Miami Heat, Los Angeles Lakers at Standstill in Andrew Wiggins Trade Talks & Latest on Kuminga

Miami Heat, Los Angeles Lakers at Standstill in Andrew Wiggins Trade Talks & Latest on Kuminga

Reports are that the Lakers are interested in acquiring Andrew Wiggins from Miami, but can Los Angeles put together the right combination of players to make that deal happen? Plus, latest on Jonathan Kaminga and which players might benefit from joining Miami on today’s episode of Locked on Heat. You are Locked on Heat, your daily Miami Heat podcast, part of the locked on podcast network. Your team every day. All right, welcome to Locked on Heat, your daily podcast on the Miami Heat. Whether you’re tuning in on YouTube or on your favorite podcast app, thanks for making Locked on Heat your first listen every day. I’m Wes Goldberg here with David Rmill. Both of us are credentialed Heat Media members who cover this team every day for daily content on the heat. Click that subscribe button on YouTube. Make sure you’re following us on your podcast app. Today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, use the code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase. I have a great show for you today. We’ve got the latest on Jonathan Kaminga, and a question about some under the radar trade targets to help Miami’s youth movement. We’ll get to all of that here in a second, but first, uh, let’s start with Andrew Wiggins. Um, we got a lot of reporting from Yovan Buha, Anthony Irwin, and others in the Lakers interest in Andrew Wiggins. And the Lakers interest in Wiggins is real. And according to those reports, Miami is asking for a lot. Uh given that Wiggins was the centerpiece of the Jimmy Butler trade. Uh right now the Heat and the Lakers are at a standstill. And my feel is that the Lakers are getting frustrated with the Heat over these negotiations after I did a little bit of poking around on this. Um now the Heat according to uh Yvon I think had it. The Heat have asked for Dalton Connect and a first round pick. The Lakers can only trade a 2031 pick or a 2032 pick. They only have one first round pick that they can trade. The Lakers don’t want to give up both. They don’t want to give up both Dalton Connect and the first round pick, which I understand. Um, they would also prefer to include smaller expiring deals like Gabe Vincent, Maxi Cleaver, Shake Milton. And I get that from the Lakers perspective. The problem is for Miami, they’re they have 15 players under contract. They have 15 players on the roster. So to trade out one player and get three back, the math just doesn’t work there. So that’s some of the difficulty that Miami is taking on. They’ve also asked for Ruhachimura. I don’t know if it’s Riaimura plus connect and a first round pick. Frankly, I don’t know that it’s gotten that far in terms of putting serious trade packages together and serious offers together. It just sounds like right now the Heat are asking for a lot for Andrew Wiggins. And frankly, I understand it given that Wiggins was a centerpiece of the Jimmy Butler trade. You can’t just give him up for a couple of expiring salaries and Dalton Connect who you know was a middle of the first round draft pick last summer. Yeah. No, it uh just a week or two ago, Wiggins was the centerpiece of a deal for Kevin Durant and now all of a sudden it’s like, well, we’ll take pennies on the dollar basically and that’s not connect
uh and plus whatever other salaries they want to include on there. They’re it just goes against everything that Miami is saying. We talked about this in yesterday’s episode. They like this team. They want to lean into a youth movement. They see Wiggins as a starter and a player that they want to try to win games with. And by the same token, now all of a sudden, if you’ve got him penciled in as a likely starter, then you need to get something of equal value in return if you do in fact decide to move him. So, I’m okay with this approach because I think you need Wiggins for better or for worse. you’re stuck with him and I don’t think that there’s a lot that he can bring to the table necessarily. I don’t think there’s a I don’t think he has much of a higher level to reach here in Miami. Maybe he could be a lot more consistent. Certainly he could be healthier than what he showed last year, but we know what we’re going to get from Andrew Wiggins. And that’s okay. He’s a good player, not a great player, and that’s fine. You’re kind of making this trade to help the Lakers out and to also clear a little space from Miami’s perspective. Maybe get some draft assets that you can use down the road and get some nice serviceable players and Hatchiman connect. That’s fine. Um, but it kind of speaks to also Miami kind of they’ve kind of, you know, drug themselves into a hole here because you’ve talked about it a number of times. Why sign Kashad Johnson to a contract and fill your roster up because that limits whatever you can do down the road when a player does become available or in this case when a dra or a trade potentially manifests and you can’t even make it happen because you have too many players under contract. Yeah. And look, there’s ways around it. Like they could just include Kash Johnson in the in the deal. He’s only making $1.9 million. I’m not sure that that’s going to necessarily throw Maybe it does. Maybe it throws off the salary matching part of this. I’m not sure.
Um, but I think the first point you made is the right one. They’re not in a rush to get off of Andrew Wiggins. At least I don’t think they are. And they are certainly posturing themselves as not desperate to move off of Andrew Wiggins. The Lakers want Andrew Wiggins. That much I do believe. And I also believe that the Heat aren’t desperate to move off of him. He’s got a player option next year. He’s probably going to opt out to sign a long-term deal. Okay? Whether with Miami or another team, it just makes sense. Like, why, you know, why go into a lame dunk season when you can go get the same kind of money in an offseason where a lot of teams have a lot of money to spend. So, right,
the Heat aren’t worried about Wiggins in terms of a long-term salary. I don’t even think they’re frankly worried about or trying to turn Wiggins into expiring salaries because they probably believe that Wiggins is essentially an expiring salary at this point. So, give us something really great or we’re chilling, right? Like that’s it. Like they’re they are negotiating from a position of strength here. So, I hope that Heat fans aren’t frustrated with the way Miami is putting this together. Dolan Connect is fine. He’s not worth Andrew Wiggins.
And that’s essentially what the Lakers are trying to propose right now.
Maxi Clever and Gabe Vincent are nothing in that trade. They don’t count. They’re just salary filler. They don’t move the needle for this team. They’re not long-term pieces for the They’re not win now players and they’re not long-term players, so they’re nothing. They’re just salary matching. So, if the Lakers are essentially proposing Dalton Connect for Andrew Wiggins, that’s a no, dude. And I know that I’ve talked about, hey, you got to trade Wiggins in order to go into the youth movement. And I I I think that that’s still true. But I I did not mean just trade him for any young player and that’s it. You got to get a little bit more back. Now things change a little bit if it’s Rihachamura and Dalton connect. That’s a little bit more interesting and I but I understand from the Lakers perspective why they might not want to go down that road. But that seems like it’s
if a trade gets done that seems like the most likely compromise because Miami could easily shed a contract if it’s or reroute connect somewhere. I know Barry Jackson has proposed take Hachimura back, reroute Dalton connect to Charlotte and get your 2027 pick back so that you can unlock your other first round picks because step in rules and now you go from two tradable first to four. That sounds interesting and I understand where Barry’s coming from because Charlotte tried to trade Mark Williams for Dalton Connect at the deadline.
I don’t think Charlotte’s interested in that. I think they were interested in trading Mark Williams for Dalton Connect. I don’t think they’re that interested in getting Daltton Connect at all costs. I don’t think that Charlotte values connect in that way, but maybe that idea is something where you can move connect somewhere else or get connect and you just put Kash Johnson in the deal and call it a day.
What would you prefer to get the pick and the unlock the other picks or to keep connect? And if you’re seriously
the pick with the other picks.
Yeah, but like I don’t think that that’s feasible. I don’t think that you’re getting that from Charlotte. I mean, Connect’s a fine player.
Yeah, but why would you trade a first round pick for him? You wouldn’t. I don’t think so.
Like a naked first round pick just straight up. No, I think it makes a lot more sense if it was Mark Williams who they were clearly trying to trade. Like they traded him to Phoenix, right? Like they were clearly trying to get off of him. So
I don’t think Yeah. Um but if you could if you could get Rui Hachimura and Daltton connect for Wiggins, now I’m listening. That’s interesting to me. Could you reroute Fonteo so that you don’t have to keep him? I mean, I I think in that deal, I I don’t know how that would work. I I just don’t even know what team would want a player like Feo, but I just think if you were able to swing that deal and keep connect uh I think he solves a lot of the shooting problems that you might have there and
I think he could certainly help Miami and and again, he kind of leans into the supposed plan of youth and and
totally, you know, wanting to build around that. So, I mean, Feio feels somewhat superfluous in that sense then. I mean, I understand you have to do it for salary matching purposes in order to trade Duncan into Detroit space there, but
I don’t know.
Connect is he’s 24. Yeah, he’s an older rookie. I get it. But he’s still
he’s five years younger than Feio and I think there’s enough potential there. Like, are you
Yeah, you’d have to find team. That’s fine. Are you not a believer in connect long-term growth or whether or not these are upside? I don’t know. I wasn’t that high on high on him before the frank I didn’t know why he was being talked about as a potential like top eight pick in that draft. I thought he was okay. I thought he ended up getting picked right where I thought he should get picked in the middle of the first round which is fine. Um if he was on the roster I I think it’d be interesting. Uh but I’m not moving heaven and earth to try to get him. I’m not to answer your question. I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other. I he didn’t show much with the Lakers last year. Couldn’t really get on the court. I know JJ Redic yelled at him a bunch of times. He yells at everybody. So, I don’t know.
There you go.
Um so, yeah, I think that’s where things stand right now. Um we’ll see. It feels like it’s at a stalemate right now. The Lakers want Wiggins. I think Miami is fine operating from a position of strength here. So, we’ll see what happens. Uh meanwhile, what’s the latest on Jonathan Kaminga and which teams could potentially swoop in and take him before the Heat can? We’ve got the latest on Kaminga after this. Today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. We’ve all been there. Logging on early, waiting forever for concert tickets to go on sale, only to lose your spot for a show you’ve been dying to see. Live music should be about making memories, not dealing with the stress of ticket shopping. And that’s where Game Time comes in. Game time makes getting concert tickets faster and easier than ever. Prices actually drop as it gets closer to Showtime. And you can save up to 60% off with their killer last minute deals. If you’re tired of endless scrolling to try to find the best deal, well, Game Time Zone Deals make the best seats available in your section for you. Ever wonder what your view might be like before a venue that you’ve never been to? Well, you know what? This app shows you a panoramic seat view, so there are no surprises. Game time gives you so many different features, and it makes buying tickets for concerts, comedy shows, games, whatever you’re looking for, you’ll find it on Game Time. So, take the guesswork out of buying tickets with Game Time. Download the Game Time app. Create an account and use the code locked on NBA for $20 off your first purchase. Terms to apply again, create an account and redeem the code len NBA for $20 off. Download the Game Time app today. Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. We’ll be right back. Thanks for making Lockdown Heat your first listen every day. Like and subscribe on YouTube. Follow us on your favorite podcast app. Let’s talk about Jonathan Kaminga. Anthony Slater from the Athletic reported on Thursday that there’s nothing near the finish line on the Jonathan Kaminga front. As the third night of free agency wrapped up, ProLeague sources there are conversations ongoing with Warriors and several teams on the periphery. Um it teams that have been mentioned for Jonathan Kaminga besides the Miami Heat, the Sacramento Kings, the Chicago Bulls, the Detroit Pistons. These are all potential suitors sort of lurking there for Jonathan Kaminga. Um, I saw somewhere that Golden State would be less likely, less inclined to trade him to Sacramento. They just don’t want to trade him to like an in-state rival, I suppose. But, um, look, I I I think they are trying to drum up maybe some interest in Jonathan Kaminga, but as Slater reported here, nothing close to getting done one way or the other. whether Jonathan Kaminga just accepts the uh the tender that made him a restricted free agent and just goes into the year with the Warriors on a one-year contract, bets on himself, and tries to enter free agency next year as an unrestricted free agent. I think that’s got to be an option. Perhaps the Warriors signing him to uh a bigger contract and trying to trade him closer to the trade deadline. I think that’s an option, too. And then obviously a team coming in with an actual offer, but it’s really hard because there’s just not a lot of money out there, right? There’s not a lot of money. And so for these restricted free agents, whether it’s Kaminga or Giddy or Quinton Grimes, it’s a tough it’s a tough world to be a restricted free agent right now.
Yeah. So anything that would get done with any of these teams, including the Heat, would have to be via signing trade. And as we know, those things are very complicated. I can’t see the stay with Golden State option playing out because he needs the opportunity and he’s not going to get that in Golden State. Like I I think he’s done everything he possibly can there for better and worse also. Like he has also created this situation where he’s not going to be able to carve out more playing time and I don’t think her is going to have any more faith in him next year and be like you know what I might have missed the boat on you. I’m going to double your playing time and give you an opportunity to show up. Like that just doesn’t seem likely. And so for a guy like Kaminga who does want to get paid I think if he could find a deal now that seems much more likely. Uh, I just don’t see him increasing his value in any way, in any kind of meaningful or significant way by staying Golden State. He needs the opportunity to join a team where he can put up the numbers that he thinks will justify the kind of contract demands that he’s looking for. So, I don’t I don’t know that it’s necessarily Miami. Again, you’re fitting onto a team with a top scorer already and Tyler Hero. That doesn’t mean I don’t necessarily like the fit either. I think there’s a potential there. I think he could continue to develop and I think he can attack the rim and and be a fairly valuable scorer in Miami. It’s just I’m not sure that this is necessarily the best option for him. But
that’s interesting. Uh do you think is do you think the Kaminga So the Kaminga fit with Steph, Draymond, and Jimmy Butler? It’s really this it’s really the Kaminga fit with Draymond and Jimmy Butler is the problem, right? Just three nonf flooror spacers can’t play together even with Steph out there. But do you think that fit is worse than a fit? Let me rephrase that. Do you think a fit potentially in Miami alongside Tyler Herro and Bam Adabio is better for Kamingo than the one in Golden State right now?
I do too. Yeah, because they’ll they’ll play differently. Like Bam’s too smart. He’ll figure it out. He’ll make the adjustment. Um
it’s one non-f floor spacer versus two, right? And that and maybe it doesn’t sound like a lot, but that makes all the difference in the world. Like teams can get away with two non-floor spacers. It’s almost impossible to get away with three at the same time. Um, so
the other that was that Go ahead.
No, I was just going to say as far as all those suitors are concerned, like I don’t see that the Sacramento option doesn’t make much sense for Golden State. I don’t think that the Detroit option makes much sense either given the moves that they’ve already made. Um, and so Chicago, does Chicago have something that
could
I don’t know what I don’t know what Chicago I have I have no idea. Do they do like are are the Warriors interested in Patrick Williams? I can’t imagine that they are. I don’t know. I can’t imagine that anybody’s interested in him, right? Like what are they gonna Kobe White? Is that something that they even would want to do? I Why would they do that? Kobe White’s a better player than Jonathan Kaminga. It’s just they just traded for Isaac Aoro. That’s why I think some I think the Detroit interest is older. I think even the Chicago interest is older. Um I think the Miami interest is real. Yeah. And I I I think a lot of what’s been happening lately, whether we’re talking about Barry Jackson’s piece in the Herald or whatever other posturing that they were doing, I think it’s all posturing. I think it’s posturing on Golden State’s end. Well, not even Golden State. I think Golden State’s just waiting for somebody to make a decision. Kaminga or Miami. I think there’s I I I think Kaminga is trying to get the most money possible and get himself in the right position. What you said before though, it it he needs to find a spot where he can kind of be let loose a little bit, right? get let off the leash and and let him explore all the other parts of his game that he’s not allowed to explore in Golden State right now.
Right.
I do wonder if there’s a world where he just says, “You know what? Screw it. Give me the 8.7 million or whatever his tender is. Give me just give me the restricted free agency money. It’s lower than what I wanted, but I’m going to basically opt into it. I’m going to I’m going to accept it. And if nobody else comes in with another bigger salary, which as we just discussed, there’s no there’s no money out there, right? Miami can’t just get them. They can’t just offer them a salary. they have to do it in a sign and trade. So, if that doesn’t happen, does Kaminga just say, “All right, just give me the restricted free agency money.” No, I’m not going to ask for a long-term contract from Golden State. Just make me expiring one year. And like you said, he’s not really going to get a chance to prove it in Golden State. But could he then just take the money and then request a trade
at that point at a much smaller dollar amount figure as an expiring salary still and just get traded somewhere where he can prove himself and then enter unrestricted free agency having done it with after a prove it year somewhere else where he was able to put up some more numbers. Could you wind up trading Fedio for Kaminga?
Straight up for Kaminga. Like it might have
Golden State wouldn’t do that. Golden State wouldn’t do that. Golden State would just we’re going to hold on to him at that point
for a year coming off the bench and being kind of a headache there because he’s he’s going to be somewhat disgruntled. Like would they take that chance?
100%.
Really? 100%. Yes. The idea would be we could build up his trade by February. There’d be something better out there for us than Simone Fenteio. And they would be right. There will be something better for them at that point. some team will suffer an injury or something by December and be like, “Ah, we’ll give you a first round pick for Kaminga or whatever it is.” Um, because that’s a different story, right? The idea of having to pay Kaminga something like $30 million a year as a restricted free agent versus how we could kind of just stick a flyer on this guy at $9 million. And again, I’m just I don’t know what the actual number is, but it’s not much more than 9 million or less than 9 million, but some that a lot more teams would come out of the woodwork at that point than than are being reported right now.
What if you reroute connect and you wind up trading? Ah, we’re talking. Here we go. So, this is what I proposed on Twitter. I said, why don’t we get the Lakers involved?
Yeah.
Send Wiggins to LA, right? Kaminga to Miami. right
on a as a as a straight up restriction free like sign him sign and trade so we’ll get him the $30 million or what that he’s asking for you bring him to Miami Wiggins to LA and then all the stuff that the Lakers wanted to trade to Miami that stuff just goes to Golden State Hatchima that’s interesting that’s an interesting piece for Golden State connect that’s an interesting piece for Golden State maybe another something in there maybe you throw a Gabe Vincent or a Max Clever or something like that what you know a piece that makes sense for the Warriors now we’re starting to get a little interesting So, I I tweeted that I tweeted a a spo track trade machine graphic out and I actually got some push back on it, David.
Yeah.
For a surprising reason. We’ll talk about it next. Ah, so we do have a mailbag question I want to get to, but before we do that, so I tweeted out the graphic and in the graphic I was on SPR. The SPRA trade machine, by the way, is awesome. It’s the best one that’s out there. if you’re not using this is not a paid sponsorship. It’s great. It tells you legitimately what and what is not possible. But
okay,
uh I I negotiated a signin trade with Kaminga making $30 million a year. I got a lot of push back.
Yeah.
On paying Kaminga 30 million. And I got news for people. That’s what it costs. Jaylen Green, who proved about as much as Jonathan Kaminga had, signed a restricted free agent deal with Houston last summer for $30 million a year. And the Warriors didn’t offer Kaminga that that option. They just went they didn’t they didn’t offer him anything. They just said we’ll wait until he’s restricted free agent. We’re not going to extend him right now before that. But that’s what it costs because in order to get the Warriors to basically give Kaminga away for essentially Ruhachimura and Daltton connect, you have to make it so that they don’t want to pay that salary. They don’t want to they don’t. The whole point of them trading Kaminga is that they don’t want to pay him $30 million a year. Kam if they could have Kaminga at eight or $9 million a year they would just do that. They did it last year even if it wasn’t a fit but it’s different when you got to pay him $30 million a year and this is what Kaminga is looking for. So I’m just telling people that’s the cost of it. That’s what it costs in these sign trades for these kinds of guys who were top picks in the draft. You you could tell me that you don’t think that the Heat should do it and I get it. That’s fine.
Yeah.
But it’s 30 million. That’s pro. It’s going to be somewhere around that and we can haggle over 28 million now and $32 million later or whatever, but it’s going to be 30 millionish. Okay. So, that was the push back I got. Just wanted to explain.
Okay. No, no, I got it. Um, it’s interesting. I I I don’t know how that would play out. I I would prefer that they would be able to get him for less money than that. Mhm.
But again, what if they were able to what if they were able to swing that deal for where he opts into or accepts his tender and his salary is far less and then you kind of wind up just taking, you know, sending out less than you might be requiring or you might not necessarily have to reroute everything that you get from the Lakers in exchange. like maybe they I don’t know what the the Warriors would get necessarily, but I mean some kind of like they get connect and Fenteo and Hatchimura comes to Miami and Wiggins goes to Los Angeles and along with Kaminga coming to Miami. So Miami would get Kaminga and Hatchimura. uh Golden State would get Feio and connect and Los Angeles would get Wiggins or some kind of permutation. Maybe again thrown into
if you could figure out a way to get that extra first out of the Lakers and then send that first to Golden State, maybe they would do it. But I don’t think Golden State would say yes to I think they would just rather have Kaminga
basically opt in and and just keep them than take Connect and Feekio. I just don’t think that that’s enough for them. But if you can get the first from the Lakers, then maybe Golden then maybe Golden State would listen. Um, so we’ll see what happens there. Let’s get to this mailback question. Billy writes in, “You guys have talked a decent amount about how Indiana went and got a bunch of young players via trade from a draft they didn’t have a first round pick in. I have a few names of top 20 picks from 2020 through 2024. Should Miami look to target any of these guys after missing out on Kevin Durant? He includes Sadique Bay um the 19th pick in 2020. Jaylen Smith the 10th pick in 2020. Jaylen Suggs uh Tory Een Taylor Hendricks Reed Shepard. Um I don’t see this. This mailback question admittedly came in like a few days ago. So Sadi Bay has already been traded to New Orleans since then. No. Yes. Yes. Yes. He’s on New Orleans now. Um
Jaylen Smith uh is in Chicago. Jaylen Suggs. I don’t see Orlando trading Jaylen Suggs right now, but that could be an interesting name when they have to make some tough financial decisions in a couple of years. Try Een Houston’s not trading him, nor are they trading Reed Shepard. Not for anything Miami has at least. Taylor Hendrickx is interesting, but I think Utah would rather hold on to him. I actually think Utah would prefer to hold on to Taylor Hendrickx and maybe explore a Larry Markin trade instead, but that’s a different topic. Cam Whitmore though is a name that I’m interested in here because he you look at that Rockets depth chart. I don’t know where Whitmore fits in. So in terms of second draft guys, that’s the kind of player that I think Miami should be calling about like actively being, hey, we’ve got some older veterans that might be more helpful for you if you’re out on Cam Whitmore. Is there something that can be done here? Those are the kinds of names I think that they should be exploring. What about you? any of these names kind of Yeah.
No, I I just I don’t see they’re intriguing. Um I mean Sadi Bay is fine. I don’t know how much of an upside he has and and look that this is
I think Billy as much as he listens to the show and he’s a longtime supporter obviously and maybe this isn’t what his intention was but I think we were talking about players that were more on the cusp there. like a guy like Halleurn was really good in Sacramento. He just wasn’t kind of he didn’t have the keys car and so that’s what you’re talking about more in terms of like the second draft guys that have that star-like potential. Um all the players you listed are
I think there is an argument to be made to try to go get like the Obie Toppins and the Aaron Nmiths too. We talked about that too and and the Heat could use a couple of more of those guys.
I like Cole Anthony if he gets bought out by Memphis.
Oh, that’s interesting. Um, I think that’s a nice fit. Uh, you know, you’re still
great locker room guy.
Yeah. Still looking for point guard. I mean, he’s undersized guy, but he certainly showed some scoring pop. And he wound up being, I think, wasn’t he instrumental in that massive comeback they had against Miami. So, you know how Miami feels about guys like that burned them in the past? They’re like, “That’s our guy.” So, maybe they’re like, “Okay, they’ll circle the wagons on Anthony again.” So, I could see that. Um, other than that, I I mean, yeah, Shepard is probably the more intriguing of those names listed there. Bay seems like a nice fit, but again, he was just traded and I don’t think New Orleans is willing to part with him, so I can’t really think of anybody.
He’s like not even a second draft guy at this point. He’s been on like three different teams now. Atlanta, Detroit. Yeah,
I like Jaylen Smith. I like that. That’s a nice name. Yeah, again,
stretch big.
Yeah, stretch big off the bench. can play next to Khloe Wear and Bam Adabio hypothetically.
Yeah,
I’m Look, it it Indiana traded second round picks for Obie Topphen.
They traded second round picks for Nith. Like if you could do something like that, which where it’s a buy low situation.
Mhm.
I’m in. Right. Like if you could go get a player with obvious talent who might have just not found the right situation. DaVon Mitchell is a great example. Right. Fair.
DaVon Mitchell is not going to be a star. He’s a very helpful rotation player and you resign him to a nice contract and he’s either a a a bargain piece for you on a manageable deal on a team friendly deal or he’s that and a trade asset and I think that he could do a little bit more than that. So I would you you look at the list of guys they have whether it’s Andrew Wiggins, Terier and again negotiating from a position of strength on Wiggins but not very much on Rosier. I think I would listen to offers on Heismith, even if you think it’s a step down. Heismith’s 28. Like, what’s he doing on this roster? Um,
yeah,
even Simone Fenteo, who you can flip at
Yep.
89 million salary at 29 years old. Like, these are things that you would say like, “Hey, this is a useful rotation piece for you.” You look at contending teams, whatever it might be, and say, “Hey, here’s here’s a decent piece for you that can that you can use right now. Does Denver have like would they move like a Payton Watson or a Jaylen Picket or a Julian Strower, right? I don’t know. Maybe for for maybe more of a veteran bench piece. This is what I would be doing if I were the Heat right now in addition to trying to get that first round pick from the Lakers. Yeah,
maybe. It feels a a little underwhelming and I I want to offer some kind of I just I want to offer some further clarification. Not that it’s absolutely necessary, but it seems like we keep getting push back on our stance on from last yesterday’s episode because so many fans are so willing to accept at face value what Barry Jackson of the Herald wrote regarding Miami’s alleged plan of a youth movement. And I just
I I think both you and I would feel the same way if we actually bought into the idea that it’s the youth plan and that that’s that the youth movement is the plan for Miami as opposed to just well we kind of swung and missed on the whole Kevin Durant thing. Like you can’t go from one plan of acquiring a 37year-old Hall of Famer in Durant and then like a week later try to sell everybody on no no we like our 22 year olds. we really like the way that they’re going to be able to develop, etc. So, I don’t think there’s so much as a youth movement as so much as a well, we kind of just have no other option.
A youth settlement. Yeah,
that is it’s it’s the part that keeps getting missed in the Jackson piece is the part two where it’s like, hey, we’re going to do this youth movement and then we’re going to trade all these guys for a superstar
or a very good player.
Yeah. Or a good player. Good player. So, it is it is sort of just throwing your hands up and being like, let’s see what these guys can do now that Jimmy Butler isn’t here anymore making everybody pay attention to his temper tantrums. That’s sort of the idea.
And I’m honestly I’m okay with it. I’m okay with it
for a year. But let’s not to your point sit here and pretend that this team is suddenly going to start build that this is just the plan forever, right? It’s if this is the plan forever, it’s not a good one. Like I said, if they do this, then that means they’re just planning on being a playin tournament for a very long time. You either got to go the other way and go fully youth movement and get these top picks,
right?
Or start acquiring assets like we’re talking about right now to eventually move to get that star player. The idea that Niklo Yoic and Hime Hake Jr. are going to do something this year that makes them all of a sudden centerpieces of a deal to get in his prime superstar. Miss me with that dude. like they don’t have the assets to do that right now. So, either do let these guys develop, keep acquiring young players and assets. Okay, I’m here for that.
That’s it. That’s it.
Or go the other way and tank, which they don’t want to do,
which they do not want to do. So, like, what are we going to do here? If you’re going to do a youth movement, do it. Which is why we’re talking about trading for Kaminga and these other things. is is even resigning and I love the movement and everybody knows this, but is resigning DaVon Mitchell even really part of a youth movement? Like I I know he’s a youngish player and everything else like that, but that even that kind of seems like not part of that plan. You maybe you just don’t have any other guard options available and you’re kind of leaning into but you just drafted your point guard allegedly of the future and so I think that’s it. But yeah, trade Haywood for seconds, trade Rosir for whatever you can get. Uh just you got to be able to acquire something in terms of draft capital that you can package together along with a Nico or along with a highman be like okay now we can get that mid-tier player that good player that they were talking about in the piece and maybe that again in combination with some other salaries can lead to the eventual star but right now they serve no purpose and we we appreciate everything Haywood does for this team and the potential and everything else that you know the willingness to do the work. He’s my and you know this better than anybody. He’s my favorite type of player. A guy who just kind of works and comes up from nothing and is able to establish himself in the league and yet
he just kind of doesn’t seem to fit into the the plan. He did not fail the Heat. The Heat failed Haywood Heismith. Right.
Fair enough. Fair enough.
They he he did everything he could to turn himself into a great a serviceable rotation piece. And he is. He is. I just think he would be a lot more useful
on a contending team, which Miami is not right now. Yeah. I’m surprised the Lakers wouldn’t be interested in him over and
maybe they are. Oh, over Wiggins? No. I mean, Wiggins is a better player, but
is he?
Yeah. Come on. Wiggins averages still He still averages like 18 points per game. Everybody keeps banging on how bad Wiggins was for Miami. He averaged 19 points a game for them last year. Hey, Heisman has never dreamed of averaging 19 points per game. Come on.
Crazy.
I suppose 6’4. Um, all right. We’ll see what happens. will be back next week. Thanks for unless something crazy happens. But enjoy your Fourth of July weekend. Thanks for making Lockdown on Heat your first listen today. For your second listen, find the Locked on NBA podcast where there’s no offseason. Doug, Matt, and Hayes keep you up to date on contract negotiations, rumors, and everything you need to be the most informed NBA fan. Find Locked on NBA on YouTube and wherever you listen to podcast, part of the Lockdown Podcast Network, your team every day.

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