Kings GM Scott Perry on His Journey, Building a Roster & Message to Fans | Deuce & Mo

Kings GM Scott Perry on His Journey, Building a Roster & Message to Fans | Deuce & Mo

special edition of the Ducim Mo podcast from Las Vegas, Nevada. Do some mo with Kings GM Scott Perry. Scott, thanks for making time, man. Thanks for having me. This is this is an honor to be on with you guys. You know, I enjoy watching your podcast a lot. So, to be on. Wow. Was it good? Sorry we didn’t get you in the room. I know this this room’s a little bit bigger, but Okay. Well, reserve a date for me in the room one time. Okay. All right. Uh, how long is too long for you in Vegas? I feel like three day like three days in Vegas for summer league is probably probably yesterday. Exactly. We were we were talking about this uh just how much it’s changed since we started coming here just like do you remember the early days of summer league and I like there’s probably like 10 people in the building. Well, I’m going to even go back before summer league because I was a college coach as you know, started back in 1988 and every summer you would come here for the AAOU tournaments and they were all over the city of Las Vegas through you know a number of different high schools. So you would spend here a week. It was a big part of what you did recruiting players. So I was prepared for Vegas summer league when it came around cuz I was here all the time. But yeah, this has really grown. I mean, especially the size of the crowds. I mean, now, especially when you go into the Thomas and Mack, it’s almost always packed. And I can remember a time when it first started, you know, there might have been a couple thousand people in there just like see I guess even with the crowds and stuff, but on the floor like has it been different, more competitive or just a different pace or is it always just these players playing so hard because they know so many people, so many eyes are on them at this one spot in Vegas? You’ve always had the intense competition because of what you just brought up. Yeah. uh mo because guys are playing for their livelihood. The rookies who were drafted by their teams who may have guaranteed contracts, they’re proving themselves, trying to show that they were worthy to pick and trying to figure out how they’re going to get their way onto the court in the fall for the their teams. But um the crowds I think have enhanced the competition more. You know, guys starting to play in front of 10,000 people now in a summer league game. the juices are going to be flowing a little bit different. Um, let’s go back a little bit. What made little Scott Perry fall in love with the game of basketball? Like would you do you have a first memory? I have an older brother. Okay. His name is LOL who’s uh seven and a half years older than me and he played all the sports just like that. He played basketball, football, uh baseball and uh and he ran track as well. So I was always the little brother that tagged along there sometime, you know, like, okay, not old enough to play right away, all that. And so I developed that kind of complex that, oh no, I want to play with the big boys one day. So that’s my earliest memories of just really want to get into competition in general, but basketball obviously growing up in Detroit was a big deal. And so uh I really fell in love playing it with playing it at a place called St. Cecilius. Y that’s um that is the proving ground for all basketball players in the state of Michigan. One of the top ones in the country, especially the time I was coming up, you know, a lot of great players came through there from George Gervin to Magic Johnson, all the pro guys would play there, Isaiah Thomas’ and Joe Dum Mars and just so many great pros uh throughout Chris Weber from the uh Sacramento Kings grew up playing there. So, uh, great place to play. The the the beauty of it was on on one side of the floor, the wall is out of bounds. Wait, wait. Okay. Oh, the wall. Yeah. So, on So, you the Yeah. Right. Exactly. The wall is a is a concrete wall that’s out of b on one side. This is where you learn to play. And on the other side, there were these big poles. Okay. Not much space. And then underneath each basket, you had had one or two steps before you either ran into a wall or a set of bleachers in the back. So you really had to learn how to play fast, but then to be able to put on the brakes. Yeah. When when needed, you learned how to handle the ball a lot. So so many great memories playing at that place and learned so many lessons, valuable lessons, not only in the game, but in life there, too. like valuable lessons like basically um how to not run into a pole if you’re saying like or just don’t be sloppy with it because otherwise hey you might hit a wall or whatever you you say that in in Detroit all like you had to prove yourself out there. What what was it about that style I guess that intrigued you? Like how did that style of basketball shape you for how you look at basketball now? Just the comp competitive nature. I mean, it was always kind of in your face. Uh, very defensive, very physical. Yes. And so, if you couldn’t play in that style, you weren’t going to be able to play. You weren’t going to get on the court. So, that just at a young age gets ingrained in you playing in environments like that. And so, I just carried it on throughout my adult life. Were you a big talker on the floor? Like trash talker? I wasn’t a big talker. No, I was not a big talker, but I played with and against a lot of talkers and guys can can rouse you up a little bit, you know. So, every now and then you might be able to find a clip that I maybe started to talk just a touch, but not much though. What was what was the best thing that you would do out there on the floor? Like what would you say like was something that you brought that other people didn’t? as a young player and and uh BJ Armstrong, my assistant Jim would tell you this. As a younger player, I enjoy shooting deep and that was you. We didn’t have a three-point line when I was coming. Wow. Wow. Exactly. Exactly. Huh. It It wasn’t an efficient shot at the time, but I I I enjoyed shooting the deep shot uh when I was a younger player. And then, but I I really started embracing defense and passing the ball as I got older, especially as started playing with guys who were better. You got to figure out where you can really fit in and but but uh shooting in the in the beginning was probably my favorite part. So, of course, you played, then you coached in the college ranks. What point do you go, I want to transition to working in an NBA front office? I’m going to share a funny story with you and it’s very true. So, I’m Wayne State University. My last year, we’re preparing to go into the Elite 8 of the Division 2 national tournament. I was the captain of the team, point guard of the team, and we were shooting free throws at the end of practice and my head coach at the time, uh, Charlie Parker, he says, he said, “Scott, have you ever considered coaching before?” Anyways, first he asked me was I was considering going to like play, you know, try out in CBA or overseas or anything like that. And I said probably not that I was going to just focus on, you know, getting out into the work world. So he said, well, what are you going to do if you don’t you’re not going to coach? And I said, well, I said, I want to utilize my business background. I was a business major in college and my passion for sports. And I said, I want to become a general manager of a professional sports team. I was 22 years old. How old? Wow. I was 22 years old when I said that. So, uh, he looked and he thought like, “Okay.” And so, when I got out of school, I sent my resume to every NFL and every NBA team cuz I was a big football fan, too. And you, you know, you guys, I’m sure, got the letters when you were applying for jobs coming out kind of thanks but no thanks, or we’ll keep it on file, all of that. And so, actually, I went into private bank and uh, retail banking. Uh, I was assistant branch manager at which is now Chase Bank. Oh. Uh, uh, when I graduated from from Wayne State my first two years. Wow. Wow. And I was coaching though at night. I was coaching basketball at night at a high school uh, suburban high school in Detroit. So, the grind. He had basketball still, but then getting a little bit of the business side. Yeah. So, I guess I I think something that we’ve noticed, I think everyone notices in the NBA with you, they identify you as like a relationship guy and your ability to connect with people around the league, whether it’s other GMs or players or whatever. But I I guess when I I see that such a huge skill set for anyone to have in any job position, but especially as a GM. Um, what what is it with the way you’re able to connect with people? Like, how do you go about that? That probably goes back to my early years, back high school years really. My house became like the gathering spot for all the fellas and the friends to come over and just that happened naturally. I would, you know, great family, you know, we’d entertain, have people over. It was just natural for me to be in that space and build relationships. So, as I moved around town, everywhere I went, you know, I talked to people, got to know them, you know, made them feel comfortable and it just evolved and that’s just kind of who I am as a person. And you know, I enjoy that part. I enjoy meeting a lot of different people from different backgrounds. Uh, and so it has served me well in this sport for sure. And then when I got became a college coach, when you go out and recruit Mhm. So that’s when you know, so now you’re meeting so many families, players, coaches in and around the sport and then it just kind of grows from there. Well, okay. Cuz cuz I I we always talk about wanting to be like a fly on the wall in in so many of these like NBA conversations of just like how you even start as a GM talking to another GM about a trade, about a hey, let me talk about that guy. Is it is it through a text? Is it through a call? Does it depend on the person? Like are you wishing them a happy birthday first and then you go? Like how do you go about that? Well, before I became a GM and first started in the league in 2000, wasn’t as many texts. I think Blackberries were kind of in vogue back then. Exactly. When I first retro Yeah, exact. But um it all just depends on how well you know the person. I’m I utilize text because I know that’s today’s email mode of yeah today’s mode of uh communication somewhat especially amongst the younger generation. But for me I don’t like putting a lot in there. I’d rather have a conversation back and forth because so much can get misconstrued with these oneline text. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So, uh, you know, you may get from me, hey, are you free to talk or something like that, that kind of thing to now, we’ll get together and we start having a conversation. And, you know, a number of these guys I have long-standing relationships with, and we may catch up about a variety of things before we get into talking shop about teams and all. What’s it like like negotiating and closing a deal? Not necessarily trade, signing, whatever. Is it like exhilarating for you? Is there like nervousness or like how do you feel in those moments where it’s like all right we’re trying to get this done? Like what’s that like? It’s a great question because it’s really a long process cuz it’s very rare that you can get on the phone, talk to somebody, and in that initial conversation you have a deal. That that’s like an anomaly for something like that to happen. So you I just set myself kind of to play the long game, if you will. Uh, and everybody’s style is a little bit different. I’m probably more direct than a lot of people. I don’t really like wasting time and beating around the bush, but there’s a lot of that that happens because, you know, people want to make sure that they’re doing the right thing or they’re, okay, they talk to you and they have an idea about what they can do with you. So then, but then they want to go around the league and that’s fine. That’s part of the vetting process. I try to do more of that upfront if I can. I always try to put myself in the position of the other general manager and the team and try to look assess their needs as best I can. And again, I’m not in their building, so sometimes you could be a little bit off, but at least to start things off, you I want to have an ide, you know, at least an idea in my mind if I was sitting over there, maybe, you know, something that would interest me. And yeah, so I always wonder that because, you know, every time a trade happens or sign, everyone’s talking about who won the trade. I’m always wondering, it’s like sometimes it’s about just making a deal that’s good for both parties. You’re not necessarily trying to like one up the other team, right? Right. No, I’m I’m not trying to spike the football deal at the end of the day, like I said. So, to me, the best deals are because nobody’s going to get 100% of what they want when the deal, you know, that’s very rare that that happens. So, he’s here, I’m here. Let’s try to find that common ground somewhere in the middle that I can leave the deal feeling, you know, pretty good about. Maybe I didn’t get everything I wanted, but I got enough of the most important thing to me. And the same for him. Now once you leave, shake hands, and it’s over. Now we got to play basketball. Find out, you know, how it ends up. And that and then that’s when you end up on deuce and mo podcast. They’re saying, “What was Scott thinking about that deal?” Exactly. That trade. Exactly. What What’s your favorite part about being a GM? Like when you wake up in the morning, like what are you fired up? Like what what do you when you wake up in the morning? Yeah. You assumed I went to sleep, right? Exactly. Well, you’re like an early riser. I mean, it’s like a 4 a.m. type or I am since I’ve been in sack. I’ve been getting up at 4:30, 5:00. I get up and work out every morning. Alarm or no alarm? You just get up. Most of the time I’ve been getting up because I’ I’ve had a lot of nervous energy probably since I’ve been here on the job because it’s what happens is I’ll go to sleep for four or five hours and then if I have to if I wake up for a minute then my mind starts to race. Okay, what I have to do today? What you know what’s you know what’s on my plate. And so that doesn’t make for the best sleep habits. No. So what do what do you love about the job? Like what do you love about being an NBA GM? You know, I love working with people and I love really like putting together together our group like you know I think and I’m not just saying this because it’s in the now but the the group of people that we’re assembling in that building from uh support staff to front office executives to coaches everybody there I mean the the synergy and energy has been really great and I enjoy that part being able to come to work because that was my vision. And to to everyone when I came for those who have retained and kept was said, look, I want to have the best working environment where everybody enjoys coming to work, having fun. Look, these jobs aren’t easy, but let’s enjoy the journey along the way. You know, it’s too life’s too short. And I’ve been part of situations before where you can just your head is down and you and the stress and you don’t enjoy it. And so that’s the part I really enjoy now is just trying to really build that out, you know, and then on the team team building side of putting together a group of young men and watch them grow. Now obviously we’re just in the infancy straight stage right now. Uh but that’s going to be the fun part watch, you know, you draft a guy, you sign a guy in free agent, watch and see how they come in and fit and how they continue to grow. Shout out to our friends over at Cintibo Vineyards and Winery though. They stayed with us even during the off season because really there’s no offseason in basketball. You got draft free agency, you got trades, you got previews, the WNBA. Basketball does not stop and we don’t stop. And guess what? I’ve been drinking through all those things. I’ve been drinking Cintivo wine through all those things. And I was never a white wine kind of person. I love everything that they have to offer. It’s been so fun partnering with them, too. They’re all Kings fans. They’re a family-owned winery, and um they’re just really good people. And so, if you want to try some of those wines, as well, make sure you head over to cintivineyards.com. They have a new tasting room also that’s going to be open up in the Fairfield area. I cannot wait to go. I’m actually ordering more wine even today. Also presented by our friends over at Medic Ambulance. Woo! We are thrilled to team up with Medic Ambulance, the trusted name in emergency medical services across Northern California from life-saving responses to be in the team behind the scenes at your favorite events. Medic is there to serve. When seconds matter, trust the professional setting the standard inpatient care. Learn more at mediculance.net. You’ve been, I guess, in this position now for like 90 days. Almost. I looked it up. I think it was like 78. 78 days. Oh, 78. Okay. I’m not I’m not quite at my anniversary from the last visit. Plus, it’s a three month three month anniversary, right? That’s so true. So 78 days. We got 78. Exactly. Exactly. We got 78. Let’s keep going. No, I I mean I guess when you you look at these last almost 90 days. Um does it feel like 90 days? Like how does how is everything going? Does it feel like 10 years, 90 days? How’s it all going for you? Another good question. Um, I guess it feels about right at 90. I mean, it’s a lot of it’s gone fast. I think the first month just like shot by. Mhm. And because again, all the adjustments, moving parts. Um, and I took the time to meet with the entire building staff. Took me three weeks to meet with everybody that works there. I mean, no matter what your role or job, if you come in that Golden One Center, you got at least a half hour with me because I wanted to learn everybody’s story. Love that. And not, you know, and just to connect and and see and let them know my vision and see who who was willing to kind of move forward and maybe some weren’t embrac. And so, um, yeah. What do you say? You say you you don’t want hostages. You want volunteers. Yeah. I want volunteers, not hostages. Exactly. Exactly. Doug tried repeating that the other day. like you don’t want prisoners. Exactly. It’s not that aggressive, but yeah. Yeah. You you talk about like, you know, she was mentioning relationships earlier. You talking about meeting with people, but like when when you’re meeting with players, I was interested in this. It’s like, you know, last year didn’t go the way everyone wanted to obviously, and I’m sure there’s frustration from some of the players just, you know, they they’re competitive, they want to win. H how do you go about like navigating those conversations with them and like building that trust and you know getting to know them? Like how do you go about that? And you talk about favorite part of the job of being GM. It’s always been with me working with players and and building relationships with them and I’ve enjoyed that coming here. Obviously didn’t live the experience that they lived last year. However, just getting in and connecting with them and I always try to get not just players but people in general, you know, when you start thinking a lot of negative thoughts or thinking back in the past, what was so bad and all those kind of things, take a step back and appreciate what still was good, you know, what you know and what can you learn from that and how do we move forward because I don’t ever want players or people that work with me to be stuck in how things used to be or what they We’re here today. Let’s embrace today and then let’s get ready for tomorrow. We can’t live in in the back. But I love talking with these players. I’ve, you know, I’ve gotten on the plane. You talking about the first 90 days. Went down to visit Zack Lavine. Went down to visit Demar De Rozan. Spent a lot of time with Domas. Spent the time with Malik Monk. Uh Keegan Murray, all those guys, you know, Keon Ellis. So, I enjoy that getting to know them and I’m really looking forward to that once the season starts because you’re around them a lot more and and what they’re learning about me. My doors are always open. Yeah. Um, you know, the coaches are going to be responsible for coaching them and developing them and all those things, but I’m going to be there to support and they know for me already that I’m very straight and direct. And so, I’m going to call balls and strikes when I see it and and I’ll you can call them on me, too. So yeah, I think that’s that’s good to have too because, you know, I think trust means everything. You know, if you know, you’re talking to them about situations, they don’t feel like they completely trust you, that’s a difficult thing to to deal with. No, that that’s why I I’d rather always been, and this is how I’ve been even as a youngster, uh tell you the honest truth, even if may staying in the temporary, and I’d want the same too. The worst thing, and you you guys know this, is to be wondering what’s she thinking? What’s he thinking? What, you know, what’s going on? You know, instead of just saying, “Okay, here’s how I see it. I may be right, right or wrong, but this I’m giving you my honest perspective, a p perspective on what I see.” And that’s how I just operate in life in general. And I think it’s so critical with players. And I I bet if you talk to the players that were here last year that have had time to meet with me, they’ll pro they would say, “Oh, that’s the a big difference in Scott just as a person. He’s very straightforward. He’s very direct. We kind of getting to feel, you know, how he’s going to be, what he stands for.” Well, I I guess like constructive criticism is just so communication, constructive criticism, everything is just so very important in every aspect of life. But I especially see it like in this business, not only for players, but even for people in front office, for broadcasters, for everyone. Um, and so like when you have that communication, it only allows people to get better. Have you always been like that or do you think like over your years of communicating with different star players and different GMs and people that like you learned different things about how to communicate with people? I mean, the the base of me has always been the same. Now obviously when you start learning different personalities how you deliver the message it’s this is still going to be an honest message coming from me but it’s how you deliver it approach the approach the approach and how you you know set it up you know somebody you know somebody when they first walk in the door that person may be better you just hit them right away that somebody else coming in you might want to talk a little bit and then okay let’s get down to what we need to talk about. So yeah, you you learn that over time and uh I think as you get older um one of the things we used to tease about when we talked to a lot of older I had a lot of older mentors in my life starting with my dad who was fantastic and my role model played football right in the NFL. Yeah. Play played with the Steelers. Yeah. And so uh and he coached there too. Um but he and I I was a kid. sit around listen to him and all his old mentors and just how direct they were and just the older generation always seemed like they had less filter to what he was saying they were you know and so I was so now I’m you know as I’m getting a little bit older feels feels like I’m getting a little less filter I I I think that’s healthy though you know I think for anyone and especially because I think your approach you have this kind, empathetic, like human approach to things and that can go a long way. Um, I want to talk more about your vision for what you want for this team, especially in today’s NBA. When you look at today’s NBA, like what do you envision here in Sacramento? You know, I think it’s a great opportunity to like to really build a team. You hear me talk about those six values all the time. competitive, tough, team oriented, disciplined, accountable, professional, and in a market like Sacramento where you’re the only professional team in town essentially. I know the A’s are there uh in the in the short run, but I think it’s a great opportunity to build a team that’s that’s reflective of the community, that’s together, that’s that’s perseverant, uh that displays the toughness, but displays that camaraderie, that togetherness. That’s what I you know, and again, I I I give Oklahoma City a tremendous amount of credit this year as Indiana. Those were the two organizations to me that throughout the season played like a team all the time. They shared the game. Uh, you know, obviously Shay Gilus was the MVP, but still even the way he approached everything, it was still like a a team first attitude. Uh, I embraced that. You know, our great years in Detroit, that’s what we were. Uh, and so I I know the game of basketball was built that way. I had an old mentor of mine, I’m going to share this line with you, said this to me once. When I first became a head coach in uh in college, his name was Will Robinson. Great. Look him up when you guys are you looking at. So I came to visit when, you know, I’m thinking we’re going to talk X’s and O’s and all this stuff. And he said, Scott, he said, I just got one thing for you. He said basketball is the most unselfish game played by selfish people. He said it is your job to unselfish those selfish people. Yeah. And it’s um bringing up those two teams you just mentioned, they they stuck with me too um because of that like and the the depth and I’m like, you know, I try not to overreact to these, but I’m like, is this like is this where the league’s headed a little bit where you have to have depth? You have to be able to do different things because I’m watching the I love the game right now. I I think there’s such a beauty and there there’s so much freedom offensively for um just to read the game and react. you’re not constantly running plays. And then defensively seeing how these coaches are scheming things like OKC with like, hey, we’re starting in a zone, but the switch to a man. It’s like that takes all five people. Yeah. And it’s it’s just that chess match like Indiana, they’re getting the ball ahead and it’s constant movement because they’re running the lanes and they’re connecting. Unselfishness. Is that where the league’s headed? Well, I I say this, you know, again, I’m going back to when we in Detroit and that decade from 20200. Our mantra was to be the deepest team in the league because the two biggest stars in the league at the time were the Lakers. They won the first three titles was Kobe and Shaq. Yeah. And then they had Malone and Pton. We did beat that team. But I think what’s um getting 10 deep that early on and then I think the league got away from that a little bit when the whole idea of okay, you need three superstars to win, you know, a title. Yes. And I believe now with this the where the salary cap is and then the structure, you’ve got to be deep again. You really need like Oh, yeah. seven starters, seven, eight starting caliber players like th those teams had uh to be able to win and compete for a title. So I’ve always that’s always been in my mental rolodex and my belief in the game is having a deep team because not only for you know being able to apply pressure the entire game but to sustain injury throughout the season. You may lose lose a key player here and there if you don’t have too big of a drop off because your depth is really solid that allows you to maintain a level of play that keeps you in the hunt. Yeah. Allows you to deal with different matchups. I mean I think about OKC like it’s like they they went the whole playoffs you know starting Hardenstein then they switch it up and like watching Alex Caruso one night he’s defending guard then he’s defending you get to game seven you’re just like nowadays you the versatility is so important because someone’s getting picked on and you you can’t have weaknesses I’m watching some of these teams late in the playoffs like OKC it’s like I don’t know where their weakness is defensively like sometimes there’s one but it’s it’s it’s pretty wild to see how these teams are being consumed but the depth though, isn’t just about having a star player come off the bench, be your sixman. It’s literally about having the right player for that role. And I think that’s where like I love seeing the league go that way, developing players the right way to fit the system of what a team wants to do. And that’s why I we’re going to spend so much time on defining who the person is when we’re scouting and evaluating. Because look, people are playing this game, not machines. So finding the right personality fit, somebody who lives those six values that I talked about, the more people that you can get into your building that are like that, the better chance and opportunity you have of really building a a well-rounded team. So for you, you take over this situation. Um, how do you I’m sure you want to get in like, all right, I want to change this, this, this, these are all the things I want to do, but that’s obviously not the reality we live in. Um, how do you exert patience in like a high pressure situation? just trying to like see the big picture of building something sustainable. I need do some more to let the Sacramento Kings community know, hey, patience. Exactly. You know, that’s You know what’s so funny? I She says it all the time. They hate the P word. They hate the P word. And I think part of it too is like, you know, it’s like it’s it’s been tough and and two years a couple years. I love and I get to understand. Look, when I went to New York years ago, I mean, the New York fan base is extremely passionate and, you know, they’ve been waiting on the title since 1973. Yeah. So, while a lot of people talked about, okay, we’re good with patience, you know, how long does that last? Yeah. Uh, for me in general, I’m a patient personality. Yeah. And what I do know through all of my basketball experience of 25 years in the NBA and then go my 13 years of college, Rome is not building a day if you’re going to build something that’s sustainable to win. Now, if you want to just throw a whole bunch of stuff up against the wall just to make first round of the playoffs one time, you probably could, you know, to to do that. But if you my goal for this organization and for our group is once we get there, we’re going to stay there for a little while. We want to stay there for a little while. I don’t want to be a flash in the pan. So, it’s like building a home. Are you going to build a home on top of on top of the surface here? Yeah. Or you going to dig down 20 feet, pour concrete, and build a home that way? If you dig down, that’s going to take a little longer than to build a slab home, not going underneath the ground. I want to go dig it beneath the ground. That’s and that’s what like I whenever I use patience even on our podcast with all with our community and everything, you know, it’s from experience of just like understanding the game and I believe we have so many smart fans in Sacramento too. And so like they understand it, but I also understand the craving for like the want of of exactly what you’re saying of just it’s still I don’t mean to say this for all of us in Sacramento, but it’s still like low standards like get in the playoffs, but then stay in the playoffs a couple years. And when we got that taste of it with that beam team year, it was that taste. It was like Costco sample size and I wanted I want more. I wanted more. I could buy the whole package that could last us like I don’t know two three years. But like so that’s why you know being in this position now there I feel like going into these next couple years and especially even next year do you have expectations expectations for this team or what you want to see? I I’m not going to put a numerical wins expectation on this group. Again, my expectation is that we’re defining that identity this year of who we going to be, how we going to play. I want you to be able to look at the end of this season and say, “Okay, I see the competitive. I see the tough. I see the team oriented. I see the discipline. I see the professionalism and accountability.” If we can do that and we’re playing hard every night like that, we’re going to give ourselves a chance to win. So, let’s see, you know, where that takes us. Obviously, I’d love to win a lot of games. So, but let’s see. I’m not going to cuz I’m still learning the group, too. Absolutely. And learning what we really have, and that will help formulate some more decisions moving forward, too. Last one for you. What would be your message to Kings fans? Stay patient. I mean, no, no, but just no trust in what we’re we’re bringing here. We are committed to this 247 to making this uh a success story and we want this uh I think this community deserves a sustainable winner. And uh you know I I just look at and I marvel how the fans still embrace the Doug Christies and the Chris Webbers and the Vladic Devaches and Paisakovich and Bobby Jackson and Mike Bby that all those guys uh for what they did back during their time of playing. Let’s you know I want to get to at minimum that place one you know one day. But again, we’re going to do it prudent and in an opportunistic way. Uh we’re not going to just do a lot of crazy things just to to make it happen once. So that’s what I want the fans to know that we’re going to have a steady hand on the wheel and uh and enjoy the ride. Yeah. Let’s enjoy the journey together. At the end of the day, it’s a child’s game. Let’s enjoy. I love it. I always remind myself I I just like appreciate the journey. So, uh thanks so much for making time. Thanks. Thanks for having very busy and uh yeah, we’ll do it again soon. Now, this was my most enjoyable 30 minutes. Okay. All right. If you did other just to be clear, if I’m going to go back and watch other interviews, he says that same thing or smiles at anyone just like he smiled at. We appreciate you. Appreciate you. The one and only Scott Perry.

Deuce and Mo sat down with new Sacramento Kings general manager Scott Perry to discuss his journey, what he loves about being a GM, constructing a roster in today’s NBA, his expectations for the Kings and his message to Kings fans.
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