Kyle Filipowski’s Summer League DOMINANCE | NBA Stuff or Summer League? ASK LOJ Edition

Kyle Filipowski’s Summer League DOMINANCE | NBA Stuff or Summer League? ASK LOJ Edition

Should have the Jazz done the Dame Lillard deal to get the college hero back and his flip so good we can move on from Lowry. It’s all part of an Ask LJ Friday edition of Locked on Jazz. You are Locked on Jazz, your daily podcast on the Utah Jazz. Part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. How are you? I’m David Lock, radio voice of the Utah Jazz, Jazz NBA insider. This is Locked on Jazz. It’s your daily podcast on the Utah Jazz, giving you insight, expertise, geeky numbers, and hopefully making it way better to be a Jazz fan each and every day. Thank you so much for making Locked on Jazz your first listen of the day. We are free and available on all podcasting apps. And to the everydayers, you’re the best. And everyone submitted questions for an awesome edition of Ask LJ. Thank you. Love the interaction. Love the shows. Great stuff. 18th of July. Uh today’s show is brought to you by Game Time. I was just looking at my camp tickets. Bought them on Game Time. Today’s episode is brought to you by Game Time. Download the Game Time app, create an account, and use the code lock NBA for $20 off the first purchase. And I was looking at my Keith Urban tonight. Maybe the cheap tickets are not expensive on Game Time or not as exp as expensive. All right. Um, what are we doing today? Your questions. They’re pretty great. There a lot of them. Um, fives that can’t play four, fours that can’t play five. Two feet versus one feet basketball. Good basketball questions. Lot of Keonte George expectations. What about our young guys missing summer league? How vital is that? Rank the nine youngsters. Kyle Filipowski insanity love reality check coming from me. But we start with what are your thoughts on Dame Lillard going back to Portland? Should the Jazz have done this? So my first thoughts on Dame Lillard going back to Portland is I don’t get it at all. Um I’m a little confused with Portland’s roster. Um they have a 35 year old point guard in Drew Holidayiday and they have a Dames obviously I don’t think Dame plays this year. Um and so then they get him next year. They must have and he has a no trade clause. So even if he lights it up, I mean they just must have had a real conversation with him that he he he’s gone through a divorce. He’s separated from his kids and he must have just wants to come back to be in Portland and he’s kind of willing to do it in any role. I mean, I think if you could have had Dame around from the jazz standpoint as a veteran to teach the young kids to do that, it would be it would have been great. Um, he’s he’s just knows how to play. He’s worked hard. He’s just a good kid. He’s, you know, his work with the Special Olympics is amazing. So, all of that stuff would be would have been great. Um, as a player, he’s not going to be the same. And coming back from Achilles 10 at 35 or 36 years old is really unlikely. and he was problematic defensively. He’s going to the Hall of Fame, but I would also say I thought by the the Milwaukee stint, I thought at some point you had to start looking back at Portland and say to yourself, okay, maybe some of Dame’s defensive liabilities were significant enough that it prevented them from going places because it was suddenly preventing Portland from or Milwaukee from going places. So, you know, could have the J should have the Jazz done this. One, I don’t think they had the option because I think Dame wanted to go to Portland and be back with his family and around his kids and that was a lot of the talk last year of him being miserable. Um, and I do think as a veteran leader be good as a basketball player. I I don’t see the value necessarily at this point in his career. Is Kyle Filcowski good or just looking good against summer league guys or both? Is Flip a realistic substitute for Lowry? Making Lowry in his big contract expendable? And is Flip not Flip’s not as athletic, not as fast or quick, and works his butt off, and he’s aggressive. He makes Okay, so let me answer the second one first. Flip is not a realistic substitute for Lowry Markin. Lowry Markin is a top 50 player in the NBA. Lowry Markin has shot the three for the Jazz one year and one year was not as good at at you know I think and was a 20 at 40% from three for two years in a row. Last year was off by a little bit at 35%. is a career 37% shooter, is a different athletically a different player, is limited in what he can do with the ball in his hands and make his own plays, but is still a far superior player. Um, and I would be surprised if Philipowski’s ever a top 50 player in the NBA. So, no, Flip is not a realistic substitute for Lowry Marketing. Okay, so let’s that one I’m moving past. Is Kyle Filiposki good or just looking good against summer league? And I love this way this guy asked this question or both. And the answer is both. We cannot take away how good Kyle Filipowski looked in summer league. We can put it in context. Okay. Philadelphia started Adam Bona. Bona was a second round draft pick similar to um Kyle. So they’re kind of on equal footing. uh a a dumb bonus 610 and he played 58 games last year and played about 16 minutes a game for Philadelphia. Um and so that’s like it’s a he played at UCLA. He’s talented but he’s he may be an NBA player. He may not pro not totally sure actually. Um and so yeah, opening night 22 points, six rebounds, eight of 11 shooting against the fellow second round draft pick. He was the Kyle was the 32nd pick. Bona was the 41st pick. kind of exact same place in their career. But not Joic obviously, but not even Donovan Klingan or Zack Edy, like if you run the Western Conference for a minute. Not Zubac, right? Like, right. Not an NBA starter, like at best an NBA backup. The next night he went up against Bacott, who he had played a bunch of times at North Carolina, was undrafted, who played 14 minutes, and then Memphis generally played 66 and 67 and smaller the rest of the night. Oklahoma City played Cisco, who went to Cal is interesting, hasn’t played in the NBA, played six years of college, and he played 14 minutes before they went small. Then against Charlotte when he had a massive night 326 and five he literally played himself to some extent. He played uh Kulkinburg burner who’s I think older than he is who’s in Charlotte who um was I think the 34th pick of this year’s draft which is probably actually a better pick than um than Kyle. And he was um and he’s 23 years old. He’s older than Kyle. Um he just hasn’t played an NBA game. So that’s a perfectly good fair comp. And Kyle was awesome at 326 and five. Then he played I Evan Mo I Evan Mobley’s brother Ivan Mobley who had 21 minutes of game before he tapped out and Golden State went small. And then in his really dominating performance against the Spurs their starter stand played five minutes and then they were never had anybody taller than 69 on the floor. So he was great. He was great and that’s awesome because the alternative is the problem. But this is not NBA caliber centers. In fact, if you look at the guys he went against in the six games he played, my guess is that two of them get NBA minutes this year. Bona will get some NBA minutes for Philadelphia and Kulk and Brener will probably get a lot of NBA minutes for Charlotte the way Kyle did for us last year. I I don’t know if either of them are NBA good, but so he he he dominated two NBA rotation players, and that’s great. And that probably should tell us that Kyle’s ready to be an NBA rotation player and offensively is better than an NBA rotation player. He’s a really elite offensive player. Now, against Kyle Cbrer, he also had eight fouls. Um, so let’s not take Kyle Filibowski’s summer league against a bunch of guys that aren’t NBA players and tell me he’s better than Lowry. Let’s not take Kyle’s NBA summer league and say he’s ready to start against other NB real NBA players. But let’s take Kyle’s summer league and say that was kind of awesome and that’s a great sign and that’s exactly what he could have done because he didn’t get to play against any of the bigger guys. And so against what he could face on those nights, he did on an offensive side of the ball the best he possibly could. And that’s awesome. That’s awesome. That’s all he could play. Cannot blame him for the fact that my that Memphis played their center 14 minutes or Oklahoma City played their center 14 minutes or that Golden State played their center 20 minutes or that the Spurs played their center five minutes. That’s not his fault, but it is context. 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And I’ve forgotten somebody cuz there’s supposed to be eight players. Nine youngsters and I’ve forgotten someone. Um, oh, Taylor Hendricks has got to be in here somewhere. I have no idea. So I I I’m going Kesler, Ace, Keonte, Bryce, Cody. I don’t know. I’m kind of making that up. Um, on the top side, Kesler’s size means he’s going to start or start or be an NBA rotation player. Acce’s skill set and size, as I said during the drafts, I just don’t think he’s a risk because he’s 6’8 and can shoot. Keonte, I think, is gonna I’m I’m still bullish on Keonte. I believe Keant’s got every skill there that’s needed. Bryce is shooting as elite in a shooting league. I said it yesterday on Cody and this will be our next question. Philipowski is I just still don’t know where he’s playing defensively and I don’t know enough about any of the guards. In fact, Clayton Jr. I just don’t know enough. I don’t think that’s a setting. And Collier’s got to be able to shoot. Like you cannot play and shoot 24% from three. Um, and Taylor’s injury. Taylor’s body is great. So, Taylor would go somewhere in the middle of the pack because of his body. Curious is your logic that Cody has more upside than Flip. I think you’re on David Lock Island there. I probably am. Cody’s doing does doing more that doesn’t seem to have a natural feel for the game at all. So, this might be ridiculous and I might look back at this and we might all laugh at me that in 2025, a year after Cody being drafted and having arguably the worst year of any top 10 pick ever and one of the worst NBA years ever that I still think that if I had to project five years from now, I think that Cody’s got a better chance to be a regular rotation player than Flip. Might be insane because of Flip’s offensive skills. Here’s my thought. Cody’s 67. I think can has multiple routes by which to play. I think he’ll be able to play some two, he’ll play some three. I think he’ll be able to defend as he gets bigger and stronger. He is going to have to be able to shoot the ball consistently. And I think he’ll be able to be at minimum if I I still believe he’s going to be a 15 to 20 minute NBA rotation player because six, seven guys do that. And if he can shoot it adequately and handle it adequately, which are the two biggest areas of improvement, I think with size and strength, this defense will come around and then he’s an NBA rotation player. And I kind of think all those things are going to happen. I feel kind of comfortably this the 28 lb strength gain in the last year makes me feel like that the strength gain is going to come and he’s going to be 67 210 at some point here. Um and then body-wise he’s just completely set. And then I just think there actually are enough skills for him to be a fourth or fifth guy on the floor really comfortably and to be effective. And so that’s that’s my thought. I could be way off and the shooting is going to be the big issue for Flip. There’s no question how incredibly awesome his offensive skill set is. But there’s also some things about it like some of the offensive skill set stuff is him handling him handing off him dri okay. You got to make sure you want him doing it right. He’s got to be the best guy who’s doing it. He’s not Jokic. Um then if he’s not doing that, he’s really a spot-upstretch shooter, which is fine. Um and the thing I’m most excited about is summer league that I think it translates better is I think his shot looks great. He shot 38% from three. So, that’s the key. And then, as we’ve just talked about a ton, like he’s just got to get better laterally to move. Um, and he’s got to be able to move quicker. Like, there were just those plays last year where he is guarding at the free throw line or the elbow and the guy catches and spins on him and he’s still standing still. if he’s a target. There’s a there’s a there was a great line last year about players, they can be deficient in something. This actually fits for both Cody and Walker. And this Cody and Flip and this actually goes for call your shooting. So, you can be deficient. You can be less than average below. But if you’re poor enough that it derails all other things that are going on on the floor, then you you don’t get to play. So if Kyle’s defense is such that every single time someone comes down the floor, they’re calling him out, moving him in open space, and just going at him or isolating him at the elbow. And and so whatever your defensive scheme or whatever you do defensively is just out the window, gone because of the fact that Kyle’s so bad defensively that he doesn’t get to play. If Isaiah Collier’s shooting is, he does everything else great. He drives, plays with tempo, passes the basketball, defends his ass off, does all these things. If his shooting is so poor that when he ran a pick and roll with probably flip or one actually, I think it was with uh Songo the other night at the elbow and they went under at the elbow. So that no matter what your offensive system is, it’s out the window, then he can’t play. Cody’s shooting last year was so bad that no matter what the Jazz offensive system they were running is, the other team was leaving Cody wide open. They were bringing that guy into the middle of the paint. So, the whole offense doesn’t work just because of his deficiency, then he can’t play. Okay. So, that’s that’s the game here is that you can be below average or not great at something, but if you’re so deficient that your offensive or defensive system actually can’t function, you don’t get to play. I think the concern still on Flip and Collier and Cody is that that could be the case in some of their ways. How beneficial is Summer League for rookies like Walter Clayton Jr. and age? Do we lose out on development opportunity? Um I missed out on seeing Tan actually. That was the one I want to see. I want to see him 25 years old and just be totally grown up above everyone else. He look that way for a game. Um I have a mixed bag on this and I think you’re feeling this during the show. So I don’t think a lot of summer league, okay? Like, let’s be perfectly honest, I love going down. I think NBA summer camp is the greatest thing ever. Seeing all my friends and having fun. I bumped into an former NBA coach who I’ve known since 98 who I’ve been with and like I looked into his make sure I had the right number for him. I had five phone numbers for him. Like, it was super funny and like, okay, we’ve known each other forever. Um, I’m old as you can see the wrinkles on my face if you’re watching on YouTube and I’ve been in the league since 92 and so and it’s 33 years of friendsships and things in NBA the summer league is great and it’s the best we have right now. But as we move out of summer league and we start to use as an evaluation for what’s coming up in the re next year and it’s our most recent bias of impact on things. I think we need to flush it from our brain. I think summer league is valuable for these young guys because it lets them run up and down the court and get some semblance and just get a feel and understand. But I also think this for young players, I think this sequence of action, which is college season into full workouts to get ready for a season into summer league into suddenly July 18th and they’re going to be back here by September. If they even go home by September 1, they’re back having probably September 5 or whatever post Labor Day. They’re gonna end up with a run in the gym here going pretty hard and they’re never going to get a chance to breathe to even realize what’s happened in their lives and who they are and where they live and what’s taking place. So, I’m not I don’t see it as a massive development opportunity. I think it’s a way for them to learn the offense and see it and the camp and frankly the seven days prior to summer league might be more important than the actual games. What are your expectations for Lowry this season? Are we beyond asking him to shock create, facilitate, and do you still think that development can happen? I love this question. I think this is a really interesting question. To some extent, we screwed up Lowry last year. We pushed Lowry beyond what he’d ever done before. We gave him the ball. We made him play isolation to see what he could do. And it didn’t go great, frankly. Um and so and he didn’t you know he’s still working on it. He’s about to come off of his you know there’s Euro basket coming up and Scott Sheldon Jazz assistant will be is on that staff um and will be out there working with him um and we’ll have touch points as an assistant on that staff and doing that. You know the fact is that Lowry actually only ran 85 isolations all of last year. It it felt like we ran a lot for him, but I think he only ended up running 85 isolations all year, which is 150 third in the league, which is the same amount as Lou Dort. So, it’s a little like I think we may have overplayed this storyline a little bit. With that said, you know, he ranked 130th out of 177 guys who ran 70 isolations. He was in the 26th percentile. Like, that’s not ideal. He was in the 13th, you know, like. So, it’s not his strength. He’s not comfortable at it. He isn’t making inroads. He isn’t owning a space. Do we keep working at it? Probably. Should we keep working at it? Probably. Should we overwhelm him with it and make it him the only thing he’s doing? Probably not. That maybe late in games, you’re bringing Flip in and trying to run some offense through Flip and doing some things of that sort to relieve Lowry and let him do what he’s great at, which is play off the ball. That’s a thought. I’ll be interested to talk to Will about that. Questions have been fabulous today. Some good basketball questions about two feet versus one feet and more. Next on Locked on Jazz. I loved this question. Um, and then some Keiante questions. These always I could do two or three shows off your questions. They’re so good. Um, where is this question? I saved it on purpose. Question was, you always Oh, you’ve discussed playing off one foot, but basketball coach in high school or college now saying two-foot plays with Brunson, Donovan, Coniple, it’s Luca Dona, Trilli. So, the one foot is going to the basket, accelerating to the basket on a break in traffic, being able to get off one foot quickly and getting to the rim. The minute you bring the second foot down on your way up, you’ve now taken an extra split second and the world will collapse and close on you. Playing in control in the paint off two feet, coming set, throwing a pass and be able to use all your options or stepping through or using the euro step in that fashion is the difference. So, one is attacking the basket, trying to finish at the rim, having that aspect of your game, and the other is playing more in the paint in reaction to how hard it is to score at the at the rim in the NBA. the the storyline, one of the big storylines in the NBA is that rim shots have just stayed the same. Teams have just decided what they’re going to allow in regards to rim shots. That’s it’s been about 30% of the league shots are at the rim between transition, everything else. And it’s been that way now for frankly I think um about five, six, seven years. And so in in 31% last year’s the rim shooting frequency and the year and everyone’s trying to get to the rim every play. Um and the year before that I think it was 31% and if you kind of look it’s been 30% for a while. So now how do you react to last actually year before was 32.8 so it’s going down. You’re just you cannot get to the rim anymore in this league because teams have just decided to take that away defensively. Walker Kesler just stands there. Um and this is how you react. You’ve come to two feet at seven, eight feet and you play off that and figure it out and the best ones have. We’ll see if Keniple really has that. That was those who liked Kanipple. That was that was what they liked about him. Um, what does success look for Kee in year three? The first thing for me is obviously he’s got to make a larger defensive effort. Okay. Two, the matur maturity he is showing in the off season. this right now at parlays into the season, which is a little bit of the reason why I’m bullish on it. Three, his effective field goal percentage, which went from 12th percentile to 32nd percentile, has to continue to move upwards. He’s got to do that by taking a few more shots at the rim. He’s only taking 13% of his shots at the rim, which is the 16th percentile. So, he’s got to figure out how he’s getting to the rim more and what he’s doing in in that regard. like he he just doesn’t get to the rim very much and his foul drawing is not very good. Um it’s not bad. It actually got a lot better last year. It’s one of the reasons I’m bullish on him. He went from 11% of his shots uh getting fouled to 12.4% which is a big increase. So if he can get fouled a little bit more, move his shot distribution around a little bit, I think it will yield him to have less four of 14 nights on the offensive side. That’s so to me that’s the big thing is just the amount of nights Kee has a night that’s just a killer like kills the team. Just you know if you go and look last year I think it was I’m looking it up right now. If you take below 33%, he had 26 nights last year where he shot 33% or below. It’s a lot. 26 of his 67 nights. So, one out of more than one out of every three nights, he shot 33% or below. That’s going to kill you as a team. But I think if he can go to the line a little bit more, and he started to do that last year, if he can take one or two more shots at the rim instead of a tough fadeaway and improve that shot selection, the the fact of the matter is last year when you just looked at Key’s shot distribution and his a shots where he was taking them, the chances were he was shooting 40% most nights just on kind of league average, the amount of shots he takes, if that makes sense. If you if you break down his average night and where his shots come from across the board, it’s like and his per game numbers of where he shoots, it’s like, okay, you’re taking five floaters. Well, that’s a 40% shot. So, you’re going two for five on those and you’re only getting to the rim three times. And then you’re taking six seven threes and that’s 36%. Okay. So, if you shoot average, you’re now shooting four of 12 or five of 12, depending which which one goes in. Neither of those are good enough, but you’re one shot off being 33%. That’s my point. So, I think he’ll fix that. Chris Jones has been working with him a lot on that. Do you think Do I think I’ll see Kee playing point guard at all this season? Yes. I think we’ll be I think there’s I think we’ll be intermixing those minutes. I think Keonte could start a point guard. I We’ll talk about this next week. Like I think there’s a chance Kee and Bryce are your starters. I think there’s a chance that Clayton and Keonte are your starters. I think there’s a chance that Collier and Keiant are your starters. I think there’s a chance that Clayton and Sensible are your starters. I like of those four guys, I think you can find every combination there and that might end up starting. There’s an interesting basketball. I’ve heard a lot players who can play the five on offense but not on defense. They’re an opposite archetype. So, there’s a five on defense, but not on offense. Yeah, I think that’s Walker, Castler, Rudy Gobear, Mitchell Robinson, and all those. Um, those are the fives that play five on defense, but can’t play five on offense, and they certainly can’t play a four on offense. Most fives can’t play a four on offense. Um, so I think that’s the archetypes there that you’re talking about is okay, these guys are awesome offensively, John Collins and Kyle Philpowski and they as the five because they spread the floor and they do all sorts of things. I think though John I think has emerged to be able to have four offensively still hasn’t found his way defensively. Um, John and Kyle could end up being very similar. Um, and the defensive one is that you can play the five Um, and you can’t and you don’t you hurt offensively. Are the Jazz more likely to use their trade exception to go after an expensive vet like Terry Roier for a pick or trade for a younger player like Jaylen Green? So, I think it depends when they use the trade exception. As we talked about this week, if you use the trade exception at the trade deadline this year when I think it has its highest value, it’s to help someone get out of financial penalty. And because the Jazz will be at the salary floor and have room to get up to the aprons, they’ll be able to use this more than any other team in the league. Nobody else is going to have that delta of space. If the Jazz use it at the trade next year in free agency, is it more likely to try to use the extension to get Brandon Ingram type or and and trade Lowry? Side note, let’s just go Brandon Ingram at that point. I think if we haven’t used it at the trade deadline this year and that doesn’t come to fruition, then I think in free a at free agency next year, we’re making that move in that regard. One of the other questions was asked a ton and I came to run out of time or I missed it somewhere. I had it up here pretty high I think and then maybe flew through it is assuming the Jazz hold on to their draft pick and somehow manage to grab another stud, can the Jazz front office finally start going all in on returning the playoffs? We’ll talk about this next week on like when did the Jazz say go. The scenario is that Ace Ba the the the fastest scenario, we’ll talk about this more next week, is that Ace Bailey hits and it’s clear that Ace Bailey is hit and then we’re drafting in the top four and we know we’re getting another guy we feel comfortable is going to hit. Maybe you start to layer in there. It’s a little early. We’ll talk about it next week. Have a great weekend. Be safe. 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David Locke, radio voice of the Utah Jazz and Jazz NBA Insider, tackles the Damian Lillard trade rumors and evaluates Kyle Filipowski’s Summer League performance. He dissects the potential impact of Lillard returning to Portland, questioning the fit with the current roster and Lillard’s future role. Locke provides a reality check on Filipowski’s impressive showing, contextualizing his dominance against non-NBA caliber competition while highlighting the rookie’s offensive prowess.

The episode dives into ranking the Jazz’s young prospects, with Walker Kessler, Keyonte George, and Taylor Hendricks featuring prominently. Locke explores the development opportunities of Summer League, discusses expectations for Lauri Markkanen’s upcoming season, and analyzes Keyonte George’s potential growth areas. He addresses the challenges of playing as a big in the modern NBA, touching on the evolving dynamics of rim protection and offensive versatility. The podcast concludes with insights on the Jazz’s future moves, including potential trade scenarios and the timeline for returning to playoff contention.

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