Celtics Shake Up the Roster: KG & Paul React to Boston’s Offseason Moves
I don’t know if I would have given up Drew Holiday for um scoring. See, see people gonna look at this trade like that for Younger. Yeah, but they gonna say, “Oh, well, he average 20, he bring out more scoring.” But you got to understand when you when you when you got a certain type of DNA in in a locker room, franchise fresh. It’s it’s kind of similar to this. Look at what Milwaukee uh the Dame and Drew. They they got the scoring and they took Drew out, but it didn’t effect the effect wasn’t the same. You know what I’m saying? You’re talking about like more intangible type stuff. Yeah. He’s talking about like eye to eye. It looks like you gave up scoring for defense, but you don’t see all the small intangible things that Drew Holiday bring created winning. So, it made it made the Drew Holiday Dame Lillard like, “Oh shit.” But then you didn’t you missed all this other [ __ ] that he did. You know what I’m saying? I totally get. You see what I’m saying? You understand what I’m saying? Impact the game. Yeah. So people on the outside looking like, “Oh, that’s a good one. That’s a good Oh, he’s average 20 scoring punch, but they don’t understand like the little intangibles, the locker room, the the whole DNA of the team shifts a little bit. You know, when somebody on the outside comes to your club and think they can do the same things they did over there, over here, that ain’t how this work, right? you know, that ain’t the impact we need over here. But, you know, for a small patchwork, you know, to get through a what everybody’s saying is a gap year, which probably is because Tatum probably gonna be out all year. I mean, it’s cool for the one year and then you shedding cost and everything. You get an extra scoring punch. Yeah. That you that you missing from Tatum uh to help Brown, take some pressure off of him. But then now what Boston has to start doing, I believe like moving forward, they got to start doing a better job at developing that young talent. They let too many like young talents slip through the cracks and like kind of like trade them. Like you know, you had uh N Smith down there on on on the end of the bench, you know, look what he turned out to be. You had uh man, what’s my guy down there in Portland? I think he going to be good. Dano Banton or or Delano. Yeah, he’s from Toronto. He he was in the Celtus camp the year uh developing. Yeah, but they but they you know now when you need them too much bread on the Yeah. Well, you need them now. You know, it’s like damn, they gone. Think about this too, P. If you got 10, 11 things that you got in the oven cooking and then you got them tatsums where you got to pop them right off. You know what I’m saying? Them big the muff, you know what I’m saying? But you got the muffins in there just left in there just overflowing papa. You know what I’m saying? So it’s kind of like bro if you got a oven of 15 you probably going to you know keep about four five you know but the rest of them you they in the bread basket. Some of them don’t even get eat you know it’s kind of like that bro Celtics they had the 28th pick in the first round Wednesday’s draft. They got a guy named Hugo Gonzalez from Real Madrid. Some draft experts saying that was one of the biggest steals in the first round. So a guy that played pro overseas is coming to the Celtics. You know what I would start valuing if I was a a GM now? You know, everybody always get enamored with the young talent, the long arm super athleticism and potential of something. Like if I’m a veteran team, I’m looking for guys like that can come in right away and play. So you back think about I’m think about the 80s and 90s uh before you came out to get like when like guys was coming in ready to play cuz they was juniors. I’m looking at juniors and seniors now. You know what I’m saying? These guys was ready to come in and give you like a 15 piece. No. Was ready to come in and be your three or your four. Yeah. Big dog. Right. That’s what I’m saying. I’m going start looking at guys that’s been in college for three, four years that’s already developed strong. And I know what they give me. Like, okay, I know he could he’s 3 and D right here. I know he could come in right now, next year. I’m going to start looking at those pieces cuz those guys get overlooked. So, you sound like college. So you so you want more prepared better players now. You don’t want to develop. And if you develop, you want I’mma put y’all in the oven. Then y’all develop and then I’m going. That’s what you want, right? Bro, you sound like college. College don’t want the freshman no more. They don’t want the freshman or the sophomore. Yeah. Hey, get you in here. Yeah. Now give me this. Give me this um give me this Jo player right here who be in Jo. I ain’t ain’t shaved his head. He in here in the thick. He going to play D. He He ready. He on the weights. I ain’t got to He He ain’t sensitive. I got I’m going start looking more. I’m going to start putting value on that cuz those guys don’t get value. Them guys can come in there right away and play a role. Play a role. Cuz I’m not looking for like everybody always looking for the next star when you already got the star. How many of those out there? It’s a million of them. Get the [ __ ] finished product in the oven just popped out like like look like it’s all about what you looking for. Like I’m looking for All right. He can’t shoot but he led the nation in rebounds, you know? I know that translates. Okay. So you fa plug it like that. Give me two rebounders, two playmakers. Oh, he the defensive player of the year. That always translate. You know what I’m saying? Defense and rebound in college translates to the league. So, you building your team like like a like a almost like a um like a uh what we call the superheroes. Uh e the Avengers. No. [ __ ] man. That’s a young [ __ ] What’s the [ __ ] we talk about? The uh the super Justice League. You building the Justice League. You won’t you have a certain specific skill set. Yeah. Real [ __ ] I need I need rebounder. Come on. Get in here. I need two defenders. Come on here. I need shooting. Come on. I already got established stars. I’m not looking like for the next star cuz it gets too repetitive cuz then they don’t develop. Like when you look over there like Houston, think about this. You had Jaylen Green, Jabari Jr., you had Aman Thompson. You trying to get the next star over there. Like let me All right. Now that I I established that, let me All right. You know what? Houston. Yeah. Yeah, they still they kept drafting and then you got rid of Green now. And then now you’re trying to figure out Jabari Jr. like you know what I’m saying? Instead of like, oh, I need to I have to fill this. I got these guys now. Let me fill this need. Like and then when they don’t pan out, you roll over to the next year. So, I’mma go and find some I’mma focus late in the draft like in the 20s and second round. Now, with 150 [ __ ] putting their name in, it ain’t even abundance no more. You got to go to Man, I’m looking at this kid over here in Australia. He got a 40 inch vert. Yeah, but he can’t catch. He can’t catch. But he blocked hell shot. So he blocked hell shots. He can’t catch the ball. He’s 26. Oh, he tripped over. He’s 26. Oh, he entire shoe. D Payton Pritchard is a guy that played four years in college and and came to the Celtics and played right away. That’s That’s about to say, but that’s what I’m abominable snowman or some [ __ ] No, that ain’t rare cuz think about it. You always name 10 of them. You can’t. That’s No, because I’m not looking. So, look at whoever led the nation and scoring. You got Hey, listen. I’m not looking. If you let him, he will go autobond on you. Yeah. Get on here and start just mashing the gas, man. You got to put some speed bumps in here somewhere to Whoa, whoa, whoa. I don’t know. Whoa, whoa. But that’ll be my focus, you know? I’ll be like, but I’m saying P, it ain’t a lot of those out there. It ain’t a lot of pieces right now you can go and get fouryear maturity. Guess who you can get them from? Free agency. Free agency is the new fouryear, threeyear player. Everybody either going G-League coming out, right? Okay. Two years, one year, right? Then I watching NIL, [ __ ] all that up. [ __ ] I’mma get two, three in the league. [ __ ] I’m making five at school. I’m going back to school. So, man, I’m watching the whole trajectory of all of this changing. I’m still asking you. At one point, does college present an option that I can resign my players? That’s going to make better. You want to make college better? Resign your players. Keep them in the program. Trades. That’s coming. Trades. That’s trades. College. Trades. That’s going that’s going to wreck college. Well, NIL basically if you let me come out the portal and then I I ain’t going to play in bowl games and I got all this freedom to move and [ __ ] I should be as a coach allowed to if you want to. No, you can’t go to the portal. I got to seek out a trade. Like, no. That’s happened. That’s going to happen right now. I need to be able to replace that. in Kentucky announce bro. Yeah. Listen, that that that’s that’s coming. A trade. That’s coming, bro. That’s coming. Hey, you got you got a week to get your dorm together. I don’t even know how that work. How would you trade somebody in college? How do Because how do guys be like, I don’t want to play. I’m going to cut all that. Oh, but you can leave me at the end of the day and then go to Okay, cool. So, now I’m left with a rock. No, no, no, no, no. You can be traded. You can be traded. If you can if you don’t want to play bowl games, then I can trade you. I can trade you. Real [ __ ] man. Man, that’s going to come, man. That’s going to [ __ ] college up, boy. That’s going to be back on the video games if they do that for college sports.
Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce break down Boston’s bold decision to move on from Jrue Holiday and Kristaps Porziņģis. The Hall of Famers weigh in on what it means for the Celtics’ identity, championship window, and whether the new direction makes sense after winning it all. Plus, they talk draft, and what the Celtics’ selections mean going forward.
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47 Comments
This was 100% about money, boys
Holiday presence disappeared season end ..doesn't play with urgency anymore
I dont even care about next year …hopefully tatum will be 100 pct and glad they got under 2nd apron
Wish they made yall gms
Fresh out the oven, hee heee
Why bri g in scoring when that's not the issue. Holiday brings balance but jt and JB needs the ball plus you got white. They making moves not needed they go in up like the pistons team with chauncey
1:57 Don't know if Paul remembers, Neismith was traded for Malcolm Brogdon, who won 6th man of the year he was on the Celtics. Then The Celtics flipped him with Rob Williams for Jrue Holiday, so we might not have got Holiday without the Neismith trade!
Also, with Delano Banton, the Celtics had way too many guards. Smart, Pritchard, White then when they got rid of Smart for Porzingis, brought on Holiday Banton was never gonna crack that rotation. Especially with Pritchard becoming what he's becoming.
They didn’t need scoring because Payton is nice..honestly i wouldn’t of traded drew I would of traded white for a center or a pure point guard
Holiday leaving the C's is just about a bag and the apron
Guys, you can’t even look at any of this as actual trades… It was a money problem to be solved, nothing to do with talent in either direction. forced move by the CBA.
I’m with the Truth. They are just not looking for those mature pieces. That’s why we don’t see it.
i this Boston looked at 2 things, 1) money and 2) Holiday didn't do much in the playoffs this year.
How yall talk sports but don’t know what’s going on.
The producers are to blame also
Luka Garza
Nobody is saying this kid is a better player. It’s all about 💰
Yeah it’s hard to see Drew go but you know he’s getting older he’s not as quick covering the guys you know the athletic guys he’s not as quick laterally anymore so like you know keep him as a culture guy well yeah if Tatum didn’t get injured because now we definitely need a ball handling scorer like Simon says
I really have no opinion on the matter other than a couple years ago I was a Simon fan I’m not sure what he did last couple years also I have no opinion but if you go to Gonzales looks good OK Amari Williams looks good and Josh Miniott looks good all looks good in the highlights that’s my opinion but I really truly have no opinion until I see them play a few nba games.
Holiday was also the 5th option. They were not asking him to score much. He didn't take a lot of attempts. They asked for defense and leadership.
It was all a money move. Not that the Celtics didn’t want him… they couldn’t afford him.
Why are these clowns and everyone else unaware that the bucks got bounced with jrue in the first round when jrue couldn’t guard anyone 😂 that false narrative the bucks weren’t floundering until the trade is nonsense
CELTICS
SPENT WAY TOO MUCH MONEY ON BROWN AND TATUM
KG Baby. All the love U 2 Truth. Lol. Go Celtics 🍀🍀🍀🍀
what about the G league? C's got the g league MVP! And they've been growing talent down there for years (like Hauser and Kornet)
The Jru trade is just about sustainability, nothing else. Nobody would ever think Celtics got better by trading Jru, everybody would love to keep Jru and probably give KP another chance. They just have to. Can't stay above 2nd apron if you are not competing for a year.
I like these two guys they talk sense not like other shows
Without Holiday we have no banner 18
Sorry, but Sam Hauser has to go; he's way too INCONSISTENT!
Celtics get rid of 2-3 starters in holiday, porzingas, plus kornet and probably a few others. Who knows what's gonna happen with horford either way he was spent last year and being a year older it's only heading south but when the Celtics win 40-45 games next year it'll all be jaylens fault. I can hear it now "jaylens overpaid, trade jaylen, he can't lead a team, hes not a #1 , blah blah blah" if nothing else mazzula will get exposed now that he doesn't have a championship roster .
Who is the young talent that slipped through? Nesmith is it, jb,jt, pp are home grown.
I love how Pierce is talking about picking college graduates and juniors on his team with KG sitting right next to him. 😜
I love these guys, but what is PP talking about they should go after vet players instead when they drafted a dude playing with adults in the Euro league?
They producer need to slow down 😅Lord
as a diehard celtic fan, this off seasons been a living nightmare.
Facts on both teams giving up Jrue!!!!
Give Jaylen Brown two athletic bigs that can rebound and defend and three 3 and D big guards… Cs will be in the eastern conference finals. Brown is underrated 💪🏾
Holidays old he's not the old holiday
Jrue Holiday needs to be given alot of credit for championship in 2024. He can score if the team needs it. He brought defense and locker room maturity because that’s what team needed. Holiday was unselfish. Just a special player. Probably the mvp of that championship team.
That’s why Brad grabbed Luka in free agency
Guys. You’re acting like Brad had a choice. They literally had to because of the second apron
I love you, Paul, but you need to do your research. Nemith was traded for Malcolm Brogdon, who was six man of the year and then he was traded for jru holiday. Pretty sure the Celtics won the nesmith trade
The trades made this year were strictly for money…..there’s absolutely no need to look at these trades and break them down in terms of basketball
No lies told by Truth! Look at Kawhi Leonard as that example of a great rebounder and defensive player in college that translated into an offensive force in the NBA. Development matters and is missing for younger players in today's game
That was a horrible decision trading jru, this team just won the championship last year. Why are they trading the key players of the championship team.
Love this show. They seem so chill
Bro name me five players we traded that are champs lol you sacrificed a good player for a great player we had to give up 2 first round picks for holiday brad is doing the best can but he's picking in the 25s 26 pick overalls not so easy to locate talent in those spots but baylor is gonna be good and jd davison when he gets pt this year pierce don't understand that jrue wasn't 100 percent that's why he got traded he has something hampering him which came up in the physical they gave jrue which is why we no longer get the 2 2nd round picks I'm going to need pierce to do more research it's nonsense to think jrue just gonna keep being a menace when he was barely on the court as it is last year simmons almost played every game last year and we could've used simmons scoring more than jrues Intangibles little things do win games but scoring can win yiu games as well simmons just needs to know he won't play much here if he doesn't buy in defensively.
Holiday had to go; unless you make him a backup. He's done as an effective starter. He's not the defender he once was, and certainly not the scorer. Porzingis is an injury or weird 'illness' waiting to happen. Personally, I wish they'd traded Brown years ago.
So Lillard is just one-dimensional? All he does is score?