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Hour 3: Walker Kessler Trade Proposals for the Utah Jazz? | Where Does the 4th of July Rank? | Ho…



Hour 3: Walker Kessler Trade Proposals for the Utah Jazz? | Where Does the 4th of July Rank? | Ho…

DJPK it’s 975 the zone well it’s rumor speculation season few team few teams few businesses do drama and rumors and speculation as well as basketball and I guess we can trace the roots back in you know 75 years ago in baseball they called it the hot stove league and all the offseason rumors about trades flew around so we got a bunch of stuff out there about the NBA now PK Okay. And the one that involves the Utah Jazz that caught your ear. He soon could be I guess he’s already the longest tenure Jazzman, right? Because that his trade got done before Markin’s trade.
Yeah.
By a few weeks.
Uh but Walker Kesler and what might be out there as far as interest around the league and interest with the Jazz. I think Kesler is one of these players that on his own he’s not a superstar or at least not yet. Maybe he can develop. That’d be awesome if he did. But you put him in a team that has a specific need for his skill set. And he could really, really help a team. There’s no question about it because his skill set is something that teams need. They need a shot blocker. They need a rim protector. They need a rebounder. Every team needs it, right? And that player doesn’t need to be necessarily a superstar, but you like Yaka Purle, I think, can do a lot of different things on his own. He’s probably not a first team allNBA or any of that stuff, but put him on the like I said yesterday, put him on the Warriors and wow, I think he would make that team a lot better. And so I don’t want to see it sound like uh Liam Niss and Taken, but Walker Kesler has a certain set of skills and if he gets to use them,
he will kill you.
So I think I think that’s where it needs to start. You take the personality out briefly. I think uh and this is a question for any of the 30 teams, obviously more so for the Jazz because he’s on the Jazz roster right now, but any of the 29 teams that might be thinking about acquiring him. How do you view the defensive minded pick and roll center? I mean, we just saw one of them with Rudy, right? What neither one of these guys did and what Dererick Favors didn’t do either was shoot threes. And it does seem like there are coaches, GMs that are really dedicated to I’m gonna have five three-point shooters on the floor and one or two of them need to be rim protectors. And this is where positionless basketball gets a lot more real, right? They may not be traditional. Giannis is not a traditional center, but he’s a rim protector. So that the Bucks have wanted, you know, five three-point shooters out there. And so they had Lopez. Now, obviously, he’s moved on to the Clippers here and they, you know, went over and took the Pacers apart, but Kes, that’s that’s not Kesler. And and and to me, it doesn’t look like it’s going to be Kesler. I mean, I know he’s talked about it and I know guys older than him have added that. So, maybe maybe that’ll happen. And man, if they give up on him and it does happen, then they don’t look very good. So, they got to be able to figure that out. And they got more info on that than than we do. That seems to be a big how do they want to play? How does Austin want them to play? Does he like a defensive guy and four shooters or is he someone who demands five shooters? Because that that philosophical question seems to me like that’s the basis of what you decide. Okay. But if I’m good enough offensively with the other guys, he can help me in an area that he has expertise in.
Oh yeah. And they’re coaches who believe that. And we saw that with Quinn Snyder and Rudy. I mean, Quinn thought he could do it. I I don’t I don’t think that was spin in public. He loved Rudy. He loved what Rudy did at the defensive end. And he thought he the other four players and Rudy was really good in the pick and roll game. So, it’s, you know, but he didn’t need Rudy to be a three-point shooter to have a really good offense in his mind. Now, they never got to the conference final, but you can argue, hey, the Jazz didn’t get to the conference final with Stockton Malone right away either. You know that that that took a good long while. Yeah. But the rumor out there that I saw is two first in a player for Kesler. If Double A got two first in a player and that player is not some
I was going to say who just
who are the player and where are the picks? Well, two first. Well, yeah, but if they’re if they’re picked 20 and 25, I’m not that impressed. If they if they end up being lottery if they end up being lottery picks, I’m very impressed. Right. But how about
wide range?
Yeah, but that the Minnesota pick wasn’t uh or was it Cleveland, which they I think they just used the Minnesota pick and it wasn’t lottery, but they moved up three spots and got a player that they really wanted. So that gives you just just because you get that doesn’t mean that’s exclusively what you get. Then you spin that and you move up. You got two picks now. Now you now you got
you got eight, nine picks. So, in the next x amount of years, we’re already seeing that with Oklahoma City. That’s one of their big selling points. Well, sure, they’re going to have to pay guys, but they’ve also got these picks, so they can reload that way.
And I don’t I don’t think you scoff at first round picks. And I get a a a fifth place spot is better than on 20, at least on paper anyway. Uh but we already saw what they did. They moved up what, three spots this year to get someone out. We’ll see what Clayton ends up being. Hopefully, he’s a great player and fills a real big-time need, but they were if they’re excited, at least they were excited about getting him. You don’t you don’t trade up for somebody that you’re not excited for. At the same time, I think they traded up for Trey Burke, and that didn’t work. So, who’s to say, right? We’ll find out in the next 3, four years. That’s the fun of it all is that these guys do without question know more than all of us. I whatever I know, Austin A knows a thousand times more. I have no doubt in saying that, but even when you say that, that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s going to be the right pick.
No. Well, there was I mean, it wasn’t that long ago that, you know, they were holding out for a first for Jordan Clarkson. They thought they could get it. It turned out they couldn’t. So, just because they think it doesn’t mean it’s right. And just because they pick a guy doesn’t mean he’s right. But I get your point that on the surface getting two picks, two first round picks and a player and that could be pretty intriguing, you know, and tell me who the player is obviously.
Yeah.
But assuming that it’s a starting I mean I would think they’d be looking for someone who they think within a year is a starting quality player under the age of 25.
Now is it better than that? You know, I probably don’t want a guy older than that. Yeah, I understand. The only my biggest concern if they were to move Kesler
is he’s the one guy on the roster
or the only guy on the roster who gives you what he can give you. And you look at the rest of the roster, right? Right now they’ve got options. You want wing players, tall wing players who are athletic, I can give you Bailey. I can give you Hrix. I can give you Williams. Now I don’t know if those guys are going to pan out, but I’ve got options there to see. And just by dumb luck, one or two of those guys are going to pan out. They have to, right? And it’s the same thing at the guard line. They’ve got three, four guys. Well, if you get rid of Kesler, you have nobody at center who can give you what you’re looking at. Nerkage is older, so I don’t think he’s going to be there in three to four years.
He’s going to be there in two,
right?
We’ll see if he makes it through this one.
Right. So that’s what that’s the one thing that would concern me about moving Kesler is then you got to go out and get somebody like him and you already have him. Whereas if you traded uh Kante George, I got two, three other guys that I can give opportunities to. So at least I I have the possibility of filling those needs. You create a void if you get rid of Kesser that you don’t have right now. But if the offer is so overwhelming, well then you got to take it. Well, it goes back. We were talking about this with David Lockach, you know, probably couple months ago and I remember him saying, “Well, if you move Kesler, you have to go find another Kesler because you got to have somebody like that and you don’t.” I mean, Philip Powski is a big guy, but he just doesn’t move like that. He’s not that long. He’s just, you know, that’s just not happening. Not Not right. So they got to go find somebody else. So that does seem like a setback. Now, conversely, they’re so far away that if you have one piece, you can move and you can get two or three pieces, you know, because otherwise it’s sitting here adding one guy at a time. And how long is it going to take? Yeah, but they haven’t been adding. I mean, they’ve been adding three at a time if they hit on all three. You’re right. Nice.
Well, they’re not, but just dumb luck. They should hit on some of them. And and there’s other ways to add guys. You can find your, you know, Royce O’Neal undrafted or Joe Engles undrafted. You know, not everybody has to come in through the draft. There people playing basketball all over the world who can contribute in the NBA. So, there’s other places, but there aren’t a lot of places to find a seven-footer who’s as long and athletic and moves as well as Kesler does,
right?
And that catches everybody’s eye. And I know somebody who talked to Steve Kerr when they were here the first time and he saw him in person for the first time. obviously knew about him, but he’s like, “Well, he’s gonna be good is those guys just know.”
Yeah. But I do think philosophically, man, if you’re really if you really want five three-point shooters, and if that’s what you’ve got to do to be an elite team and to be a championship contender and to win a champion and you really believe in that, then you probably should be looking for that kind of trade for Walker because I don’t think he’s going to turn into
high three-point shooters. I’m I mean, I think Milwaukee did when they when they won it,
right?
I mean, so if you’re trying to build that team, you’re not going to need him.
You don’t need that.
And if you come to that conclusion, then my desire to trade him goes way down. If that’s what
didn’t have it,
OKC doesn’t have it. Well, you may think you have it and you don’t have it. Now, we get into the real get into the weeds a little more. I don’t know what you mean by that.
Well, you think you’ve got a three-point shooter and then you get to the finals and he shoots 25% from three. So, you didn’t have him when you need him. I mean, Turner really struggled. He’s not a three-point shooter. I don’t think so.
He shot He shot 39% from three and he was taken five a game this year. Five and a half actually.
So, I think they think they have him.
Do it when it matters.
Exactly. Exact. And that’s what I was just saying. You think you’ve got him, but then you’re in the finals and they just aren’t going in.
And then they didn’t want to pay him the money, so he left. Yep. They told us that they didn’t value him. I don’t need to tell you him. I don’t need to say it. They told us. Well, would they have valued him if they weren’t going into the luxury tax or are they just another one of these teams? And I think that’s really hampering the rebuild here. I think it’s hampered their plan the last three years is that owners are drawing absolute lines about depending on the club about luxury tax first apron and certainly the second apron like I’m not writing that check and so
hat run out of money here get a gofundme no I don’t I don’t think any of these owners are going to run out of money but nonetheless they don’t want to spend it
I don’t know I don’t know who the owners of the Pacers are so I have no idea all I know is this one that’s all I care about and I couldn’t tell you that the owner of the Pacers could walk in the room right now and I’d have no clue. I don’t even know the person’s name. No idea. And I don’t want to know. And the I’m worried about the Jazz, not the Pacers. Uh so, uh that’s where I make my money. He’s talking about the Jazz. Uh, I I I don’t I don’t even think I don’t think that the the rebuild has been hampered by the Jazz’s unwillingness to spend money.
No, I think it’s been hampered by other teams unwillingness to take on the salaries of Jazz players. I don’t think the thing that’s limited trading John Collins is his talent. I think the thing that’s limited trading in him is his salary and how it fits into other people’s uh budgets. Yeah, but that’s every team in the league. And that’s true. And I think and I think that’s why he’s still here. And I think that’s why Clarkson was here certainly two years longer than he needed to be. You probably argue three. Yeah. And that’s why I mean they got rid of uh Mitchell and Gobear. I just that’s that’s part of the deal. That that’s never going to end. I mean, that’s of course that’s the case. Uh, they were paying them too much money and they didn’t have the flexibility and they didn’t think they were good enough. I get it. So, that’s why we’re in this situation that we’re in. If they were making $10 million a year, it’d be another story.
Well, they’re about to decide whether they have to pay Kesler. So, if you’re going to move him,
well, they’re not deciding this summer. They’re gonna they’re not going to resign him. they’re going to let him go and be a restricted free agent and then they’ll So they’re as you would say kicking it down the road. So they’ve already made that decision. I can tell you that. We’re moving into Gordon Hayward territory, people.
Mhm.
Yeah.
Same plan. Yeah. And then Gordon got all his got his feelings hurt because he thought he was a big-time player and big- time players aren’t treated like that. The only problem was you weren’t a big- time player. I mean, you’re a very good player. I’m not denigrating his talent by any stretch, but he thought he was all world. Uh because he lived put Butler on his back and got to the final four and yeah, okay, you’re very very you’re really good. Hayward was really good, but he wasn’t that type of player. So, the Jazz I thought they treated him fine. He got his money, but he got offended and then when it was time to leave, he left and he went chasing the biggest stars cuz he thought he was among the biggest stars. He wasn’t. And I think Kesler will have a little more common sense in this situation. I would think you’re right. I don’t think I don’t think Kesler Yeah. I think he’s probably wired a little different. I think he definitely think he views himself differently. Yeah. So, he’ll he’ll get his money. Kesler just needs to put his head down. He knows this. Put his head down and go to work, man. and do what you need to do and you’ll get that offer that’ll come. Yeah. Just keep doing what got him from where he was his first year to where he is now.
Yeah.
Just keep keep that arc. Although the Yeah. The arc. Yeah. Exactly. Because expectations go up. Yep.
You you don’t you don’t plateau at this age. something’s wrong.
And if that three if that if he does develop a three to any level, then moving him get that that gets a lot harder for me to swallow. Not that they care what I think or they care how I feel about the move, but I’d be like, well, what are you moving him for? I mean, at that point, he becomes I mean, what what what more do you want from him at that point?
Unless it’s just a killer deal. Yeah. Again, back to who the who the team is, what the picks are. You know, some teams unprotected picks are awfully tempting, especially if they’re in the next draft. So, you hear two first and and they’re not all created equal.
They only have one unavailable, non-tradable under any circumstance player, and that’s AJ Deansa. They don’t have MPK.
Oh, you just wait. You just wait. Yeah, now you’re talking. That’s what you did with Cooper Flag. How’d that work out? Yeah, that was a long shot. That was a long shot, man. It was a one in 87 chance they drafted where they’re supposed to. This is going forward. You don’t know where it’s going to be. And a kid who if Ace Bailey can finagle where he’s doesn’t want to go, you don’t think AJ Debonsa, this kid already loves Utah. My goodness gracious. He’s the grand marshal at the parade tomorrow, isn’t he? Or is that later on in the month? I forget. All right, PK the hype machine. It is a holiday weekend, PK. I do believe you put a question up on Facebook about that and we should get to that next. There are celebrations to be planned. There are things to be done. There’s fun to be had. We’ll get to that next. Stay with us. Ladies and gentlemen, may I present
This is JJ and Alex.
That’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to invent a food line that you just invent by putting stuff in your pocket and that’s how it gets heated up. No need.
Put it under. But you ever seen those like Indian street food Instagram videos? I go down that rabbit hole sometimes.
What does the algorithm say about us?
I I know there are some there’s some weird stuff that pops up. Mine is all sports and food stuff. That’d be accurate. If I had to guess, that would probably
And I do the thing, too, where I’m like, I like that recipe. and I’m going to send it to myself. And then I see myself in the mirror as I walk by something in a building. I go, “Who are you? What are you? What’s your problem? That’s me. I’ve started to do that. I send myself Instagram recipes that I can try out on the weekend. I’ve become like a segment on Studio 5, breaking it out.” And I saw this on Instagram. I wanted you to try it. My goodness. You start your own cooking show.
Oh, I like to cook. I’m one of those guys. Can you Can you do a cooking show on the radio? Catch JJ and Alex afternoons from 3 to 6 presented by G2G bars on 975 the KSL Sports Zone. This is John Phillips Soua. That it is. This just screams the 4th of July, doesn’t it? And here we sit on the 3rd of July. One of our questions up on our Facebook page. Where’s the Fourth of July rank in your holiday list? PK biasing the survey. H can’t put it pretty high up there.
You have to. What is the lowest it could go? In my mind, the lowest it can go on a holiday list is third.
Third. You want to go Christmas and Thanksgiving? I get it.
Some people might want to go New Year’s. I say no. Fourth is a big
New Year’s a holiday. Well, it literally is. I consider I consider holidays paid days off. I I get that discussion. People are like, “Well, it’s Arbor Day.” I’m like, “Yeah, well, I don’t get a day off for Arbor Day, so it’s not a holiday.” How is a holiday?
What’s in the best interest of your pocket?
Uh, no. Boils down to that.
No, because I’m I’m getting paid whether I work or not. That pays the same. That’s the whole point. Not having to work. Having my time back in the interest of my time. But if I But if I give you the time and don’t give you the money, you don’t want it. What? I didn’t follow.
If I give you the time off, I’ll give you Arbor Day, but I ain’t paying you. So, if you don’t show up for work, I’m docking you.
Oh. Oh, I see where you’re going. I got I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I was slow. Uh, no. I wouldn’t have a fit. Actually, you know, there was a time, and I don’t think they’re doing this anymore. There was a time where we were uh told the TV we could buy another week of vacation and I did and I had a co-orker shocked by that and I’m like kids are growing and gone man. I need the time.
That’s cuz you make so much money it’s no big deal. The rest of us me and Yona have to work overtime and you can buy a week and and it’s like you save somebody $600,000.
Half of half of what you just said is true about the other half was spot on. No, the other half was told drops. You played it yesterday. You played it pretty much every day this week. No, the other part’s BS. You’re not You’re not working overtime to make the ends meet. That’s totally BS.
I’m working overtime.
No, now you just want to sing because you think this is a karaoke show.
It’s like, see, we all know about you at 9:00 in the show, and we especially know about you on Fridays because this is a holiday weekend. By 8:30 on Thursday, you’re you’re in Friday 9:00 mood. And I’m fabulous. Just ask me. That was a good one. I like that one. Are you fabulous?
Well, not really, but that’s what made that more fun.
Well, you told me to ask you, and I just asked you.
That was the whole sarcasm of the whole thing that made it that made the payoff enjoyable. So, where do you rank it? I probably would rank it third. Third out of 10.
Three out of 10. the best holiday that’s not based on religion or food. Uh, you know, for a lot of people it is based on food. And I get your point. Not everyone. For everyone, but man, for a lot of people,
right? But that doesn’t count.
That is critical. That doesn’t count.
Why doesn’t it get counts to them?
Because it’s count to you.
Because it’s the same thing as Memorial Day and Labor Day.
The same type of food is had. So, it’s not specific to July 4th. Whereas, clearly turkey is appropriated for one day of the year. If you don’t have turkey that day, something’s wrong.
Yeah. What are you doing there?
And so, the aspect of Christmas speaks for itself.
How do you feel about the Christmas turkey or you’re okay with the Christmas ham? Well, that’s a preference, man. I’m tell people
some people I grew up with. It had to be the Christmas turkey. We It was the the the Christmas meal and the Thanksgiving meal were nearly identical. No, I grew up with uh with uh macaroni, uh ravioli, meatballs, lasagna, and it was homecooked.
I don’t know if you grew didn’t realize this, but I grew up with a heavy heavy Italian influence. Despite the Irish name, I I it’s no wonder I’m allowed. Think about this. Yeah.
What is this new information? So, come on.
Did you have a canoli? I Yeah, for sure. I actually had available, if you wanted it, Italian food on Thanksgiving. It was always there. At no point was there never not a pot with meatballs simmering. literally every day of the year, certainly on those holidays, but I can’t assign and I get that food is part of the holiday and it’s part of the gathering, but fireworks, if I say fireworks, we automatically go to July 20 or July 24th, July 4th throughout the entire country. So that’s why it has you you if I say hamburgers and hot dogs, I could very well say Memorial Day, Labor Day and and be fine. But if I say fireworks, we go right to the one holiday. So outside of a specific food and religion, July 4th is number one.
And if you don’t put it at number one, get out of
way to craft an argument. That was beautiful, PK.
Well, it’s the only way to craft it. It’s the most obvious way to craft it. Got to have your fireworks. A good fireworks show, preferably at a game. And I’ve seen the I’ve seen fireworks shows multiple places over the years, obviously. But
what about a monster jam? I haven’t done that.
That’s what I’m doing tomorrow night. Oh, really?
Well, an activity.
Yeah.
Doesn’t necessarily have to be a game, but some game is the best. Going to be at a sporting venue. It’ll be a recycle stadium.
The local tradition, I don’t I can’t speak to other places, but the local tradition of letting people go down on the field, which they’ve done at the Bees and at Real Salt Lake, and it’s just obvious watching it happen. There’s a gazillion kids who like, “This is awesome. I’m down on the field. Here come the fireworks.” You know, the buzzing of the crowd is awesome. The other stuff is good. And I’ve seen them I saw when I was growing up, I saw them at the county fair. We’d be at the racetrack and see them. Cool fireworks shows there. Uh
yeah, you don’t need to go to a game though.
No, no, you don’t have to.
If you want to, that’s fine. That chef’s kiss. That’s top drawer. But when I was a really little kid, we used to watch him uh from a car parked on a hillside and they shot him off at a shopping plaza down near us.
That good enough.
Yeah, that was a pretty good show. I also think what also is cool, something you haven’t mentioned is overwater. I haven’t grown up with that, but I’ve seen it and it is cool. That absolutely is cool. The uh the stuff I’ve seen I’ve seen it uh I’ve seen video from I think the video on the mall at DC looks cool, although I’ve never done it, but my wife grew up back there and that was their tradition was she went down into the mall and apparently everybody drove there and it was just a total mess. I mean, we’ve probably a lot of us have been there as tourists. It’s a total mess. There’s a gazillion people. Uh but uh yeah, go down to the mall and watch them. But Boston and New York do them over the water. Those look awesome. I’ve seen I’ve seen Sydney, they do them over water. That looks awesome. Uh
Sydney does it on July 4th over water.
No, they do theirs on New Year’s Day because obviously
Sydney, Australia,
they don’t have the Fourth of July, but I’ve seen the fireworks over water and it’s cool. But that doesn’t I don’t I don’t care what they do in Australia. Doesn’t see you know, growing up in San Diego, you think I would have seen it, but I don’t even know if they have one down at the bay. Maybe they do, but we never did that.
Didn’t they have the famous one where they all went off at one time down there in San Diego a couple about 10 years ago?
They had a malfunction.
There was a malfunction. I don’t remember where it was, but I do remember the malfunction.
Water. The only malfunctions I want are wardrobes. Thank you, Janet. Janet and Justin. Right. There they go.
And I believe it was an accident. Hey, you’re the one. I suppose somebody has to believe that. Might as well be you. And I immediately closed my eyes. So, I never saw it.
DJ, you were right. It is 9:00 on a Thursday. It is July 4th needs to be way more respected than it it needs to be put on a much higher level. Where’d you go for fireworks when you were a kid after you were done with the pasta on uh New Year’s and rolled around to the 4th of July?
I probably had pasta again.
I created my own.
Oh, you did the neighborhood fireworks. No, no, I don’t like neighborhood fireworks. Uh go to like a a
I’m going to show
a local park. I’m not a big do it on the sidewalk stuff. This isn’t really
and I didn’t I didn’t understand that till I got to Utah. People are big on that.
Big on that here. Yeah.
Then I promptly did it. My parents came up and and we did my parents and my sister came up a few times and we went to Sugar House Park. Yeah, that was a big show for a long time. That was a big deal when that stopped. Snakes and sparklers. But where’s good stuff, man?
Good stuff. This is the good stuff. Snakes and sparklers.
Are you nuts, dude? You need stuff to explode. Go boom. So, you’re going to tell me that you don’t have no black cats, no Roman candles, or screaming mimies?
No.
Oh, come on, man. You don’t got no lady fingers, buzz bottles, snicker bombs, church burners, finger blasters, gutbusters, zippity-doos, or craft flappers?
No, I don’t. You’re going to stand there owning a fireworks stand and tell me you don’t have no whistling bung holes, no spleen spplitters, whisker biscuits, honky lighters, who’s doser don’ts, cherry bombs, nipsy dazers, with or without the scooter stick, or one single whistling kitty chaser?
No, cuz snakes and sparklers are the only ones I like. Nice. You think when they’re when they’re writing bits like that, they’re just cracking themselves up? Absolutely. They’re sitting around a writer’s table just
Yeah. Joe Dirt’s a legendary
and there’s there’s a million of them that they probably put out that they they’re like, “Yeah, we can’t put that in.” But it’s hilarious. When I was a kid, there was a kid and I went to the same school all eight years, and there was a kid in a grade ahead of me, and he had lost some of his finger tips, and the word was that he did uh personal fireworks. Oh,
so they scared us all all for eight years and and it stuck with me.
It worked, didn’t it?
Oh, yeah,
it did.
Yeah.
Well, and because I mean
Jason Pierre Paul will show you exactly what not to do.
There’s that that’s a highprofile example right there. But the truth is if you work in a newspaper or or in a newsroom in radio or TV, man, the you hear these stories every year, so they really do stick with you.
Yeah. And his name was Olivero Mandia. I remember it.
No, the name stuck with you.
Well, everybody went there was two classes per grade.
So, everybody knew, right, in small community
and everybody went the whole eight years. Occasionally, you had a few people move in, but no. And and I I went to the same grade school with the same kids for eight years. And for seven of those years, we were all together in the dumb class. But you were smart enough not to do that. And I was smart enough to know that I was in a dumb class. So I figured for the rest of my life, just give them the minimum because that’s all they’re expecting. So why surprise him?
DJPK, it’s 975 the zone. Where does the Fourth of July rank on your holiday? Hit us up on Twitter. David DJ James Facebook DJ and PK. We’ll get to more of your responses coming up. More on the uh Utah Jazz and a potential trade and more college football ought to excite you. you fans unless you believe in jinxes. I suppose we’ll get to that next. Stay with us. This is Jake Scott and Ben Anderson.
I told you we went to this country writers thing in Nashville where you saw these different people that write hits, but mixed in the middle was this old-timer. He sang a song about his dog dying. I’m not kidding. Like there were people going, “Play a happy song.” Like yelling at this guy, “Be happy.
Be happy.” Guy played like three songs and everybody was like, “Oh, I’m so depressed.” You know what? Read the room.
Yeah. Right. You lost,
by the way. And he said he said before he he sang the dog dying song, he’s like, “Nobody’s picked this one up. I can’t I can’t figure it out.” I can. The song was called for Pete’s sake. And the dog was named Pete.
It’s a little on the nose.
I’m just coming to this theater to rock out on some country I barely like. And they got to sing about a a dog dying.
Dying dog for Pete’s sake.
Oh, it’s so bad. So bad, dude.
Here. Jake Scott and Ben Anderson every day from 10 to noon on 975 KSL Sports Zone. We were just talking Fourth of July and fireworks and Ral Salt Lake going to have their fireworks show on the 5th of July. They’ve got St. Louis coming in for a game Saturday night. We got a fourack of tickets. 801575 zone. 801575 zone. Four tickets to go watch RSL and St. Louis Saturday night at America First Field Call right now. 801575 zone. Where’s July 4th rank on your holiday list? Hint, put it up there pretty high. Tommy correcting you, PK. Man, you can’t even ease into a holiday weekend without someone telling you wrong. I think it’s Independence Day, not the July 4th holiday. And I rank it number one. Tommy says, “Same thing. Tomato, tomato. Get out of my face.”
Bruce, I rank New Year’s Day number one. It’s the best because of college football. All Bruce wants is a holiday and the Rose Bowl. See, that’s why it’s not in my mind a holiday because it’s associated with college football. No other holiday is associated with something that isn’t related to the holiday. So that’s why I can’t put it as a holiday. You see what I’m saying?
Nope. I really don’t. I think uh
because they could because when New Year’s Day falls on a Sunday, it’s not college football. Ah. So that that one.
So the holiday in your mind is college football. It’s college football, not New Year’s Day.
Well, speaking for Bruce, sorry, Bruce, if I’m uh not speaking well for you, he would just say now it turned into 48 hours and they play it on the second. But what does he do on the first? Uh probably watches the NFL,
right? Because it’s Sunday.
Exactly.
That’d be my guess.
Right. So it’s not college football.
Thank you for making my case, as you would say.
Thank you, Bruce. [Laughter] Tyson, I rank it numero ununo. So he moves in front of Thanksgiving and Christmas. Puts it in the top spot.
I’m okay with that. Brian Holiday laughing crying emoji. I work all weekend. It’s just another day to me. Great. You and him, the two hardest working guys in the world. Yeah, I I would disagree with him because even if you are working, which some sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t, but even when you’re working when you’re working on a holiday, there isn’t as much management around it. Has a different vibe.
Isn’t that true? Most businesses, I guess. Maybe if you have a job often.
Ah, yeah. Yeah. If you’re hourly, you’re right. You’re getting the old time and a half or double time. Yeah.
Yeah. More cash,
right? You want to hear something stupid? It’s about 40% of this show, but sure, why not? Let’s go.
I know, but I’ve been working on you. I’m trying to cut it down to 20.
I hope next year I can do it. That’s my goal for 26.
Worked all these years. Go ahead.
My My father-in-law always worked on holidays
because of the extra money, right? And he worked for American Airlines. He was a reservation supervisor. And so he always worked and he worked swinging shift.
Uhhuh.
And so he lived over in California. That’s where I ended up that’s how I end up getting that job cuz we went over to visit him before we were going to get married.
Uhhuh.
And uh I called that one day. I I called the newspaper. Do you have Hey, can I speak to the editor? Yeah. You got any openings? Yeah. They interviewed me that day. It was so bizarre. You know what I mean? And and then I end up blah blah blah. took the job. Well, so we move over in that community where he was living and uh unfortunately he died at 59. So we had about 5 years where we lived over there and he was alive and fine. And this was his second marriage, not my mother-in-law. And he married a local, so her family was in in the in the area. And she worked better at work, blah blah blah. And so the two of them worked on every holiday. So what really stunk and I went along with it because I was a good soldier for 5 years. We would have Thanksgiving at 11 in the morning and I hated it.
11. Absolutely. Yes. Because we’d have it before he wanted to have it with his daughter before he went to work.
Yeah. Okay. So I get that part. So, I grew up with it was Thanksgiving dinner and we had extended family in San Diego that had show up, right? And and it tended to be uh people were showing up at 4:00 or 5 and you’re eating about 6 and but as I got older and moved here, we started doing it and for the same reasons, you know, going to work 11 is just too early. I I couldn’t do 11, but I found like the the big meal at 2 or 3, I like that better.
100%. I can do the 2 or 3:00 start and it’s not what I grew up with, but I really transition. I like it.
But 11 a.m. That’s that seems seems a bit early.
It Yeah,
I’m still I went along.
I mean, brunch at 11. Well, you’re a team player, PK. Yeah. And you know, we’re we’re we’re basically we I I literally moved over there my first year of marriage from from Arizona and my wife came several months later. So, it’s time to establish new traditions and all that, but that one that was a tough one.
I know. I went but I went along with it and it sucked. I hated it. Uh, but you know, I was I was just And then he dies at 59 and he marries somebody young who’s still living. So, I still haven’t gotten a dime of inheritance. Talk about ticking me off the story.
Yeah.
DJ PK, it’s 975 the zone. Ysef Nerkage has a press conference coming up. We’re going to let you hear a little bit of that. And there’s a trade room around the Jazz we’ll get to. Stay with us. DJ and PK.

Hour three of DJ & PK for July 3, 2025:

• Walker Kessler worth rumors of his trade value?

• Where does Independence Day rank?

• Listener holiday power rankings

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