Atlanta Hawks Offseaosn So Far W/Kevin Chouinard

Atlanta Hawks Offseaosn So Far W/Kevin Chouinard

Welcome in Hawks fans. Your boy Bryce Lewis back at it again for another believe in Hawks episode. Obviously, a lot has happened. We’ve talked about it. Things are still going to happen as we continue to fill out this roster and continue through this off season. A lot of people are excited right now. And so, you know, we still have a lot of things that, you know, like I said, people have questions about. And for that, I wanted to bring a special guest on. Kevin Shannard, he writes for Hawks.com. You may have seen my other podcasts. Uh he’s a guy who, you know, he’s been covering the scene for for a while now, I believe. And um first time on Believe in Hawks, man. How how are you today?
Very good. Very good. Be beautiful day out today.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I don’t know if it’s hot where you at, but you know. Yeah, it was a dry heat today. It was It was nice to have a dry heat instead of a wet heat for once.
Oh yeah, because usually humid. Yeah, that definitely is nice for sure. And everything. So, but you know, speaking of heat, some people say the Hawks are heating up, Kevin. And you know, I wanted to dive right into that and just ask my first question to you. And it’s just as simple as after the moves that we’ve seen so far for this team, how do you feel about the current version of the Atlanta Hawks right now? I think it’s a time to feel great about the the Atlanta Hawks. I mean, they should be a contender if they stay healthy. And that, you know, the track record right now is they have a lot of players who haven’t stayed healthy. Um, and this feels like a copout because it’s like what what can you really say about it? Because
yeah,
you know, maybe they’ll stay healthy, maybe they won’t. Um, they certainly have a deep team now that can kind of maybe cope with some of this better than they have in the past, but man, if they if they stay healthy, they they have got the horses in an Eastern Conference, it’s pretty widely depleted even before the season starts. Yeah, and that’s true. I think that’s where I think a lot of people feel right now in the Eastern Conference. It’s so wide open. A lot of injuries to top stars on certain teams. We know Boston’s kind of going through a bit of a retooling period with Tatum out. Pacers just lost Miles Turner. Tyresese Hallebertton probably out for the year next year as well. People not sure if they can believe in Cleveland yet. Magic are a team that some people think could be on the rise. But overall, I mean, it’s a very And obviously the Knicks, you know, which which I I can get into the Pistons.
Yeah. are kind of stacking up a little bit. Like you look at the East to me now it’s like the Pistons look pretty good.
Hey, some people don’t know cuz some people are like ah I wonder how much Malik Beasley is going to get him because you know when they replaced MC Harris it was like that’s more of a score not a shooter. So I mean it’ll be interesting to see uh what K can do second year with some expectations and how the team continues to grow. So, I mean, I guess going into that, I mean, if you go back to the Eastern Conference Finals year, that was not expected when they made the run for a lot of people. They were just wanting to make the playoffs and then they made it. Expectations changed. We can we can argue should they have changed, but it happened. Now, this is a little different because I think coming into this offseason, people knew like, all right, next year’s this coming year is a crucial year and they made changes in the front office. They’ve done some things to get themselves where they need to be. Aie has so far emboldled themselves to the f to the Hawks fans. They love right now. Um, for you when you came into this off seasonason, what was what was the number one thing that you wanted to see from the Hawks? And do you feel like they have done that so far? Yeah, I think so. Uh I think the main thing was shooting. Like they just need more shooting. Again, they needed more health first of all. Like they just they had a pretty good team at the end of the year. It’s just like, well, if Jaylen Johnson was here, this would look great if Jaylen Johnson wasn’t there. But like now they’ve got some depth, but more importantly, I think they’ve got some shooting. the the three main players that they added in Porzingis, Alexander Walker, Canard, like they may be the three best shooters on the team now. Like
I’m not sure that you know Trey is kind of a different kind of shooter, more off the bounce and and you know, kind of high risk, high reward, kind of spread out the defense, but like just in terms of like who’s going to actually make shots with Nang gun like those are the three. So, they really needed shooting. You’re gonna want more shooting when Jaylen Johnson does come back. You want shooters around him. You want shooters around Zachary Reese so that he can do his crafty stuff getting to the rim. And now that, you know, the main thing they needed was shooting and they got shooters and and and Porzingis, they got a really unique shooter because you have to if you want him not to shoot as a defense, you’ve really got to commit some special resources that tax your defense. So he’s he’s such a unique player in that, you know, he he has a lot of gravity that kind of can upset the cart and he makes you change your defense in uncomfortable ways if if you want to stop him. So that’s it’s shooting, but it’s also shooting plus with Porzingis.
Yeah. And obviously he was a big addition, probably what biggest player Trey’s ever played with. And we know he’s going to get easy looks with Trey. So I think people are expecting people are expecting a good year. But I think this actually kind of leads me to my next question. Obviously, Porzingis has some injury issues in the past. And so, I made the case that I feel like Ayaka Kongu is more valuable now because of that. And I know there’s a debate about who’s going to start, you know, because some people feel like I mean, Kongu may have played well enough last year to start, but at the same time, Borzingis you may say is the better player. So, how do you feel about the center position? Do you do you have an idea in your eyes of who you would start or does it even matter at the end of the day because they both can be played equal almost?
Yeah, I mean I don’t think it matters at the end of the day because you know it’s quite possible that like all three of them get 50 54 starts or something like that. 54 55 starts probably Enkoa would be a little bit on the
well I I want to take that back but like
there’s room for all of them to start 50 games like if Porzingis plays 60 there’s 22 right there for Aka if Jaylen misses 15 games you know Porzingis can work at power forward and and is starting so like there’s a very easy path for all of them to start 40 games and even the right situation they might all start 50 I don’t think it’s a huge thing unless you know a particular player feels particularly strongly about it but other than that like it’s going to happen where they all start a lot of games. I mean all three of them are players who have missed significant time due to injury and it’s like you you’re just trying to get them out there as as much as you can and the nice thing is that really any combination of the two will work. So because of that, they should all really get their time as a starter and and you’re just trying to get a good rhythm. You know, I do think that Jaylen and Aka have a a you know, they have a good bond off the court, but they play particularly well with each other on it. Uh especially now that Enka has found his groove as a starter and he did it without Jaylen. When he comes back, I expect the two to be, you know, really clicking. So, you know, maybe you want to pair those two as starters, but I ultimately I don’t think it matters a whole lot unless one of them has a personal feeling about it.
Yeah. And I think, you know, I think it’s one of those things where I think biggest thing the Hawks will want is just flexibility, be able to say, “Hey, we can we can go big, we can go small.” I think most teams would want to have that because certain teams play different types of ways. Some guys teams like play faster, so they may go smaller and some teams maybe more slow down the pace. I think the biggest thing coming out of last year, everybody was just looking looking at was the size. We’re too small. But at the same time, it’s like you had injuries to some of your bigger players. You had to play some inexperienced players who probably maybe weren’t ready to play in that position. And I do think it’s unfair some of the criticism has gotten for that. Uh but you know, people people see what they see when they watch the game. So I guess the thing would be from that point, you know, they also drafted Ace New from Georgia. Um what did you think about the draft pick? Um, I know he was a very debated name in talk circles just depending on I guess what you think his ceiling is, but I said for what the team is right now, I think if you got a guy who can defend, rebound, and run, I don’t think that’s that’s far what they would want from that position as right now. But what do you what do you think about him? I mean, I kind of want to separate it into two parts. Maybe just the first part is that, you know, I think drafting him indicates that they recognize the need that they’ve had for a while and it’s not like you, you know, we talked a minute ago like, oh, Anekka is too small and Anka is too small to make up for a small power forward, but Anka himself isn’t too small. Like, if he doesn’t have to cover, you know, for everybody else’s sins and get all the defensive rebounds, he’s fine. He’s big enough, but he’s not gonna cover for Sadi Bay at power forward, and he’s not going to cover for Garrison Matthews at small forward or George Nang at power forward. Like, he just needs a little bit of help with a secondary rim protector and some extra defensive rebounding. And he’ll be just fine against whatever center he’s matched up. He’s just not going to cover for his power forward. So you it it you know there’s an archetype that it seems like the Hawks are looking for
that starts with number number one with Porzingis but again he’s like the A++ case but then extending to Mo Gay Ace you know even somebody like uh Eli John Enji on the summer roster it’s like they want these rangy athletic fours that can cover a lot of ground and get to the rim to you know make a contest at the rim. even if they have to come from a long ways away because it’s a very mobile defense. It’s, you know, they’re putting a premium on being able to cover things out at the perimeter, but also when needed get back to the rim and these are all range of guys who, you know, Porzingis not as much in the in the defensive case, but you know, he’s still a secondary rim protector in the right situation. So you it it just seems like there’s a much bigger priority on not being outsized at the four and and Newell, you know, I think he’s going to be great. It might not be this year. Um but I, you know, he he’s got all the tools to do those things like he’s just such a fluid mover. Um that, you know, between that and his ability to protect the rim, like that’s that’s a special athlete. And in this particular draft, there really weren’t a lot of those. There was a lot of guys who were smaller, a lot of guys who were maybe big wings and and a lot of bigs who were just not mobile and and so new kind of stood alone in this draft. Uh you know, other than Cooper Flag, of course, but the Hawks weren’t getting him. Um so, you know, they I think they got a a good player and one that fits the need that they have.
Yeah. And I think I think the big thing with him, too, some people wonder about is is he a four or five? Because some people think he’s like a tweener. Like what is his best natural position? Um, but I mean the Hawks have shown that versatility is one of the biggest things that they, you know, value in a player. It’s just KD if you can do multiple things and we can just say you’re a positionless player and we’ll we’ll go as such in according to that. And another guy who maybe in that same group is a guy you mentioned, Mo Gay. Um, a guy who I guess was kind of forced to play after Jaylen went down. U I know a lot of people see the defensive impact. He is a good weak side uh protector of the rim, secondary rim protector. Uh big thing for him is improving his shot. That would probably be the biggest thing and just being more stronger with the ball, things of that nature. Uh where where do you kind of see him in in the shuffle of things? Because I think some people are wondering with with uh Asa coming in, does that put Gay back at third power forward? Is he is he like the I call like the first emergency guy up after the first nine ten guys like or is he someone who you think hey could still very much be in the rotation to begin the year? I think it goes back to Newell a little bit in that, you know, when you asked before like what’s his position? Well, I think his position right now is center, but he’s also a 19-year-old who’s not strong enough to be a center in the NBA, you know, on July 2nd, 2025. Like, he needs to build up his body and eventually I think he’s going to expand his skill set to where he can be a power forward, too. But right now, he’s a center, but he doesn’t have a center body yet. like he has the potential and almost certainly he’ll get there,
but you know, I don’t think he’s a center yet. So, I think, you know, Mo is ahead of him right now for sure. I I I would think that he figures more strongly in their plans to compete when the regular season starts. But, you know, that that’s not written in stone. And, you know, for Mo, I think he has to, you know, first of all, We mentioned it before. He’s another one of the players who just first of all just needs to stay healthy. Like he has a a history of like awkward falls, falls on his back. Like he’s he he’s an incredible defender and and he does such a good job
uh contesting shots
that you wouldn’t even think could be contested because he’s he’s just a long person who goes at it to really contest. But you know, sometimes he takes some awkward falls in that process. So for Mo, you know, part of it’s just he’s trying to get stronger, too, get healthier. I think one of the things that he’s got to do is he’s got to play better as a short role player. And strength goes with that. Like he’s he’s got to work on his hands. Can he catch the ball on the move? I think he’s getting better in the processing department.
Like if he he gets it now, he knows where it’s supposed to go. He’s going to make the quick read, the right read. I think he’s getting better in that. He’s got to get more reliable hands. He’s got to get stronger so that he doesn’t get bumped off of his spots so that when he moves to space, u you know, somebody trying to tag him doesn’t throw him off his line, slow him down, make him lose his balance. Uh because I think that’s the next thing that he can do on offense beyond just stand in the corner and shoot.
And so, you know, that that’s the big thing. Um I think he’ll probably get there if he remains healthy, too. Yeah. And he’s also a very athletic guy, too, I would say. Which again, people people always say, “Oh, he didn’t play the basketball that long before he got drafted.” He’s one of those guys where growing into your body, but also trying to still learn how to play the game and then learning how to play at a high level. So, um, he’s part of the developmental process they’ve had on College Park and now, you know, with with the main NBA roster on the Hawks. So, it’ll be interesting to kind of continue to see his growth because like you said, he you kind of think he would factor into them trying to compete now in terms of experience, especially between the two, him and uh Asa. So, you know, with that, we talked about Jaylen and how important it is for him to stay healthy. Um, I think a lot of people, I guess now with Pzingis, you may say he’s maybe he’s the second best player on the Hawks now. I mean, it just, you know, depends. Um, but Jaylen is still going to be a very big part of the success they have. And so obviously health is one of the main things you want to see from him this year, just staying healthy. But from a from a on the court perspective, what else are you looking for Jaylen to do this year just in terms of his growth as a player? I think a big one for him like let’s say that the starting five has Jaylen Andeka in the front court like this this team now that Zachary has found his footing. Dyson Daniels, Trey, like this is the team that should play fast. Like they should be top four in the league in pace if they’re doing this right. Um and Jaylen’s an unstoppable force in transition on offense. I think he can get a little bit better on defense.
I think there were going to be a lot of situations where it’s a little bit harder to read it because like in the past if Jaylen was starting next to Clint Capella, Clint’s going to go try to get the offensive rebound, Jaylen should be the one trying to be sort of the transition rim protector. I don’t know how exactly that’s going to shake out. But if it’s, let’s say, uh, Jaylen and Aneka together, like if if Anka is spaced to the three-point line in a lot of situations, he might not be doing the offensive rebounding. It might be on him to be the transition defender, but I I think Jaylen can do a better job in transition defense. Like he when he’s in open space, he has like a force of will to just move faster than other people. So, I think
I think a a big thing that they’re going to need if if they’re going to play with pace is to make sure that they’re defending the other team’s pace once the game accelerates. And and for Jaylen, I think that’s a really big piece of the process. And I think another piece that he’s got to work on is to just find his spots. Like he needs to figure out how he can handle the ball to get to the rim. And that’s really important for the Hawks. Um, it it reminds me a little bit of Well, no, I shouldn’t say that. But to go back to the beginning though, this is why shooting was so important.
Okay, the Hawks really had to go out and get shooters because they need to space the floor for Jaylen. They’ve got to make it a little bit easier for him to get to the rim. And with some of the lineups they had last year, Zachary trying to figure out his way. Dyson kind of his first year at the team. You know, Clint Capella didn’t really space the floor at all and just kind of clunk things up around the rim for Jaylen. Now he’s going to have Anka spacing the floor. Dyson and Zachary are another year in. They should be a lot more comfortable. There should be a lot more space for Jaylen given that the Hawks have these three shooters, too. So, he needs to improve his skill set, but at the same time, the Hawks have made it a lot easier for him. And so, he needs to take advantage of that and make sure that he’s getting to the rim with much more regularity than he did last season. Yeah. And I think obviously that’s his strength is getting to the rim. Obviously, um freight train coming down the hill. And I think people always talk about what is his ceiling, you know, what what can he be? I mean, before he got hurt, he was what basically 2010 10 and five. and you see that and it’s like all right probably probably he’s a good player. Um though I will ask this follow-up question. I know at times last year they were trying to work with him and you kind of mentioned a little bit about playmaking. You’re good and and some passing. Um they there were times where they would kind of run some point forward for him, just kind of let him bring it up and run that. Do you still see that being a part of the plan this year or do you think with some of the changes to the roster they may be like, “Hey, we maybe want you to focus more on this like you said.” uh maybe more in the paint, maybe more in the block, the post uh and things of that nature. Yeah, I I I think that’s uh certainly something that we could see more of. I you know, first of all, you see more of it when Trey’s off.
They still if if there’s one thing that they’re still kind of missing, they need to still get more creation to back up Trey. Mhm.
But as it stands right now, I think that the ball is going to be in Jaylen’s hands a lot when when Trey is off. And so that that’s one way in which that can happen. But uh you know, it’ll be interesting to see, you know, we it was really just starting to happen. It didn’t happen with that much regularity. And right when it really started to click, Jaylen was gone. But we got to see Jaylen handling handling the ball more with Trey as a screener and then it was like just this little bitty tease and then Jaylen was hurt. So I think that’s the other thing like when when Trey is off and when Trey is, you know, when they want to take advantage of Trey’s gravity and they use him as a screener to do that, I think you’ll see the ball in Jaylen’s hands for those situations.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like I said, it’s something I know they they want to develop that part of his game just because he has he has that unique skill set to kind of do the different things. He he does, but like he’s also he needs more reps so that you know, first of all, there there aren’t as many situations where him trying to find his way to the rim kills a lot of shot clock and all of a sudden it’s a hot potato back to Trey with a short clock
because he worked on it and probed and it didn’t work out. Um, and just overall processing. Where’s the open player? Where did the help come from? Like, he just needs more reps. It’s not as polished as it needs to be, but again, with a retoolled offense, with the amount of shooting that they have, it should look entirely different for him. And I’m excited to see what, like I said, how his season is. And like I said, just staying healthy. The biggest thing, just staying healthy and seeing him grow, like I said, like with with the team that they have because he’s a very big part of what they’re trying to do. And you know, another big addition to the team, uh, was the first free agent signing on Monday for them, uh, Nquil Alexander Walker. Um, probably some people maybe consider one of the higher level three and D guys, but also a decent secondary creator. It’s funny because some people I’ve heard still call him a point guard. Um, I don’t know if he I forget if he came into the league like that, but like people look him as a shooting guard. Um, but I mean, listen, he worked on his game in Minnesota. He he improved. He thought shot like 38% I think from three last year. Um and just can defend the other team’s best player and you know we think about you know Dyson and just like him. Okay, Dyson comes out the game. Well, it’s not over. You still got Nquille coming into the game. Um for you with with that signing and what he’s bringing to the Hawks, how do you see that fit with this team? you know, is it is it more like, okay, we’re going to use him two at the two, three, u obviously a guy who can fill in and start if Dyson needs to take, you know, something happens to Dyson or even Zack to a certain extent, but what what do you see his fit with his team and what do you expect to see from him for the Hawks this year? I mean, I I expect his usage to look a lot like Dyson’s. Uh, I think that’s, you know, a pretty strong comparison there. And, you know, it’s it’s needed. Like, I do think that by the end of the season, Dyson was was worn down a little bit
by the time they got to those playin games. Like, he just he put it out there for so many games. And like if you look for Dyson, you know, at the advanced metrics on how high a level of offensive player was Dyson guarding on the average night, like his was if it wasn’t first in the league, it was like second. Like he was he was taking on the most complicated assignments every night. And so the Hawks have a tremendous opportunity to lighten the burden on him, which you know can just help in a lot of ways that he’ll should be fresher by the end of the season so that when they get to a playoff run he’s not running on fumes. Um they should be able to give him in-game breaks so that he can be a more capable creator when Trey sits. Like as it stands right now, it still seems like, you know, Trey goes to the bench, who’s running the offense.
It should be a lot of Dyson and you know, he’s kind of limited as a point guard, but the Hawks have such talented players if they stay healthy. Like, it shouldn’t really matter that much because the floor should be spaced even better than it was last year. And, you know, if if the floor is spaced and he can only really do three things, well, there should be space for him to do those three things. like um you know I I think he’ll have more juice as an offensive player especially when he’s a creator because he won’t need to take absolutely the most uh important defensive assignment for 41 minutes a game anymore. And I just I just think like his you know if you compare what he does with what Alexander Walker does I think it’s a you know it’s a really direct comparison. They’re both sort of secondary creators. They’re both A+ defenders. Um, you know, the only difference really I think is that Alexander Walker isn’t quite as big and he’s a, you know, he’s a better shooter. Like he’s, you know,
it’s it’s not a wind up because I’m wide open three like Daniels takes. Like he he can get his threes up and so that that makes him a very valuable weapon. And so piggybacking off of that, we know Dyson, you know, has been working on his game. He’s talked about how he wants to take pressure off Trey offensively if he can. Um, what do you think is the most important thing for him this year? Do you think it’s more important for him to become more of a shooter or more of a I guess offensive creator for himself? Obviously, we know at times I would say when he would play point guard, he would be more aggressive in drives because then he’s getting guarded by the other team’s point guard, which could be a smaller player. Uh, but which one do you think if if there was a stride to take offensively, would it be shooting or offensive creation? I shooting like I felt like he took a big shooting step last year.
So that might not be coming this year or like for it might just be you know maintain the progress you made as a shooter. Like it’s not like he’s any kind of worldbeating shooter, but I think he took a big like if you look at what his resume was in New Orleans and what it looked like with him on offense in New Orleans, like he took a big a big leap with the Hawks in his first season here in Atlanta. So, I think it’s going to be as an offensive creator like just finding the nuanced reads, finding that, you know, just the next play on the offense. um if if if he’s driving and isn’t there, what what’s what’s gonna happen? Because I you know, I think Quinn has this uh offense where he wants everybody to kind of uh you know, make quick decisions so that they get multiple swings in each possession. You know, if the first probe doesn’t work, you just get another one. So, I think it’s you know, recognizing the soft spots in the defense when he’s driving so that if the first one doesn’t work out, he’s eating it to the player who can make the second one. Yeah. And I think too, like you mentioned, if they still have that guy behind Trey, you know, he may be, like I said, putting that role to run some things, get more reps on ball and that nature. Though that does kind of lead into the question of I think throughout this offseason, I think a lot of people would say one of the biggest needs is maybe adding another guard to the room, another point guard to be exact. Um, we really haven’t heard a lot about point guard movement for them. Um, so people wonder, are they still in love with Kobe Buffkin? And they just like, hey, we’ll we’ll see what happens. I think some people believe you gota at least bring a veteran in there just to be there with with them. Obviously, it’s a unique situation because since Trey’s the point. I mean, I’ve heard people say you kind of want to try to cut Treas, but I mean, he’ll probably playing around what 35 a night. So, if that’s the case, that’s about 13 minutes for the backup point guard, unless they play some two. Uh, how I mean I guess how do you feel about Kobe Buffkin right now, you know, coming into his third year? Obviously, again, health is the big thing for him. And do you think the Hawks really should add another guard at some point this off season? I think you want to be ready to add a guard like um if if Trey is going to miss a couple of weeks or something, you know, depending on what point of the season it is and and how you want to manage it. like maybe you want to have uh you know like a Trent Forest where you devote one of your two-way spots to a guard because you know you’ve got a lot of options here. None of them are great but again players around the league are going to look and say if I’m a point guard well if I go there what’s what’s going to happen? They’re going to see that Nquille Alexander Walker is going to play a lot of minutes at guard and that’s with Trey playing 38 minutes a night at point guard. Like there’s just not enough opportunity I think to bring in a guard when you’ve already got Trey, you’ve got Dyson, you’ve got Alexander Walker, you’ve got uh Kobe Buffkin, you’ve got V Crate. Like it’s just there’s just not a lot of opportunity there. None of those guys are world beaters, but together I think there’s enough there that you can patch the 10 minutes a game that Trey’s not playing. Um,
so I don’t I to me I think the more pressing need is that they’ve done a good job solving something that has been a sore spot for so long. They’ve got all these terrific secondary rim protectors like
we you know I it’s been like three years running and it’s never at the beginning of the season. It’s always been like, okay, you get some injuries and by the time you get to February and March, there’s this
absolutely too small person playing power forward who just should not be playing power forward in in February, March, April. It’s just like they’ve they’ve solved that. They have all these wonderful secondary room protectors. I think the one thing that they’re missing though is they need they need a big who is just a absolute uh rock of a defensive rebounder. I think they need that uh you know 6’11 center who’s you know if if you’re getting killed by Jonas Valenunis on a given night because he’s just pushing people out of the way like you I think you need just that one big body to come and it’s it might not be somebody that plays every night they might play every third game every fourth game but I think you know somewhere on this 13 14 15 spot in the roster they need that one big that can just come in and say okay if you miss a shot I’m going to be there getting the rebound because I don’t know that they have they have it when Jaylen’s there. I should I should clarify again Jaylen hasn’t been an 82 game 82 game a season player.
So when Jaylen’s there he’s he’s an A+ defensive rebounder and between him Zachary Anka Chris stops like when Jaylen is out there they should be good as as as a defensive rebounding team. But I think there are going to be times when they need that. The Pacers needed it in the playoffs and Tony, it was Tony Bradley. Like they looked past Thomas Bryant and some other players at times. Miles Turner, they’re like, “No, we we want Tony Bradley.” Like I I think you need that guy who’s just going to be absolutely solid on the defensive rebounds because again, if you want to play with pace, the first thing you got to do is get the ball.

Hawks.com writer Kevin Chouinard joins the show to talk about the Hawks offseason so far. Along with thoughts on key positions and players

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