What makes a BETTER NBA: SUPER TEAMS OR PARITY? 🤔 Markieff Morris says FANS LIKE GOLIATHS! | Get Up

What makes a BETTER NBA: SUPER TEAMS OR PARITY? 🤔 Markieff Morris says FANS LIKE GOLIATHS! | Get Up

the second apron needs a new name i am proposing Satan’s jail say the Celtics are in Satan’s jail it sounds like wow they really got to trade Chris Porzingis you know we’re really trying to avoid Satan’s jail yeah
because if we get into Satan’s jail we might have to trade number 15 people would think about this differently whether you want to call it Second Apron whether you want to call it Satan’s jail you want to give me another name I can use that’s fine ah the woodman but the second apron needs a new name greening nobody smiles in Satan’s jail that’s exactly right that’s exactly right
teams go to die
and there are some teams that are there right now like the last two NBA champions before this one the Celtics and the Nuggets and let’s talk about both of them because they’re both very much in the news as we begin another hour of Get Up the Celtics yesterday traded Chris Taps Porzingis to Atlanta it’s a three-team deal that involves the Brooklyn Nets it’s not a surprise we knew they were going to trade away Drew Holiday which they did and then Porzingis which they did why did they do those things because 10 days ago the Celtics were in Satan’s jail they were projected to pay $540 million in salary and luxury tax according to our Bobby Marks with the trades that they made in the last two days they’ve saved $260 million and they will have a combined tax bill under 300 million and I agree with you all kidding aside the terminology all these rules they’ve put in while I think they are working are extremely complicated let’s not go through them let’s ask the stuff Basketball fans care about do they still have trades to make here particularly their superstars probably the biggest question on the league’s mind today because they are now out of the second apron jail whatever you want to call it but will they want to get under the luxury tax they have reasons to do that and today is draft day there are teams in the top 10 that are interested in making offers for Jaylen Brown will the Celtics entertain them is there somebody at the top of the draft that they would consider enough that they would do it all I can say right now is the Celtics are listening if you call the Celtics with the trade offer you’re not going to get hung up on i am very skeptical that they will trade Jaylen Brown because they have accomplished their primary goal which is to get out of the second apron and retain Jaylen Brown Jason Tatum and Derek White but today is the day to make an offer and that’s what we’re going to be watching so for the folks who are wondering is there a player in this draft good enough that it would be worth considering trading Jaylen Brown especially considering Cooper Flag is not on the market that that’s not going to be an option i have the perfect person here to ask that question to my uncle Seth seth Greenberg no relation is there a player in this draft that’s that kind of good
i wouldn’t do this but Dylan Harper is potentially that type of kind of good i you’re talking about a 6’6 in guard terrific in ball screen sees over defense the pedigree he comes with all right he understands what it takes to win a championship he’s got a toughness a physicality a versatility he’s a terrific finisher at the rim needs to shoot it a little bit more consistently but he has the identity and the DNA of a Celtic player a guy that you can build with Jason Tatum now here’s my deal you’ve already proven Derek White Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum can deliver you a NBA championship that to me makes no sense i understand 300 million no I don’t understand 300 million but it’s a lot of money i understand that in terms of the ability and not wanting to get where are we going to Satan’s what
satan’s jail we’re staying
stay out of it so I understand that but when you have those three guys together you have a culture and an identity that is championship caliber i can’t imagine Brad Stevens moving away from that as much as culture means to him
so Marke Morris if at some point today you receive an ESPN alert on your phone that says Shams is reporting the Boston Celtics have traded Jaylen Brown what words will come out of your mouth it would probably be what the hely because Jaylen Brown they are they are a year removed from winning the championship right i mean obviously they let it be known even before the playoffs that they were getting rid of some of these pieces and getting under the salary cap so I mean they’re doing the right thing brad Stevens always been a mastermind when it comes to these things and they’re getting pieces to see how it work with Jason Tatum right because be honest they they will compete in the East but they can’t win a championship without one of their best players so this is a time for Jaylen Brown to to come into his own right he’s always he’s already been a good player in this league is now time for him to take the step and be a 1A uh lead some of these guys and really get a good look at these guys and see what it looks like when Jason Tatum come back the following year i’
I’ve said it before it reminds me of 1994 Michael Jordan went off to play baseball that people thought the Bulls should just break up scotty Pippen I will go to my grave saying should have been the MVP of the league that year he showed just how good he was maybe Jaylen Brown can do the same thing in Boston if they don’t trade him now the Celtics are not the only recent champion being affected by Satan’s jail the second apron denver Nuggets team president Josh Kroni yesterday unprompted brought up a scenario where the Nuggets might have to trade Nola Joic i’m sorry what for us as an organization uh going into that second apron is not necessarily something that we’re scared of uh I think that there are rules around it that we needed to be very careful of with our injury history um the wrong person gets injured and very quickly you’re into a scenario where uh that I never want to have to contemplate and that’s trade number 15 um and so uh you know we’re very conscious of that pushing forward so I mean look so look we know it’s a popular thing to do these days and I kind of believe in it and that and that is sort of manifesting things that you want saying out loud things putting them into ether that you want there he is talking about our injury history well in the event that we have terrible devastating injuries that destroy our team we might have to trade Nola Joic try and forget I just said that but I mean the world reacted strongly yesterday what what’s the right reaction to that
a lot of head slapping took place uh within in that room and across the NBA first off they are not going to trade Yokic what I think is most important is the effect here of the second apron aka Satan’s jail he says “I’m not afraid of it we’re not scared of it.” I actually think that he is because he says “This is what could happen.” And this is what we’re seeing these moves these moves of these contenders by the way they’re already affecting the Nuggets the reason that the Nuggets have not been able to get back to the finals last two years their team has not been as good because they have not been able to retain role players because they are afraid of the second apron which is biting right now the teeth of the apron are out we are seeing it across the league and just the fear of it has Josh Kroni a very smart reasoned executive saying things like this
the apron has teeth markeefe you made an interesting point this morning about the usage of words in in that press conference ah yeah the uses of trade injury and jokage in the same sentence is like like as an athlete using and as a athlete just hearing the word trade and injury is like whoa but not only with what has been happening in these past couple weeks in the playoffs right you had about four or five players go down with uh a injury that they’re going to miss a whole season so that right there as an athlete and just as a player just hearing those words but I mean it comes from the same guy that fired their coach two years removed from a championship they was 47 and 32 you fired the coach and the general manager on the way to the playoffs so I’m really not I’m not surprised for real
yeah it’s crazy when you really stop and think about it now let’s so so we don’t think they’re going to trade Nicole Yokic so let’s not get nuts everybody in Denver losing their mind
i say contemplate but he’s firing up the jet right now he’s on his way to see Nola right now a text message is not sufficing
that’s exactly right we’re not trading you big fella so okay let’s talk about what this second apron really has done okay adam Silver set about trying to create a league in which the smaller markets had a chance to compete once upon a time Bud Celig did the same thing in Major League Baseball and it worked there and it has worked here look at these numbers david Stern was the commissioner of the NBA for 30 years eight different franchises won the title in the 10 years that Silver has been the commissioner the same number of teams have won including seven different winners in the last seven years which has never happened before it is a different ecosystem and what I think is a reasonable question to ask is which is a healthier sports league i know what my opinion is but I’m interested to hear I’m interested to hear what fans think seth I’ll be I’ll start with you which is a healthier sports league one that has seven different champions every year and every now and again you’re going to get people saying “Oh these are small markets oh we don’t have big stars oh we don’t have this and that.” Or you have a league where LeBron plays Steph in the finals four consecutive years and and and but people are into it everyone has a rooting interest and you have heroes and villains which is actually the better league
i think where it is right now i think having everyone have an opportunity to win a championship look you talk about the last seven years but if I’m not mistaken in the last seven years the Lakers have won a championship boston has won a championship i think the Heat has won a championship golden State has won a championship so those organizations all right the blueb bloodoods are like if I would say like hey we had four number ones go to the final four this year in the Bay tournament you know what hasn’t happened in a long time but it can happen but to me this is the best thing for the health of the league because you either you’re going to be competitive or you’re going to be basically a guarantee game you don’t need 20 guarantee games the more good teams you have in the NBA the better it is for the health of the NBA because the more competitive the games are so to me I think this is the best uh best answer for long-term success and getting more people actually uh engaged and and bought into the good league
yes i mean among the teams that have won in this span are OKC for the first time Denver for the first time Toronto for the first time Cleveland
Cleveland uh Cleveland won it with with LeBron so that’s almost that that changes the dynamics but what the point I’m trying to make is if you’re going to tell me it’s bad for the league for those teams to be there then they shouldn’t be there you shouldn’t have teams where it’s bad for you if they wind up being good that’s not the object of the exercise i I’m interested from an active player markeefe the players themselves do they like the super teams do they like it when you know LeBron and Wade and Bosch or or you know more recently Durant and Kyrie and James Harden they decide we’re going to go team up and play someplace together those days are over was it better when they could do that from a players perspective or do you like it better now uh uh uh from a player perspective no it definitely wasn’t better we we would like the the league to be more structured in a way where you know everybody can be can be successful with with how they grow their team right not not just one team being able to go get uh three four of the top players but as a fan I would like to be able to see the Goliath teams i would like to be able to see like these superstars you know link up together and win two or three championship or start a dynasty or be that good and then you have a David be to come knock him down like the storyline of that sells more for the NBA purpose but as a player no I would I would I would like to see these teams grow homegrown these players kind of like OKC and just see what they turn into
listen I I I think there are a lot of fans who feel the way he just described and you’re more than entitled to your opinion i’m not sitting here telling you what I what you should think or I can tell you what I think wendy what does the league think
let me just say two realities one the players get 51% of the revenue so whether that’s spread across 30 teams or spread across five teams every dollar the league makes the players get 51 cents of it so it’s not costing the players any money it may cost them some freedom about where they want to go but it’s not costing them any money the second thing is who makes the rules who makes the rules is the 30 owners and there are more small and mid-market owners than there are big market owners the Lakers represent the Lakers and Celtics represent the lion share of championships they each get one vote oklahoma City Indiana Denver Cleveland Milwaukee they can outvote them so there was a lockout in 2011 that fixed the money the last three CBAs the owners have continue to make ground and ground and ground in making it more competitive balance here we are
yeah and and I’m curious to hear what fans think we’ll talk about it as the morning and as the summer continues which is the healthier league the one with the super teams or the one where it feels like everyone has a chance but I look like anywhere I pull up with the heat [Applause]

Brian Windhorst, Seth Greenberg and Markieff Morris join Mike Greenberg on Get Up to react to the Boston Celtics trading Kristaps Porzingis to the Atlanta Hawks, Denver Nuggets President Josh Kroenke casually suggesting trading star Nikola Jokic, and debate whether an NBA with super teams or with parity is better.

0:00 “Satan’s Jail”
0:45 Celtics trade details
1:41 More trades in store?
2:44 Dylan Harper worth Jaylen Brown?
5:10 Nuggets suggestion
7:16 Would they trade Jokic?
8:14 New NBA Champions last 8 years
8:55 Super teams or parity?
11:30 Player vs. fan perspective

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