Wemby & The Spurs’ Young Core Should TERRIFY The NBA
What are your impressions of Dylan Harper in his first NBA summer league action? Man, that boy poised. He you can tell he come from an NBA background. Boy, just look natural and he look like he take his time out there. He’s not rushing. Seemed to do all the little things, too. I think that’s something that the Spurs like when you play both ends. And he just look like he he’s smart out there and know the game. And there’s been talk too. I think Wimby recently had some comments basically saying asked him if he thinks the Spurs should try to trade some of these guys for a superstar. He said no ride with these young guys. Let’s really build some here. Seems like you’re really in the process of doing that. Stefon Castle obviously hard for Carter Bryant who we’ll talk about in a second, but it seems like the Spurs are building a really strong young core. Like I I mean Spurs I mean just watching him play the mannerisms, the style, the speed, the poise, the passing ability. You got him and Castle’s about what 652 himself. So you got your back court sitting around 65 66. Both actually are athletic. So you got your one and your two both 66 and both got sneaky jumping. Yeah. Bounce, sneaky height. Me right now as a general manager and I’m watching him play and watching how he’s moving. I don’t know what I want to do with Fox because having him at the one, two, three doesn’t even make sense to me anymore. Him coming off the bench doesn’t even make sense to me anymore. If I want this to be a championship team, I need him and Castle to start playing today. I don’t need no waiting period. I need them to get all of the minutes and learn how to just be efficient. Now with Wendy, now you have Carter Bryant that looks like he’s going to be a defense. He look like he’s damn near He look like he’s a man already. We’re going to talk about that. You know what I mean? He’s 16. He is 16. That’s what I’m saying. He’s 67 with a shoe. 67 without his sho. So now you have that at your three. So instead of going guard, guard guard, now you got your guard guard. both athletic and you’re small forward. Athletic as [ __ ] then you got a power forward and your center. You’re talking about a whole different team. Are you taking are you waiting for that process though? That’s the problem. I don’t want to What I’m saying is I don’t want to wait. I’m I’m going to use this year cuz but Wimby it’s going to be they going to be getting their ass whooped. But if Wimby plays 65 70 games, right? Bounces back from the defense on which he’s been cleared to return to the court earlier than expected. I think it was supposed to be September. got cleared who recently to get back to the court. Yeah. No, but I need to I bad. All right. As somebody that been in a sim similar situation, what would you tell Fox then? Like cuz he’s a allstar. Obviously Fox. Where do you want to No, what I’m saying is Fox is obviously better. Fox is better. Fox like No, but that’s what I’m saying. Fox is better right now. But you give him a year to maybe learn underneath him, right? And then I don’t want to. You don’t think you don’t think that’s a good move? No, he want to go now because Fox is an allstar. He’s an allNBA player. He is going to let him go. He’s a top top seven, top 10 guard. But I I have I have my future here and we’re not good enough right now for Fox to be playing 38 minutes and him playing like 10. I don’t need that. So, if I think these two 66 dudes that can jump out the gym is my future, I need to I need to fast forward them now. Just throw them into the fire. Why did you get him? Yeah. Who? Fox. Well, this before you got the Before I got the number, you know what I mean? But Fox is still leverage for them though to get It’s no different. It’s no different pieces though. It’s no different than than the Lakers with with with Cole. He is. But I got Eddie Jones. Cool. And then you sitting there watching practice like I got a young Kobe. [ __ ] He do the same thing cuz Eddie Jones was a Eddie Jones was a allar and it was like Yeah. All right. You know what? Ah, we just we’re just going to move on now. We don’t need you to fight no minutes. We’re just going to give him the minutes. Could have been a good threeman. Who? Eddie Jones. But like, but that’s athletic. But that’s what I’m saying. At the at the point they’re just like it’s so close. I’m like, yeah, Eddie just, you know what? Let me just go move you somewhere else so you can play your minutes and then let Cole. So, but you don’t think it’d be good for for a guy like Dylan Harper to learn under Darren Fox for a season. Have Yeah. less stress, less strain coming into his rookie year. Learn from an allNBA level guard. That’s the value of Fox too though. He’s going to still play Harper a lot of minutes and it’s going to be up and down for Fox through his confidence and knowing that he’s about to be replaced anyway. Like I’m grooming I’m grooming that I’m I’m only [ __ ] 20some. Yeah, that’s not good for somebody confidence, bro. If you going to do that, like I’m not saying I want to like I don’t want to get rid of Fox because I know what type of player he is. But I’m looking at these 266 jumping one. They both play a one two and then I got I got Carter Bryant showing like damn you you are like a amen out here, right? You are one your defense is already elite. Yeah, for sure. Your offense is going to kick in at some point, but the you three athletic guys with Wimby and our four, you guys grow three, four years together, we can be dangerous. You got nothing for cheap for a couple and that’s what I’m saying. And you’re cheap, your money cheap. If you have one of these OKC years where y’all both jump out the window fast, I’m I’m I’m good with that. Is the most disrespected and the Spurs have a like allar in the NBA. It’s just one of those it’s just one of those situations where him and Donovan mention I think the Spurs in a good situation. I mean they got good problems to have as they have leverage with Fox but they also known for like developing players if you’re Fox Tony Parkery like the Spurs. That’s what I’m saying like but even with even with Tony Parker they’re looking at him like okay you’re going to start off day one. That’s what I’m saying. You should have traded Fox to Boston and [ __ ] for Bzinski and Drew Holiday. I mean, you don’t but you don’t know it until you But what I’m saying is you learn from Holiday. No, what I’m saying is you don’t know it until you see him like that. That’s I said just just the just the little 20 minutes that you’re seeing. I’m like I I like the I like I like the attributes and I don’t know and I don’t know if I want to play all three of them while like Carter’s coming off the bench. Like I want them to I want them to learn today. Okay. See that’s why summer league is important though just like you said you can see attributes before. Yeah I can see that. So like that’s why it’s like you know you can see a little something like I mean it isn’t so much even guy goes out there makes miss the shots the type of shots he’s taking and you got to know all right down the line he might miss these shots in summer league. These are good shots he’s going to make them in the league. It’s just his play like Cooper Flax play like I know you’re not going to trade Fox like you’re not going to trade Fox. You got to right. No, we you’re gonna you’re gonna play Fox and then try to figure out how to play this fourman rotation and then a year from now then you’re gonna realize I need to trade Fox. A duh. Well, that’s what I’m saying. I’m just fast forwarding this [ __ ] a year from now coming to the same conclusion. But sometimes, you know, it’s going to be the No, it’s going to be the same conclusion. You’re going to have Dylan sitting there doing his thing and you’re going to be sitting like, “Okay.” Then you have Carter Bryant coming off the bench sitting there picking up that pace. And then you’re going to realize these three together is packing a bigger punch, especially defensively back defensively. You’re not going to be able to post this group up. Think about it. Think about the guards that you’re not going to be able like Shay’s not going to be he’s just not going to have an easy way posting these strong ass guards up. Fox get to the basket. Spurs going to finally be fun. Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. Bryant. Carter Bryant. He’s going to guard one through four. He’s going to guard one through four. They always been the most boringest team, but with these young guys and how athletic. So, you’re going to come to that conclusion. Crafty. The also grabbed Luke Cornette from the Celtics this off season. I’m saying they got some they got some bigs that can play in in a support role. But I think Wimby obviously trying to make the playoffs now. I’m just saying it sounds like a bad take. It sounds like a bad take because you can’t see it. uh next summer or the year after. Watch what the starting lineup is. Where can you where can you see Fox? What should the starting lineup is? It’s gonna be two guarding Fox right now. That should have been hard. Fox Brown this year and white that have been cold. Fox. Yeah. Where can he go now? I know you can’t trade him to Boston no more. So where could he go? Wizards. N you said where? just trade the number two of the Oh, send him to Houston. Houston will take him. Phoenix. Now, if Houston get him, that’s a different story. I know. Now, Houston, if Houston get him, it’s over. Yeah. I’ll do that for Van Free, huh? For Van. Yeah. If Bugs get him like he bugs. Oh [ __ ] If Bugs get him. Come on. Another What? We got now you got two fast mother downhill. I know that’s Come on. Go Anthony. You doing what the Spurs thought they was going to do. If you got if you got if you got Denver and Denver wants to finally realize that you might want to upgrade just a little bit. Denver not bad. Like I know I know I know Murray is more equipped but one is a speed demon and those pick and rolls become a different coverage because he can come down heel fast. So all that drop covered [ __ ] looks a little different on popouts. Like with Murray you can like you know he’s slow. When Fox comes off of it you have to drop drop but now that’s an easier pass. I was about to say Dallas but I forgot about they got they got forgot about. So you talking about right now they don’t though. I’m saying we’re gonna talk about that in a moment. Let’s talk. I said Boston talking about Dame. It might be they could probably get for a little a little bit. Yeah, they could get D for right now. But [ __ ] But you mentioned Carter Bryant. So let’s show some love to the 14th overall pick who’s already showing that he’s a defensive demon. Let’s take a look at some Carter Bryant highlights. Bryant pass with Guard Cooper flag in their meeting Saturday. This is what changes that lineup. So Carter Bryant in this summer league, but he locked up the number one pick. That’s what I’m saying. Damn. Flag was three of 12 from the field, two turnovers of Bryant as his primary defender. Uh and the Spurs showed they were locked in as a defensive unit on another possession with Harper and Bryant leading the charge, forcing a 24-second violation. Let’s take a look at this defense right here. You see what I’m saying? Like getting after it. Yeah, this the one right here. Oh, no. No. Show the blocks he had. No, but I was just saying look at it. But just look at how it looks. Look at the rotations. And the thing is with him being in there, it’s going to be so long. Now, now what I’m saying is if you are planning on putting Fox, Dylan, and Western at three, you’re sitting there with Carter Bryant him. How long before you say, “Fuck.” Okay, let me just put him in Atlanta. That’s what I’m saying. How long before you say, “Okay, I got They’re long. Yeah, he got to start.” You know what I’m saying? So now you got Damn. He for sure could be a three and D, huh? At the four. That’s the dude with the blind here, man. Get that [ __ ] out of He’s at the four. He can come off to the at the one. He come off the bench, right? For sure. You can bring him off the bench. Said it’s He don’t like the pass. Get him across. What bets they have? They have Harrison Barnes still. Yeah. Listen, I listen man. If they You know what’s so funny? I mean, I got them making the playoffs next year at the Spark. Yeah. What? Wait, wait, wait. No, no. I mean, I mean, I think they get in. Who? If they make a trade, this all depends. If if if Wimy’s healthy, I think the Spurs get in next year if they make a trade. Or would Fox, you know what? You know what they are, Dave? You know what Houston did that? But they’re nice, but will it fit? Do it match who that team. Listen, the I trust the Spurs because they have a system and they and they and they have so they have their they have their guy. They have their Wim pop gone. Yeah, I mean the first system just I mean that it’s the same. It’s going to still be the same system. I just think they have their Wimby and now they’re just going to build around it. And I think the guys that they have and as they should, it’s just like, you know, I trust the Spurs in this situation. So, as I mentioned, Wimi fully cleared uh to come back to the court earlier than expected while recovering from that deep vein thrombosis in his shoulder. Yeah, I remember um what was the year John Wall John Wall went to Houston? Yeah. Yeah. I remember he averaged Here it is. He averaged 20 and seven. They got rid of Houston. Think about what I’m saying. He averaged 20 and seven. They got rid of him. And then the next year they told him, “Don’t show up because they said you’re good enough to win games we don’t want to win.” and at your position, we want we want these guys to actually play so we can see who they’re going to be. So they told a guy who averaged 20 and seven to just stay home cuz we don’t like we don’t want to win. We don’t want to win, but more than that said, more than that, we want we want the guy that’s behind you who is our future to get them reps in. Who was that? And it it it played out in the way it was supposed to. obviously rocking second in the West season. But it’s just crazy to me to think, oh man, you might you might impact winning too much. Go ahead. We just pay you the spread. [ __ ] You might have these dudes thinking they could do it like we good. That’s [ __ ] up though. But that’s how that’s how the John Wal. Wow. So So back to Wimby Wimby fully cleared. How far away realistically do you think the Spurs are for being a championship level roster? I think playoffs right now and this season is a good target to have. But if this young crew develops the way they’re hoping they can and Wimby comes back and plays at the level we know he can play at, I’m going say three years. Three, four years. So within three years, three years. Yeah. I mean, I like the Spurs system, so I know once they get them guys locked in, they young right now, but yeah, I’ll give them I mean, cuz it’s going, you know, the Spurs like to bring guys in. Yeah. But playoffs for sure though. I got to make it the playoffs for sure this year. Hey, Wendy’s Day. Legit playoffs or playing top six or they going to have to fight for it? Probably playing get it. Okay. Well, [ __ ] What did it make in the playoffs? You could use Harper like seven or eight like James Harden. But OKC’s main guy is 26. I know, but I’m saying they OKC had like a rust that’s like Fox similar to and they got Wimby like a KD and they bring James off the bench. So Har could be James J. Okay. So they could do it. You can figure it out. All right. So what? Four. Four seasons ago. That’ll be Wim six season. Mhm. Four or five. If Wim be healthy year three, four or five. We feel like he’s competing for defensive player of the year. He’s going to be defensive player of the year. But offense that the team just ain’t old enough yet for them. Like he been training with Shaolin Monks. He breaking boards with his mom. He But they still need reps themselves. Three years. Okay. Three. Three years. Three years. Wouldn’t be in three years would be like Shaq when Jordan retired. Trying to be the new Kareem. You know, Kareem used to do karate and [ __ ] Yeah. You fought Bruce Lee. Yeah. It’ be like when Jordan retired and then Lakers is favorite because they’re they had Shaq like but people don’t understand that part. Like Bulls was when Shaq got to LA it was Bulls. It was Michael Jordan. the day he retired, Lakers was favored or um Shaq was favored to win the championship. They won, they had a lockout and that’s how Spurs got it because [ __ ] wasn’t healthy. Then that’s when Lakers started dominating. Um, in three years I think Wimby himself will be dominant enough to control a game by himself offensively and defensively cuz defense I mean and then from there it’s with the guys that he got you got a Carter Bryant with you. You got the now you’re talking about like you’re talking damn near like Detroit when Ree Wallace got there. Now you’re really talking about holding people to that 90 100 points just off defense and then you can find a way to score. Yeah. Oh, Portland and Pippen got Yeah, that’s you can find a way to score. But I didn’t remember them [ __ ] What? It was good. They added Pip and then don’t let them get a [ __ ] some another goddamn hybrid that can goddamn play defense, too. I think they will. Well, they going to pick up like that and and then just and then just say we’re going to lock everybody defensively. pick up like that on a real NBA player though. Who? Dylan Harper. Can’t try to do that [ __ ] 94 ft on um 94 I mean 94 ft on Brunson. Can’t do that on Brunson. Yeah, he can do that on Brunson cuz Brunson don’t have foot speed and Brunson’s not trying to Brunson. Only people that are hurt Dylan is still momentum towards you though. Fox uh Fox will kill him trying that [ __ ] Um, Hi would [ __ ] him up trying that [ __ ] Um, even trying that on Garland. Yeah, Lonzo Ball’s going to speed past you. I’m good. You know, those same, you know, there’s only there’s only a handful, six, seven, that’s just going to speed past you. Other than that, I mean, most of the guys, you like Kade is going he going he going to mosey on down the lane and then that’s what I’m saying. like so he’ll be fine picking up use. Yeah, you know, let me just pick it up. Turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn turn Kate is what 66 do all that hard [ __ ] blow right by him but there’s only there’s not a lot of guys just gonna blow by you say [ __ ] this offense that’s what I’m saying all right well let’s keep this thing moving today’s podcast is sponsored by Ro
Wemby & The Spurs’ Young Core Should TERRIFY The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil’s Arena Crew react to Dylan Harper & Carter Bryant tearing up NBA Summer League and already showing off the San Antonio Spurs’ bright future. They break down how these players alongside Victor Wembanyama and Stephon Castle could set the Spurs up with a NBA Playoff roster this season and debate where De’Aaron Fox fit into the team’s longterm plans with highly drafted rookie vying for his spot.
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Why does Gilbert make things so difficult just put Ron Harper as the shooting guard and Fox as the point guard, you sound like a fox hater. 🤔
I just wanna play Halo 2 bro !
Was Devin vessell even mentioned? There is no way yall would rather keep him over fox.
If I'm the Spurs I keep fox and start him at PG…Fox, Castle, Barnes Sochan and Wemby or wemby Kornet… should be the starters…gotta bring harper and vassell off the bench, but that's not a bad thing…
Whyd the spurs get Kornet and Olynyk??? weird…unless the make Wemby the 4????
as a spurs fan carter bryant isn’t staring and we’re not trading fox rn
If Dame and Giannis didn't work, how well will Fox and Giannis work?
Why in a hell do you have Sheryl there ?!?! She is nothing but hatred in her ass !!! Listening to her talk sounds like she doesn’t even know what she’s saying!!! No one wants to see her ass on your show ! Come on guys why hurt your show that way !!!
trade d fox ahh, i disappointed how he still not able to shoot and defend consistently. plus he small, pause
BS argument, will gonna let a All Star go for development, Are you crazy? It's a rotational matter, not a roster matter, just play the 3, you have to 2 positions 48 minutes each, so 96 minutes to fullfill with 3 players, divide like this, Fox play 36 minutes, Castle 32 minutes, and Harper 28 minutes… Everybody wins…
Spurs in 6 this season
Have these dudes forgotten how lethal Fox is ? …Fox is a proven 25+ pt scorer in this league as a lead guard…DO YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO FIND A PROVEN PLAYER OF FOX'S CALIBER ?🤔 …GIL SAYS SOME REALLY DUMB SHIT AT TIMES…THE SPURS ARE TRYING TO WIN NOW JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER QUALITY ORGANIZATION.
Swoops says some dumb shit most of the time.
They have no clue what the Spurs want to do!😂
I agree. Gotta move Fox. Them young niggas need to play now
Okc did it with a young core why can't san Antonio can't do it ??
Fox isn’t going anywhere. He’s a really good basketball player and this is probably the best team he’s been on. Fox produces at a high clip, Harper is no world is better than Fox currently. They can have a 3 guard rotation for now.
I'm with Gil man . Trade Fox because he and Harper damn near same player
Spurs swept the Lakers in the lockout season playoffs. In the second round, Lakers were there, in the playoffs, they were swept. If ppl wanna point at the Knicks being such a low seed and that maybe hurting that Spurs championship, at least that’s understandable. But even that being the case, they still beat everybody in the east and multiple teams who were better than them. It’s just not correct to credit the lockout for that years finals. You can give the Lakers some crap for the bubble year, but only bc they didn’t play in front of crowds which literally is a change from the game. But even that championship was still won, they had to win it, and they did. Anyway, go Spurs go!
The Eddie jones and Kobe thing definitely relates to Fox and Harper
Trading Fox to the Bucks or Rockets. Lol They dont have anyone we'd even want. Especially the Bucks. Rockets dont either.
Spurs will over achieve and eventually get their hearts broken in a classic 7 game series with the rockets.
Ok you trade fox who the pg? gon be the same situation like the suns sg’s,sf’s and centers…so in love with position-less ts don’t work in the finals
This why none of these dudes are GMS in the NBA
terrify? lmao
The bucks should be on the phone with the spurs ASAP
For being ex nba players they say a lot of stupid shit. Sign Fox to 4 years, Harper will learn and grow behind him. Then hand Harper the starting spot IF he becomes the player ppl think he is. If not Spurs still got Fox
No need to trade anybody else right now ..
Nick always sound like he need to hog spit
Spurs' starting line-up for the season: Harper, Castle, Vassell, Wemby, LeBron.
Fox goes to L.A. on an extend-and-trade for Lebron and has a winning career with Luka, possibly ideal running mates. LeBron plays point-centre-coach, fitting in where he's needed and averaging 25, 8, and 9. Wemby averages 26, 14, and 5 and wins DPoY. They win 63 games. At the last game of the season Popovich returns to be head coach for a single game, and after the win Lebron announces that it is his final season. Ratings go through the roof and Spurs playoff ticket prices skyrocket. The Lebron Spurs jersey quickly becomes the best-selling jersey in sports history. They win a championship together, and Lebron's won one more ring without anyone feeling like he's a ring-chaser. Chris Paul misses out. The young Spurs have every morsel of playoff experience they'd need to continue as championship contenders without Lebron. Wemby wins MVP the following season, after Jokic wins it this season, and the NBA continues what will be a 20 year streak without an American MVP.