OFF THE BOARD TO THE SUNS. JONATHAN: I HAVE ALWAYS SAID FROM THE BEGINNING, BREA WILL BE A SECOND ROUND VALUE PICK. HE HAS A SPECIALTY. THAT SPECIALTY SHOULD TRANSLATE BASED ON THE SIZE HE HAS AND THE NUMBERS HE PUTS UP FROM BEHIND THE ARC. GOING BACK TO DAYTON, HE SHOT 100-201 FROM 3. THAT IS UNBELIEVABLE EFFICIENCY. THIS YEAR, 44% AGAINST TOUGHER OPPONENTS IN THE SEC. FEE IS ONE OF THE BEST SHOOTERS I HAVE SEEN IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. SOME OF THE GUYS WHO PUT UP HIS NUMBERS –LET ME SEE IF I CAN PULL THIS UP. 6’6″ GUYS WHO SHOT OVER 40% IN 700 TEMPS, ALLEN HOUSTON, KYLE KORVER, STEVE NOVAK. THERE IS NO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT BREA CAN BECOME A SPECIALIST SHOOTER. TO GET THAT KIND OF GUY IN THE SECOND ROUND — I MOCKED HAD HIM AT 41. THIS IS A GOOD PICK. I KNEW SOMEBODY WOULD GO AFTER HIM. CARTER: THAT BOY DON’T MISS. WHEN YOU SAY ELITE SHOOTER –YOU COULD NOT WANT TO USE THE WORD “ELITE” LIGHTLY. I’M INTERESTED TO GET YOUR PLAYER COMP. JONATHAN: THIS HAS TO BE DUNCAN ROBINSON. YOU CAN THROW OUT ANY NAMES I THROUGHOUT THERE. WE HAVE A HIGHLIGHT OF HIM PUTTING THE BALL ON THE FLOOR BUT HE WILL NOT DO THAT IN THE NBA. THEY HAVE A HIGHLIGHT OF DUNCAN ROBINSON PUTTING THE BALL ON THE FLOOR? HIS JOB WILL BE RUNNING OFF OF SCREENS, CATCH AND SHOOT AND THAT IS IT. HE WILL NOT BE A HIGH LEVEL DEFENDER, HE WILL NOT GIVE YOU ASSISTS OR RIM PRESSURE. BUT WITH THAT SHOOTING STROKE, WHICH IS SO CLEAN, AND HIS SIZE, I DO NOT SEE WHAT HE COULD NOT DO SOMETHING SIMILAR TO DUNCAN ROBINSON. GREG: SOMETIMES YOU JUST NEED TO BE AN ELITE SPECIALIST. THAT IS WHY I AM SITTING ON THE BLEACHER REPORT COUCH. I WILL PUT MYSELF UP AGAINST ANYONE THROWING IT TO JONATHAN WASSERMAN. LET’S RESET. WE ARE GOING 42ND PICK IN JUST A MOMENT. IT WILL BE THE SACRAMENTO KINGS MAKING A SELECTION VIA THE CHICAGO BULLS. AS FISCH JUST ALLUDED TO, THIS MAY BE MAXIME RAYNAUD, MAY BE THE MOST MENTIONED NAME ON NIGHT 2. THIS MIGHT BE THE BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE COMING IN. AS OF RIGHT NOW HE IS STILL AVAILABLE. LET’S SEE IF THIS CHANGES MOMENTARILY. THIS COULD BE AN EMOTIONAL MOMENT. CARTER: I’M NOT TRYING TO FILL A QUOTA MENTIONING MAXIME RAYNAUD. NEXT TO SABONIS, THEY COULD USE A POINT GUARD. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THEY GO IN THIS SPOT. GREG: THE PICK IS IN. I AM BEING TOLD. I BELIEVE THE SACRAMENTO KINGS HAVE FULFILLED THE PROPHECY. THEY HAVE SELECTED MAXIME RAYNAUD 42ND OVERALL IN THE NBA DRAFT. I WILL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BEHIND THE SCENES. WE WERE GOING TO THROW IT TO JAKE FISCHER FOR SOME COMMENTARY BUT I WAS TOLD HE IS ON THE PHONE. A LITTLE SPOILER FOR YOU. THERE WILL BE SOME MORE CHAOS TONIGHT. THERE COULD BE MORE TEAMS ON THE PHONE WITH JAKE FISCHER. FOR NOW, LET’S TALK MAXIME RAYNAUD. CARTER, IT ONLY FEELS RIGHT THAT YOU TALK. CARTER: HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE, GREAT SIZE, 20 POINTS A GAME AT STANFORD. HE HAS THE VERSATILITY TO PUT THE BALL ON THE FLOOR. YOU WATCH HIS TAPE AND YOU SEE A FIRST ROUND BIG. A LOT OF NBA TEAMS WOULD SALIVATE OVER THAT TYPE OF SKILL SET. THIS FEELS LIKE A REALLY GOOD VALUE SPOT. JONATHAN: LISTEN, THIS IS SURPRISING BASED ON THE NBA BUZZ HE GENERATED AFTER THE COMBINE. IF YOU LOOK AT MY BOARD, I HAD HIM IN THE MID-30’S. NOT FAR OFF FROM MY EVALUATION. AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT, A 7’1″ GUY WHO MADE 67 3’S AND AVERAGED 20 AND 10, THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN. THERE ARE FEW IN THE HISTORY OF COLLEGE BASKETBALL TO PUT UP THOSE NUMBERS. THIS IS AN A-MINUS LATE IN THE DRAFT. A RISK WORTH TAKING. THE 3-POINT SHOOTING HAS TO STICK FOR HIM TO BE A VALUABLE NBA PLAYER. I DO NOT KNOW IF HE WILL COMMAND POST TOUCHES. HE DOES NOT HAVE ANY LENGTH AT HIS POSITION. THE SAME WINGSPAN AS HIS HEIGHT. WE SEE HIGHLIGHTS OF HIM PUTTING THE BALL ON THE FLOOR, SPINNING, USING BOTH HANDS. HIS SKILL LEVEL IS OFF THE CHARTS. I REACHED OUT TO A COUPLE OF TEAMS ASKING WHY HE SLIPPED AND NOBODY KNOWS WHY. I THINK PEOPLE DID NOT BUY THE FULL OFFENSE TRANSLATING AND THEY QUESTIONED HIS DEFENSE AT CENTER. OF VERY HIGHLY SKILLED PLAYER. HE CAN STRETCH THE FLOOR. GREG: IT IS ONE OF THOSE PICKS WHERE THE UPSIDE IS THERE. IF IT HITS, WE WILL LOOK BACK FOR FIVE YEARS AND THINK, WOW, HOW DID HE FALL INTO THE 40’S? IT IS THE KINGS’ ONLY SELECTION SO FAR. THEY WERE TRYING TO MOVE UP, POTENTIALLY TARGETING RICHARDSON. THAT MOVE DID NOT COME TOGETHER. IN THE END, MAXIME RAYNAUD IS THE CONSOLATION PRIZE FOR THE KINGS. WHAT A GOOD CONSOLATION PRIZE MAXIME RAYNAUD IS AT 42. WHO IS YOUR COMP? JONATHAN: I AM GOING WITH QUENTIN POST. EARLIER IT WAS ALEX LEN. HE WILL NOT BE A 20-10 GUY. HE WILL BE VALUED BECAUSE HE IS 7’1″ AND HE SHOOTS 3’S. THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW QUICK HE IS OFF THE DRIBBLE. I DO BUY FOR SHOT, OR AT LEAST FOR A MID SECOND ROUND PICK. THAT IS WHERE HE WILL FIND VALUE. THAT IS HOW HE WILL EARN MINUTES. IF HE CAN DO WHAT POST DOES. GREG: WITH THAT, WE MOVE TO THE 43RD PICK IN THE NBA DRAFT. IT WILL BE THE UTAH JAZZ ON THE CLOCK. HOWEVER, THIS PICK WILL MAKE ITS WAY TO THE WASHINGTON WIZARDS. THE WIZARDS HAVE BEEN ON THE CLOCK TECHNICALLY MULTIPLE TIMES IN THIS DRAFT. HOWEVER, DUE TO TRADES, TREY JOHNSON IS THE ONLY ACQUISITION SO FAR FOR THE WASHINGTON WIZARDS. THEY WILL LOOK TO BOLSTER THIS CLASS A LITTLE BIT. LOOKING AT THIS BIG BOARD, WE HAVE SOME GUARDS AT THE TOP. WE ARE STARTING TO SEE MORE INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS BECOME VALUE SELECTIONS. ROCCO, A GUY THE LAKERS HAVE BEEN RUMORED TO BE INVOLVED WITH. ANOTHER FRONT COURT FROM AUSTRALIA CRACKED WASS’ TOP 10. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOU WERE DRAFTING ON BEHALF OF WASHINGTON? CARTER: IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THEY GO. THEY ARE NOT NECESSARILY TRYING TO TAKE THE NBA BY STORM. THEY HAVE THE PIECES TO TAKE A SWING ON A GUY. THERE ARE GUYS WHO COULD CONTRIBUTE RIGHT AWAY. TYRESE PROCTOR COULD GIVE THEM GOOD STUFF ON THE WING. JAMIR WATKINS. BRICE WILLIAMS SCORED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AT THE COLLEGE LEVEL. JORDAN PEEL –JORDAN POOLE — FISCHER IS TAKING CONTROL OF ME. GREG: LET’S SEE WHAT THE WASHINGTON WIZARDS WILL DO HERE AT 43. THE PICK IS IN. IT IS JAMIR WATKINS. THE WIZARDS WILL SELECT JAMIR WATKINS WITH THE 43RD PICK IN THE 2035 NBA DRAFT. RAYNAUD TO WATKINS BACK TO BACK FEELS LIKE BACK-TO-BACK PHENOMENAL VALUE PICKS IN THE 40’S. YOU COULD HAVE TOLD ME THEY CAME OFF THE BOARD LATE IN THE FIRST ROUND AND I WOULD HAVE SAID IT WAS BUT THAT CRAZY. INSTEAD, THEY FALL TO THE 40’S. WATKINS, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT WASHINGTON IS DOING, HE MIGHT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IMMEDIATELY TO STEP INTO THAT ROTATION AND IMPACT THINGS ON THE FLOOR FOR THE WASHINGTON WIZARDS. WASS, WHAT WOULD YOU GREAT THIS PICK FOR JAMIR WATKINS? JONATHAN: I LIKE THIS PICK. I LOVE WHAT WASHINGTON HAS DONE. ONE OF MY FAVORITE DRAFTS SO FAR. I LOVE THE ARCHETYPE. IT IS VERY ENTICING. A 6’7″ GUY WHO CAN PLAY POINT GUARD, PLOW THROUGH CONTACT, TOUGH AT THE BASKET, HE CAN GUARD MULTIPLE POSITIONS. THIS IS AN A-PLUS TO BE THIS LATE IN THE DRAFT. ‘S ROLE WILL BE DIFFERENT IN THE NBA. HE WILL HAVE TO BECOME A BETTER SPOT A PLAYER. AT FLORIDA STATE HE WAS THE FOCAL POINT OF THE OFFENSE. EVEN IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SECOND UNIT GUY, HE DOES A LOT ON THE FLOOR AT BOTH ENDS. THE BIG KNOCK WAS HIS SHOOTING. 1.7 3’S PER GAME. HE IS NOT A SHOOTER BUT HE CAN MAKE THOSE SHOTS. THAT IS ENOUGH FOR ME FOR A GUY WITH THAT PHYSICAL PROFILE. YOU WILL PRESSURE THE RIM AND SET TEAMMATES UP. CARTER: I LOVED WATCHING JAMIR WATKINS LAST SEASON. FILLED UP THE STAT SHEET. HE HAS THE GAME AND THE BODY TO BE A PERFECT NBA ROLE PLAYER AND BE SUCCESSFUL. OF INTERESTED TO GET A PLAYER COMPARISON FOR JAMIR WATKINS. JONATHAN: I THINK I WENT WITH CARIS LEVERT. THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY DIFFERENCES AND I THINK WATKINS IS A STRONGER TYPE OF PLAYER. THEIR SKILL SETS WERE SIMILAR. THESE ARE 6’6″, 6’7″ WINGS. WATKINS HAS SHOWN HE CAN PLAY THE POINT WING. HE CAN SCORE FROM BEHIND THE ARC AND AT THE RIM. A LITTLE BIT IN THE MIDRANGE. OF VERY VERSATILE OFFENSIVE PLAYER. I THINK WATKINS HAS MORE DEFENSIVE UPSIDE. LEVERT IT IS PROBABLY IN MORE SKILLED OFFENSIVE PLAYER. GREG: I TOTALLY SEE THE VISION. ONE THING THAT EXCITES ME AFTER LOOKING AT WHAT WASHINGTON HAS DONE, I WANT TO SEE TRE JOHNSON AND JAMIR WATKINS PLAY ONE-ON-ONE. ONE OF THE BEST PURE OFFENSIVE BUCKET-GETTING ISO WINGS. A GUY WHO CAN GUARD A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS. AT MINIMUM, THOSE TWO BEING ABLE TO GET REPS AGAINST EACH OTHER AS ROOKIES IN WASHINGTON IS EXCITING. GOOD JOB, WIZARDS. IT FEELS WEIRD TO BE IN WITH WHAT WASHINGTON IS DOING. THE OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER. THE CHAMPS ARE BACK ON THE CLOCK. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR OKC? CARTER: THEIR ROSTER DOES NOT HAVE MANY HOLES. THEY HAVE A LOT OF PIECES ON THE TEAM. THE STARTERS ARE SET AND THEY HAVE A GOOD BENCH. IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THEY DIP INTO THE OVERSEAS POOS. ROCCO IS THERE. THAT COULD BRING SOME CENTER DEPTH TO THE TEAM. YOU COULD SEE THEM SELECT A PICK THAT THEY COULD STASH OVERSEAS. GREG: THIS FEELS LIKE MARKOVIC. LET’S SEE. JAKE FISCHER HAS THE NEWS. WHAT WILL THE OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER DO HERE AT 44? JAKE: THE OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER WILL SELECT BROOKS BARNHIZER. THE THUNDER HAVE A TOTAL ROSTER CRUNCH. THEY ENTERED THE DRAFT AFTER WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SUNDAY NIGHT WITH A FULL ROSTER. THAT IS PART OF WHY THEY MOVED OUT OF 24. THERE IS SOME MATH NOT MATHING. THEY WILL BASICALLY HAVE 17 GUYS ON CONTRACT. THERE WAS TALK ABOUT THE THUNDER USING THIS PICK FOR A DRAFT AND STASH. SOMETHING IS NOT ADDING UP. IT IS A GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE FOR THE THUNDER TO HAVE WON THE TITLE AND HAVE A DEEP ROSTER FULL OF GUYS THEY WILL POTENTIALLY HAVE TO FILL OUT SOME THINGS WITH. MITCHELL COULD BE POTENTIALLY REVERTED BACK TO ACHIUWA CONTRACT. MAY BE BROOKS IS A TWO-WAY CONTRACT GUY. CLEVELAND COMING UP AT 49. THIS IS PROBABLY A TWO-WAY DEAL. TEAMS ARE TALKING ABOUT THE THUNDER ENGAGING. THAT IS MY LATEST ON OKC. GREG: THANK YOU, JAKE. YOU HAVE BEEN CRUSHING IT ON NIGHT 2 OF THE DRAFT. BROOKS BARNHIZER DESERVES A CHANCE TO CRACK AN NBA ROSTER. YOU DIDN’T SEE THIS BECAUSE WE THREW IT TO THE FISHBOWL. OUR JAWS JUST HIT THE FLOOR. WE ARE GUYS THAT WATCH A BUNCH OF BEEN TOO BIG — BIG TEN BASKETBALL. I HAVE A EFFECTUATION WITH HIS GAME. I DID NOT EXPECT TO HEAR HIS NAME CALLED TONIGHT. ESPECIALLY NOT AT 44 TO THE CHAMPS. BUT NOW THAT I AM THINKING OF IT OR JUST TRYING TO BREAK HIS GAME DOWN, THIS IS A TOUGH KID. THIS IS A KID WHO GOT HIS TEETH KNOCKED OUT TWICE THIS YEAR AT NORTHWESTERN AND JUST KEPT PLAYING THROUGH IT. ULTIMATELY, HIS SEASON WAS CUT SHORT TO A SEASON-ENDING INJURY. HE TOOK ON THE BURDEN OF BEING THE BEST PLAYER AND KEEPING THAT TEAM COMPETITIVE IN A LOADED CONFERENCE. I JUST CAN’T REALLY FATHOM THAT THAT’S WHO THE THUNDER DECIDED TO GO WITH. ARE YOU AS SHOCKED AS I AM? CARTER: I AM SHOCKED BECAUSE I LOVED BROOKS BARNHIZER. THEY LOOK FOR SOMEONE WITH GOOD SIZE AT THE DEFENSIVE POSITION. JUST DIDN’T EXPECT THEM TO GO WITH THAT TYPE OF PLAYER AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT. LET’S GET YOUR THOUGHTS. >> A LITTLE BIT OF A SCOOP. THE THUNDER MADE HIM A PROMISE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT HIS CAMP WAS UNDECIDED WHETHER TO TAKE IT BECAUSE THEY KIND OF WANTED A BETTER SITUATION AND HAVE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT BARNHIZER, THERE IS NOT MUCH I CAN ADD TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE SAID. I AM GIVING THIS A BE+ — B+. I MADE A PITCH ON TWITTER SAYING MORE NBA TEAMS NEED TO BE LOOKING AT HIM. OF COURSE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIS THREE-POINT PERCENTAGE UP A LITTLE BIT, BUT AT 6’6″, HE DOES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. A .5 REBOUNDS, OVER FOUR ASSISTS PER GAME. HE FINDS A WAY TO GET IT DONE AND HE PLAYS AT 150 PERCENT. A VERY TOUGH PLAYER INSIDE THE ARC WHO CAN PLAY THROUGH CONTACT, MAKE TOUGH SHOTS IN THE MIDRANGE. OKLAHOMA CITY HAD THEIR EYES ON BARNHIZER WE COULD GO. THEY DECLINED IT ORIGINALLY AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DECIDED TO TAKE IT ANY WAY WITH HIM ON THE BOARD. GREG: WOW. ALL RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT OF A SCOOP THERE. LET’S GIVE YOU CREDIT FOR THAT, THAT IS A BIG SCOOP. THAT IS WHAT WE LIVE FOR. ULTIMATELY IT COMES TO FRUITION FOR BROOKS. DRAFTED 44TH, THAT IS A WIN FOR HIM AND HIS CAMP. I WILL BE ROOTING FOR THIS. IT IS HARD NOT TO FALL IN LOVE WITH A KID WHO PLAYS AS HARD AS HE DOES. BUT JUST COMING OFF OF THAT INJURY, SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT. GOOD JOB, THOUGH. OKLAHOMA KEEPING THAT UNDER WRAPS UNTIL THEY WERE ON THE CLOCK. WE WILL MOVE TO 45 HERE. THE CHICAGO BULLS ARE ON THE CLOCK. I BELIEVE THERE IS A PROPOSED TRADE THAT WILL SEND THIS PIC FROM CHICAGO TO THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES. WHAT SHOULD THE TIMBERWOLVES DO? CARTER: INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THEY GO. THEY ADDED A CORE PLAYER IN THE FIRST ROUND. COULD POSSIBLY LOOKED AT ANOTHER ONE. THERE’S ALSO A LOT OF GOOD GUARDS AS WELL. I THINK THERE’S PRETTY GOOD OPTIONS. I AM INTERESTED TO SEE IF TYRESE PROCTOR COMES OFF THE BOARD HERE. GREG: I DON’T WANT TO SAY IT IS A SLIDE FOR PROCTOR, BUT WE ARE SEEING IT MOVE AS HE SITS ATOP THE BIG BOARD. I THINK WE HAVE WORD THAT THE PICK IS IN HERE FOR THE MINNESOTA TIMBERWOLVES. LET’S SEE WHO THE TIMBERWOLVES WILL SELECT AT 45. AND IT’S GOING TO BE ROCCO ZIKARSKY FROM AUSTRALIA. WE HEARD RUMOR TODAY THAT THE LOS ANGELES LAKERS WERE POSSIBLY TARGETING HIM IN THE SECOND ROUND. INSTEAD, IT APPEARS THAT ROCCO WILL MAKE HIS WAY TO MINNESOTA. YOUR SINK SOME CLIPS OF ROCCO AT THE COMBINE. HE IS A SEVEN FOOT CENTER. A GUY WHO HAS SOME POTENTIAL FROM A SKILL SET PERSPECTIVE TO STEP OUTSIDE AND MAKE SOME THREE-POINT SHOTS. THIS IS A KID WHO HAS BEEN ON INTERNATIONAL RADARS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS IN TERMS OF ONE DAY MAKING IT OVER TO THE NBA. THAT PROPHECY HAS BEEN FULFILLED TONIGHT AS HE GOES 45TH IN THIS DRAFT. WHAT DO YOU THINK OF ROCCO CURRENCY? CARTER: YOU CAN’T BEAT SIZE. YOU’RE LOOKING AT A GUY WHO CAN HAVE ELITE LENGTH, WHO CAN AFFECT SHOTS. HE CAN SHOOT THE BALL. YOU SAW IN THOSE CLIPS, HE IS A GUY WHERE YOU NEED SIZE IN THE NBA, VERSATILITY, GUYS WHO MOVE WHILE. I THINK ROCCO IS A PLAYER WHO CAN DO THAT. TIMBERWOLVES HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB AS WELL, SO BEING UNDER THE TUTELAGE OF GUYS LIKE RUDY GOBERT COULD ALSO GO A LONG WAY FOR ROCCO ZIKARSKY. JAKE: ZIKARSKY IS SOMEBODY I HAD IN THE TOP 20 ENTERING THE SEASON. OF COURSE, HE BARELY PLAYED IN THE NBL, THEN GOT HURT IN JANUARY. I HAVE NEVER SEEN HIM PLAY LIVE. SO, A LOT OF THE TIME WITH HIM, I REFER TO PEOPLE WHO GET TO SEE HIM ON A REGULAR BASIS. I GUESS THIS IS A B. PEOPLE I TALKED TO AROUND THE NBA ARE NOT IN LOVE WITH HIM. THEY HAVE QUESTIONED HIS MATURITY AND HIS MOBILITY FOR THE NBA PLAYER. BUT AGAIN, HE IS 18 YEARS OLD. HE WAS A VERY HIGH-LEVEL YOUTH PLAYER, SOMEBODY WHO EVERYBODY EXPECTED AT LEAST A YEAR AGO TO BE IN THE FIRST ROUND CONVERSATION, REGARDED AS ONE OF THESE VERY HIGH-PROFILE PROSPECTS. IT DIDN’T HAPPEN THIS YEAR. HE TOOK A BACKSEAT AND THEN GOT HURT. BUT LIKE YOU GUYS SAID, HE IS INCREDIBLY BIG AND HAS A LOT OF DEFENSIVE POTENTIAL, AT LEAST AROUND THE BASKET. THERE IS NOTHING EXCITING ABOUT HIS OFFENSIVE GAME. I THINK THE FLASHES WE DID SEE THIS YEAR OF HIM DEFENDING AWAY FROM THE BASKET WERE NOT VERY PROMISING. HE LOOKS HEAVIER THAN HE DID IN YEARS PAST. SO, I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF TRANSLATION QUESTIONS AND QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS HIS UPSIDE AT THE NBA LEVEL. BUT AT 45, I AM NOT GOING TO NITPICK. HE IS 18 YEARS OLD. HE CAN IMPROVE HIS CONDITIONING. HE CAN BECOME MORE MATURE. HE IS AN INTERESTING PROSPECT. BUT IT DOESN’T SOUND LIKE THE TIMBERWOLVES ARE GOING TO SEE RESULTS ANYTIME SOON. GREG: ZIKARSKY FOR MINNESOTA. ANOTHER TEAM THAT CLEARLY HAD A VISION OF WHAT THEY WERE AFTER HERE TO STRENGTHEN UP THIS FRONT CORE. GET YOU ADDITIONAL OPTIONS TO PAIR WITH ANTHONY EDWARDS, AND THEY HAVE DONE THAT WITH ROCCO ZIKARSKY IN THE FOLD. WE ARE TO THE 46TH PICK IN THE DRAFT. IT IS THE ORLANDO MAGIC ON THE CLOCK. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THIS PICK IS ACTUALLY GOING TO GO TO THE BOSTON CELTICS. AND THE CELTICS HAVE SELECTED AMARI WILLIAMS AS THE 46TH PICK IN THE DRAFT. A LITTLE CENTER RUN MIDWAY THROUGH THE SECOND ROUND. AMARI WILLIAMS OUT OF KENTUCKY. BEGAN HIS COLLEGE CAREER AT DREXEL. ONE YEAR UNDER MARK POPE AND IT WAS THE BEST WE HAVE SEEN HIM LOOK IN A COLLEGE BASKETBALL UNIFORM. I THINK HE COULD SHOCK SOME PEOPLE IN THE NBA. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GUYS I WOULD PUT IN MY UMBRELLA OF PLAYERS I BELIEVE WILL OUTPERFORM THEIR DRAFT SPOT. YOU DON’T FIND MANY CENTERS AS GOOD AS HE IS DEFENSIVELY THAT CAN ALSO BE USED AS AN OFFENSIVE HUB. HE IS A GREAT PASSER. AVERAGED OVER THREE ASSISTS IN HIS GAME IN HIS ONE YEAR AT KENTUCKY. PART OF THAT WAS THE MARK POPE SYSTEM, WHICH IS PLAYER FRIENDLY TO PLAYERS OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES. THIS IS A KID, YOU CAN SOMETIMES QUESTION THE MOTOR, YOU CAN QUESTION ON A POSSESSION BY POSSESSION BASIS. BUT WHEN HE IS AT HIS BEST, THERE ARE NOT MANY MORE BIG MEN THAT CAN IMPACT THE GAME ON BOTH SIDES THE WAY AMARI WILLIAMS DID LAST YEAR. I WILL THROW IT TO YOU. WHAT IS YOUR GRADE? >> I LIKE WILLIAMS. HE IS A GUY WHO GREW ON ME AS THE SEASON WENT ON. WHEN I WENT BACK AND DID SOME REVIEWING OF TAPE, WHICH I TEND TO DO WHEN THERE IS DOWNTIME BETWEEN APRIL AND JUNE, I AM LIKE, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MISSED THIS GUY. HE WAS ACTUALLY INVITED TO THE DRAFT TONIGHT. DID NOT GO. HE HAD OTHER PLANS TO BE WITH FAMILY, BUT HE KNEW HE WAS GETTING PICKS. A SEVEN FOOTER THAT CAN GRAB AND GO IN TRANSITION. A VERY GOOD PASSER. HE WILL NOT OFFER A LOT OF SCORING AT THE NEXT LEVEL, BUT AT HIS SIZE, HIS ATHLETICISM, WITH THE ABILITY TO FINISH, PASS, AND DEFEND, THIS IS AN A- FOR ME. I LIKE THIS PICK. HE IS AN INTERESTING BIG. HE IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS A CATCH AND FINISH GUY. HE BRINGS SOME VERSATILITY. IF HE GETS THE CHANCE TO HANDLE THE BALL, HE WILL GO FAR IN THE NBA. TEAMS WILL BE SURPRISED WITH WHAT HE CAN DO. CARTER: ONE OF THE BIG THINGS ABOUT AMARI WILLIAMS PLAYING FOR KENTUCKY IS THAT HE WAS SOMEWHAT OF AN OFFENSE STAR. BEING ABLE TO BE A GUY WHO STARTS THE OFFENSE. I THINK HE WILL SHOCK PEOPLE WITH HIS SKILL SET AT THE NBA LEVEL, WHICH HAS ME INTRIGUED TO WHAT HIS COMP MIGHT BE. >> I’M GOING WITH ISAIAH HARTENSTEIN. I THINK THAT IS THE TYPE OF ROLE HE WILL PLAY. HARTENSTEIN WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT KNOWN FOR SCORING. HE IS KNOWN FOR BRINGING DEFENSIVE TOUGHNESS, FINISHING. BUT ALSO, AT LEAST WHEN HE WAS WITH THE NEXT OR EARLIER, HE WAS A VERY GOOD PASSER, SOMEBODY YOU COULD PUT AT THE TOP OF THE ARC AND FACILITATE AND BE A PLAYMAKING HUB, FIND THOSE CUTTERS AND OPEN SHOOTERS. I THINK THAT IS A VERY VALUABLE, UNDERRATED PART OF HIS GAME. I THINK IF HE IS GOING TO CARVE OUT A ROLE, A GOOD GUY FOR HIM TO EMULATE IS GOING TO BE ISAIAH HARTENSTEIN. GREG: WE HAVE SEEN TEAMS EVEN IN THE SECOND ROUND, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO FLY BY A LITTLE QUICKER, WE HAVE SEEN SOME TEAMS MILK THE CLOCK, MAYBE GO PAST THEIR ALLOTTED TIME SLOT. THE CELTICS AT 46, I THINK THAT WAS THE QUICKEST PICK OF THE DRAFT. WE WERE NOT EVEN THROUGH ANNOUNCING THE ROCCO ZIKARSKY PICK AND BOSTON HAD MADE THE PICK. IT SEEMS THEY LIKE AMARI WILLIAMS. THEY WERE READY TO MAKE THAT MOVE VERY SWIFTLY WHEN IT CAME TIME. WE WILL SEE WHAT BOSTON IS DOING. NO JAYSON TATUM TO BEGIN NEXT SEASON. THEY COULD GO IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT THEY HAVE ADDED PIECES THIS DRAFT THAT MAKE ME THINK THIS TEAM IS LOOKING TO STAY COMPETITIVE NEXT YEAR. SO, WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. NOW, WE MOVE TO THE 47TH PICK, AND IT IS THE MILWAUKEE BUCKS ON THE CLOCK. AND I BELIEVE THE PICK IS IN FOR MILWAUKEE. LET’S SEE IF WE’VE GOT IT. I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE BOGOL JUB MARKOVIC. THIS IS A KID, WE TALK ABOUT INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS. THIS IS A KID WHO GOT A LOT OF RUN. HE PLAYED 29 MINUTES A GAME FOR HIS CLUB OVERSEAS LAST YEAR. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THOSE DEVELOP MENTAL PIECES THAT JUST HAS NOT GOTTEN THE REPS BUT SHOWS UPSIDE IN THE COMBINE. HE HAS BEEN PRODUCTIVE AND HAS GOTTEN OPPORTUNITIES. TALK TO ME ON BOGOLJUB MARKOVIC. CARTER: TO YOUR POINT, YOU SEE SOME OF THESE OVERSEAS GUYS. THEY ARE UPSIDE PICKS. THEY DON’T GET THE CHANCE TO PLAY SOMETIMES. BUT MARKOVIC IS NOT ONE OF THOSE GUYS. HE HAS THE TAPE. HE WAS PRODUCTIVE FOR HIS TEAM. KK MEGA IS A VERY SUCCESSFUL TEAM OVERSEAS. HE HAS VERSATILITY. HE IS A GUY, THERE’S PROBABLY A LOT OF GIANNIS COMING UP WITH THE SIZE AND VERSATILITY HE CAN BRING. I LIKE THIS PICK FOR THE BOX. –FOR THE BUCKS. JAKE: I HAVE SEEN MARKOVIC LIVE AT THE EURO CAMP AND THE NIKE HOOP SUMMIT. HE LOOKS BETTER ON TAPE THAN HE DOES IN PERSON BECAUSE HE IS SO THIN AND NOT AN EXPLOSIVE ATHLETE. BUT HIS SKILL SET FOR A GUY WHO IS 6’11” SHOCKS. I TALKED TO A TEAM IN THE 50’S AND ASKED, DO YOU THINK MARKOVICH WILL BE THERE FOR YOU? HE SAID, NO WAY. THIS IS AN A-. HE SHOT 39 PERCENT FROM DOWNTOWN. VERY GOOD PASSER. HE SCORES THE POST. THE BIG QUESTION WITH MARKOVIC’S PHYSICALITY, AND CAN HE HANDLE IT IN THE NBA? GREG: AND A LEADER FOR BEST NAME. CARTER: THE NICKNAME OPPORTUNITIES ARE MASSIVE. ARE WE GOING BOGO? JUB? IT IS THERE FOR THE TAKING. GREG: MAYBE IT IS JUSTT BOGO STICK. TO 48, WE HAVE THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES ON THE CLOCK. THIS PICK COMES TO THEM FROM GOLDEN STATE. BUT THIS WILL GO TO THE GRIZZ. LET’S SEE WHAT MEMPHIS WILL DO AT 48. IN FACT, LET’S GO TO FISH ON THIS ONE. JAKE FISHER, WHAT IS HAPPENING AT 48? JAKE: IT IS JAYVAUGHN SMALL COMP — JAVON SMALL. I AM WAITING ON CONFIRMATION FOR 49. BUT LAST I TOLD, IT IS GOING TO ROUND OUT THE BROTHERHOOD WITH TYRESE PROCTOR GOING 49. THAT IS WHY I AM WAITING FOR FURTHER CONFIRMATION. I THINK ULTIMATELY WITH SMALL, HE WAS BEING TALKED ABOUT AS HIGH AS THOSE TWO CHARLOTTE PICKS AT NUMBER 33 AND 34. I THINK ONCE ZION JAMES WAS THE GUY AT 33, THAT MIGHT HAVE INDICATED SOME OF HIS FALL HERE. BUT I AM GETTING CONFIRMATION. IT IS TYRESE PROCTOR AT NUMBER 49 TO CLEVELAND. REMEMBER, THIS WAS A SPOT THAT THE CAVS WERE LOOKING TO FIND SOMEONE TO BE ON A SECOND ROUND PICK EXCEPTION, CLEVELAND HAVING PAID A LOT OF MONEY OUT THE DOOR ALREADY TO DARIUS GARLAND, DONOVAN MITCHELL, EXTENDING MOBLEY. THEY ARE GOING TO BE A TAX TEAM FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE HERE AS THE CAVALIERS, WITH BOSTON HAVING JRUE HOLIDAY AND KRISTAPS PORZINGIS, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE COULD POTENTIALLY COME. THERE ARE SOME OTHER TRICKY THINGS BOSTON HAS BEEN UP TO BEHIND THE SCENES, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO TRIM THEIR TAX. CLEVELAND WILL HAVE THOSE EXACT TYPES OF CONSIDERATIONS MOVING FORWARD AS THEY WANT TO BE THE TOP TEAM IN THE EASTERN CONFERENCE MOVING FORWARD. RIGHT NOW, TO LOCK IN SOMEONE ON A MULTI-YEAR DEAL, THAT IS WHAT I’VE GOT FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES WITH THE SITUATION THAT IS NOT ONLY SOMEONE THEY THINK CAN PLAY FOR THEM RIGHT NOW, TYRESE PROCTOR AND THE ROTATION, BUT THIS IS GOING TO BENEFIT CLEVELAND NOT JUST IN THIS SEASON, BUT THE LONG HAUL, LOCKING HIM INTO A MULTI-YEAR DEAL. IT WILL REALLY HELP THE CAVALIERS OVERALL ACCOUNTING, WITH ALL THOSE TAX RESTRICTIONS THAT THE CAVS DON’T WANT TO SEE THEMSELVES IN A POSITION WHERE BOSTON IS AT NOW. ALL OF THESE TEAMS, INDIANA, I WAS TRYING TO JUMP IN BUT YOU GUYS WERE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB I DIDN’T WANT TO INTERRUPT YOU, AT 38, THE PACERS ENDED UP COMING AWAY WITH JONES. THE PACERS MOVEMENT, THEY HAD THE 23RD PICK IN LAST NIGHT’S DRAFT, WHICH ENDED UP BEING ONE OF THE BUZZIEST THINGS. THE PACERS MOVED BACK 15 SPOTS TO GET SOMEONE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE A ROTATION PIECE FOR THEM, TOO. INDIANA MIGHT BE ONE OF THE MORE INTRIGUING FREE AGENCY SITUATIONS COMING HERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO RE-SIGN MYLES TURNER, BUT WHO KNOWS HOW RICH THE PACERS ARE GOING TO BE WILLING TO SPEND MONEY AM I GIVEN THAT TYRESE HALIBURTON COULD BE OUT FOR MUCH OF THE YEAR. SO, THAT WILL DO IT FOR THIS LATEST UPDATE. BACK TO YOU GUYS. GREG: THANK YOU. A LOT GOING ON HERE. THIS IS THE NBA DRAFT PRESENTED BY BY BLEACHER REPORT. JAYVAUGHN SMALL, AN AWESOME PLAYER. THIS KID IS AN ELEVATOR. WHAT I MEAN IS WHEN HE NEEDS TO STEP UP, BIG GAME, BRIGHT LIGHTS, PRIME TIME COMPETITION LEVEL AT ITS HIGHEST, HE SHOWS OUT AND HE IS COMPETITIVE. HE HAS THIS FIRE THAT IS FUN TO WATCH. THE PARTNER HIM WITH COWARD, THEY HAVE PLAYERS WHO MATCH THE DNA OF THE GRIZZLIES. WHAT IS YOUR GRADE FOR JAVON SMALL? >> A+. ONE OF MY FAVORITE SLEEPER PROSPECTS IN THE DRAFT. I THINK THE ONLY REASON HE WAS NOT TALKED ABOUT MORE IS BECAUSE OF HIS SIZE AND ATHLETICISM. I AM NOT GOING TO NITPICK HIS SIZE. FOR A BALLHANDLER, THE SKILL IS WAY MORE IMPORTANT. 19 POINTS A GAME, 1.5 STEALS. 88% FROM THE FREE-THROW LINE. STATISTICALLY, HE DID EVERYTHING, AND THE EYE TEST BACKS IT UP. SUPER CREATIVE, TOUGH SHOT MAKER. I LOVE HIS GAME. GREG: WE ARE GOING TO GO TO 49 NOW. IT IS THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS ON THE CLOCK, AND I BELIEVE THE PICK IS ALREADY IN. JAKE FISHER NAILED THIS. IT IS DUKE’S TYRESE PROCTOR WHO WILL GO TO THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS. NOT ONLY WILL HE GO THERE, HE WILL SIGN A FIVE-YEAR DEAL WITH THE CAVALIERS. AT THIS POINT, I WONDER HOW DEEP WE HAVE TO GO DOWN THE DUKE ROSTER TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE DUKE DRAFT PICKS END. BUT PROCTOR TO CLEVELAND FEELS LIKE A PRETTY DARN GOOD FIT TO ME WITH WHAT HE CAN BRING TO A TEAM THAT HAS VISIONS OF COMPETING FOR A CHAMPIONSHIP NEXT YEAR. CARTER: I LOVE THE FIT. ALSO, I FEEL BETTER OTHER COLLEGE BASKETBALL COACHES. TYRESE PROCTOR BRINGS A CERTAIN ROLE THAT IS CLEAR IN THE NBA. HE IMPROVED AS A SHOOTER. HE IS ABLE TO PLAY WITH A LOT OF OTHER DUKE PLAYERS IN HERE. DEFENSIVELY, HE DID NOT GET ENOUGH CREDIT. HE WAS SOME NIGHTS THE BEST PLAYER. RJ DAVIS WAS SEEING FIVE TYRESE PROCTOR’S. IT IS A CLEAR ROLE FOR CLEVELAND. I THINK IT IS GREAT FOR HIM. I AM INTERESTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS AND GRADE ON THIS. JONATHAN: I LIKE PROCTOR NOT AS A LEAD GUARD, NOT AS A LOTTERY PICK TYPE GUY, BUT IN A TEAM WHERE HE CAN BE A SHOT MAKER. I COMPARE HIM TO LANDRY SHAMET. I DON’T SEE WHY HE CAN’T BE THAT TYPE OF SHOOTER SPECIALIST, BUT CAN ALSO HANDLE THE BALL AND MAKE DECISIONS. THIS IS TOO FAR FOR HIM TO DROP, AND THE PERFECT SPOT FOR HIM TO PUT HIS PLACE AS A SPECIALIST. GREG: PICK 50 TO THE NEW YORK KNICKS, WHO ARE ON THE CLOCK. WHAT DO THEY NEED? CARTER: THEY HAVE THEIR STARS IN PLACE. THEY ARE TRYING TO GET BACK IN A WIDE OPEN EAST NEXT YEAR WITH SOME GOOD TALENT ON FORWARD. A LOT OF GUYS PLAYED A LOT OF MINUTES LAST YEAR, SO I THINK THAT WILL BE BIG FOR THE KNICKS. WE LOOK AT THE PACERS, ONE OF THE BIG PIECES THAT HELPED THEM OUT IS THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD DEPTH ON THEIR TEAM. THE NEXT SLOW DOWN THIS YEAR. LOOKING AT THIS BIG BOARD, A LOT OF GUYS CAN BRING DEPTH. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHERE THEY GO. GREG: HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PLAYING MIND GAMES? CARTER: I DON’T LIKE PLAYING THEM BECAUSE I USUALLY LOSE THEM. GREG: I LIKE PLAYING THEM BECAUSE I USUALLY WIN THEM. I LOOK AT A NAME THAT I THINK WOULD BE A MIND GAME PICK FOR THE NEW YORK KNICKS. CARTER: OOH, A LITTLE BROTHERLY RIVALRY? GREG: COULD WE BASICALLY THROW SOME SHOTS AT THE INDIANA PACERS? HALLIBURTON NEEDS TO COME BACK HEALTHY, BUT COULD WE BASICALLY BE A THORN IN THE PACERS SIDE? CARTER: I CALL THAT AN OFF-SEASON WIN. IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT BASKETBALL. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO WIN OFF THE COURT. GREG: I’M SOLD. I THINK I AM INTRIGUED. WE’VE GOT 11 PICKS LEFT IN THIS DRAFT. I AM LOOKING AT WASS’S BIG BOARD. NEMBHARD IS ONE OF THE PLAYERS WE HOPE GETS SELECTED. CHRIS SEAR. WE TALKED ABOUT KOBE SANDERS AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW. BRYCE WILLIAMS, HUNTER SALAS. ANOTHER GUARD WITH SIZE WHO CAN CONTRIBUTE. IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE HAD QUITE A FEW FLURRIES OF FRONTCOURT SELECTIONS IN THIS DRAFT. NO SHOTS INTENDED AT ANDREW CARR. BUT I THINK THE CUPBOARD IS GETTING A LITTLE BEAR IN TERMS OF FRONTCOURT PROSPECTS. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF WE SEE A RUN OF GUARDS TO END THIS DRAFT. I AM HEARING THE PICK IS IN FOR THE NEW YORK KNICKS AT 50. WE WILL THROW IT BACK TO JAKE FISHER. WHAT DO YOU GOT FROM THE KNICKS? JAKE: I AM SO WAITING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CLIPPERS GAVE UP, BUT THE CLIPPERS ARE MOVING UP ONE SPOT TO TAKE KOBE SANDERS. I WOULD ASSUME IT IS JUST CASH, BECAUSE TO MOVE UP ONE PICK IN THE 50’S IS NOT EXACTLY A HUGE LEAD. BUT THIS IS THE PICK, AND WE WILL SEE WHERE NEW YORK GOES AT 51. MAYBE THEY KEEP MOVING DOWN. I AM WAITING FOR THE WORD. BUT THAT IS WHAT WE GOT FEW YOU AT THIS MOMENT. GREG: THANK YOU, JAKE. THIS IS THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS WHO HAVE SELECTED KOBE SANDERS, THE 50TH PICK IN THE DRAFT. AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT KOBE BRIEFLY AT THE TOP OF THE SHOW IN TERMS OF GUYS WITH HIGH UPSIDE THAT WE THINK COULD BE A LONG-TERM VALUE PICKS IN THE SECOND ROUND. KOBE SANDERS JUST AND ELECTRIC WATCH. WHEN HE GETS GOING, HE IS UNGUARDABLE. THE SIZE HE GOT. HE IS A GUY I THINK WE’LL HAVE TO PLAY SOME WING IN THE NBA, UNLESS HE BECOMES A PRIMARY BALLHANDLER. BUT NO REASON TO BELIEVE HE CAN’T DO THAT GIVEN HIS FRAME AND SKILL SET. WASS, WHAT IS THE GRADE FOR KOBE SANDERS AT 50? JONATHAN: THIS IS AN A FOR ME. EVERY TIME I HAVE TO GIVE A SLEEPERS LIST, KOBE SANDERS’S NAME IS ON IT. YOU HAVE TO TAKE A CHANCE. HE AVERAGED 4.5 ASSISTS PER GAME, SCORES ON THREE LEVELS. THERE’S TOO MUCH OFFENSIVE UPSIDE. I KNOW HE IS NOT A GREAT ATHLETE , BUT HE CAN SCORE IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS. A JUMBO WING THAT CAN SUPPORT A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT WAYS. HAS THREE POINT RANGE. I THINK YOU HAVE TO TAKE THAT CHANCE. CARTER: REALLY GOOD TO SEE KOBE SANDERS GO. I THINK HE DOES PROVIDE THAT UPSIDE. I THINK ON THE WING FOR THE CLIPPERS, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE KAWHI LEONARD. BUT WITH HIS FRAME, EVERYTHING ELSE ABOUT HIM BRINGS A GOOD SPOT. GREG: AT A FUN WATCH. — AND A FUN WATCH. WE BELIEVE AT 51, THIS PICK WILL END UP GOING TO THE KNICKS. WHILE WE AWAIT CONFIRMATION, LET’S TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THE LAST 10 PICKS OF THIS DRAFT. KOBE BRIA, MAXINE RAYNAUD, JAMEER WATKINS. BROOKS BARNHIZER. THEN WE GOT THE SCOOP. ROCCO ZIKARSKY. AMARI WILLIAMS. BOGOLJUB MARKOVIC. JAVON SMALL. TYRESE PROCTOR. KOBE SANDERS TO ROUND OUT THE LAST 10 PICKS IN THE DRAFT. LOOKING BACK ON THAT GROUP, WHAT STANDS OUT AS A MOMENT YOU WILL REMEMBER FROM THIS GROUP? CARTER: I THINK IT IS JAVON SMALL. HE IS SUCH AN ELITE COMPETITOR. EVERY GAME I WATCHED LAST YEAR, ARMOR HIM AGAINST KANSAS. HE TOOK THAT CHALLENGE IS ONE OF THE HARDEST PLACES TO WIN IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. WHEN YOU THINK WHAT MAKES FANS TICK, IT IS THAT GRIT AND GRIND BASKETBALL. I FEEL THAT THE PLAYERS THEY ADDED IN THIS DRAFT WILL HELP. GREG: IT IS FUN TO STEP BACK AFTER YOU WATCH 50 PICKS HAPPEN IN THE NBA DRAFT AND BE REMINDED THAT NBA FRANCHISES HAVE ARCHETYPES. SOMETIMES THEY HAVE DNA. THE GRIZZLIES ARE TOUGH. THE WARRIORS HAVE HISTORICALLY BEEN ABOUT SHOOTING AND SHOTMAKING. THE BROOKLYN NETS APPARENTLY ARE ABOUT CONFUSION AND OVER PASSING. BUT IT IS SORT OF FUN TO WATCH THAT PLAY OUT IN REAL TIME. WE ARE BACK TO 51. THE FINAL 10 PICKS OF THE NBA DRAFT. AGAIN, THIS IS TECHNICALLY THE CLIPPERS ON THE CLOCK. THIS IS GOING TO GO TO THE KNICKS, BARRING ANY LAST-MINUTE MOVE. SO, WE WERE ALLUDING TO THIS BEFORE. I WAS PITCHING A MIND GAME WITH RYAN NEMBHARD. MAYBE TRYING TO IMPROVE THEIR FRANCHISE AND NOT PLAY THE MIND GAME, WHO SHOULD THEY TARGET? CARTER: NEXT YEAR’S –MARK SEARS PROBABLY WATCHES A LOT OF JALEN BRUNSON FILM. THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO GET SOME DEPTH. MAYBE THEY GO MARK SEARS. GREG: THAT IS A NICE THOUGHT PROCESS. THEY HAVE SOME SIMILARITIES IN TERMS OF COLLEGE PLAYERS. THE PICK IS IN. IT IS GOING TO BE MOHAMED D IAWARA, THE FRENCH FORWARD, AT 51. OK, INTERESTING. WASS, MO DIAWARA. WHAT IS YOUR TAKE? JONATHAN: I AM ASSUMING THIS MEANS THEY DID NOT FIND ANYBODY THEY LOVED AND WILL PROBABLY TRY TO STASH DIAWARA. HE IS SIX FOOT EIGHT, A PRETTY GOOD ATHLETE. HE FINISHES PLAYS. HE CAN MAKE OPEN SHOTS. THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN A NEW DEVELOPMENT. BUT THIS IS A PROJECT. THE GUY YOU ARE BUYING, HIS PHYSICAL TOOLS. BUT THIS IS A STATEMENT OF THEM SAYING THERE IS NOBODY WE WANT THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE. HOW CAN I GIVE THIS A GREAT IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO PLAY HIM? THIS IS A B-. I DON’T WANT TO BE RUDE TO DIAWARA, WHO WILL PROBABLY NEVER WEAR A KNICKS JERSEY EVER AGAIN, BUT HE IS 20 YEARS OLD. I HAVE HURT HIS NAME PLENTY THIS YEAR AS A GUY, THERE IS A LITTLE SURPRISE HE STAYED IN THE DRAFT, BUT HE MUST HAVE KNOWN HE WAS GETTING PICKED. SO THE KNICKS WILL OWN HIS RIGHTS. LET HIM PLAY OVERSEAS, AND CHANCES ARE HE ENDS UP STAYING THERE. GREG: I LOVE YOU FOR YOUR KINDNESS AND YOUR WILLINGNESS TO AVOID SAYING THE MAIN THING ABOUT A 20-YEAR-OLD BASKETBALL PLAYER. BUT CART, I KNOW YOU ARE A GUY WHO WILL SAY MEAN THINGS ABOUT A 20-YEAR-OLD BASKET BALLPLAYER. CAN YOU TELL ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE ABOUT MO DIAWARA? CARTER: HE IS TALL AND HAS GOOD WINGSPAN AND STANDING REACH. BUT I THINK THE KNICKS MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A PEEK. I THINK THERE WERE OTHER HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE BOXERS THEY COULD HAVE TAKEN. I THINK THERE ARE SOME PLAYERS WHO COULD HAVE WORN IN — WORN A KNICKS JERSEY. I AM GENUINELY BAFFLED BY THIS ONE. I FEEL LIKE THE NEW YORK AREA TEAMS ARE TRYING TO CONFUSE ME WITH SOME OF THEIR DRAFT PICKS. GREG: LET’S GO BACK TO 52 HERE. THAT WAS A MIND GAME. THAT WAS JUST A MIND GAME FOR US. AT 52, IT IS THE PHOENIX SUNS ON THE CLOCK. HOWEVER, THIS PICK WILL GO TO THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS. A LOT OF MOVEMENT HERE IN THE FINAL 10 PICKS OF THIS NBA DRAFT. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT FOR THE WARRIORS? CARTER: THEY PRIDE THEMSELVES IN BALL MOVEMENT. A LOT OF GUYS WHO CAN PASS. ALMOST 10 ASSISTS A GAME. THEY MOVE THE BALL EXTREMELY WELL. GOT HIS TEAMMATES THE BALL AT GONZAGA. IF THEY WANTED A GUY TO GET BUCKETS, BRYSON WILLIAMS IS ONE OF THE BEST IN THOSE SITUATIONS. HUNTER SALAS IS ALSO REALLY GOOD. GREG: THE PICK IS IN FOR THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS. LOOK, IT IS SHAKE FISHER BREAKING THE NEWS. THE WARRIORS WILL SELECT AUSTRALIAN WING ALEX TOOHEY WITH THE 52ND PICK IN THE NBA DRAFT. ALEX TOOHEY, 6’8″ BAREFOOT. HAD A GOOD YEAR IN THE NBL. ON OFF MALL GUY. IF YOU ENVISION HIM WITH THE WARRIORS, BETWEEN SETH CURRY AND DRAYMOND GREEN. GOOD SIZE FOR HIS POSITION. HOPEFULLY WILL BE ABLE TO CONTRIBUTE ON TWO ENDS. WASS, IS THIS GOOD VALUE WITH ALEX TOOHEY AT 50 DO? — AT 52? JONATHAN: I AM SURPRISED HE SLIPPED THIS LATE. HIS SHOOTING PERCENTAGES FROM DEEP WORK GREAT, BUT THE EYE TEST SEES A SHOT MAKER. AND HE IS VERY GOOD IN THE OPEN FLOOR. MAYBE NOT THE MOST CREATIVE GUY. NOT A GREAT ATHLETE. BUT WHEN HE’S GOT SPACE IN FRONT OF HIM, HE DOES A GREAT JOB OF GETTING TO THE BASKET AND FINISHING ANGLES FOR HIMSELF. SMART PLAYER. THE OFF BALL SCORING AND SINKS — INSTINCTS ARE IMPORTANT. CARTER: YOU PUT A GUY LIKE THAT IN THE WARRIORS SYSTEM, IT IS HARD TO SEE THAT NOT WORKING. ALEX TOOHEY WAS COMMITTED TO PLAYING FOR GONZAGA, ENDS UP PLAYING IN THE NBL. GREAT POSITIONAL SIZE, VERSATILITY.I DON’T SEE HOW IT DOESN’T WORK. GREG: WOULD YOU RATHER PLAY IN THE NBA? CARTER: I WOULD RATHER PLAY IN THE NBA. GREG: I WOULD, TOO. WE ARE TO THE 53RD PICK. IT IS THE UTAH JAZZ ON THE CLOCK. AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE GOT SOME NEWS ON THIS PICK, IS THAT CORRECT? JAKE FISCHER, WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT 53? JAKE: ACCORDING TO LEAGUE SOURCES, THE JAZZ ARE TAKING WISCONSIN GUARD JOHN TONJE. WE HAVE A LOT OF GUYS GOING ON TO A CONTRACTS. THIS IS ANOTHER GUY I EXPECTED. I AM WAITING FOR WORD FROM INDIANA. BACK TO YOU GUYS. GREG: THANK YOU. WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU. JOHN TONJE THE PICK AT 53. A GUY WHO WE ONLY GOT TO SEE ONE YEAR AND OUR BIG TEN CONFERENCE AT WISCONSIN. BUT WHATEVER YOUR EXPECTATION WAS FOR HIM COMING INTO WISCONSIN, HE EXCEEDED IT. HE WAS SENSATIONAL. HE ENDED UP THE SECOND-BEST PLAYER IN THE CONFERENCE, AND UNSTOPPABLE SCORING FORCE IN THAT OFFENSE. HE WAS A FEATURED PLAYER, THE NUMBER ONE PLAYER ON THE SCOUTING REPORT EVERY NIGHT. OFTEN SAW DOUBLE TEAMS, AND IT JUST DID NOT MATTER. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THEY ARE THREE LEVEL SCORES AND COLLEGE. HE WAS A FIVE LEVEL SCORER. HE CREATED LEVELS THAT DIDN’T EVEN EXIST. I AM NOT POSITIVE IT WILL TRANSLATE THE EXACT SAME WAY FROM COLLEGE TO THE NBA, BUT I THINK AS FAR AS LATE DRAFT VALUES GO, THIS IS A GUY WHO WOULD BE WORTH GETTING ON A TWO WAY CONTRACT AND SEEING WHAT YOU’VE GOT. DO YOU AGREE? CARTER: IN ORDER TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, YOU PUT THE BALL IN THE HOOP AND POINTS ON THE SCOREBOARD. JOHN TONJE IS ONE OF THE BEST AT PUTTING THE BALL IN THE HOOP. AN UNDERRATED ATHLETE AS WELL. WE WATCHED HIM LIGHT UP THE CONFERENCE. HE IS VERSATILE, SHOOTS THE BALL, HE HAS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. AT THIS POINT, I THINK THEY GET A GUY WHO WILL GIVE THEM BUCKETS THIS YEAR. JONATHAN: TO SCORE 20 POINTS A GAME IS OBVIOUSLY IMPRESSIVE. 46%, 47% FROM THE FLOOR. 91% FROM THE FREE-THROW LINE. THAT IS A LOT OF TIME. HE IS 24 YEARS OLD, OR GOING TO BE 24. NO, HE’S GOING TO BE 25 NEXT YEAR. SO, THERE’S NOT A LOT OF UPSIDE. WITH NO PLAYMAKING ABILITY, THE MARGIN OF ERROR IS SMALL, BUT THE GUY CAN GET YOU A BUCKET. THIS IS A B+ FOR ME. YOU HOPE HE CAN STICK IN THE LEAGUE BY DOING ONE THING, AND THAT IS FINDING A WAY TO SCORE. GREG: SOMEWHERE, JASE RICHARDSON IS SMILING. HIS FAVORITE PLAYER WAS JUST SELECTED BY THE UTAH JAZZ AT 53. IT IS THE INDIANA PACERS WHO ARE NOW ON THE CLOCK AT 54. MIND GAMES ASIDE, LET’S CALL THIS WHAT IT IS. THEY COULD DRAFT ANDREW NEMBHARD ‘S BROTHER AT 54. RYAN NEMBHARD THIS STILL AVAILABLE. HE IS SIXTH ON WASS’S BIG BOARD. IT AT LEAST HAS TO BE A THOUGHT FOR THE INDIANA PACERS. CARTER: I LOVE BASEBALL, I TRULY DO. YOU KNOW WHAT I LOVE MORE? FAMILY. THEY HAVE THE CHANCE TO GAIN A GREAT BASKETBALL PLAYER AND KEEP BROTHERS TOGETHER. WHAT IS BETTER THAN BASKETBALL PLAYING BROTHERS? IT IS A GREAT THING TO SEE. AND I THINK THEY CAN USE HIM. TYRESE HALIBURTON WILL NOT PLAY NEXT YEAR. THEY ARE ONE OF THE BEST PASSING TEAMS IN THE NBA LAST YEAR. I THINK THAT COULD PROVIDE SOME GOOD DEPTH FOR THEM. GREG: TAKE THE SIBLING ASPECT OUT OF THIS. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A HUGE POINT IF THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE THIS MOVE, BUT JUST THE BASKETBALL PLAYER THAT IS RYAN NEMBHARD, DOES HE WARRANT BEING SELECTED AT THIS POINT IN THE DRAFT? CARTER: I THINK IT HE DOES. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST PASSERS. WATCHING THE PACERS RUN TO THE FINALS, PART OF IT WAS THAT IT NEVER STUCK. EVERYONE WAS PASSING THE BALL, KEPT MOVING. ONE MORE WAS THE TEAM MOTTO FOR THEM. I THINK NEMBHARD WAS ONE OF THE BEST PASSERS IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL LAST YEAR, AND I THINK HE FITS PRETTY WELL WITH THEIR SYSTEM. GREG: LET’S SEE IF WASS LOVE’S FAMILY AS MUCH AS YOU. IS THAT WHO YOU WOULD TAKE? JONATHAN: HELL YEAH. HOW COULD YOU’S UP — HOW COULD YOU PASS UP THAT OPPORTUNITY? FIRST OF ALL, I THINK HE IS A DECENT PROSPECTS. I REALLY DO. PASSING AND IQ TRANSLATE. HE WILL NOT GIVE YOU 15 POINTS A GAME, BUT IT WILL MAKE THE FAMILY HAPPY AND COOL DEVELOPMENT. AT LEAST THE FANS WOULD GET A KICK OUT OF IT. GREG: WE HAVE A CLEAN SWEEP. WE ALL WANT TO SEE IT HAPPEN. IT IS ON THE PACERS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. I AM RECEIVING WORD THAT THE PICK IS IN. LET’S SEE WHAT INDIANA WILL DO WITH THE 54TH SELECTION IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. NO, THEY WILL NOT. [LAUGHTER] THEY ARE TAKING TAYLOR ON PETER — TAELON PETER. I DID A LOT OF BASKETBALL WATCHING FOR THIS SHOW. I DON’T KNOW WHO HE IS. CAN YOU HELP ME WITH THIS? WHO IS TAELON PETER? JONATHAN: I THINK THERE WILL BE NBA TEAMS WHO DON’T KNOW WHO TAELON PETER IS. I’M NOT GOING TO PRETEND THAT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT HIM. HE WAS NOT ON G-LEAGUE, NO INVITE, NOTHING. HE IS A 6’4″ SENIOR. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE AN IL — NIL. A LOT OF GUYS GO BACK AND YOU LOOK REALLY DEEP TO FIND SOME TYPE OF HIDDEN GEM AND YOU GET A GUY LIKE TAELON PETER, WHO I GUESS TWITTER IS GOING CRAZY OVER SAYING, I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS GUY IS. I TRULY BELIEVE THERE WILL BE NBA TEAMS WHO DON’T KNOW WHO HE IS. BUT HE IS A SHOOTER AND HE DOESN’T DO MUCH ELSE. BUT PRETTY ACCURATE. GREG: 45% FROM THREE ON 4.9 ATTEMPTS AT LIBERTY THIS YEAR. HE PLAYED TWO YEARS OF DIVISION I COLLEGE BASKETBALL. HIS FIRST AT TENNESSEE TECH ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2021, THEN AT LIBERTY LAST SEASON. FASCINATING SELECTION. I LIKE YOUR POINT ABOUT A LOT OF THE GUYS THAT WOULD NORMALLY BE SELECTED GOING BACK TO COLLEGE, AND WE ARE SEEING A WEAKER CLOSE TO THIS DRAFT THAN EXPECTED. LET’S GO TO THE FISHBOWL. LET’S THROW IT TO JAKE FISCHER. WHAT THE HELL WAS THIS? [LAUGHTER] JAKE: I DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT IS. WHEN I KNOW IS WHAT IT ISN’T. DENVER WAS TALKING TO INDIANA ABOUT TRADING THE PICK. AND YOU GUYS WERE TALKING RYAN NEMBHARD. I STILL BELIEVE THAT IS WHO DENVER WAS TARGETING. BUT I JUST GOT WORD FROM THE NUGGETS THEY ARE NOT TRADING INTO THIS DRAFT. THEY ARE GOING TO PLAY THE UNDRAFTED GAME. IF RYAN NEMBHARD DOES NOT GET PICKED HERE, MAYBE THE NUGGETS ARE THE LANDING SPOT FOR HIM. IT IS INTERESTING BECAUSE I KNOW THAT DENVER REALLY LIKED ANDREW NEMBHARD WAY BACK WHEN. AND INDIANA JUST INFILTRATED THOSE PLANS. WE WILL SEE WHERE HE GOES HERE. IF HE DOESN’T, I THINK MY LEADER IN THE CLUBHOUSE FOR HIS LANDING SPOT WOULD BE THE DENVER NUGGETS. GREG: WOW, OK. FASCINATING DEVELOPMENT AS WE ALL TRY TO PINPOINT WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE OTHER NEMBHARD BROTHER. WE HAVE THE LAKERS ON THE CLOCK AT 55. HOWEVER, A PROPOSED TRADE IS SET TO SEND THIS SELECTION OVER TO THE CHICAGO BULLS. THINKING OF CHICAGO, WHAT SHOULD THEY BE LOOKING FOR WITH WHAT IS LEFT ON THE BOARD? CARTER: YOU STILL HAVE HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE PLAYERS. I AM LOOKING AT BAITS. HE STARTED HIS CAREER IN THE BIG TEN WITH THE HOOSIERS, TRANSFERRED TO MISSOURI, WAS AN ABSOLUTE DOG DEFENSIVELY. HAS REALLY GOOD MEASURABLES. HIGHLY COMPETITIVE KID. I CAN SEE HIM FITTING WELL INTO THAT CHICAGO TEAM. MARK SEARS, AN ALL-AMERICAN CANDIDATE. HE COULD ALSO POSSIBLY BE HERE. DEFINITELY SOME OPTIONS FOR HIM. GREG: FOR ANY PLAYERS WHO ARE STILL UNDRAFTED AT THIS POINT, I HAVE HEARD THIS THROUGHOUT THE YEARS, I DON’T KNOW HOW REAL IT IS, BUT IF YOU ARE A PLAYER, ARE YOU HOPING TO BE SELECTED IN ONE OF THESE FINAL FIVE PICKS? IS IT THE END OF THE WORLD IF YOU ARE NOT? WHAT IS THE IDEAL? JONATHAN: IT IS A REALLY GOOD QUESTION. IT DEPENDS ON HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HEAR YOUR NAME CALLED ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, BECAUSE I THINK YOU HAVE MORE BENEFITS IF YOU ARE NOT PICKED RIGHT NOW. ONCE THIS DRAFT ENDS, THE THIRD ROUND BEGINS BEHIND-THE-SCENES. YOU REALLY HAVE MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO PICK WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO GO. THE AGENTS GET ON THE PHONE AND MAKE CALLS TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT TEAMS, AND IT HAPPENS VERY QUICKLY. YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS IF YOU ARE NOT PICKED. YOU CANNOT TELL YOUR GRANDCHILDREN I WAS SELECTED, BUT YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS IF YOU ARE NOT DRAFTED. I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OUT THERE WHO ARE FINED IF THEY DON’T GET THEIR NAME CALLED. IN FACT, SOME OF THE AGENTS TELL TEAMS, DO NOT PICK MY GUY. GREG: WOW. THAT IS A FASCINATING PROSPECT. IT REALLY IS. HEARING YOU SAY THERE IS A THIRD ROUND IN THE NBA DRAFT, CAN WE RUN THIS BACK TOMORROW NIGHT? IT IS NIGHT THREE AND US CONSTANTLY PESTERING JAKE FISCHER FOR UPDATES ON WHAT IS HAPPENING. CARTER: I AM SO THANKFUL FOR WASS AND FISCHER. THIS IS GREAT. GREG: IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE. THIS IS GOING TO CHICAGO AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PICK IS IN. REMINDER, IT IS FROM THE LAKERS BUT GOING TO THE BULLS. LET’S SEE WHAT THE BULLS WILL DO WITH THE 55TH PICK IN THE NBA DRAFT. AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE LACHLAN OLBRICH TO THE CHICAGO BULLS. ALL RIGHT. THIS GUY HAS BEEN HOLDING IT DOWN ON WASS’S BIG BOARD FOR THE LAST 10 PICKS OR SO. AND HE WILL HEAR HIS NAME CALLED. BIG-TIME ATHLETE. THIS IS A GUY WHO I THINK IS GOING TO TRANSLATE ATHLETICALLY AT THE NBA LEVEL. AS FAR AS HIGHLIGHT REELS GO, ONE OF THE MORE FUN INTERNATIONAL PROSPECTS IN THIS DRAFT. AND A GUY WHO MADE A LOT OF NOISE AT THE COMBINE. I KNOW HE WAS AN EARLY STAND OUT ON ONE OF THE FIRST DAYS OF THE NBA COMBINE. HOW DO YOU GRADE THIS PICK? JONATHAN: A+. I LOVE THIS PICK. I REALLY LIKE HIM. I THINK HE WILL DEFY THE TRADITIONAL LAWS OF SCOUTING THAT SAY BELOW THE RIM UNDERSIZED MEN WHO DON’T SHOOT THREES CAN’T PLAY. I AM NOT COMPARING HIM, BUT A GUY WHO WINS WITH CRAFTINESS AND FOOTWORK AND COUNTERS AND PIVOTS AND INSTINCTS AND TOUCH. I LOVE THIS KID’S GAME. IT IS A LOT OF FUN TO WATCH. HE HELPED HIS TEAM WIN THE NBL CHAMPIONSHIP. SO, I AM A BIG FAN OF HIS. HE GOT TO SHOW AT THE COMBINE. IT LOOKED LIKE HE BELONGED AGAINST A DIFFERENT CALIBER ATHLETE. I HAD HIM HIGHER ON MY BOARD, SO I AM A FAN OF THIS PICK. CARTER: A GUY THAT I THINK YOU POINTED OUT, YOU WONDER HOW HE SCORES, BUT THEN HE JUST ENDS UP SCORING AND FINDS A WAY TO PUT IT IN THE HOOP. I AM INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT YOU’RE PLAYER COMP IS FOR A GUY LIKE HIM WHO SCORES THE WAY HE DOES. JONATHAN: THINK OF A VERY POOR MAN’S SABONIS. THE IDEA OF SABONIS, A GUY WHO PLAYS BELOW THE RIM AND CONTROLS THE POSSESSION WITH HIS MIND, WITH HIS TIMING, HIS FOOTWORK AND INSTINCTS. HE DOESN’T BLOW BY GUYS, BUT HE JUST KNOWS HOW TO MANIPULATE THE PLAYER WHO IS GUARDING HIM. JUST A GREAT INSTINCTS TYPE OF PLAYER. GREG: THAT IS HIGH PRAISE. DO YOU LIKE THAT COMP? CARTER: I DO. GREG: LACHLAN OLBRICH,, ONE YEAR IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL. HE DID PLAY FOR UC RIVERSIDE BACK IN 2023. A KID WHO HAS BEEN STATESIDE BEFORE. HE AVERAGED 11 POINTS AND SIX REBOUNDS IN COLLEGE. A NINE TO MONITOR FOR SURE. A GUY WHO FITS INTO CHICAGO. I WILL NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE HIM STICK ON THE REAL BULLS TEAM AND NOT FIND HIS WAY TO THE G-LEAGUE NEXT YEAR. FOUR PICKS REMAIN IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. IT IS THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES WHO ARE NOW ON THE CLOCK. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR HEARTSTRINGS, MY FRIEND. WHAT PLAYERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DRAFTED DO YOUR HEARTSTRINGS WANT TO SEE GET THEIR NAME CALLED IN THESE FINAL PICKS? CARTER: THAT IS AN EASY QUESTION. MARK SEARS. HE WAS THE BEST GUARD IN THE BEST CONFERENCE IN BASKETBALL. A LOT OF THINGS THAT MARK S EARS DO CAN TRANSLATE TO THE NBA LEVEL. HE IS CRAFTY, A LEFTY. I THINK THE PRODUCTION HE SHOWED AT BAMA IN ONE OF THE BEST CONFERENCES IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL, IT WOULD HURT ME NOT TO SEE MARK SEARS. GREG: CAN I CALL MY SHOT? I AM NO INSIDER. THIS IS NOT REAL REPORTING. BUT I AM PUTTING MYSELF IN THE SHOES OF THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES RIGHT NOW. TOUGHNESS, GRIT AND GRIND. WHAT HAVE THEY DONE IN THIS DRAFT? JAVON SMALL, CEDRIC COWARD. I AM LOOKING AT WASS’S BIG BOARD, I AM SEEING COULD DARI RICHMOND STILL AVAILABLE. HE FITS THE MOLD OF WHAT THE GRIZZLIES HAVE ALREADY DONE. I HOPE THAT I AM RIGHT BECAUSE IT WOULD INSTANTLY PUT THE GRIZZLIES ON MY GROUP OF WINNERS AT THE END OF THE SHOW, TO SAY THAT I LOVE THE IDENTITY OF THE PICKS. TWO VERY DIFFERENT ANSWERS WITH OUR HEARTSTRINGS WITH FOUR PICKS REMAINING. I AM ALSO LOOKING AT KADARY’S TEAMMATE. A GUY WHO MANY THOUGHT SHOULD HAVE COME BACK TO COLLEGE BASKETBALL. INSTEAD, HE DID THE ACE BAILEY THING WHERE NOBODY KNEW WHAT WAS HAPPENING. HE WOULDN’T INTERVIEW WITH TEAMS. HE ENDS UP GOING TO THE NBA DRAFT. HOW SURPRISED ARE YOU THAT WE HAVE NOT MENTIONED R.J. LUIS? CARTER: YOU ARE LOOKING AT A CONFERENCE PLAYER OF THE YEAR. ONE OF THE BEST PLAYERS FOR ST. JOHN’S. HE DOES A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING. GOOD SIZE, GOOD ATHLETE. I THOUGHT HE MIGHT TEST THE AND IL MARKET. BUT DOUBLING DOWN ON THE NBA, IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE HIM GET REWARDED FOR DOUBLING DOWN ON HIMSELF SO HE CAN HEAR HIS NAME CALLED. GREG: AS I LOOK THROUGH THOSE NAMES, MANY OF THESE NAMES ARE OUT OF COLLEGE ELIGIBILITY. OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD BE BACK IN COLLEGE. R.J. LUIS, THE ONLY ONE I SEE WHO COULD RETURN TO COLLEGE. INSTEAD, OPTED TO GO TO THE NBA DRAFT. WE WILL SEE IF HE IS HAPPY OR SAD WITH THAT DECISION IN JUST A FEW SHORT MOMENTS. THE PICK IS IN FOR THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES AT 56. AND JAKE FISCHER IS GOING TO ANNOUNCE IT FOR US. WHAT DO YOU GOT? JAKE: THE WARRIORS ARE TRADING UP TO TAKE — I HAVE NEVER SAID THIS NAME OUT LOUD. GOLDEN STATE WANTED HIM AT 59. I MEAN, THEY OBVIOUSLY MOVED UP THREE SPOTS TO GET HIM TO SECURE THEIR GUY HERE. THE WARRIORS I THINK WILL BE ROSS DURING THIS PICK AS WELL, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH CLEVELAND EARLIER. WILL RICHARD OFF THE BOARD TO GOLDEN STATE. HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MR. RELEVANT. NOW, HE IS NOT. HE IS NOT THE 59TH PICK. GREG: MR. SEMI RELEVANT, I GUESS, GOING 56. THE GATOR BOYS ONCE AGAIN STAY HOT. HONORARY GATOR BOY ON THIS PANEL IS CARTER ELLIOTT. DO YOU LIKE THIS PICK? CARTER: YEAH BECAUSE THIS WAS ONE OF MY GUYS. WALTER CLAYTON WAS REALLY GOOD. A LOT OF GUYS ALSO GOT CREDIT FOR THIS GATOR’S TEAM. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MADE THIS TEAM GOOD IS WILL RICHARDS PLAYED HIS ROLE TO A TEE. YOU ARE LOOKING FOR GUYS TO COME IN AND ACCEPT THEIR ROLE. YOU CAN DO THAT AND PROVIDE VERSATILITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FLOOR. ALSO, HE IS A WINNER. THE WARRIORS LOVE TO WIN. I FEEL THAT THEY WILL FIT EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO. THEY WANTED THEIR GUY. WASSERMAN, LET’S GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS PICK. JONATHAN: IF YOU WAS A COUPLE YEARS YOUNGER, HE MIGHT BE A LOTTERY PICK. BUT HE IS WELL RICHARD AND IS A VERY GOOD PLAYER. HE WAS NOT ON MY BIG BOARD. ON PAPER, THERE ARE SOME QUESTION MARKS. BUT A VERY GOOD KNOCK DOWN SHOOTER. IF FISH AND OFF BALL SHOOTER. 49% FROM THE FLOOR. HE IS A MISTAKE FREE TYPE OF GUY. I GIVE THIS A B+. I APPLAUD GOLDEN STATE FOR THINKING OUT-OF-THE-BOX HERE, GOING WITH A GUY WHO WAS NOT AT THE NBA COMBINE. DID NOT WORK OUT A LOT. I DID GET TO SEE HIM WORK OUT WITH THE AGENCY OVER THERE. HE IS A KNOCK DOWN SHOOTER. HE WILL NOT BE ASKED TO CREATE MUCH. BUT HE IS A VERY EFFICIENT GUY. CATCH AND FINISH. WE WILL SEE IF HE HAS THE CHANCE TO STICK IN A ROLE AROUND THE ARK. GREG: WITH GOLDEN STATE ADDING RICHARD, IS THAT A GUY YOU THINK CAN TAKE A PUNCH FROM DRAYMOND GREEN? CARTER: YEAH, AND HE MIGHT PUNCH BACK AS A COMPETITOR. HIM AND ELIJAH MARTIN WERE LIKE THE BASH BROS AROUND THE FINESSE THAT WAS WALTER CLAYTON. I LOVE IT. GREG: IT IS A GOOD GUY TO GAMBLE ON. YOU’RE SEEING SOME TEAMS STRATEGICALLY MAKE DECISIONS HERE THAT DO NOT INDICATE THEY ACTUALLY WANT THIS PLAY ARE THEIR NBA ROSTER. I THINK THIS IS A MOVE BY GOLDEN STATE THAT MAY ACTUALLY GIVE WILL RICHARD A CHANCE TO IMPACT THINGS ON THE FLOOR FOR THE WARRIORS NEXT SEASON. WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS. LET’S MOVE TO THE 57TH PICK IN THE DRAFT. IT IS THE ORLANDO MAGIC WHO ARE ON THE CLOCK. A REMINDER, THIS PICK WILL GO TO THE BOSTON CELTICS THROUGH A PROPOSED TRADE. THE CELTICS TRYING TO MAKE ONE MORE SPLASH BEFORE THE STRAP FANS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO DO — BEFORE THIS DRAFT ENDS. WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY ARE TRYING TO DO? CARTER: HE IS A GUY WHO SCORED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL. HUNTER SALAS TRANSFERRING FROM GONZAGA. HE WAS ONE OF THE TOP SCORERS. THERE’S A LOT OF WAYS IT CAN GO FOR A TEAM THAT WILL BE WITHOUT JAYSON TATUM NEXT YEAR AND EVERY PLAYER ON THE ROSTER SEEMS TO BE IN TRADE TALKS. I THINK THEY ARE JUST LOOKING FOR A PIECE TO ADD THAT COULD BRING SOME PRODUCTIVITY. GREG: THE PICK IS IN, AND IF IT IS MARK SEARS, I WILL KICK MYSELF BECAUSE I WILL BE ANNOYED. OK, IT IS MAX SHULGA. THE 57TH PICK IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. OUT OF VCU. I FEEL LIKE I HEARD ANNOUNCERS CONSTANTLY GIVE HIM THE CLASSIC MORE THAN JUST A SHOOTER TROPE. I WANT TO START WITH WHAT HE DOES BEST. IT IS SHOOTING. HE CAN SHOOT UP THE MOVE, SHOOT OFF OF SCREENS. HE IS A GUY WHO HAS GREAT FOOTWORK. HE CAN MAKE CONTESTED SHOTS. HE CAN PUT THE BALL ON THE FLOOR AS WELL. HE DOES NOT SHY AWAY FROM CONTACT. HE IS TOUGH, TIPPY. HOW DO YOU GREAT MAX SHULGA? –HOW DO YOU GRADE MAX SHULGA? JONATHAN: HE REMINDS ME OF RON BAKER FROM YEARS AGO, A COMBO GUARD. HE IS GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE IN THE NBA BECAUSE HE IS A CAREER 39% THREE-POINT SHOOTER. AVERAGED OVER 3.5 ASSISTS THE LAST THREE SEASONS. I THINK HE IS A GUY WHO PLAYS ON AND OFF THE BALL, WILL MAKE GOOD DECISIONS. CRAFTY WITH THE BALL IN HIS HANDS. A VERY RELIABLE SHOOTER. I THINK IS BACKCOURT VERSATILITY IS GOING TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE. CARTER: ONE OF THE BEST THINGS ABOUT MAX SHULGA’S IF YOU ASK HIM RIGHT NOW, I BET YOU HE WOULD SAY HE IS THE BEST GUARD IN THE DRAFT, AND I FEEL LIKE YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT OF IRRATIONAL CONFIDENCE AT THIS POINT. I THINK IT HELPS HIS GAME AND HELP HIM BE A HIGH SHOT MAKER. I THINK THERE IS A WORLD WHERE THEY END UP FALLING IN LOVE WITH MAX SHULGA. GREG: I AM INTRIGUED BY IT MAY BE IF IT IS A BENCH UNIT. THE IDEA OF SILICA AND PAYTON PRITCHARD TOGETHER, I FEEL LIKE THAT IS GOING TO PISS OFF OPPOSING DEFENSES. CARTER: THE FIRST INSTAGRAM POST THEY POST TOGETHER WILL SET THE WORLD ABLAZE. GREG: WE HAVE TWO PICKS LEFT. ON THE CLOCK NEXT IS THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS AT 58. LET’S GO TO WASS’S BIG BOARD. I WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THESE 10 NAMES REMAINING AS WE’VE GOT TWO PICKS WE ARE LOOKING FOR. BRICE WILLIAMS BEST AVAILABLE. MARK SEARS, RYAN NEMBHARD IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR POINT GUARDS. ANDREW CARR TAKEN AS WELL. I DON’T KNOW WHERE THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL GO. IF THEY ARE GOING NOW, CARTON WOULD BE THE B SELECTION. CARTER: THEY WILL HAVE DONOVAN MITCHELL ON THE TEAM. SOME WING SCORING COMING OFF THE BENCH COULD HELP THEM OUT. GREG: THERE’S A LOT OF GUYS WHO DID A LOT OF WINNING IN COLLEGE STILL ON THIS LIST. I THINK THE OPTIONS ARE HONESTLY PRETTY SOLID FOR A TEAM LIKE THE CAVS THAT MAY HAVE THEIR SIGHTS SET ON TRYING TO WIN THE EAST NEXT YEAR, AFTER ALL THAT WINNING THEY DID LAST YEAR. 64 WINS IN THE REGULAR SEASON BEFORE BOWING OUT IN THE CONFERENCE FINALS. WE KNOW THE EAST IS WIDE OPEN. THIS IS THEIR LAST CHANCE TO MAKE ONE BIG SPLASH BEFORE THIS DRAFT ENDS. WASS, GIVEN WHO IS STILL AVAILABLE AT THIS POINT, WHAT NAME DO YOU WANT TO HEAR COME OFF THE BOARD BEFORE THE DRAFT ENDS? JONATHAN: FROM SOURCES AROUND THE LEAGUE, I AM TOLD THIS IS GOING TO BE NYANG. IT WILL PROBABLY BE A DRAFT AND STASH GUY IF THIS DOES HAPPEN. TO ME, BATES NOT GOING AFTER THE PREDRAFT PROCESS HE HAD. MARK SEARS, IT IS CRAZY TO THINK THEY WILL PASS ON HIM. BUT LET’S SEE WHO THE PICK IS. GREG: YOU GOT IT RIGHT. IT IS SALIOU NIANG, TAKEN BY THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS. TALK US THROUGH THIS ONE. WHAT ARE THEY GETTING AND WHAT IS YOUR GRADE? JONATHAN: THIS IS ALL ABOUT DRAFT AND STASH. HOW DO I GIVE A DRAFT AND STASH GUY A GRADE? LET’S GO WITH A B. HE PLAYS IN ITALY. HE IS FROM SENEGAL. HE IS A TWO GUARD. HIS VALUE IS ON THE DEFENSIVE END. HE STRUGGLES A LITTLE BIT AROUND THE BASKET. HE IS NOT REALLY A SHOOTER. HE IS A TOTAL PROJECT. THIS WAS MORE ABOUT HAVING A GUY OVERSEAS, AND YOU HOPE HE DEVELOPS. YOU SAVE YOUR TRAINING CAMP SPOTS FOR OTHERS. GREG: YOU KNOW WHAT THIS IS TELLING ME, CART? THERE’S TOO MANY PICKS IN THE NBA DRAFT. THAT IS MY TAKE AWAY. I FEEL LIKE WE ARE SEEING A BUNCH OF TEAMS GOING, I DON’T WANT THIS PICK. LET ME DRAFT SOMEONE WHO WON’T PLAY FOR ME. CARTER: WE WERE ONE PICK AWAY FROM ME GETTING THROUGH THIS WHOLE DRAFT, HAND UP ACCOUNTABILITY BECAUSE I NEVER LIED TO YOU, I NEVER HEARD OF THIS GENTLEMAN. BUT I WILL DO MY RESEARCH. HE DOES LOOK TO HAVE GOOD MEASURABLES. I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE DRAFT KNOWING EVERY NAME, BUT I DON’T KNOW THIS GUY. GREG: WE TALKED THROUGH THE TAELON PETER MOVE, NOW SALIOU NIANG WITH CLEVELAND. THEY WENT FOR IT THIS YEAR AND MADE DEEP POSTSEASON RUNS, BUT NOT LOOKING TO BOLSTER THINGS HERE WITH ACTUAL DRAFT PICKS. INSTEAD, PLAYING THE DEVELOP MENTAL GAME AND SAVING THEIR ROSTER SPOTS ELSEWHERE. THIS TAKES US TO THE FINAL PICK IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. MR. IRRELEVANT, AS JAKE FISCHER ALLUDED TO EARLIER IN THE SHOW, WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS HERE. 59 TO THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE ODDS ARE ON YOU KNOWING WHO MR. IRRELEVANT WOULD BE? CARTER: I WOULD TAKE A SIZABLE WAGER THAT IT IS MARK SEARS. THE WARRIORS BEING IN THAT SPOT IS WHERE I TEXT YOU YEARS FROM NOW AND SAY, REMEMBER WHEN THE WARRIORS ENDED UP GETTING MARK SEARS WITH THE LAST PICK? LETTING THE WARRIORS GET MARK SEARS? IT WILL FEEL GOOD FOR A GUY THAT PRODUCTIVE IN COLLEGE GETTING DRAFTED HERE. NEMBHARD IS ANOTHER PLAYER WHO COULD BE REALLY GOOD MOVING THE BALL FOR THE WARRIORS. THERE IS SOME REALLY GOOD VALUE, EVEN WITH IT BEING MR. IRRELEVANT. LET’S NOT GET CRAZY. I FEEL LIKE WASS IS AT 10 TO MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. GREG: I AM GOOD WITH THAT. THE SEVEN FOOTER THAT MADE THREE THREES LAST YEAR. THIS HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING FINAL 10 PICKS TO THIS DRAFT. I FEEL LIKE WE CAME IN THROUGH THE 30’S AND 40’S SAYING, YEAH, BEST AVAILABLES GOING OFF THE BOARD QUICKLY. THESE LAST NINE OR 10 PICKS HAVE NOT FELT THAT WAY. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PIX I LIKE. JOHN TONJE IS A GUY I BELIEVE. WILL RICHARD, WE LOVE HIS GAME. ALEX TO HE HAS HIGH UPSIDE. BUT I THINK WE ARE IN STORE FOR ONE SURPRISE BEFORE THIS RAVENS. — BEFORE THIS DRAFT ENDS. IT IS THE HOUSTON ROCKETS WHO ARE TECHNICALLY ON THE CLOCK. BUT NOW I AM HEARING IT IS PROPOSED TO GO TO THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES? FASCINATING. CARTER: VERY INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE THEY GO WITH THIS. GREG: IS THIS THE RESULT OF THE EARLIER TRADE? BECAUSE WILL RICHARD AT 56, THAT WAS A MOVE. YEAH, THIS IS THE WARRIORS’ TRADE. THIS IS THE PAYOFF AT 59. THAT MAKES A LITTLE MORE SENSE. WHAT SHOULD THEY BE GOING FOR IF IT IS FOR MEMPHIS WITH THE FINAL PICK IN THIS DRAFT? CARTER: I THINK THEY ARE VERY PACKED ON THE TYPE OF PLAYER THEY WANT TO DRAFT HERE. MAYBE YOU GO WITH KADARY RICHMOND. I THINK THEY WANT TO GET THESE GUYS AT HALF LENGTH, CAN DEFEND AT A HIGH LEVEL, A GUY LIKE COULD RICHMOND CAN DO THAT. — KADARY RICHMOND COULD DO THAT. GREG: I GOT TO BE HONEST, NIGHT TWO OF THE DRAFT DID NOT HIT THE SAME WITHOUT THE NETS TAKING 57 FOOT GUARDS. DON’T YOU MISS THAT? OH BOY. MEMPHIS, TWO VERY TOUGH PLAYERS THEY HAVE ADDED IN THIS DRAFT. A COUPLE OF GUYS THAT WE FEEL THE ARCHETYPE IS STILL AVAILABLE. BUT LET’S SEE WHO THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES WILL GET. THE FINAL SELECTION IN THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. I WILL SAY, THE NBA DRAFT LIKES TO DRAG THIS OUT. CARTER: THE TIMERS ARE PUT THERE FOR A REASON. WHEN IT HITS ZERO, THE TIME IS UP. GREG: I FEEL LIKE WE’VE HAD THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AT THE PODIUM FOR 45 MINUTES. WHAT DO YOU KNOW, THE PICK HAS BEEN MADE. THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES HAVE SELECTED JAHMAI MASHACK OUT OF TENNESSEE. THIS IS NOT KADARY RICHMOND, BUT IT FITS THE MOLD OF THE GRIND AND TOUGHNESS MENTALITY WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. MASHACK JUST ERASE OPPOSING TEAM’S PRIMARY SCORING OPTIONS, I DON’T KNOW THAT I EXPECTED TO HEAR HIS NAME CALLED. I DON’T KNOW IF HE EXPECTED TO HEAR HIS NAME CALLED TONIGHT, BUT IF IT’S THE CULTURE, THE DNA OF THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES. CARTER: WE TALKED ABOUT WANTING TO GET PLAYERS WHO DEFEND AN EXTREMELY HOT LEVEL. YOU DON’T GET ON THE FLOOR FOR RICK BARNES IF YOU DON’T PLAY DEFENSE AND HE WAS THE BEST DEFENDER ON THE TEAM. I THOUGHT HE DEFENDED A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSITIONS AND HE KNEW THAT WAS HIS ROLE AND HE PLAYED IT WELL. IF HE CAN MAKE SHOTS AT A HIGHER CLIP, HE COULD FIND HIMSELF ON NBA OR A LITTLE MORE. HE IS ONE OF THE BEST DEFENDERS. GREG: YOUR FINAL GRADE OF THE 2025 NBA DRAFT? WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR JAIMAI? JONATHAN: HE’S GOT THE CHANCE TO BE A SPECIALIST. THIS LATE IN THE DRIVER NOT GOING TO FIND AN UPSIDE, YOU’RE LOOKING FOR A GUY THAT DOES ONE THING WELL, HE HAD FIVE STEALS AGAINST KENTUCKY, 11 TOTALING HIS FOUR GAMES. HE IS TOUGH. HE IS EXACTLY WHAT MEMPHIS WOULD BE LOOKING FOR. IT WILL BE AMAZING IF HE CAN MAKE SOME OUTSIDE SHOTS BUT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT HE IS GOING TO BE IN THERE TO DO. GREG: LET’S DO OUR RECAP OF THE FINAL NINE PIX OF THE 2025 NBA DRAFT. SOME NAMES I AM SHOCKED WERE SELECTED, BUT MAYBE I SHOULDN’T BE SHOCKED, BASED ON HOW THESE ARE USED, I WILL PUT IT TO YOU FIRST, WHAT IS YOUR BIGGEST MOMENT OF THE FINAL NINE PICKS OF THIS ROUND? CARTER: I THINK SEEING TAELON PETER COME OFF THE BOARD IS SURPRISING. LOOKING AT THE LAST 10, I CAN’T WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THE FACT THAT MARC SPEARS WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE LAST GUYS PICKED. YOU CAN’T ARGUE WITH PRODUCTIVITY, ONE OF THE BEST CONFERENCES IN THE SEC IN COLLEGE BASKETBALL, I JUST NEED TO LEAD THE CHARGE FOR JUSTICE FOR MARC SPEARS. MAYBE THEY WILL AT ANOTHER POINT GUARD OR SOMETHING BUT I CAN’T BELIEVE MARC SPEARS DIDN’T GO IN. GREG: LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OF THE BEST PLAYERS WE DID NOT HEAR THEIR NAME CALLED IN THIS NBA DRAFT. YOU JUST MENTIONED MARC SPEARS, I THINK HIS ALABAMA TEAMMATE BRENT NELSON WAS A GUY THAT I THOUGHT WE MIGHT POTENTIALLY SEE TAKEN IN THIS DRAFT. YOU’VE GOT KADARY RICHMOND AND RJ LEWIS, BRYCE WILLIAMS I THINK IS ONE OF THE BEST 40’S IN THE DRAFT CLASS IF NOT THE TOP 59. WHAT’S YOUR BIGGEST SURPRISE THAT IS STILL REMAINING ON YOUR BIG BOARD? JONATHAN: LET’S QUICKLY TOUCH ON MARC SPEARS, IT SHOWS HOW MUCH THE NBA TEAMS ARE AFRAID OF THESE SMALL GUARDS. SEARS DOESN’T GET PICKED, IT’S CLEARLY A THEME HERE TO KEEP IN MIND. THE BIGGEST SURPRISE, I THINK FALLING TO 42 WAS THE BIGGEST SHOCKER FOR ME BASED ON THE BUS HE HAD COMING IN AND THE PARTICULAR SKILL SET HE OFFERS, THAT WAS THE BIG SHOCKER TO ME. GREG: WHAT’S A BIG A SURPRISE FOR YOU? CARTER: OUTSIDE OF SEARS, I HAVE TO GO WITH NEMBHARD, IT SEEMS LIKE NBA TEAMS ARE SCARED OF UNDERSIZED GUYS. WHICH BY THE WAY, JUSTICE FOR THE SHORT KINGS OF THE WORLD. HE IS A GUY THAT WAS HIGHLY PRODUCTIVE AND PASS THE BALL AT AN EXTREMELY HIGH LEVEL. HIS BROTHER WAS GOOD IN THE NBA, EVEN THOUGH IT’S KIND OF A SMALLER VERSION OF HIS OLDER BROTHER, IS JUST SURPRISING TO SEE A GUY WHO I THINK, A GUARD WHO GETS OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED IS NOT SOMEONE THAT COULD BE PICKED AT THIS SPOT. GREG: I THINK CLEARLY THE ENTIRE BASKETBALL WORLD SCREAMING THAT SIZE MATTERS RIGHT NOW. JAKE FISHER, I WANT TO THROW IT TO YOU. GIVE US YOUR BIGGEST SURPRISE AS FAR AS WHO DID NOT GET DRAFTED. JAKE: I DO THINK NEMBHARD WAS GOING TO BE PICKED MY SURPRISES WHO DID GET DRAFTED AND WHERE. I’M SURPRISED THAT RYAN CALLED PRINTER WENT TO CHARLOTTE. I’M BEING TOLD RIGHT NOW THAT TAMAR BATES IS TAKING THE TWO WAY WITH DENVER. WITH KALKBRENNER, IT’S A SURPRISE, BUT DON’T BE SURPRISED IF HE ENDS UP BEING CHARLOTTE’S STARTING CENTER ON NIGHT ONE. ON THE FLIPSIDE, SOMEONE I THINK WAS RIGHT IN THE MIX AND ALL THE KINGS ATTEMPTS TO TRADE IN THE FIRST ROUND, IF CLIFFORD WENT EARLIER I THINK HE SUMMONED THEY WOULD’VE TAKEN IN THE BACK OF THE FIRST SO I’M SURE THEY ARE PUMPED TO GET HIM. THAT’S WHAT I’VE GOT FOR YOU GUYS RIGHT NOW. GREG: THANK YOU, JAKE. STANDBY FOR US BECAUSE I WANT TO GET YOUR WINNERS AND LOSERS TO IN THE SHOW AS WELL. LET’S PIVOT TO THAT NEXT. GIVE ME YOUR BIGGEST WINNER AND BIGGEST LOSER FROM THE NBA DRAFT. CARTER: I THINK THE MEMPHIS GRIZZLIES HAD A CLEAR VISION, THEY GOT GUYS AT A HIGH LEVEL AND I REALIZE THAT PART OF WINNING IN THE NBA IS ESTABLISHING THE CULTURE AND A GRIZZLIES HAVE THIS CULTURE THAT EMBODIES HER CITY. THEY PLAY TOUGH COME THEY COMPETE, AND EVERY SINGLE DRAFT PICK THEY GOT DOES THAT. FOR A TEAM THAT WANTS TO ESTABLISH A WINNING CULTURE AND GET BACK TO THE HIGH LEVEL TYPE BASKETBALL THEY PLAY THAT ONE THEM SO MANY GAMES, THIS TEAM COULD VERY MUCH DO IT. GREG: GIVE ME YOUR BIGGEST WINNER AND LOSER. JONATHAN: I LIKE JAMEER WATKINS GOING TO WASHINGTON, I THINK THAT WAS A VERY SOLID PICK. THE TYPE OF PLAYER THEY CAN CERTAINLY USE. TREY JOHNSON YESTERDAY WAS A BIG SCORE. LOOKING FOR A LOSER NOW, I GUESS LOSER IS A GUY LIKE MARK SEARS, HOW MANY BIG GAMES HAS HE PLAYED IN HIS COLLEGE CAREER IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GET HIMSELF PICKED, I FEEL FOR HIM BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH PRODUCTION HE PUT UP AND I THINK BECAUSE HE MEASURED WHAT HE MEASURED. GREG: ON THAT NOTE, MY BIGGEST LOSER IS ANOTHER COLLEGE ORIENTED PLAYER, IT’S RJ LEWIS. THIS IS A GUY WHO LEFT AND I’LL EARNINGS ON THE TABLE. HE WOULD’VE GOTTEN ANY ENORMOUS CHECK, POSSIBLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHECKS FROM A BLUE BLOOD TYPE PROGRAM IF HE CHOSE TO STAY IN COLLEGE. INSTEAD, HERE HE IS NOT HEARING HIS NAME CALLED ON THE NBA DRAFT. AS FAR AS THE WINTER GOES, I’M STICKING WITH MY COLLEGIATE TEAM HERE, BUT HOW IS IT NOT DUKE? THAT WAS ONE OF THE STORIES FOR ME OF THIS ENTIRE DRAFT. OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE THE NUMBER ONE PLAYER, THIS TEAM WAS PHENOMENAL. WE KNEW HOW GOOD THEY WERE IN THE MOMENT BUT IT REALLY WAS A REMINDER OF HOW SPECIAL THAT COLLECTION OF TALENT WAS LAST YEAR AND SOME OF THESE GUYS HAVE NOW PAIRED UP FOR THE NEXT UP FOR THE NEXT STEP IN THEIR CAREER. THERE WAS A MOMENT LAST NIGHT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT, CAUGHT ON CAMERA AS ONE OF HIS TEAMMATES WAS DRAFTED, HIS REACTION WAS SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT VIDEO. >> WHEN THE LOTTERY HAPPENED AND MAVS GOT THE NUMBER ONE PICK, I SAID THIS KIND OF FEELS LIKE DESTINY. WHAT RAN THROUGH YOUR HEAD WHEN YOU SAW THAT? >>WHOO! OH MY GOD. >> I LOVE THAT LIVE REACTION. HOW ARE YOU FEELING WATCHING YOUR TEAMMATE GET DRAFTED? >> IT IS SURREAL. THAT WAS MY ROOMMATE LAST YEAR. IT’S JUST INSANE. IT REALLY JUST GAVE ME CHILLS. THAT WAS GREAT. GREG: HEARTWARMING MOMENT ALSO TELLS ME THAT WE NEED TO GET COOPER FLAGG TO FOLLOW OUR GUYS BECAUSE HE SHOULD NOT OF BEEN THAT SURPRISED. CARTER: WHEN WILL YOU EVER GET THAT EXCITED FOR ME? GREG: I FEEL LIKE THAT’S MY REACTION EVERY TIME YOU SEE ME CHUG A BEER. I DON’T KNOW, I DIGRESS. I WANT TO GET FISH’S BIGGEST WINNER AND LOSER OF THE DRAFT AS WELL. >> WE HAD TWO PLAYERS WHO HAD THEIR DRAFT RIGHTS TRADED. THE FIRST WAS NEW YORK. I’M BLANKING ON THE GUYS NAME. BUT THEN JUSTINIAN JESSUP, WHO GOLDEN STATE ENDED UP TRADING IN THAT PACKAGE WITH THE 59TH PICK, TO GET UP TO 56 TAKE WILL RICHARD, AND A LOSER — I MEAN, I’D SAY THE PACERS BEING THAT MAYBE THEY GOT A LITTLE TOO INSIDE BASEBALL, I WAS TEXTING WITH A FRIEND AT THE FRONT OFFICE AND THEY WERE LAUGHING AND HAPPY THAT THE BROADCAST APPARENTLY DID NOT HAVE FOOTAGE TO PLAY OF HIM, WHICH MAYBE THAT MEANS THEY ARE OVERTHINKING IT. BUT CLIP THIS IF TAELON PETER BECOMES ESSENTIAL, BUT FOR NOW I DON’T THINK IT’S GREAT WHEN YOU’RE LIKE, NO ONE HAS A CLIP OF THIS GUY, THAT’S HOW SMART WE ARE UNEARTHING THIS HIDDEN GEM. I DON’T BUY THAT. GREG: I WAS LAUGHING LAST NIGHT, THAT’S LAME, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THESE GUYS. AND THEN TWICE IN THE FINAL 10 PICKS TONIGHT, UNLIKE, I HAVEN’T HEARD OF THIS. THAT’S A CHAOS OF THE NBA DRAFT. IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE SOME MARK SEARS NEWS BEFORE WE WRAP THE SHOW. HE ASSIGNED A TWO WAY NBA DEAL WITH THE MILWAUKEE BUCKS. YOUR THOUGHTS ON A POTENTIAL FIT WITH THE BUCKS FOR MARK SEARS? CARTER: I LIKE THAT, A GUY WHO SUPPORTS BASKETBALL, I THINK MARK SEARS IS A GUY THAT CAN PLAY RIGHT AWAY. HE MIGHT BE UNDERSIZED BUT YOU CAN’T ORG YOU WITH THE PRODUCTION. — YOU CAN’T ARGUE WITH THE PRODUCTION. EATING MARK SEARS, AND ALL-AMERICAN PRODUCTIVE PLAYER ON A TWO-WAY DEAL FOR A MILWAUKEE BUCKS TEAM THAT NEEDS TALENT, YOU GOT TO FEEL GOOD ABOUT THAT. GREG: ANY THOUGHTS ON SEARS TO THE BUCKS? DID THIS WORK OUT OK FOR ONE OF OUR FAVORITE PLAYERS THAT WHEN UNDRAFTED? JONATHAN: I DON’T THINK IT REALLY MATTERS WHERE HE GOES. I GUESS THINGS HAVE CHANGED IN MILWAUKEE BUT REGARDLESS WHETHER HE’S PLAYING FOR THE BUCKS OR WHOEVER ELSE, WHEN YOU’RE PLAYING IN SUMMER LEAGUE, IS THE JERSEY YOU ARE WEARING. EVERYBODY’S WATCHING YOU PLAY. AGAIN, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHERE HE INS UP. HE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO GET A TWO-WAY DEAL AND NOW HE’S GOT TO MAKE THE MOST OF IT. HE WILL HAVE TO WORK HIS WAY UP REGARDLESS. GREG: AT A BARE MINIMUM A CONSOLATION PRIZE OF WHO HE PLAYS AGAINST. LET’S GO AROUND THE HORN ONE LAST TIME, I’LL GIVE YOU A CHANCE TO GIVE YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS AND A SIGNOFF AS WE CLOSE THE SHOW. LET’S THROW IT TO WASS FIRST, WHAT ARE YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS? JONATHAN: IT JUST GOES BY SO FAST. PROPS TO THE SECOND ROUND CLOCK PEOPLE BECAUSE LAST NIGHT WAS RIDICULOUS HOW LONG THAT FIRST ROUND TOOK. THIS ONE AT LEAST WE GOT DONE IN LIKE TWO AND A HALF HOURS. I THOUGHT THIS WAS A STRONG DRAFT. ESPECIALLY COMING UP LAST YEAR, I FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THIS DRAFT, WE WILL LOOK BACK AND REMEMBER THIS ONE, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF COOPER, BUT BECAUSE SOME OF THESE GUYS IN THE TOP FIVE. I THINK WE’VE GOT SOME GOOD PLAYERS HERE IN THE SECOND ROUND. I’M FEELING PRETTY GOOD ABOUT 2025. GREG: LET’S THROW IT TO JAKE FISHER IN THE FISHBOWL. I’VE HAD FUN WITH YOU THE LAST TWO NIGHTS, MY FRIEND. GIVE US YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS. JAKE: LIKE I SAID, THE WAY YOU GUYS HAVE TAKES AND CAN ROLL ON ALL THESE DUDES, EVEN THE ONES YOU DON’T KNOW, IT’S IMPRESSIVE. SO SHOUT OUT TO Y’ALL AND THE GREAT WORK. I WOULD SAY WAS DEFINITELY A DRAFT OF TRADES FOR ME. I JUST COUNTED 15 OF THE 29 PIGS IN THE SECOND ROUND GOT MOVED TONIGHT. 10 IN THE FIRST ROUND, AND OBVIOUSLY WE SAW A LOT OF VETERANS GETTING MOVED BEFORE THE DRAFT KICKED OFF EARLIER THIS WEEK, STARTING WITH THE KEVIN DURANT TRADE. ON SUNDAY ONLY ONE VETERAN PLAYER GOT MOVED IN THE DRAFT. MARK WILLIAMS, BUT JUST LOOKING AHEAD TO FREE AGENCY, IT’S ALREADY STARTING, THESE TWO WAY DEALS THAT ARE BEING SIGNED ARE TECHNICALLY FREE AGENCY CONTRACT BEING SIGNED RIGHT NOW THAT WILL ALL APPLY TO THE MORATORIUM PERIOD UNTIL JULY 6. THERE WILL BE MORE TRADES COMING UP ESPECIALLY WHEN THE LEAGUE CALENDAR FLIPS AND A LOT OF THESE TEAMS WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR EXCEPTION. A LOT OF THOSE WILL BE USED FOR TRADES NOW AND WE STILL HAVE THE ATLANTA HAWKS WITH HER $25 MILLION TRADE EXCEPTION OUT THERE TO BE USED TO SIGN OR TRADE. IF YOU WANT TO PRY AWAY, EVEN THE WASHINGTON WIZARDS TO HELP FACILITATE A TRADE. THERE’S BEEN 25 TRADE SO FAR IN THE DRAFT. THERE WERE FIVE OR SIX TRADES THE WEEK BEFORE THE DRAFT. THERE ARE MANY MORE TRADES TO COME, SO STAY TUNE FOR ALL THAT. GREG: THAT’S MUSIC TO NBA FANS EARS, IF YOU ENJOYED THIS DRAFT AND THE CHAOS OF ALL THESE TRAITS COME THERE IS MORE TO COME. THANKS FOR THE KIND WORDS, J, AS WELL. CARTER, HAD A BLAST WITH YOU, WE’VE DONE THIS IN OUR BASEMENT SO GETTING TO DO IT ON A PLATFORM LIKE THIS WAS PRETTY AWESOME. WHAT IS YOUR FINAL TAKE AWAY FROM THESE TWO NIGHTS? CARTER: SO MUCH TALENT IN THIS NBA DRAFT, A LOT OF FUN WITH ALL THE CHAOS WITH THE TRADES AND PICKS. WASS, YOUR STYLE IS IMPECCABLE, YOU REALLY PUT IT ON. FISCHER, EVERYTHING I NEEDED IN THE FISHBOWL. YOU ARE SPECIAL, MY FRIEND. IT WAS A GREAT TIME. INTERESTING TO SEE SOME OF THESE TWO WAY GUYS GET SIGNED. SUMMER LEAGUE IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER SO BASKETBALL WILL BE AT OUR FINGERTIPS. GREG: MY FAVORITE THING ABOUT BASKETBALL PLAYERS IS WHEN THEY PLAY BASKETBALL. ANGST TO EVERYONE BEHIND THE SCENES AT BLEACHER REPORT, THIS WAS AN AWESOME SHOW. I WILL REMEMBER THIS DRAFT, WHETHER WAS PHOENIX PAIRING A VETERAN CENTER, WHERE THERE WAS THE BROOKLYN DRAFT WE MADE JOKES ABOUT, GETTING ALL THAT PLAYMAKING. WE SAW WASHINGTON AND UP WITH A COUPLE OF HUGE WINGS, CHARLOTTE GOT A BUNCH OF CULTURE GUYS THAT CAN SHOOT THE BASKETBALL. WE FELT LIKE TEAM AFTER TEAM CAME IN WITH PLANS, THE EXECUTED THOSE PLANS AND FOR THE MOST PART IT WAS REALLY FUN TO WATCH AND PLAY OUT. WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED IT AS MUCH AS WE DID. IF YOU WATCHED US THESE LAST TWO KNOTS, THANK YOU SO MUCH. BLEACHER REPORT HAS A LOT MORE NBA COVERAGE FOR YOU IN-STORE. FOR OUR ENTIRE TEAM BEHIND THE SCENES, THANK YOU FOR WATCHING THE NBA DRAFT CLASS. ♪

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