The Warriors SECRET Free Agency Plot Is Happening

The Warriors SECRET Free Agency Plot Is Happening

Yo, what’s going on? We got lots to talk about, man. We got lots to talk about. Where my folks at, man. Where the early birds at, man? It’s going to be a big show, man. Let’s get into it, man. The Warriors are apparently involved in a um an NBA record 17 trade. Currently, as we speak, as of me recording this, the Warriors are in talks for a 17 trade. the the Suns and Rockets are expanding their Kevin Durant trade and including the Pistons, the Lakers, the Warriors, the Timberwolves, the Hawks, and I think there’s like one more team. So, yeah, it’s it’s things are happening, man. Things are moving, bro. If you’re just getting in, the Warriors are currently in talks for a 17 trade as we speak. Uh yeah, so uh we’ll see, man. Hopefully we get some news soon, man. I’m ready for some I’m ready for something to pop off. I’m I’m tired of us on the sidelines just kind of waiting for the offseason to happen. I’m ready to see him make a move, man. So yeah, let’s get a quick roll call. B Master, what’s up, bro? Darth Vader, what’s up, my guy? I see you, my man. Early birds, man. What’s up with it? But yeah, man. We gonna kick off the show, bro. Let’s just get right up into it, man. The offseason’s underway. It’s already been a lot of crazy moves. The Denver Nuggets, not going to lie, the Denver Nuggets made some good moves. The Nuggets, that Nuggets team looks pretty formidable. They traded Michael Porter Jr. an unprotected 2032 first round pick for Cam Johnson. Cam Johnson just might be better than Michael Porter Jr. He just might be better. and he’s on a cheaper contract which opened up so much flexibility for their team in terms of roster building, roster construction. So then they wasn’t done. So not only is Cam Johnson a perfect fit next to Joic, off ball shooter, one of the best shooters in the league, got some size. Not only that, they went and got um Bruce Brown for the vest minimum. So basically for nothing, like a few a couple million bucks. So they got Bruce Brown, they got Cam Johnson. I think they traded Dario Sarich who was unplayable for them for Yonas Valenunis. So they swapped their um backup center. So now they got a better backup center. Jonas Valenunis, you know, he’s not no game changer, but he’s better than Dario Sar is definitely that’s definitely an upgrade. So the Nuggets got Oh yeah, and they got uh they signed Tim Hardway Jr. too for like a little spark plug microwave score off the bench. So the the the Nuggets are pretty nice, man. That’s going to be a tough team. Like I mean, y’all got to remember they took the this the champions, the OKC Thunder, the seven games. If Aaron Gordon didn’t blow out his calf, they probably beat the they probably beat the um the Thunder. And then they’re the ones in the finals and they probably win against the Patriots. If if they got to the finals against the Pacers, I would probably pick the Nuggets. So, and they and they were dealing they just fired their coach. So, they had like an interim coach like for like the last portion of the regular season going into the playoffs. So, there was like a lot of like instability and they still finished the season pretty strong. You know what I’m saying? And they just got a lot better. So, the Nuggets are going to be pretty nasty next season. It’s going to be a tough team to beat, but we going to see what the Warriors do to counter. So, we going to see, man. So, if y’all just get in here, the Warriors are currently in the midst of negotiating a 17 trade. You heard that right. An NBA record 17 trade is currently being discussed as we speak. The Rockets and the Phoenix Suns are expanding the Kevin Durant trade to include five other teams. The other teams included are Minnesota, Detroit, I think Sacramento, um the Hawks, the Warriors, and Lakers. So, it’s it’s no it’s no um there’s not much details beyond that in terms of like what the Warriors um involvement with that is. I got some theories, but as of now, you know, we got to wait and see. I’m just checking to see if anything came through the came through the wire here. See, let me see what y’all talking about real quick. Y’all talking about talking about Al Horford? Yeah, man. Al Horford, Herb Jones, trade to the Dubs. That ain’t happening. All right, man. Start from the top. Why hasn’t Why hasn’t Horford signed yet? So, the Warriors are apparently the front runner. The Warriors are apparently the front runner to sign Al Horford. The other teams that have been uh rumored to be involved are the Denver Nuggets, the Cleveland Cavaliers, uh the Lakers, and the Warriors. The Warriors are currently, as been reported by multiple sources, the favorites. I believe retirement is also on the table for Al Horford if he doesn’t like the situation that he’s going into, but I highly doubt he’s going to retire. He’s still a productive player. he he can he has a chance to hop on with a contending team and try to try for another chip while still being, you know, able to contribute. So, yes, the Warriors are the favorites. The reason being out of all those teams I’ve mentioned, the Warriors are the only team that can offer him a starting spot. Alher’s old, yes, correct, but he’s still better than he’s still better than Quinn Post. He’s still better than TJD. He’s just straight up better. He’s a veteran presence. He He provides two-way stability. He’s not He doesn’t add size necessarily defensively, but he adds switchability. Yes, Al Horford can is still a good switch big. For those of y’all saying, “Oh, he’s old. He’s he’s he’s cooked.” Y’all need to watch some tape. Anybody that watch tape from Al Horford up up literally up until the regular like the playoffs, he was moving his feet defensively in that Knicks series, I saw him I saw him guarding. Was it Brunson? He was moving his feet, man. There was this there’s this um this clip uh circulating. He had a game against the Lakers where he was he got switched on Luca and LeBron probably like 15 times total between those two. And he just just all stops just moving his feet, shuffling his feet, just getting stops, contesting good, like standing in front of him. Like he’s still a good he’s still a good defender. He’s not necessarily a rim protector, but he’s still an overall good defender in terms of just the defensive IQ. uh you know moving his feet just knowing where to be defensively just not making mistakes and you add that next to Draymond in the front court and Jimmy Butler who can you know who can make up for some of his defic deficiencies that’s a pretty solid front court defensively. Yeah, they’re still a little under size. I believe that Herford is like what 69 or 610 but you got Draymond behind him. You got Jimmy. I think that’s fine, you know. Then you got Quinn Post at the bench who’s 7 feet. We saw Quinnipost battle against Stephen Adams. Yeah, he got Yeah, he got, you know, he got bullied a little bit, but he held his own. Like towards the end of that series, as the series went on, he started to uh do a better job. So, you know, I say all that to say this, the Warriors getting out Horford will be a good move. And I keep seeing y’all saying Horford’s old. Horer is old. Y’all don’t want Horford. Have y’all seen the list of free agent centers after Al Horford? Have y’all seen it? It’s not good. It’s It’s not It’s really not good. So, like for y’all for those of y’all that’s so picky, the Warrior fans that are so picky that y’all turn your nose up to Al Horford because he’s old. If they don’t get Al Horford, you’re looking at Chris Bucher and Thomas Thomas Bryant. Like, it’s it’s it’s spooky. Like, y’all y’all can’t be so picky, man. The Warriors. Here’s the thing. Even with our Horer being old, it’s it’s still literally like five contenders that all want him. are all like literally trying to court him right now because they understand that they all you got to do is look at the tape. The man’s 38, but when you watch the tape, he’s moving just fine. He’s moving his feet better than a lot of a lot of centers in their 20s. He’s still a good player, man. He’s still a productive player. Yes, he’s old. You’re adding him to a core of other old players, but at the end of the day, the Warriors desperately need a stretch five. They desperately need a stretch five to unlock their offense. You got Draymond at the four who’s a non who’s a non-threat. You got Jimmy who doesn’t want to who doesn’t like shooting from the outside. So you can’t then not have a stretch five out there. And we saw corn post wither away in that Timberwol series to the point where he was damn near unplayable. He got played off the court. So even though he’s theoretically a stretch five, he wasn’t hitting shots and he got targeted defensively. So they couldn’t play him as much, which means you have no stretch five. If you can’t if your stretch five becomes unplayable, you you essentially have no stretch five. So Al Horford, you can’t target Al Horford. Teams aren’t gonna just be like, “Yo, let’s go out Al Horford. Let’s get Al Horford on the switch and let’s just go out Al Horford like they like they came with Quinn Post.” You can’t do that. He’s a good defender. So, and on top of that, he’s stretching the floor next to Draymond. He’s he’s legit. I mean, I know his his um his shooting uh dipped a little bit last season, but he’s legit a good shooter, man. He’s been shooting like 36 to 37 38% like the past like three or four years. Like, he’s a he’s a good shooter. So I think adding Al Horford and then that gives you two stretch five options on a in a rotation between Al Horford and Quinn Post to play next to Draymond. So you can always so you can always have like a dude bigger than Draymond next to Draymond and center that can also shoot. So it it it um it lowers the physical attacks on Draymond’s body having to play up having to play the five so much. Draymond’s now what 35 36. Y’all really want Dr. Plan Center like fulltime? Because if you don’t get out Horford, you’re probably have to play start Germany center again or you’re g have to get a bum to put in there as a placeholder and then you have to go to Germany center most of the game anyways. Y’all can’t be so picky, man. Like yeah, there’s a chance that the Warriors sign out Horford. He’s 38 years old and he’s just he’s just cooked. He’s just cooked. But you based off the foot the film from last season, he’s not cooked. He’s still a good player. There’s still multiple contenders currently right now trying to court him, trying to win him over to join the team. So, I don’t know, man. Y’all y’all need to look at the the the list of free agent centers and then get back to me for the for those of you that’s saying, “Oh, Al Hor’s old.” Y’all can’t be too picky, bro. The Warriors literally can’t afford anyone else that’s good. And there’s not there’s not even anyone else that’s good available. You’re not getting Miles Turner. He signed with the with the Bugs. We’ll talk about that later. You’re not getting you’re not getting Azarie. He resigned with the Timberwolves. All these theoretical names that y’all that y’all really want because like they’re young and in their prime and whatnot. The Warriors can’t afford them. Those dudes are those dudes are making like 25 plus a year. It’s not happening. The Warriors y’all was also Some of y’all was also roasting like before Brook Lopez signed with the Clippers. Some of y’all was like, “Nah, I don’t want Brook Lopez either. He’s too old.” The Warriors couldn’t even afford him. The Warriors couldn’t even afford him. He he went for two years 18 mil to the Clippers. The Warriors literally couldn’t even offer offer enough money to match that. So, it’s just like if these if these front offices that have scouting departments and teams that are watching films and breaking down free agents and watching their season before they commit this money to him is saying, “Yeah, this guy’s old, but he’s still a productive player. We’re going to commit to him.” All right. You gota think, you have to assume the Warriors front office is also doing the same thing. I’m pretty sure they had a scouting department watch every minute of Al Horford’s season last season and watched how he moved and watched and watched um how he played and they came they had a little huddle and they said yo he’s still a good player and he’s the best option we got with the money that we have available so we’re going to go for him. So y’all got to just stop with being picky man. Old ass team. Yeah. I mean yeah it’s going to be an old team. You got you got Steph who’s 37. You got Al Horford who’s 38. You got Draymond who’s 36. You got Jimmy Butler who’s 35. Here’s the thing, man. The Warriors in that scenario would have to hope that they could do like some 2014 Spurs type type rotation where they got like their core players are like, you know, they’re all old dudes. They got like the Spurs had like Tony Parker, Genobi, and uh Tim Duncan. are all old, like mid30s, but they had a bunch of like they had a bunch of young dudes around surrounding them to to to kind of mix in into the rotation to sprinkle in them young legs and athleticism to support the older guys and you can keep their minutes down. They had a deep roster that that Spurs team had a deep roster. So all those old dudes um they only in the regular season all they only had to play like what max 24 and 25 minutes like I know Tim Duncan’s old ass was playing like 22 minutes. They kept them fresh for the playoffs and then they upped it up a little bit more to like 27 minutes. But they had a bunch of young dudes that could just step in and just and just support the team. Now they had like Thiago Splitter, they had um they had Quai, they had um who else they have that was young. Um I can’t remember right now, but the the the fact still remains. the formula when you have these old players, you just you try to support them as best you can with young dudes to get them to the regular season and hopefully they have enough juice saved up for that final run because this these last few years is the Warriors final run. So, you have to hope if you can get Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler and Draymond Green into the playoffs healthy with a a decent supporting cast and they’ve and they’ve had enough they’ve saved enough energy throughout the regular season with with enough support from the supporting cast. They have enough juice left in them knees, them old man knees for one last run to empty the clip to go all in. You saw Steph Curry in 2022, his regular season wasn’t necessarily great like statistically, but once he got but once he got um once he got to the finals and he saw these young Celtics like the flaws and the inexperience and he smelled blood, he was like he literally turned into Michael Jordan. Like Steph Curry in the finals literally turned into Michael Jordan. Like he saw the opportunity ahead of him. He saw the position he’s in and he was like, “Yo, I’m gonna if I I’m going to conjure up that extra something for this final push.” And he turned into Michael Jordan and he was literally unguardable. So you have to hope that they can get this old ass team in position. Hopefully a few things um you know uh hopefully a few things um break your way. you avoid inj um injuries, you get to the finals, you got this old veteran team, you got, you know, they’re not playing back to backs anymore. They’re not playing four games in six nights on a road trip anymore. They’re not flying to like four different cities in seven nights. It’s a seven game series. We got all these vets that have all this experience. Steph Curry, one of the greatest of all time, top two, top three all time. Draymond Green, one of the greatest defenders of all time. Four chips. Steph four chips. Jimmy Butler, no chips, but but he’s been to the finals twice. Okay. He’s 35. He’s he’s been in the league what 14 years. And he got Al Horford. He’s 38 years old, but he’s still a good player. And he’s a champion. He’s been illegal at what 16 17 years. That’s a lot of experience, man. If they get to the think about like this, think about a theoretical situation. They get to the finals against like a young inexperienced team. And that team might be more athletic. They might be younger. They might be faster. But they get to the finals and all of a sudden you’re you’re lined up across from Steph Curry who smells blood, who sees a chance, an opportunity for title number five. And he sees this young team like he did against the Celtics in 2022. And he was just like, “Y’all smell that? Smells like barbecue chicken. Cooked their whole team. Destroyed them. Marcus Smart got absolutely destroyed. He was he was what was he? the runner up for defensive player of the year. Runner up for defensive player of the year. He got bait, destroyed. It It got to a point where Steph was destroying Marcus Smart so bad that Marcus Spart Marcus Smart was purposely not switching on uh screens because he didn’t want to guard Steph. He was he was getting embarrassed. He wanted no parts. This dude would leave his his big man out to die on those switches. Steph would get Steph would call for a screen and then it’d be like Robert Williams out there guarding Steph. And then Marcus Smart, he he he’ll fake go through the screen. He and then he he’ll die on it because then he just put his hands on his knees. He’s like, “Look, bro, that’s all you. That’s all you, bro. I want no parts of that, man.” Like, that’s how badly Steph was cooking him. And he was the runner for defensive player of the year that year. So, you get Steph against one of these young dudes in in the finals, man. Anything can happen, man. And the East is wide open, bro. The East the T the Celtics are done. They just dismantled their team. They’re done. Um, the Bucks the Bucks are done. This the East is wide open, bro. If the Warriors can just get through the the West and get to the the East and have this young team line up ahead um across from them with Steph with the opportunity to get title number five. I like their chances, bro. I like their chances, man. Smart was a defensive player of the year that year. Oh, he actually won it that year. That’s crazy, bro. He was getting destroyed. Yeah, the paces are done too, bro. The east is wide open, man. Um, oh shoot. Yo, uh, Richard wrote, “Bro, thank you for the donation, brother. He said JK is holding out like the fat chick at the club end of night like she’s a 10, waiting for a Chad to pick her up and take her home.” I mean, that’s a pretty accurate analogy, bro. If I’m Kaminga, man, because I think if I’m Kaminga, bro, that my agent’s getting fired. He’s getting dismissed. He’s gone. He’s He’s gone, man. Because the Warriors supposedly had 30 million a year on the table for him for an extension. and him and his thirsty ass agent was like, “Nah, nope. Nah, we nah, we going for the max.” So now he might not even get that. He might not he might not even get 25 mil. He might not even get 22. The way things are looking with the market, Kaminga has leverage in terms of he can just hold out and kind of just be annoying and hold up the Warriors offseason and kind of like make them get impatient and just force them to make a move. But he but he doesn’t really have leverage in the sense that if there’s no market for you, you can’t leverage another team wanting you unless the Warriors are actively participating and help you get to that team. So the Warriors can probably offer Kaminga more money than anybody else. And I don’t like if the Warriors offer Kaminga 20 million a year, is any other team um coming out the the wet works to um to match that? No. I also don’t think Kaminga is going to take it. I think Kaminga and his agent are so prideful and they know they [ __ ] up that if the Warriors came in with a 20 with a 20 million year offer like let’s say it’s like three years for three years for 60 or four for 80. Kamingo will be like nah I’m not taking that. I’m I’m going to take the qualifying offer this season which is like seven seven or eight million and then next season he’ll be an unrestricted free agent and he can go wherever he wants. I don’t think I don’t think Kaminga is taking a low ball, bro. Like I I think at this point they’re in so deep. They’re so committed to like this betting on yourself thing that they’re just not gonna take they’re not gonna take a low ball. They’re not. So either the Warriors get to a number where to where him and his agent are kind of like all right let’s just take this or they’re going to be like nah we ain’t signing that. And then he’s going to be an unrestricted free agent and then the Warriors are have to trade him in off. They they literally have to trade him at the deadline. They have to or or he walks for nothing because he won’t come back. If he gets to unrestricted free agency, he he’s a zero chance he’s coming back because he’s gonna be so disrespected and so disgruntled and pissed off that he had to play an extra year on that low number that he is there’s zero chance of coming back, man. Plus, that would be like five years playing occur and getting your your minutes like messed around with, you’d be gone, bro. Um, Cody. Yeah, man. So, there’s a 17 trade currently in talks right now. I’m hoping it gets completed while we on live so I can do a live reaction. And if the Warriors make out like bandits and and get something good, we going to get the live reaction from Holly, man. We going we going to turn up in here. So, uh, I appreciate y’all for pulling up on me, man. My bad. I’m just checking for updates. Um, I apprec I appreciate the um, what the hell? So Jimmy Butler’s best friend, this Ernie guy who’s like always like with him everywhere he goes on Twitter. He says, “Someone make me a graphic with Brad Beal in a Warriors jersey, please.” He just said that two minutes ago. Is he I don’t know that I don’t know if he knows something or if he’s just throwing stuff at the wall and just trying to get some content. I don’t know what what what that what that’s about, but it’s a lot going on, man. So if there if the Warriors are involved in like a 17 team trade, I would assume that’s because it’s has to do with Kaminga, I think. But I don’t know, man. Sounds like uh JK may go to Sacramento. Here’s the thing, man. So here’s the thing, man. So the Kings are apparently one of the teams that does want they want Kaminga. They want a piece of Kaminga, bro. So, they’re trying to offer some garbage. They try to offer um who’s that bum on their team that they drafted a few years ago. Who what’s that dude’s name, man? He’s like the light-kinned guard um something Jones Buns. They tried to offer him and uh they tried to offer Jones some other garbage. Hold on, let me see if I can find it. Let me see if I can find it. Man, it that it was comedy. It was like a poo poo platter. Like it was literally like a like a slap in your face trying to pull a fast one on the Warriors. Like if I if I was Mike Dylan, bro, I would have I would have met up with the with the Kings front office, pretend like I’m make the trade and then just give give their [ __ ] GMA noogie or something, bro. Like it was ridiculous. Uh let me see, man. What was the damn trade, man? The trade offer was so disrespectful. Anyways, man, I can’t find it right now. I’m not about to just spend this whole time looking for it. Um, but they try to offer like uh nah, not Tus Jones. Nah, Devin. Devin Carter. Yeah, Devin Carter. They try to offer Devin Carter and like some other bum for Kaminga. I was like, man, get the hell out of here, bro. Um, Malik Monk is a name that they’re willing to throw into it, but the Warriors don’t sound like the Warriors want to do that. Where I’m at with the Malik Monk for Kaminga trade, I wouldn’t do that trade unless that was like one of the last resort alternatives where it’s like, all right, either take Malik Monk or you’re taking somebody’s dookier platter than that. So, it’s like Malik Monk’s a good player, man. Like, I’m not gonna Oh, yeah. Sarge. So, the so the Kings man. Man, so they so they just traded um they just traded uh Valenunis for Dario Sarge from the Denver Nuggets, right? So they then said, “Yo,” they called the Warriors. They’re like, “Yo, how about this? Hear me out. Hear me out. We’ll give y’all Dario Saridge and what’s the other dude’s name?” Devin Carter. We’ll give you Dario Saridge and Devin Carter and we’ll throw in like a second round pick like 20 20 30 second round pick and you give us Kaminga. Come on, man. Get out of here, bro. get the hell out of here, man. But anyways, back to back to uh back to Malik Monk. So, um I wouldn’t necessarily be like rooting for like, “Yeah, let’s go get Malik Monk.” Like, yeah. Yeah. Cuz that’s like the that he’s like he’s like the the Teeu version of Kobe White. Like Malik Monk, he he’s he’s teamu he’s teamu Kobe White, bro. Like Like Yeah, he’s a good player and he be cooking us. He be cooking the Warriors every time he plays him. Like I will give him that. like against the Warriors, he’s [ __ ] prime Darren Williams. Like he’s just a monster. But Malik Monk in terms of like a consistent basis, like in terms of like relying on him, I’m not sure, you know, that’s not my first choice. Now, he does feel a need the Warriors that the Warriors actually do need. They do need a shot creating guard or I mean, preferably they need a shot creating wing that has size, but those players are just too expensive, man. most players a shot creating wing with size that’s that’s an all-star or near all-star which the Warriors can afford. So, if you’re going to get a shot creator, if you need a shot creator, uh you’re probably you’re probably getting um it’s probably going to come in in a form of of a guard like a like a microwave guard, which is what Malik Monk is. You know, Malik Monk is a solid player. He can get to the rim. He can shoot. He’s athletic, but he’s 6’3 and he plays no defense. That’s the thing, man. It’s just all right. You’re going to play Malik Monk next to Steph. Yeah, he can get a bucket or whatever. Yeah, he can space the floor or whatever, but it’s just like that’s barbecue chicken defensively, man. It’s barbecue chicken, bro. He gonna be getting destroyed out there, man. And then you so it’s just like I don’t necessarily want to add dudes that can’t play defense next to this old core with the because like when you’re bringing in these when you’re bringing these these others to play around Steph Jimmy Draymond you want them to like be able to take things off their plate which and one of the main things that you would hope is just defense being able to guard up and play defense. If Malik Monk is out there getting cooked then you got to put somebody else on him which is more than likely going to be one of the older guys which means they have to do more work to cover for this younger dude that’s supposed to be out there to help us. but he’s the one getting covered for it. So, I don’t necessarily want Malik Monk unless it I mean, unless it was just like one of the only options. There’s a reason why the Warriors haven’t made that trade already because if if the Warriors really wanted Malik Monk, they would have just been like, “All right, let’s do let’s just do that. Let’s just get this over with. Let’s get Malik Monk up in here and we’ll be good.” But the Warriors are but the Warriors doesn’t seem like they have interest right now. Like, there might be like some surface level interest as a like a last resort, but they’re not running to make a trade from Malik Monk and trading Kaminga for him. Um, and also was just like, man, I’d rather if that’s if that’s the if that’s the offer, I mean, would you rather have Malik Monk or a disgruntal Kaminga? I don’t know, man. That I guess if that was the options, a disgruntled Kaminga that that still doesn’t really fit next to Jimmy and Draymond or Malik Monk. I guess I would rather have Malik Monk, I guess. But even then, I wouldn’t be thrilled about it. Like that would that wouldn’t be a trade I’m like I’m happy about. I just I’d be kind of mad about it, not going to lie. Um, another team that’s interested in Kaminga is the Pelicans. So, the Pelicans are actually very interesting and they’re my favorite uh trade destination for a sign of trade because they have two wings that I really that intrigue me. Herb Jones and Trey Murphy. Now the Now the uh the Pelicans are very interested in Kaminga. Kaminga next to Zion. That doesn’t sound like a good fit, but hey, that that ain’t my that ain’t my team. That ain’t my problem. They they want Kaminga. They want to put him next to Zion. Whatever, man. So that’s what they want to do. So, uh, cool. Give us Tre Murphy or Herb Jones. I preferably Trey Murphy. If if the Warriors could come out of this with Trey Murphy, they made out like some bandits, bro. That’s that’s a heist. They made out like some absolute bandits, that would be a finesse of finesses, man. Trey Murphy, if you add Trey Murphy to this team, okay, let’s let’s let’s brainstorm real quick, man. Let’s do like a theoretical brainstorm, man. And I don’t really know how to how to the linguistics or the the the logistics or whatever of um what T Murphy trade would look like, what what has to be included in terms of salary and whatnot. But let’s just assume for one second they could turn Kaminga and a first round pick and some other stuff into a Trey Murphy and then they sign they sign Al Horford. That team’s pretty nasty. You got Steph, Jimmy, Trey Murphy, Draymond, Al Horford starting five. It’s pretty nasty. That’s pretty nasty. It’s a lot more shooting, a lot more spacing. A lot more versatility. A lot more versatility. And then you got you still got Pods, Moody, Quinn Post off the bench as your young guys. You got these young dudes you just drafted that you’re hoping can give you something. But I wouldn’t count on that. That wouldn’t be too bad, man. That wouldn’t be too bad. Um, but yeah, I would want Trey Murphy, man. His basic, man. He He’s a 69 sniper. He’s a 69 sniper. He’s adequate defensively. He’s not like a lock down offender defensively, but he’s like adequate. He has length. He’s he’s pretty pretty rock solid. He’ll be solid. That would be a really That would be a really sneaky good trade for the Warriors. Um, the only the only downside with her the only downside with Trey Murphy is that he’s injuryprone. He always not always injured, but like he does miss time. I think he’s had I think he’s already torn his ACL. Um he’s had some other stuff. So that’s the thing. That’s that’s like the only downside is like all right this it’s not like he’s a young dude but he’s not necessarily like an iron man you can count on every night because he might get injured. Um, in terms of Herb Jones, I would be sat if if the if Kaminga was dead set on leaving, he just wanted to get the hell out of here. I would be satisfied with getting Herb Jones back. They’re two different types of players. They’re both wings. Kaminga is more offensively slanted. Herb Jones is obviously more defensively slanted. Um, I think Kamika is more talented than Herb Jones, but Herb Jones would be like a piece that if you put him defensively next to Draymond and Jimmy, that would be nasty, man. That would be that would literally change the that would change a lot for the Warriors because they’re probably not going to bring back GP2. They’re probably not going to sign a traditional like uh shot blocking rip protecting big. So, you have to like uh you have to like um you got to improve that that perimeter defense and Herb Jones one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. So, I think that would be uh I think that would be a solid uh return if they could turn Kaminga into Herb Jones because let’s say you get Herb Jones back and then you you sign Al Horford. So, you got Steph, Jimmy, Herb, Draymond, and Al Horford. That’s five pretty good rotation players. That’s a pretty solid like starting five, closing five. That’s That’s not bad, man. That’s not bad at all. It’s not bad. Herb for Kaminga. One for one, no picks. Yeah, I don’t think that’s happening. I think that I think the Pelicans are going to want at least some type of like draft compensation just because I just think they’re they’re going to value their guy more. So, they’re going to want to like get some picks just to make themselves feel good about themselves and make that trade happen. But, I don’t think it has to be like is it a Yeah. I mean, would y’all do Kaminga and a a first round pick for Herb Jones? If if if the Pelicans are like, “Look, we’ll do it.” But give us a first round pick and we’ll do it. Are y’all making that trade? Let me know in the chat. Yes or no? Kaminga and a first for Herb Jones. If that was what it took to get the deal done, are y’all doing it? Yes or no? Cody said yes. Donnie Warren, what’s up, bro? Dante, what’s up, my man? Daily meditation, what’s up? Cheyen, what’s up, bro? Rip Cougar, I see you. Felicio, I see you, brother. is retire. What’s up Dante? What’s up Berserk? What’s up Rennell? What’s up HT Stage? What’s up man? Cool vibe. What’s up bro? But yeah man. Um yeah I don’t know about that one either man. Like a first is tough. If it was like a protected first, then I’ll probably just do it. Just like whatever, man. Let’s just do it. But if it was just like a straightup unprotected pick and Kaminga for her, that’s tough. But I think the fact that you got to think about it so much means it’s probably a fair deal. Cuz if it was just Kaminga for Herb swap straight up, that kind of sounds more I think that the outcome of that or the the consensus would be consensually like, yeah, that’s a good like do that trade. So, the fact that throwing in the first round pick makes you got to think about it, that probably means that’s more of a real a realistic outcome to get it done. So, uh so yeah, for those of y’all who are just now tuning in, the Warriors are currently in negotiations as a part of a 17 trade in NBA uh record. The record was last season a five team trade that included when they traded Klay Thompson and got um they got Kyle Anderson and Buddy Heield back. But this but this trade is like a going to break a new record if it goes through. They’re just expanding the um they’re expanding the the the Kevin Durant trade to Houston. But yeah, let me see. Oh yeah, one more thing about the Kings as a trade as a trade uh scenario for the for for Kaminga. The the one player I would I would like want if I’m talking trade signing trades with the Kings is Keegan Murray. You give me if y’all if they throw King and Murray on the table, we can talk. I think that trade benefits both teams. You know, Kings fans will probably be like, “Hell no.” But I mean, look, man. The the the Kings need they need more athleticism. They got Sabonis. They got Demar Rose and Sabonis are their two best scorers. Those dudes, they ain’t athletic, man. Like, it’s it’s just not they’re not. So, then you got Keegan Murray out there who’s not necessarily helping that athleticism problem. He’s solid, you know, but he’s not necessarily like, you know, getting to the rim and like and applying rim pressure. So, um I think Kaminga on that team, I mean, obviously Kaminga next to Demar Rosen and Sabonis might not be the greatest of fits offensively, but I think Sabonis kind of wants out. Demar Rosen’s at the near the end of his tenure in in in uh sack. If the Kings really believe in Kaminga, all right, you get him in there. He’s your guy. You you you invest in him. You believe in him. He’s your guy. You move off to Marty Rosen. You you figure out what you want to do with Sabonis. See how Kaminga and Sabonis look together. Move off to Marty Rosen and go from there. You go from there. So, but I think Keegan Murray on the Warriors would be kind of would be kind of nice. 68 uh 3 and D uh 68 3 and D wing. That would be the Warriors can use that, but I would much prefer I would rather have Tre Murphy over Keegan Murray. That’s just me. Some of y’all might think otherwise. Um, but I like I like Trey Murphy’s aggressiveness from the three-point line more. He’s just way more aggressive, way more, in my opinion, more versatile of a shooter and offensive player. Hold on. Anthony Slater just reported something. Oh, what’s this? Anthony Slater just said there’s nothing near the finish line on the Jonathan Kaminga front as a as a third night free agency wraps. Conversations ongoing with the Warriors and several teams on uh conversations on going with the Warriors and several teams. Warriors also wait on Al Horford decision. So, the Warriors made their pitch to Al Horford. They’re just waiting for him to make his decision, I would assume. So, here’s the Warriors pitch for Al Horford. Also, this update wasn’t really much of an update. I mean, I guess waiting on Al Horford’s decision was was the update, I guess. So, the Warriors made their pitch. They did what they could. They’re kind of just waiting on Al Horford to make a make a decision. Um, you see there’s nothing near the finish line on Jonathan Kaminga, but they’re still talking to multiple teams. All right. So, here’s a here’s their pitch for um here’s your pitch for Al Horford. First of all, this is a you’re you’re probably the Warriors probably can offer Al Horford the most money besides I think Denver. I think Denver is the only team that can offer more money, but the Warriors have the advantage. Okay, so just to recap, the the teams that are most interested in Al Horford are the Warriors, the Lakers, the Nuggets, and the Cavaliers. So, all four of those teams have have made their pitch. They’ve they’re trying to and he’s they’re all waiting for him to make a decision. So, I guess right now he’s kind of mulling things over with his family. He’s kind of just going through the the situations with his with his agent and kind of just deciding what he wants to do. So, all these teams are just waiting, right? So, the scenario in in Denver, all right, you’re playing in Denver. You’re going to be playing behind you’re coming off the bench. Like, it’s just there’s no way around it. You’re coming off the bench behind you got you got Jokic and you got um um Aaron Gordon at at Power forward. It’s zero chance you start. Maybe he’s maybe he’s at the point where he’s okay with that. He’s 38 years old. Maybe he’s just like, I don’t care. I just want to win a championship. I get to play next to a great player and Jokic. Fine. I come off the bench, whatever. But but I mean, Jokic don’t miss games, though. That’s the thing. Like, it’s cool to be like that vet that’s going to come off the bench when you know, okay, maybe I can like get more opportunity because this guy’s not that durable. But it’s like, bro, Joishic is going to play damn near every game and he’s going to be playing like 36 minutes a game at least. And Al Horford, he’s not a power forward. So, it’s just like you’re going to play double bigs, I guess. I guess, but it’s just like that’s not his natural position. So now you’re putting you’re either putting a 38-y old Alford at power forward or you’re putting Yicish who’s like 270 at at power forward. It doesn’t that doesn’t that doesn’t fit for me. So you’re looking at a role where you’re probably playing like what 15 to 20 minutes a game if you’re at Horford in Denver. Now granted you do have a chance at a championship but you’re coming off the bench and you’re playing 15 to 20 minutes and you’re probably not going to start any games. probably you might start a few like you’re just gonna miss a few games but so that’s that. So now you got Cleveland. So Cleveland uh they can’t I don’t think I don’t think they can offer more than the Warriors and they and they also don’t have a a starting job a starting opportunity for him. You got Jiren Allen and Evan Moby who are in just entrrenched in that starting lineup. There’s zero chance he’s starting over there. And also Evan Moy’s playing 37 minutes a game. He doesn’t miss games. He’s young. He doesn’t miss games. Jared Allen is playing at least 30 minutes a game. I don’t I don’t think he’s injuryprone. He might be. I I I don’t even know. But for the most part, you know, he’s a young dude. He’s not he’s going to be playing most of the games. So, yeah, you can you have an opportunity at a championship, I guess, with Cleveland, but you’re not you’re not starting. You have zero chance of starting. Um, so then, uh, you got the you got the, uh, the Lakers. So, the Lakers just signed they just signed DeAndre Aton, by the way. We gonna talk about that later in depth. So the so they so the so the Lakers just signed DeAndre Aton. So they the what the Lakers for sure are starting Aton. They had they probably had to promise him a starting spot just to just for him to agree. So there’s no shenanigans there where he they’re going to like try to lie to him and be like, “Hey man, it’s a open competition.” No, they had to promise Aiden that starting spot. So he and and LeBron started at the four. So So you’re not starting you’re not starting in LA. You’re coming off the bench there. Then you got the uncertainty with LeBron. Is LeBron standing? Is he going? You got the all these reports that the the the Lakers front office is not necessarily going for a championship. They’re trying to prioritize uh these next few years or they’re trying to prioritize the long term and and build around Luca. So then, so if you’re a 38-year-old free agent who might have one or two years left in the tank, one or two opportunities left to win a championship, why would you want to go to the a team that’s openly saying they’re building for the future? LeBron is over here uh causing ruckus behind the scenes trying to like make make [ __ ] shake, trying to make them trying to get them to make some moves and they might trade LeBron. So besides the aura of playing in LA, I don’t think that’s necessarily like a great opportunity for him. It’s like, yeah, you get to play with Luca, you get to play with LeBron. I guess that’s there’s there’s appeal to that and you get to live in LA, but it’s just like, bro, he’s 38 years old. Is does he really want to just live in LA that bad? Like I don’t think it’s about that at this point. I think he’s trying to win a championship and he’s trying to just play with good play with great players. Now you got the Warriors situation. The Warriors, their pitch is number one, we can offer probably the most amount of money in terms of like uh they have the most competitive uh financial offer. I think they can offer him the 6.8 mini tax level tax mini tax mid-level. Oh my god, that’s crazy. Uh mini mid-level exception. Mini mid-level taxpayer mid-le exception. What the hell? Anyways, 6.8 million. Wes can offer that. That’s probably the most competitive offer they can get. He can get outside of Denver, who I believe can offer more than that somehow. It’s crazy how they they just spawn all this money because they traded Michael Porter Jr., but that’s fine. Um, so the Warriors have the most competitive offer and they can offer him a starting spot. Like that’s the Warriors pitch. Like, bro, you come you come over here, you’re starting. Like Quinnipost second round pick last year. TJD second round pick a few years ago. You’re starting like you’re you’re playing you’re playing you’re in a starting lineup and you’re playing off of these great legendary players. You’re playing off of Steph Curry who cooked you in in the finals a few years ago. You know how great he is. You saw it firsthand. You experienced it in the finals where he looked like Michael Jordan. So you had a chance to play in this era’s Michael Jordan or this era’s whatever you want to call it, whatever you want to label him like one of the great all-time greats who’s still very much good enough to win a championship as a best player on a title team. you to play next to him, the greatest point guard of all time that’s going to set you up. Al Her is a student of the game. He’s watching He’s watching the film. He’s watching stuff get blitzed. He’s watching how the how teams guard the Warriors. He’s he remembers how the Celtics tried to guard the Warriors. Um in terms of blitz and stuff, he could just imagine himself in that position and just put himself in that position. He’s like, “Bro, I’m going to get open looks all day.” Like, that sounds pretty sweet, man. Like Steph’s getting blitzed. All he got to do is is kick it over to me and I’m just hitting these little catch and shoot. Just pick and pop threes all game. I ain’t got to bang down low in a painting and just bruise this old man body. I ain’t got to bang with these big dudes. I could just spot up all game. That sounds that sounds sweet. My bad. I’m just waiting on these uh these updates to come through. Uh that sounds sweet. So, and then Al Hford remembers playing against Jimmy Butler in the in in the Eastern Conference finals, Eastern Conference semies, all that stuff against the Heat. He sees he’s seen firsthand how great Jimmy Butler is from him like, you know, from from the from how unguardable he was against the Celtics. They couldn’t guard him. So, I’m I’m sure he has like that that level of admiration and respect for both Jimmy Butler and Steph Curry on individual levels just from competing against him, seeing it from afar, seeing it up close. So, now you have a chance to play to play with both of them. Not one of them, both of them on the same team and just add to that and just build off that and add what you bring to it. And then you got Draymond who I know I know Alher respects Draymond like he knows what Draymond does defensively. He sees that like Alher is a smart player. He’s a smart high IQ player. He sees the value Draymond brings. So, he’s probably thinking I got Draymond behind me defensively. And then I got I got Steph and Jimmy that’s creating that’s creating looks for me and I can just kind of plug in and just space the floor and just be rock solid defensively. That sounds like a pre and I’m starting and I’m playing for a team that has championship aspirations. That sounds like the best combination of a of um of Atlanta spot out of those options. So that’s the Warriors pitch. So if it’s is it enough? Who knows? What’s been reported is that Al Horford is currently right now mulling over his decisions. The Warriors are just waiting. They’re waiting. There’s nothing more they could do. They made their pitch. Al Horford is is he’s thinking about it and we’ll see what happens, man. But for those of y’all that saying Horford’s old, he’s he’s cooked, bro. He ain’t cooked. He is old, though. And if the Warriors don’t get Al Horford, it’s this. I’m tell I promise you, y’all ain’t gonna like who they end up with at center. If y’all think if y’all think the Warriors ending up with Al Horford, who’s a two-way stretch five with championship experience, is a bad outcome because he’s old, just wait until y’all see who they would have to sign if they don’t get out Horford. It’s it’s it’s it’s going to be ugly, bro. It’s gonna be like Chris Buchet or some bum like that. So, the Warriors got to get they got to sign out Horford because he’s the only stretch five on the market that can that can actually be a good rotation player and and support the vets and bring and contribute. All these other dudes are going to be getting benched when it when uh crunch time comes, man. Telling you. Now, you can say the Warriors are pretty damn bad if they got if they’re dependent on Al Horford picking them. If if the Warriors like playoff chances or hopes is dependent on a 38-year-old Al Horford picking them as a free agent destination, then you can I guess you can argue the Warriors are cooked if that’s if that’s the situation. But hey, man, it is what it is, bro. It’s hard to build teams around these expensive older players, man. like the longer you’re in the league, the more your um the more your max contract um the bigger percentage of the of the the salary cap your contract counts for. So with Jimmy Butler who’s been in the league for like what for 15 years, Steph Curry has been in the league for what 16 years, 17 years or something like that. Draymond like like like just Jimmy and and Steph’s max contracts, they’re both getting paid $60 million. That right there is already $120 million on a salary cap payroll. So you’re trying to build around them. Then you got Draymond’s who’s 35 making 25 million a year. Like bro, you it’s hard to build a team in this new era in this new um this new CBA era where this second where the second apron is essentially a hard cap. It’s essentially a hard cap, man. So like y’all they’re they’re they’re trying to make do what they got in terms of signing free agents and if they don’t get horer bro it’s going to be it’s going to be ugly man. But yeah I also want them to get Melton. I see a few a few of y’all mentioned Melton. Yeah Melton will be a good get on a vest minimum if they can get Horford. the two check marks I want them to do in free agency. Go get Horford, go get the Anthony Melton for the vest minimum. If you do that, all of a sudden, you’re starting to see like a little bit of a vision for what they can do. Um, in terms of like the roster construction, that wouldn’t be too bad. Um, yeah, Milton’s coming off ACL. He’s injuryprone player, but if you’re getting him for the vest minimum, man, what’s the downside? There’s literally no downside. It’s like if if he’s injured again or if he’s a bum, you gave him a vets’s minimum contract, which is like three million bucks. It is what it is, man. For the almost every vet minimum signing for any team, for the most part, more often than not, they’re not going to be contributors like that. They’re going to get you through the regular season and then the playoffs, they’re probably not going to play. There’s only a few players every year who sign for the vest minimum that’s actually like still playing heavy minutes in the playoffs. Usually for a vet minimum player, they’re on a vet minimum for a reason, man. Because they’re not that good anymore. They’re either not that good or they’re just not that good anymore. You know what I’m saying? So if you So if you can get Milton on a vets minimum, you have the upside of, okay, if he’s healthy and he’s still basically the same player, you’re getting a dude that probably that’s probably worth like what 15 million a year on the open market for three million. That’s the upside. The downside is, okay, he’s injuryprone. If he’s injuryprone, you just don’t play him. he’s he’s just not available. But you did but the ass but the you didn’t allocate that much that many assets to it. Um you didn’t allocate that many assets to bring them in. So give me give me uh Melton for the vest minimum. I think I don’t think GP2 is coming back. I think GP2 I think the Warriors are ready to just move on from Looney and GB2. They already moved on from Looney. By the way, shout out to Big to the Loom Dog. Barry a legend. Always much respect to Looney man. And what is it? 10 years in the Bay, bro. Much respect, bro. Shout out to Cavan Looney. Got that bag. He got 16 million guaranteed from the Pelicans. That’s a That’s a crazy bag, man. I don’t That’s crazy. Who are they Who are they bitten against themselves? Cuz the Warriors were never going to match that. The Warriors were never matching that. So, I don’t know who the Pelicans were bitten against, but shout out to Kavon Looney, man, for getting that back, bro. Because if the options was to resign with the Warriors for the vest minimum or to go go get 16 million over the next two seasons, I’m taking that money, bro. It’s a wrap. I’m taking that money, dude. Like for for for like for dudes like Looney who who hasn’t necessarily made a lot of money in their careers, always got to maximize the dollars. You got to maximize your your your um your career earnings, man. It’s easy to say for like a, you know, these dudes that stack at max contracts like over the course of like 10, 12, 13 year careers, or just take a pay cut to just go win a championship. That’s cool. They also got like endorsement money coming in, they also got like all these um all these endorsements and stuff. But for dudes like Looney who probably ain’t got no endorsements or if he does have some endorsements, they’re not paying all that much. And then he’s like he’s get he’s he’s got years where he’s getting he’s on he’s playing on the vest minimum. He’s playing for like five million. He’s playing for like three million. Bro, if a team is going to offer you $16 million at age 30, after all the injuries you’ve been dealing with your career after being a fringe player early in your career, bro, you got to take that money, man. That’s probably gonna be the most money he That’s the biggest bag he’s ever gotten and it’s probably going to be the last big bag he’s going to get. So, shout out to Looney, man. Shout out to Looney. Yeah, Looney’s an Iron Man. He was always available. Looney’s been an iron man the past two seasons, but before that he was always injuryprone. So don’t say he was always available because that’s just not accurate. He’s been an iron man the past two seasons, but before that he’s missed a lot of time. I want some news to drop, man. It’d be so lit if if the news just drops while we’re on stream right now, that’d be [ __ ] dope. So, for y’all those of y’all who haven’t heard, the Rockets and Suns are working on expanding the Kevin Durant trade into a deal that would involve a league record seven teams. Other teams involved in negotiations at the moment include Atlanta, Brooklyn, Golden State, Lakers, and the Timberwolves. Amir Coffee. I would take Air Coffee for the best minimum he could shoot 3 and D wing. Think he’s like a 40% shooter, right? I’ll take a Mir Coffee. Yeah, Warriors couldn’t afford to keep Looney. And I mean like at that point you just got to wish Leon the best of luck cuz the Warriors were never coming anywhere close to matching that. I think at the most awards was like yo we have a vet minimum on the table for you if you want that but we’re not giving you more than that. We can’t. We just we literally can’t like with our roster construction with Jimmy and Draymond. Just having Looney out there who can’t do anything offensively except get offensive rebounds. Can’t space the floor. Can’t finish it. It’s just not optimal anymore, man. You got Draymond who’s 36. They had to get somebody else in there. So they let Looney walk and I think they’re also just like, “Bro, they’re all in on Al Horford right now. They’re all in on Al Horford right now. Looney is just it is what it is, man. You you wish Looney the best of luck and just you move on.” So now the Pelicans got they traded for Jordan Pool. They just signed Kavon Looney and they and they’re interested in Kaminga. So, they’re trying to get the war. They’re trying to get the the um they’re trying to get the Golden State uh Pelicans over going on over there, man. They’re trying to get everybody that we have. Um so, yeah. Imagine if they had JP Kaminga and Lun. That’d be pretty funny. Um, but yeah, so my top signing trade targets would be Trey Murphy at the top, Keegan Murray at the the second one. I mean, the dream scenario is probably Kobe White, but I don’t think I don’t think the Bulls are budgeting on Kobe White, bro. Their asking price is insane. Um, oh yeah, I forgot, man. We gota talk about Dame. We gota talk about Dame Lillard. So Dame, uh, Dame got got waved by the Bucks. They actually waved him. And yeah, he’s a free agent. And apparently the Warriors are one of several teams that are interested along with the Lakers and Celtics. along with the Lakers, Celtics, Nuggets, and one more other team. But yeah, how do y’all feel about the Warriors sign of Dame? Now, just for context, he tore his Achilles what, a few months ago. He’s probably going to be out all the next season, though there are rumors that he he he might come back for the playoffs. But even if he does, that’s cuz that’s like a really unrealistic timeline. Even if he does, he’s going to be super rusty. He’s not going to be anywhere near 100%. He might be a liability out there. Just defensively, he’s going to be just not physically he’s not going to be there. He’s already he’s already a terrible defender as is. Then you consider the fact that now he’s 30 he would be at the now at the time he would be 36 coming off the Achilles freshly haven’t played all season trying to like he’s gonna his legs are going to be weakened when he when you’re off that long like trying to rehab like your leg strength is gone he’s going to be getting destroyed defensively like at that point he might be a liability more so than he’s helping the team. So, if you sign Dame, you’re signing him for him to rehab with your team this season and then you hope you’re hoping that next season he can contribute this like this the season after that. How would y’all feel as Warriors fans about getting Dame? So, the the the Bucks are going to be paying Dame I think $22.5 million for the next five years. So, every year for the next five years, they’re going to be paying him $22 million. So, he got that bag on the way for the next half decade. Shout out to Dame. That’s that’s that’s that’s amazing. Um, so for a dude like Dame who’s made a lot of money and he got still got money coming in, he might not just be like, “Yo, I just want to get the biggest bag possible. Who can give me a bag?” Because he’s already got he’s already getting that money from the Bucks. So, would Damen Lillard be willing to sign with the Warriors for the best minimum? Would Damen Lillard be willing to come off the bench for Steph? These are questions that we don’t know the answers to. Only Dame knows what he what he wants to do. Don’t know how prideful he is and how willing he is to do that because that’s going to take a big hit to your ego and your pride to, you know, play behind a dude that you compared yourself to for a decade that everybody compares you to that’s saying you’re not better than him. You’re coming off you’re coming to his team. You’re playing for the vest minimum and you’re playing behind him. So that’s a huge ego pill to swallow to to to accept all those things. But if he is, if Damon is just like, “Yo, bro, I’m just trying to come back.” Because for those of y’all who don’t know, he’s from he’s from Oakland. He’s from the town. So, obviously, the Warriors were his childhood team. I’m sure he’s fantasized about putting on a Warriors jersey like throughout for years, like throughout his adolescence, his childhood, and all that stuff. So, this would be a dream come true on top of the the ability to play in front of like all all his um all his family, all his friends back home. and just hey, you rocking out with Steph for like a year or two and yeah, your role is not going to be like as a star of the team as your team, but hey, you’re a part of it. You rocking out. You going to hit some big shots. You going to get the crowd going. You’re playing you’re playing for the Warriors, man. Childhood dream. So, uh, y’all let me know how y’all would feel about how y’all would feel about Dame. And also, I mean, more more likely than not, he’s not gonna be the same player when he comes back. He’s just not. But because you gotta think, he’s gonna be like what, 35, 36 by the time he’s by the time he’s healthy or healed from the um from the Achilles. So, just off of age by itself, you would you would say, “All right, 36 year old Dame, that dude’s he’s probably obviously not going to be in his prime anymore.” Then you got the Achilles tear. And for for a younger for a younger player, you know, it might not be as big of a deal, but it’s still career altering for sure. But for a 34 year old, 35 year old, that’s that’s tough. So he his lateral quickness is going to be cooked. His defense overall is already cooked. It’s going to be even worse. He’s not going to have the same level of burst getting to the rim, same level of explosion, same level of finishing. But the good news is he’s a he’s one of the best shooters of all time and his his ability to shoot the ball is not going to leave him. Now his now his his legs he might not have as much legs under his shots and he might get tired uh quicker because because of the injury but Dame is pretty strong and his his jumper he doesn’t use a lot of legs anyways. It’s mostly upper body strength. Um, so I don’t think that’s necessarily like a concern. What I’m looking at it would be like can can Dame off the bench after he’s recovered be a Jason Terry for the 2011 Mavs type contributor? I think that’s realistic. I think what you can expect out of Damon in terms of his skill set would be kind of like what Jason Terry was in 2011. Jason Terry in 2011 went for the Mavs. I mean, he was, bro, he was essential. like he was like he was a tough shot maker, you know, he was kind of a microwave scorer, but like you know, he was like hitting some tough shots like he was very important to their their championship run with Durk. So, Kade Dame K can Dame come off the bench and be and and basically be like Jason Terry and just hit big shots. He come in, you know, they try to protect him defensively with certain lineups. Yeah, he’s gonna play into Steph every now and then, but you know, he it’s mostly just he’s coming in for Steph. He’s hitting some shots, and if they’re playing together, if if you’re playing against a team that can’t make you pay def like um defensively, then he he can close next to Steph if he’s hitting shots. But I wouldn’t start Dame next to Steph. That would be insane. Like, you got two dudes in their late 30s in the starting back court and they’re both smaller. You can’t do that. He would have to be okay with coming off the bench. But Dame as a sixman in a bay, that would be dope, bro. Like, that would be so dope, man. Like, I want to I want to see would Would y’all think Dame All right, let’s compare him to Pool. Do y’all think Dame in a year from now or a year and a half, whatever it is, um, being a year and a half older and coming off the ACL, the Achilles injury is a would be a better player than Jordan P was in 2022. Who, just based off of what we know, who do you who would you bank on being like the more like more impactful player or more useful player for the Warriors? Jordan Pool in 2022 or Dame under these circumstances coming back in like a year and a half. Do I have any updates on Horford? Yeah, the update on Al Horford as of like 10 minutes ago is that the Warriors made their pitch, the other teams made their pitches, and they’re just the Warriors are waiting on Alford Al Horford to make his decision. So, Al Horford is mowing over his options, and he’s waiting to make a decision, and the Warriors are just waiting. They they can’t do much else. So, that’s the update. the Warriors are supposedly the front runner has been reported by multiple sources that say um uh the Warriors are the front runner, but that doesn’t really mean that they’re going to sign him. Like nobody knows what Horford is thinking. You know, he’s obviously undecided still. He’s still he’s still thinking about it. So just because the Warriors are considered the front runner doesn’t mean he’s gonna he’s for sure going to sign with the Warriors. Do I think he’s going to pick the Warriors? I think uh I think he will eventually pick the Warriors. I think I think the Warriors have the best I think the Warriors have the best pitch. They have the best um situation for him. They’re the only team really that’s interested that that can guarantee him a starting spot and they have the best financial uh in terms of like competitive offer financially. So, and then he has the opportunity to play with legendary players in Steph, Jimmy, and Draymond and play for Steve Kerr. So, I think I think he will, in my opinion, I think this is not any sources or anything. I think he will eventually pick the Warriors, but we’ll see how it plays out. John Dominguez, showing love from the East Coast, man. Shout out to you. King Corey, what’s up, bro? Liam Reed, what’s good, man? Rip Cougar, what’s up? Donnie Warren, what’s up, man? Chey, what’s good? Mr. Level, I see you, brother. Fanboy Podcast, what’s up? Stephen Camp, what’s up, man? Berserk, what’s up? Sean, what’s up? Aha. Papa, what’s up, man? Donnie Warren, what’s up? Zen, what’s up? Cortez, what’s good? Mr. Level, what’s good? I appreciate y’all for popping out on me, man. Um, oh yeah. So, how do y’all feel about the Lakers getting DeAndre Aiden? Good move, bad move? Like, how y’all feel about that? I might be in a minority, but I wanted to know parts of DeAndre Aiden. When I saw DeAndre Aiden was available, I immediately got happy. Not because I wanted the Warriors to sign him, because I knew that one of these teams that wanted Al Horford would then pivot to Aiden. So, the Lakers are one of the teams that wanted um that won out Horford. They still do, actually. Even though they signed Aiden, they still want Horford. But so, but before that happened, before he got waved, it was the Lakers and the Warriors were the front runners for Alford. They both wanted him. The Lakers at the time had opportunity to to offer a starting spot. If if the Lakers still had a starting spot to offer Horford with the same in the similar money, the Lakers probably actually have more money to offer to be honest. Or Horford probably picks the he might pick the Lakers. I like I wouldn’t bet on teams picking the Warriors over the Lakers. It’s just something about the Lakers. Dudes just love playing in LA. Dudes just love playing for the organization. So if it came down to that, it might have been tough. But the fact that the Lakers signed Aiden, the fact that Aiden was available, I was like, “Oh, this is perfect. The Lakers are literally going to try to get Aiden.” And then as soon like I think within the next like the next update was the Lakers are are are are um considered or sources around league consider the Lakers a heavy favorites or or or whatever for Aiden. I was like yes this is perfect bro because I want I wanted Horford. Excuse me. Some of y’all might be saying like what you’d rather have Horford over over Aiden who’s like young in his prime. He’s like what is he 27 26? Yes. I’d rather have Al Horford than DeAndre Aiden. Dude, Aiden is not a winning player, man. He’s not a winning player. Like, Aiden, he he, bro, he mails it in every night. He’s literally out there to just get his stats, get his 16 and 10, his 16 points, 10 rebounds, and he mails it in. He don’t play defense. Uh he he doesn’t he doesn’t do anything that contributes to winning besides like rebounding. Like, he’s a selfish player. The Blazers literally paid this man like $25 million to to to f off that they wanted him gone in the worst way. They wanted him out of there so bad, bro. They said he’s a locker room cancer. They said um they said he’s a locker room cancer. They said that he that he was just a selfish player. Like they want to know parts of him, man. Mr. Le Mr. Level said Horford has nothing left. If Horford had nothing left, it wouldn’t be five teams currently like try five contending teams trying to like bid for him. Come on, man. Like y’all y’all always quick to say like a old player has nothing left. If Horford had nothing left, it wouldn’t be so many teams trying to trying to convince him to sign. Like he has a plethora of options from contenders that are making pitches to him. They’re literally like probably damn near begging him like, “Yo, pick us.” And you’re saying he has nothing left. What what do you know more than these these NBA front offices that have scouting teams that are actually watching Horford’s film from the past season and watching how he moves and and deciding whether or not he has nothing left. If all these contendants teams with these with these scouting with these scouting departments that they pay millions of dollars to to um to employ are watching this film and saying that he’s still a good player, then it’s just like for for us as fans to just come in and just say, “Oh, he ain’t got nothing left cuz because of his age.” That’s just not It’s just disingenuous. It’s just not true. Like you like I watched Horer’s film last last season, man. Like he he was still a good player. Like he’s old. Yeah. He’s not as good as he used to be. Yeah. But like what option on the table do the Warriors have that’s better than Horford. 38y old Horford is 38year-old Horford is better than any other option on the table for the Warriors that they can afford. Anyone better than Horford, the Warriors can’t afford them anyways. That’s that’s like the thing I don’t understand. Anybody that’s theoretically better than Al Horford, the Warriors can’t afford them. They can’t. Anybody that they can’t afford, Horford’s better than them. And if you don’t, and if you think I’m capping, name somebody that’s available that the Warriors can afford that’s better than Al Horford. So, Mr. level. I’m not trying to single you out, bro. But I got to I got to use this as like a exercise for y’all. For those of y’all who think Horford has nothing left or he’s cooked, name somebody in the chat right now who’s better than Horford that the Warriors can afford. So, let’s let’s see it. I’ll wait. I’m I’mma wait right here. I’ll wait. Oolen is not better than Al Horford, brother. Oolen plays no defense. Al Horford is still a good defender. Oolen will be getting DMPS in the playoffs. Horford will still be playing like at least 15 20 minutes a game in the playoffs. Dron Sharp is an unproven young player who has never sniffed the court in meaningful minutes. You’re going to pencil in a young player that’s never played playoff minutes and Dron Sharp and put him over a championship proven vet that has that has proof of contributing to a to a um to a championship team. Dron Sharp. What has Dron Sharp proven at any point in his career where you can say for like without a doubt he’s better he is better than um better than Horford is not better than Horford brother I’m sorry I don’t know what to tell you zero if you’re telling You’d rather have Kelly Kelly Olen over Al Horford. That’s that’s I don’t know what I don’t know what to tell you. Um Quinnipost is basically Kelly Oolen. What is What is is is Olen that much better than Quinnipost? Like our Horford at least brings something different. He’s he’s a better Swiss defender than both of them. Oolen is barbecue chicken. He’s Swiss cheese defensively moving his feet. He’s he’s cooked. Horford was holding up against was holding up against LeBron Luc switches last season. He was holding up in the playoffs. I think he was guarding who was he guarding? Was it Brunson? He was moving his feet, bro. Like Horford at 38 years old is a better defender than Kelly Olen and Quinnipost. So that the age the age thing can’t even be factored into this argument because his age doesn’t limit him any in in these comparisons. So who else is available that the Warriors can afford that’s better than Al Horford? I am waiting. Let me see y’all put it in the chat. Mo Wagner, I don’t think he’s leaving the Orlando Magic. And the Warriors can afford him. I think he Mo Wagner can get at least probably like I would say Mo Wagner can get at least 9 to 10 million a year. The Warriors can only offer one player 6.8 million. So the Warriors can’t afford Mo Wagner. So yeah, man. Looks like y’all ain’t got no other names that’s better than our Horford. Now, I’m not saying that to pick on nobody, bro. Mr. Level, it’s all love, bro. You always supporting uh supporting the podcast, bro. Thank you for showing up. I just had to prove a point for the crowd that’s saying you just said Thomas Bryant. I Oh man, Mr. Levelville, bless your heart, brother. Bless your heart, brother. Anyways, oh man, let me just Oh man, that’s crazy. Anyways, let’s um let’s move on. Williams. Robert Williams. You giving up assets to trade for Robert Williams? Really? I’m not. You’d rather trade assets for Robert Williams than assign Al Horford outright crazy. Yeah, the Warriors need a rim protector, but they cannot afford a rim protector. What rim protector can the Warriors afford that’s actually good? There’s no rim protector. the Warriors can afford. You guys, you guys got to keep this in mind. The Warriors can only offer one player $6.8 million. What rim protector are you getting that’s that’s going to accept $6.8 million? It’s not happening, man. Thomas Bryant is crazy. Y’all saying Thomas Bryant is like is assining. You’d rather have Thomas Bryant over Al Horford. Are you serious? Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Thomas Bryant. You rather have Thomas Bryant over Al Horford. That’s that’s nonsense, man. I’m taking Al Horford over Thomas Bryant and Dron Sharp. If you give me an option, would I rather have Al Horford or Dron Sharp and Thomas Bryant? I would pick Al Horford, bro. Dron Sharp is an unproven young Raw player. He hasn’t proved anything. He’s proved nothing. How much of an upgrade over TJD is Dron Sharp? He’s probably an upgrade. He’s probably He’s definitely better than TJ D, but he hasn’t proven anything. Come on, man. Like, and he can’t shoot. Like, Dron Sharp, can he shoot? Can he consistently shoot? Come on, bro. Stop it. Stop it. Dude said Thomas Bryan, man. Come on. Come on, man. Lock in, y’all. This is This is This is nonsense. Absolute nonsense, bro. Love Horford. It’s not that I love Horford. It’s the He’s the best option. Like, I’m not like if the Warriors don’t get Horford, they’re going to have to settle for like Chris Bucher or like freaking Thomas Bryant. Those dudes ain’t the moment the playoffs start, those dudes are going to get zero playing time. Zero. So, it’s like you’re literally signing those players to get you through the regular season and then the entire playoffs is going to be dramat center versus Al Horford. He’s going to play in the playoffs. He can actually survive on the NBA court in the playoffs and give you minutes and contribute. He’s not going to make mistakes. He’s a vet. He’s going to contribute defensively as a as a a switch big and offensively he can hit shots. If when teams blitz Stepher can make you pay, can Thomas Bryant make you pay for blitz and Steph? Can Dron Sharp make you pay for Blitz and Steph? They can’t. It’s not that I love Horford. He’s literally the best option that the Warriors have. And if they don’t get him, they’re they’re kind of cooked. They’re literally kind of cooked. If they don’t get Horford, they might have they they’ll be forced to make a trade for a big man versus if they sign Horford. All right. Now, you can make that use that trade chip to go get a a shot creator or a wing. Holly is getting trolled, man. Y’all definitely troll me, bro. Y’all over here talking about some damn Thomas Bryant, bro. I’m about to I’m about to crash out, dude. That’s crazy. Crazy, man. Al Horford not too good in zone defense, though. Bro, y’all just being so picky, man. I don’t know if y’all y’all got to be trolling me, bro. Y’all being so picky. What big man available is is perfect across the board in every defensive scenario. Is Thomas Bryant good in his own defense? Is Thomas is Thomas Bryant a rim protector? Can Thomas Bryant move his feet? Like what what are we talking about here? Yo, what are we doing, man? Stop it. Stop it. Mr. Level, you’re Nah, Mr. Level, you’re trolling, bro. I’m I’m I’m done with you, dude. You’re trolling like a [ __ ] right now. Y’all is trolling me, dude. Anyways, man, I’m not gonna let y’all get me riled up no more than y’all already did. All right, we moving on to the next topic. Oh, yeah. The other teams that’s that’s supposedly interested in Kaminga are the Bulls and Heat. But the Heat the Heat don’t want to give up nothing good, man. They don’t want to give up Kellair. They don’t want to give up they don’t want to give up u what’s the other dude? Yic. Nicola Yovic or um what’s his bro name? Man, it’s getting late, bro. I’m getting tired. I still got work to do too later. Um they don’t want to give up uh my god, Jame Hakez. I don’t know why I couldn’t, man. They don’t want to give up Hame Jame Hame Hakez. They don’t want to give up Yovic. They don’t want to give up uh Kel Wear. They don’t want to give up nobody. They’re just like, “Yo, we’re interested in Kaminga, but we don’t want to give y’all anything.” It’s like, “Bro, get the hell out of here. Yeah, I’m cool off LeBron, bro. Josh for Kaminga. The Bulls aren’t doing that. Zero chance the Bulls do that, bro. Should the Warriors trade for a center after signing Al? I think the Warriors should sign Al Horford and then they should sign Trey L. I wanted Larry Nance too, but Larry Nance signed with the Cavs I think yesterday. I would have my my dream scenario would have been if we’re just talking about free agents would have been sign Al Horford and then you sign uh Larry Nance for like the vest minimum. But Larry N is off the board. So now my backup is uh Trey Lyles. Solid uh big guy, big man. He’s decent. He can hit some shots. He can kind of switch a little bit defensively. He’s not that big. I think he’s only like 6’9, but I think he’ll be good in a Warrior system. But sign out Horford. See how it looks. And if you need to make a trade at the at the trade deadline, then you make a trade for another big man. But I think for now, dude, sign Al Horford, see how it looks, see if Quinn Post made a took a leap. Um, you got a a center rotation of Al Horford, Quinn and Post, um, Draymond, and TJD. That’s not I mean, it’s solid. It’s not It’s not amazing, but it’s like it’s better than the the situation they’ve had. Like Al Horford’s an upgrade over Looney for sure. he would immediately be the best center they have besides Draymond. So, I think that that would like it would be an upgrade from what they’ve had the past few seasons. If the Warriors get out, then I get another big. Yeah, I don’t think they would either. They would have to they would have to see they would they would if they dig another big, they would wait until the uh the trade deadline and just to see because they want to see how it looks first. Like the Warriors are going to aren’t going to hoard a bunch of bigs like Al Horford, um Al Horford, Quinn and Post, TJD, and then Draymond of small ball lineups. That’s your that’s your centers. All right. You got Al Horford who’s your stretch five who who’s like a two-way stretch five. You got Quinn Post who’s your sevenfooter stretch five. You got TJD, who’s your rim runner, vertical threat. For the most part, they have a lot of the things they want to do covered in terms of skill sets. Like if you can combine all their all their um abilities into one player, that would be obviously the best case scenario. That would be an all-star. So, but they can’t do that. So, they got a bunch of different uh in that scenario, they have a bunch of different options for different situations, situational bigs. And the Warriors have always used like their center rotate, their center rotation as like a bullpen in baseball, like a pitching like a pitching bullpen. They got a bunch of dudes come in and play different in uh help out in different uh situations. Quinnip not playing summer league this year. Yeah, that [ __ ] kind of that is. I mean, I kind of get it. It was just like, all right, he’s like an older dude. He’s already proven he can contribute. At the same time, it’s like, bro, he needs reps. He needs reps. He needs to play as much basketball as possible. Yeah, you don’t want him to get injured, but at the same time, he’s only 25 years old. You can’t protect him from like playing basketball. like he doesn’t have to go all out on and um in summer league. He just literally just be out there just getting shots up. Like if I’m pointing post, bro, and I’m playing summer league, I’m just shooting ball as soon as I touch my finger. It’s it’s going up. It’s going up. I’m I’m throwing it up and I’m about to just get get some reps in just shooting the ball. So yeah, Mir Coffee would be a okay uh pickup. Let me see. Make sure nothing happened. Doesn’t look like there’s no updates, man. Unfortunately. Damn. But yeah, if y’all just now tuning in, the Warriors are waiting on Al Horford’s decision. They’ve already made their pitch. They’re kind of just waiting for him to um just pick where he wants to go. Yeah, the Rockets, the Rockets, Nuggets, and Thunder are probably the three best teams in the West. They all look pretty formidable. Even if the Warriors have like a perfect off seasonason, if they let’s say they sign Al Horford, let’s say they sign Dean Anthony Melton for the vest minimum, let’s say they sign like Trey L or something for the vest minimum and then they turn Kaminga into like um Herb Jones. Is that team better than the Rockets, Nuggets, and OKC? I’m not sure, but I wouldn’t count them out either. I wouldn’t because OKC, man, they’re not unbeatable. the that Nuggets team took him to seven. Uh they probably they probably lose to the Pacers if if Hallebertton doesn’t get injured. Like that OKC team, like they’re good, but like they’re not unbeatable. So obviously the Rockets, it took seven games to beat the Rockets last season. They just they just added Kevin Durant for essentially they essentially turned Jaylen Green and Dylan Brooks and Kevin Durant. They got better. But um after um after Jimmy Beller’s injury in that series, he was not he wasn’t the same player. That is that played a huge contributing contributing part in that series going seven. So the Warriors are banking on I think uh let’s see Ripk just mentioned it. They need P to take a leap. I think P specifically because the Warriors need another another guard. They need another guard to step up. So, I think they desperately need Pods to take a leap. If Pods takes a leap and they do those signings that I talked about, they get Al Horford, they get Melton, they get like Trey like a Trey L type dude and then Pods just takes like a a semile leap. That team’s pretty good. The team’s pretty good. The thing about the Rockets, they got so many wings, bro. They got KD 611 wing. Jabari Smith 610 wing. Dorian Finny Smith 68 wing. Tari E 68 wing. They got so many wings. They’re all like 6’8 and taller. And then they got them damn big men, dude. They they got the two big lineup option with Sangon and Steven Adams that gave us hell. And now they just added um they just added Clink Capella as a third dude they could throw out there that’s just a offensive rebounding demon. That’s a just annoying. He’s a lob threat, too. So the Rockets got better. I’m not even going to cap and try to sit here and lie and say they haven’t. But we obviously we still got to see it on the court. They still got to prove it. So we’ll see. Pause needs to play like hero on Miami. Yeah, I don’t think that’s necessarily P is more of like a he’s not as offensively slanted in terms of talent as Hero. Hero is a more talented shotmaker and shot creator. I don’t think Pods will ever get to that level, but Pod is a a more natural like all-around player in terms of like defense, rebounding, like defensive IQ, all that good stuff. But yeah, I mean, if Pods ever got to the level offensively of Tyler Hero, that would be disgusting because he’s a better defender than Tyler Tyler Hero. Walker Kessler ain’t happening, man. Do I think KD can win with Van Fleet and Sangon? I didn’t say I was gonna win. I said they were for formidable. But yeah, I don’t know about that. We got to see how they look together, man. Uh P reached his ceiling already. I think that’s a stretch, bro. That’s that’s a stretch. You can’t say that about a dude that’s still like as young as him. Like if he comes back with if his if he improves his handle and he’s a more consistent three-point shooter, he’s literally a better player. Like he’s a a mar like not just a marginal better player. If P’s come back with a better handle and a more consistent three-point shot, he he’s quite literally like not hasn’t reached the ceiling. He’s a better player. So to say that he reached his ceiling, that’s just that’s not true. There’s still things P can improve on. I can open up his game. Um, but yeah, man. Anyways, I’ve been going for an hour and a half. I’mma call it right here. I was hoping this trade got broke right here on stream, but obviously it ain’t happening yet. But hey, I hey, I appreciate y’all for showing up, man. Y’all show love. It was a great show, man. If y’all still here, man, everybody, please like the video. It means a lot, man. If you enjoyed this past hour and a half kicking in with me, man, just like the video. So, thank you. I’ll catch you on the next one. The moment like some real news drops, we going we got another live live stream lined up, man. Hopefully, the Warriors sign Al Horford soon. I do believe eventually Al Horford will sign with the Warriors. I don’t know when. Don’t know if it could be tonight. It could be tomorrow. Could be over the weekend. Who knows? But I think Al Horford will eventually choose the Warriors. But we just going to have to wait. In terms of the Kaminga situation, still unresolved. I think at this point the most likeliest scenario, I don’t know, man. I think it’s like kind of 50/50 cuz there’s like four or five teams interested in Kaminga and all it takes is one team that’s just like not having the offseason they want in terms of like the targets that they that they planned on to just be like all right let’s just go get Kaminga and then all of a sudden talks intensify a little bit more that team’s want to get throwing better assets going to the Warriors and now that the traction starts picking up and things get going. So, we’ll see. Man, if the Warriors could turn Kaminga into Trey Murphy or even Herb Jones, I think that would be a great outcome. I don’t think that’s likely, but the fact that the Pelicans have this much interest is means something. So, we’ll see. Um, yeah.

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