TRADED – John Collins JETTISIONED. Did Utah Jazz miss the window? Ace Bailey Shines in Game 2

TRADED – John Collins JETTISIONED. Did Utah Jazz miss the window? Ace Bailey Shines in Game 2

And now John Collins is gone. What have the jazz done and what are we embarking upon? Next on Locked on Jazzum. You are Locked on Jazz, your daily podcast on the Utah Jazz, part of the Locked On Network. your team every day. How are you? I am David Lock, radio voice of the Utah Jazz, Jazz NBA insider. This is Locked on Jazz. It’s your daily podcast on the Utah Jazz, giving you insight, expertise, geeky numbers, and hopefully making it way better to be a Jazz fan each and every day. Thank you so much for making Locked on Jazz your first listen of the day. We are free and available on all podcasting apps. and on YouTube. And to the everydayers, you’re the best. Everybody who said hi at summer league, love it. Thank you very much. Appreciate you taking the time. Uh and do uh greatly appreciate you tuning in. All right, what do we got today? We’ll review last night’s super fun game at Huntsman Center. Ace Bailey shines. Bryce Sensible record setting. Walter Clayton. Walt Clayton shows a lot of bounceback. So, a lot of good stuff there. We’ll look at the Jazz trade of John Collins where we sit today and what happens with Lowry Markin as well and address the questions you have of what is this team? Did the Jazz blow it? Why are we getting no value for our players? We’ll try to break that down for you all coming up on today’s edition of Locked On Jazz, which is brought to you in part by FanDuel, the official sports book of Locked On FanDuel. Right now, new customers get $150 in bonus bets when your first $5 bet wins. So, the Jazz traded John Collins yesterday. In exchange, the Jazz get Kyle Anderson, Kevin Love, and a second round pick. Let’s start there. Kevin Love, we’ll see. He did at some point in time, I think, have a house in Park City, Utah. Um, but I think this is not the team he if he is going to continue to play. I think he wants to be probably on a roster where he has the opportunity to to be on a a winning team and this roster does not look to be that. Kyle Anderson is a good vet and I think Kyle Anderson who has a relationship with Will Hardy from San Antonio will probably stay on the roster and will be kind of the Patty Mills of last year’s roster um for the Jazz. And the second round pick is um is a second round pick. Norm Powell went to Miami. John Collins went to the Clippers. So once again, the Jazz trade one of their pieces we’ve talked about trading for two, three years and get almost nothing. I mean truthfully get very they cleared space. They cleared the ramp. That’s what the intention was. But just in regards to value back, John Collins who last year had a monster year of 19 points and eight rebounds a game. He was a 50 40 85 guy and the Jazz get almost nothing in return. What’s interesting to this is that I think this is the third player Saxton Clarkson and Collins where the Jazz get nothing back. It shows that acquiring a player in Clarkson might be a little different but not a lot who has for whatever reason at that stage in their life little value on the NBA trade market whether it’s salary size to performance whatever the reason because Colin Ston and John Collins are good but rehabbing them on a team that doesn’t win games does not seem to be possible. The league was not moved by Collins Sexton and John Collins numbers. Both of them highly efficient offensive numbers on a team that lost a lot of games and the league was not moved by that. So that’s the first level. The second thing that’s happened here that’s kind of esoteric and boring is that the mid-level contract which used to be so important to aggregate into bigger deals right now seems almost impossible to move. I mean, the other side of this deal, by the way, is that Miami just got Norman Powell, who last year I thought should have been an all-star for the way he carried the Clippers in the first half of the season, and averaged 22 points last year, shooting 42% from three and 40% on a team that won 50 games when Kawhi Leonard barely played. They gave up Kyle Anderson, Kevin Love, and a second round draft pick to get him. I mean, Norman Powell is way better than Colin Ston, and there wasn’t a lot of value for him. In fact, there’s been almost no value for any mid-level contract Colin Ston, John Collins, Norman Powell, Trey Mann, Anthony Simons that has been moved this off season. the movement of that midlevel mid-level player, mid-level contract as a solo entity. The only one that like got some value is whether whatever you feel about the Michael Porter Jr. Cam Johnson deal. So, this is pretty in I mean this marketplace is just wildly different than what we’ve ever seen before. And then Austin said Ames said it in his opening press conference, the expiring contract is not a value. In fact, John Collins and Norman Powell both get moved partially here because they’re free agents who the team doesn’t want to resign. The Clippers and Norman Powell reportedly had contract extension talks that didn’t go well and so they the Clippers move on now. They also may be getting Bradley Beal. The John the Jazz didn’t want to sign John Collins and John Collins is great and so this is not a criticism of John Collins at all. If I am John Collins and I’m going to be a free agent next year and I don’t get an extension, I am hoarding all shots and all rebounds. That’s the way the game works. We didn’t want that. So, there’s just a marketplace right now that is crazy different. The first question I think that every Jazz fan is asking is, did the Jazz blow it? Did they miss a window? Did they blow it? So here’s what’s interesting. One is if we actually just take the value by which the Jazz took their players, got their players, they they virtually got the value back. So the Jazz traded Dante Exom for Jordan Clarkson back in 2019. The Jazz had to put three two or three second round draft picks with Exom to get Clarkson. And the Jazz had Clarkson for six years and then he they waved him. I I’d say like and Dante didn’t Yeah, they didn’t give up a lot. Um Dante didn’t have any value at that point and he was out of the league shortly thereafter to Europe. He’s back now, which is great. So they didn’t and they got six years out of Jordan. Colin Ston was coming off an injury and was really salary stuffing on that deal. Cleveland was trying to move him. Darius Garland was their future. He had no value. And John Collins deal’s crazy cuz John Collins is good. But the Jazz got John Collins for free. They gave up Rudy Gay in a second round draft pick that will probably never convey its next year’s 2026. And if it does, it’s like Memphis’s. So, they actually just got a second round pick back for John Collins, which is exactly what they kind of sort of gave up, but not even really. So, as much as we’re talking about a changing marketplace, the bigger story might be that trying to take a player’s value on a team that’s not winning and increase it by having them put up big numbers and get opportunity did that did not work. If that was the plan, that did not work. the so I think that that’s um sorry I’m looking at my notes to see what I had down. Um so I think that’s you know there’s two takeaways here. The market is harsh. The Jazz didn’t get anything for any of these three guys. The Jazz got these three guys for almost nothing. And so if the plan was to try to rehab their value for Clarkson we got value at six years on the other guys that did not work. I’m not sure that was the plan. The question a little bit that I have is is there any window here where the Jazz could have done what they’ve done this off season earlier and gotten some value? I think the answer is no because I think I don’t think that the threshold to trade Jon Collins neither the trade dead either the last two trade deadlines or last offseason was particularly high like there was I think we would same thing with Colin we weren’t holding on to them for some reason I don’t think and so I don’t have a feeling that the Jazz bypass I don’t know but I don’t have a feeling that the Jazz bypass some first round certainly not a first round back or multiple seconds if they did that they may have cost themselves a There is one other question that I have on whether or not how the Jazz approaches and whether it should have been done differently. I’ll bring that up next. Address where we are and what does this mean for Lowry Marketing. All those coming up as we continue on Locked on Jazz. 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So, where the Jazz sit today is where the question I had all last year is, could have we sat there last year? Now, we may not have had enough players, but in the midst of this rebuild last year, I enviously watched Washington, who was doing the similar thing to what we were doing, but without some of the shenanigans, right? Um, Bal Koulibali, Bob Carrington, Jordan Pool, they had Kyle Koosma, Alex Sar, they played those guys. I think if I remember correctly, they played Cory Kispert, Keshan George. I don’t I’m trying to think of who else was on that roster. Malcolm Brogden. They had to kind of hide a little bit. They had Colobby Jones. They got Chris Middleton at the end, but they basically had a roster of young players and they rolled him out there and it didn’t feel messy. And I remember talking to thorough wondering like, could have we done this? Should have we just should have we just moved on from the guys we thought we could get value from last year instead of having some of the awkwardness and that’s the one question I have is could have this all been if we weren’t going to get value for John Collins when we’re going to get value for Jordan Clarkson we weren’t going to get value for Colin Dixon when we went big game hunting last summer and then didn’t get it was there enough time to make the pivot then this pivot Right now there’s I’m not sure we had enough players, right? Because where we are now with the deck clear, I think we have a nine-man rotation next year with your point guards being Collier and Clayton, your shooting guards being George and Sensibah, your small forwards being Bailey and Cody Williams, and a threeman rotation between Lowry Markin and Kyle Filipowski and Walker Kesler. And that is your nineman rotation mixture. I I I I don’t know if you know we’ll have 15 guys on the roster. You’ve got Kyle Anderson. You’ve got Yousef Nerkage. You’ve got Simma Hiluke. I don’t know that I don’t know that we you know, we’ll see what else we get. Drew Eubanks actually is available. So, I don’t know whether we’d add him back to the roster. He was such a great vet to have around last year. Um I don’t think he signed anywhere else. I know the Clippers released him, but I think that that’s the nineman rotation. We didn’t quite have the guys to do that last year, right? Um, and I think that that’s where maybe my argument falls apart. You know, there wasn’t there wasn’t a case last year where you look at the Jazz players and you think to yourself, “Oh, wait. I forgot Taylor Hendricks in that, by the way. I forgot Taylor Hendricks.” So, there’s your 10-man rotation. It’s a 10-man rotation. It’s those 10 guys. There’s no doubt. I just forgot. Taylor Hendricks. Sorry. Collier, Clayton, Keonte, Sensibah, Bailey, Cody Williams, Lowry Markin, Taylor Hendricks, Walker Kesler, Kyle Filipowski. That’s your 10 guys. That’s what we’re doing. There’s it’s it’s clean. The question I had on last year is I don’t know as I’m asking whether we could have done this a year earlier. So Keonte played 32 minutes tonight. Walker played 30. Isaiah Collier played 26. Cody played 50 games played 21 minutes. Kyle played 21 minutes tonight. Sensible played 20 minutes tonight. I I don’t think there were I don’t think any of those guys left the year being short shifted. So I’m not sure there was actually necessary. It would have been cleaner, but I’m not sure it’s necessary. So, this is where we sit. Now, I’m so curious on what your emotion and feeling toward this is. I will share with you that part of me is refreshed. So, the overunder on some of the places has come out and it’s one of the lowest overunder win totals by a team in an NBA season in a long time. Fine. To Austin A’s point in his press conference, we are going to play to win every night and try to instill hope. I’m refreshed. It’s clean. I know exactly what’s going on. We’re going to play as hard as we can every night and the young guys are going to try and be outmatched a lot of times. But we’re going to get to watch Ace Bailey who’s oozing with talent. We’re going to watch Keonte George hopefully show maturity in his fourth year in the his third year in the NBA and come together. We’re going to see whether the Bryce sens we’ll talk about here in the summer league is going I’m and we get to watch Taylor Hendricks grow up. I I’m pretty excited for this. It’s super clean. I know what I’m rooting for. I know exactly what I’m watching and I think it’s going to be a super fun season. And it’s 10 guys that are all other than Lowry, super young, which now gets to the question, what about Lowry? So, if Lowry can handle it, which is going to be the question, I I think and I know the league is going to vulture around Lowry. It should, but I actually think keeping Lowry makes all the sense in the world. one, you’ve got to have some semblance of order here of somebody. Lowry is an unbelievable teammate and wildly skilled. And the hope of what you’re playing here is that while the young players are under some level of cost control, Keonte, Ace Bailey, all of them, they’re under some level of cost control, that some of them pop and obviously we’re going to be adding another one next year, but that somebody pops that Ace Bailey pops. looks like he could that Keonte George in his third year becomes really good. Um, those are probably the two biggest hopes cuz if they pop and suddenly you have something then you use the trade exception that we just got in the John Collins trade to try to fill in that gap. The trade exception I’ve kind of decided that I’m not going to try to bore you to death with all the details on it. It does have a chance to have some real value. It’s pretty big. It’s 26 million. You can slide anything into it and you got 12 months to do it. And the way they did it by being at July 8, they get this free agency. So, there is a chance that you can like get that that trade exception could turn into something. In fact, the trade exception we’ll see is more valuable than anything in any of the John Collins transactions as of this point. the John Collins for Rudy Gay and the second like that trade exception is the most valuable piece that’s moved. We’ll see whether they can do something with it and whether the timing is right because if nobody pops this year then the timing is not right. We need one or two players to pop under under cost control and that’s where Lowry becomes really valuable. Lowry’s contract and the new deal is a little funky. when you start talking about roster building and I think it actually works best for the Utah Jazz. I’ll explain next on Locked on Jazz. To tell you I’m certain on this would probably be untrue because I’m not entirely certain we’re certain on anything that’s going on in the NBA right now. But Lowry’s probably the third best player on a championship team, the second best player on a really good team, the third best player on a championship team. And Lowry’s contract at 46 million next year, 49 the year after that, and 53 the year after that is probably too much for a third best player on a championship team under the new collective bargaining group. The way I’m looking at way I watched last year where the two best players on the on the all the best teams had 85 million or less and then the next you took the next one it was like 110 and then they were able to have depth. Lowry at 46 49 and 53 feels high. However, for the Utah Jazz it might not be. I don’t know when. It’s certainly not 25 26 season that we think we’re clicking in here. Lowry’s at 46 next year, then 40 46 reach next year’s. But the model we’re playing with right now is you are you’re developing the young players in the youth movement and then if one of them pops, so let’s say Keiante moves into a topund player. Walker is a rotation player. Ace Bailey is coming into his own and is Jason Tatum. Not crazy. He’s really could be really good. Um, and you have these pieces that are now happening and you have Lowry, you’re better. You now can bring things on top of this. And the fact that Lowry’s contract might be too much. He’s your third best player, but Ace Bailey is your second best player. And Ace Bailey is now your second best player, but Ace Baileyy’s under cost control. Then the fact that Lowry is making 46, 49, or 53 is actually fine. You put him on Minnesota, it’s probably not fine with Anthony Edwards and what other other contracts you actually have on that roster. You put him on the Knicks, it’s probably not fine with Jaylen Brunson and Carl Anthony Towns. But if you have Lowry, maybe a little overpaid for your third best player, but because one of your first one or two players is costc controlled, then it’s okay in your roster building. So, I actually would argue that Lowry’s contract is best for the Jazz. So the question is whether Lowry can handle this and he’s been great so far, but I think that that’s this Lowry. There’ll be people circling for Lowry, but I actually think Lowry’s contract is going to be hard. Like if you’re the Warriors and you’re going to try to put him with Steph Curry and Jimmy Butler and he’s going to be a third best player that you’re now overpaying. You can’t I I don’t think that’s good roster management. That’s too much money. They already have a problem. Frankly, the Warriors do that. are paying Steph and Jimmy Butler a combined 110 million next year. That’s too much. You add in Lowry, it’s 160 million. That’s a problem. I don’t know how the Lakers would do it, but just an example, the Lakers are at 100 million in their top two players. You add in Lowry, you’re at 140, your top three. I don’t think you can build a roster. Denver, I don’t think has room to do these things, but Denver’s got the same problem. They’re at 101 million in their top player and then now they’ll be better. They’ll be at 121 in their two and they’ll be able to add Bruce Brown, Tim Hardway, and all these other they’ve they’ve gotten that to be straightened out, but they’d be at 140. So, if you start just running down teams that are looking to win, trying to add Lowry to those teams, I think, is very complicated, too. But for the Jazz, I actually think his roster fits pretty well. All right, let’s go to last night’s game. That was super fun. And Ace Bailey was really good. All right, here are my four favorite things about three favorite things about Ace Bailey. The Jazz ran an offball screen to him where he came off the ball tight curled in the lane. He got it. He was going to turn the corner and dunk it. Someone reached in and fouled him. He showed the ball too much. He’ll develop that. That is that is a real weapon if you can bring him off ball on a pin down and he can tight curl or pop out for a three with that quick release. That’s really a weapon. Number two, he took a no like movement, quick three, right corner, catch, shoot, let it go. No drop, no dip, no nothing. It was pretty awesome. My favorite play of the night. Ron Boon and I are talking last night during the game about Ace Bailey’s. Really, this is quite an adjustment for him. He scored 30 points a game in high school. He got the ball every time at Ruckers. He gone up and down the floor on three straight possessions without touching the ball. Was just going to the corner and we missed a shot on the left side and Ace Bailey soared in, went and got the rebound, turned around back and dunked it. Now, the athleticism to go get the rebound was ridiculous. But what was better was that he maintained the energy level on a where he’d gone up and down the floor three times without touching the ball and stayed engaged in the game and found a way to impact the game rather than just sitting in the corner. Now, the fact that he also has the athleticism to make the play, turn around and dunk it is pretty awesome. His defense late in the game was not good. GG beat him, somebody else beat him. Fine. I mean, he’s not going to be perfect, but there is a chance the Jazz really have something here. I don’t want to get too out of control on the Ace Bailey talk, but he oozes with talent. Oozes with talent. And I think it’s going to be super fun to watch him this year figure it out. And if he can continue to have that energy and play at that level where he’s making plays for himself, that’s pretty cool. Um, Bryce Sensib, I made the comment yesterday that I wasn’t as in love with his performance as everyone else was. He hit 58 from three. I already knew he was a good shooter. He’s now 11 of 17 from three, which is a little ridiculous. It’s pretty awesome. And I actually felt the exact same way about his first half. He had a bunch of turnovers. He made some mistakes. He did this and he was scoring. And I just wished he would. It was a play where he threw the ball, he came up the sideline, he threw the ball away, thought he was fouled, turned to argue with the official, therefore he wasn’t back in the play where after his turnover, they were coming back down the other way. He was late to react. He ended up fouling someone. And it was just like, “Oh, come on.” And and I said yesterday on the show, for whatever reason, I just have a super heart big heart uh soft spot for Bryce and just I think I probably hold him to a higher standard because I’m rooting for him. But he’s got this skill that is just incredible in the shooting and he’s got a chance to make a longtime NBA career and well 37 by the end of the night. Like geez louise. And that’s what he should be. And that was pretty awesome. like, yeah, there can be a few turnovers and a few this and that, but at some point when you’re dropping 37 and just dominating the game offensively, way to go. We’re not going to nitpick that. Um, by the way, one other thing on Ace Bailey, his open floor handle, bringing the ball up the floor, he shook GG Jackson a few times and really showed some pretty good handle skills. I mean, this is a piece of clay that is going to be awesome to work with for the Jazz coaching staff. I don’t know which coach is going to get him and who’s going to work with him, whether it’s going to be Mike or Drew or Chris or who it’s going to be, but boy, that is going to be something else cuz that is that is a there’s a lot to work with there. I mean, there really truly is some Tracy McGrady, Jason Tatum. I don’t want to go KD is the greatest offensive player ever, but like the ability to get to his spot at the free throw line, hit that jumper the other night for Bailey. What we’re seeing, it’s pretty awesome. Uh, two other guys last night, Cody Williams had 18 points last night, two rebounds, no assist. So the other part of his game, his handle still doesn’t let him do as much as he wants to do, but his size has changed it. There was a drive he had to the basket on the right side. Now this might be a summer league drive instead of an NBA drive, but he drove to the basket. He outstretched his right hand. He got it to the rack. He put it off the window and he scored it. That exact same play he tried a tremendous amount of times early. And because he was so weak, he got would get his angle would get pushed away from the basket and he’d be falling away from the basket trying to twist his right arm in. And so this time instead he stayed on line to the basket. And while he outstretched his arm around the defender, he was now strong enough with his 20 pound new pounds and upper body and he still got a long way to go, but he was able to hold off the defender and get that shot off. He was also able to drive left-handed a few times, make the contact and go to the free throw line. So I thought Cody was really much improved last night. And then the final piece of the puzzle was I thought we saw a lot out of Walt Clayton because that was a brutal first half for Walt Clayton. a brutal first half and he bounced back and actually closed the game and showed that tenacity and the winner and went from like one assist to six in a blink of an eye. Hit a big three, had an welcome to the NBA moment where he tried to step back three and GG Jackson blocked it. Didn’t seem phased and just kept playing. I thought that was impressive insight to who Walt Clayton Jr. is uh for the Jazz. All right, Thunder game today. Jazz look to win the summer league. They’re up 2. Uh super fun night. We’ll wrap it and then we head to Vegas on uh the Jazz head to Vegas on Thursday and they’ll play Friday and Sunday. I may head out to those games. Sounds like I’m as of right now. We will see just to go and see it. Jazz tonight against the Thunder 7:00. Hope you can come out to Huntman Center. If you do, please stop by and say hi. In the meantime, we send you the first ever 247 National NBA channel locked on NBA Plus. Check out Locked on NBA every night covering every game, every action. It’s all on lockmbba.

David Locke, radio voice of the Utah Jazz and Jazz NBA Insider, breaks down the John Collins trade and its implications for the team’s future. He analyzes the changing NBA marketplace, questioning the strategy of rehabbing player value on non-winning teams and exploring whether the Jazz could have pivoted to their current youth-focused approach earlier.

The podcast delves into the Jazz’s new 10-man rotation, featuring promising talents like Ace Bailey, Keyonte George, and Taylor Hendricks. Locke discusses Lauri Markkanen’s role in this rebuild, arguing that his contract structure might actually benefit the Jazz’s long-term plans. He also highlights standout performances from the Summer League, including Bailey’s athleticism, Brice Sensabaugh’s shooting prowess, and Walter Clayton Jr.’s resilience.

0:00 John Collins trade and Jazz future
5:09 Norman Powell trade and mid-level contracts
15:26 Projected Jazz rotation for next season
20:34 Lauri Markkanen’s value and contract situation
25:41 Ace Bailey’s impressive Summer League performance
30:15 Walt Clayton Jr. shows resilience and growth

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