Which Sacramento Kings’ player raised/lowered their stock during Summer League?

Which Sacramento Kings’ player raised/lowered their stock during Summer League?

Taking you up to 200 pm. A little stock up, stock down with the Sacramento Kings, the young players for your Sacramento Kings. And let’s just start here, Kyle. I felt like this is the most that we’ve ever talked about Isaac Jones, so I’m going to get him kind of out of the way. Stock up with Isaac Jones. Stock up with Isaac Jones. Uh, it’s pretty simple. Like I said, if you’ve been listening the past hour, thank you for listening. And he was nowhere on my my board, my radar. Uh, so shout out to him for That’s how you do it. That’s how you force yourself on the radar. So, we will kind of rock and roll with that one. If anybody disagrees, hop on the text line. 916339140. Call line. text line also 1:00 we are giving away tickets to see the Lumers at Golden One Center August 6. So you want to be around if you want to see the Lumers that’s at 100 p.m. So stock up for Isaac Jones pretty simple. Do you have any thoughts Kyle? I mean 30 points well 60 points in two games in the semifinals was definitely wonderful. We’ve we’ve seen him put up, you know, 40 point games in the GLeague this past season. Um, being an undrafted rookie last year, now getting a full training camp essentially for the first time is going to be interesting to see because his g his contract is only guaranteed for this year, right? So, it is a little bit bit of a you got to show us something, right? uh Nimi Kada who was kind of Isaac Jones before Isaac Jones. He spent three years between the G-League and the NBA team and after that they were like, “Hey, thank you. We just we can’t keep you on a two-way contract anymore, but we don’t want to give you a full NBA deal.” So, he ends up going to Boston. Finally gets that NBA contract. Um hopefully it works out for Isaac in Sacramento. But to to many of the points we just outlined, he’s going to have to find a role on this Kings team that is not the role he’s been playing for the summer league team or the G-League team. He and in my opinion, he’s going to have to be able to shoot 36% on three-pointers, specifically corner threes, if he’s going to have a role on this Sacramento Kings team. Yeah. So, I’m right there with you. I will go with I will go with stock up for Isaac and really happy with what I saw next. Let’s go with Maxim Ray. No, I’m going to say, you know, I’m going to say stock up. I know he’s my guy. I don’t know if it’s as up as maybe I would have thought. And here’s why. I think that he might be one of the he he might be one of the only second rounders with expectations as high as he had them. So much conversation about him slipping to the second. So much conversation about no, he’s really a firstrounder that he dang near got evaluated like a firstrounder. and I think he played well, but his expectations shot so high through the roof that I’m going to actually say that his stock is up, but it’s not as up. And that’s due to his expectations probably being a little bit too high. So, I think it’ll help him in the long run. I think we’re all looking at him a little bit more realistically, but I think going into summer league, and I didn’t help. I was part of the hype train. A lot of people were saying, “Oh no, this guy’s going to be crazy.” Then he had that first game where he just went he just went out of his mind to to kind of start off and we’re all thinking, “Man, this is going to be insane. I do think he’s going to be a good player, but his stock isn’t up as much as some others because his expectations were a little higher than others.” Yeah, I it’s interesting because he did not star on this summer league team. In fact, in the the semi-final game, they had him on the bench in the closing minutes uh to go with the three guard lineup, the smaller lineup, and and they did that a little bit against the Hornets, but it was harder to do that cuz they have um what’s his name? Cochr Brener. Yeah. Who is 7 foot2 and just putting shots up over even Isaac Jones, who is a large person, but is you know, Cockr Brener for the the Hornets was huge. So, I I guess I look at Maxim Reo as like, yes, the stock is up. If you get any contribution from a second round pick, then your stock is up. And and we feel pretty good about the fact he’s going to be a contributor almost right away, especially now that they’ve traded Jonas Valenunis. I think their their plan is for him to back up Damontus Sabonis and do some of the similar things to Sabonis. But at the same time, he was what the fourth or fifth best player on the Kings summer league team, which again it is its own conversation of whether that matters or not, but Devin Carter was excellent. Nate Clifford was really excellent and and Isaac Jones, as we just outlined, had an excellent close to the summer league. So, you didn’t quite see that, but you saw enough flashes to be like that guy can be uh the player that they hoped would be a contributor as a second round pick and why people thought he would be a firstrounder. So, it’s certainly not down, but it’s like kind of about where we thought it was. Right. Right. And I I just think it’s really funny because it is based on the hype that’s behind you and where you get drafted because I could see a lot of people being excited about Maxim Reno, but then saying don’t be that excited about Isaac Jones where hey, I know Isaac Jones is older and has played a year, but even still, you could make the Couldn’t you make the same argument that somebody made on the text line if you’re relying on Maxim? If I said if you’re relying on Maxim Reno for legitimate minutes, you’re probably not a good NBA team. I feel like people would push back on that because of the cache that’s behind his name and the fact that even though he was drafted in the second round, a lot of people felt as if he should have been a firstrounder. I had an agent tell me that he should have been a firstrounder. So that would be okay. But saying Isaac Jones is going to get legitimate time, that’s not okay. So it’s just funny how we kind of look at these things. Ultimately, I think it’s similar. I I think if you need if you’re needing legitimate rotation minutes from Maxim Reno and rookie, and I mean legit, like 20 if you’re needing 20 minutes from Maxim Reno every single night, either his stock is through the roof or you’re not that good of a team. Either you got a steal in the draft. Yeah. One of the biggest steals in recent memory. Well, I I mean, there’s one of these every year. I mean, Jaylen Wells was starting on a Grizzlies team that made the playoffs, but they scratched and clawed to the playoffs. And to that point, he was a completely different player. And you’re not wrong, but he and I we watched it. He was a completely different player when Jaw returned. Yeah. He just didn’t know what to do with his hands. I I don’t know what I’m doing here. Yeah. And and maybe Ray knows put in that position. I guess we should also probably just note he had the wrist injury that kept him out for part of summer league. know his first two games were better than his close but he also had a wrist injury in the middle so I don’t know how that affects it but I think to the same point right if Nick Clif so right if the starting lineup stays the same and you’ve got your gluttony of guards and you have Nick Clifford essentially filling the Jake Loravia role you have Isaac Jones as your backup four and Maxine Rau as your backup five either you’ve got a young core that’s going to develop into a bunch of good role players or to your point, you’re just gonna lose those minutes every time Keegan or Sabonis or I guess in this case Lavine comes off the floor. Yeah. So yeah, that that’s kind of where we’re at there. Stock up, stock down. Next on the list would be of course Nick Clifford. So Nick Clifford, another obvious one. Stock up. Sock up on Nick Clifford. He was an actual firstrounder and somehow his expectations weren’t as high as Maxim Reno, but he still showed up and showed out for majority of the summer league. You saw a little bit of okay, what’s going on here? He was kind of out of control yesterday for a lot of it. I think they all started pressing once they were down. It was a really weird game how they even got down that big to begin with. It’s just if you don’t make doesn’t matter if it’s G-League, summer league, or the NBA. It’s a make or miss league. And if you don’t make shots, you can play great. You can play and there were some defensive lapses for sure, but you can play the best defense in the world. If you don’t make shots, it’s going to catch up with you. And it just caught up with them in general. And Nick Clifford, uh, he kind of pressed a little bit between him and Devin. And like we said, the kind of point guard by committee thing, kind of a rough last couple games for Nick, but I still think stock up. Like I said, the oldest the oldest firstrounder taken and he should have looked as good as he did saw a couple warts towards the end, but I think that’s just a result of playing along playing for as long as they did and as many games as they did. So, I’m not going to hold it against him. I think he could be a rotation player right now. I I continue to feel like all these two guards are redundant and even in different ways. I know Nick and Malik aren’t the same type of player, but they’re not far enough apart in my opinion. So, you got those two, you got Devin, you got Keon. The reality is Demar De Rozan has been kind of masquerading as a three and sometimes a four. He’s really a two. In my mind, he’s always been a two. So it and you got Zack Lavine who also is probably a two. So it just a lot of the same position. But with that being said, I think what Nick brings to the table defensively and the size that he has is going to allow him to make his way into the rotation. Stock up similar to Maxim stock was way up and then you keep playing, you start seeing why they went where they went. And that’s okay. That’s okay. I think he’s going to get time on this team. Yeah, they were talking about shutting him down early on in the summer league. And if they shut him down, none of us would have had these last couple games to say, “Oh man, he didn’t look the same.” So that’s what I’m talking about when we have these conversations. That’s why I’m not going to talk to people, you know, and and go back and forth on how he shot it because if you had shut him down, it’s different with Devin because Devin had kind of a bad game to start off with, right? But and we were looking for Devin to maybe, you know, just just find more of that groove. But with with Nick Clifford, he did start out hot and then we just saw, you know, kind of it it move in a certain direction and that was him more so just coming back down to reality. That’s all. Yeah. And I think his is kind of the easiest to evaluate in the sense of, as you mentioned, oldest first round pick at the summer league, right? Excellent right out the gate, was shooting like 70% from the field. Yeah, in the first three games obviously he wasn’t going to shoot 70% from three the whole time. So you could just look at this as a regression to the mean. Where I feel great about Nick Clifford is knowing that he is going to have to play a role and was drafted specifically to play a very specific role on this team. And it makes me feel good to see a lot of the things that people were talking about. The length, the defensive tenacity, the shooting with a little bit of ball handling. you saw all of that on display. So, you feel a lot better about him being the person that was advertised versus like Devin Carter, they drafted him and then, oh, by the way, he’s going to have shoulder surgery and you’re not going to see him for seven months. At least with Nick, it’s like they drafted him very specifically to fill the Jake Laoravia role and it looks like that is what he’s going to be next season. Yeah. And now I’m just wondering, it doesn’t matter, but if they don’t lose Jake, do they draft Nick? Do they move into this the first? If they don’t lose Jake, I don’t know because it does straight up feel as if we are going to we’re going to lose Jake. That’s okay. They were already kind of talking to Nick based on that timing and when things were happening for the draft. We have a contingency plan for that. And I think Nick is a better playmaker than Jake Laravia was with the ball in his hands. I think obviously Jake obvious, you know, years of experience and they’re basically the same age, but Jake can do some things that Nick cannot do, at least not yet. And Nick can do some things that Jake cannot do, at least not yet. And Jake is not going to be handling the basketball on the Lakers. No. So he’s not going to improve in that regard. If there’s ever a moment on that team where Jake Loravia is ball handling, something has gone horribly wrong, right? With Luca, LeBron, and Austin Reeves, there’s never going to be a scenario where he’s primary ball handler, which I don’t know if there’s going to be a scenario for Nick Clifford either because as much I mean, we didn’t see a ton of it. I didn’t watch every game, but I from what I understand, we didn’t see a ton of him doing ball handling. But at this point, even if he were on the floor without Shruder, wouldn’t you rather a D Rozan or a Lavine, who’s proven to be a capable ball handler and offensive threat, just just run ball handling in that situation? Just put Nick in the best position to do what Nick does best. Yeah. So, stock up for for Nick. stock up for all three and all right it we have to do it Devin Carter okay and Devin Carter it’s a tough one I don’t I I think there’s a the easy out is just to say that stock is down but I’m trying to I’m trying to look a little bit deeper because he did have some good moments he had some good moments yesterday in the game he was five of 16, but he had some good moments yesterday. He still had seven assists and he only had one turnover. So, my fear is I don’t know how that translates. And you saw when teams gave uh these guys more pressure to nontraditional point guards. They struggled a bit. So, I don’t know, Kyle. I’m trying to be nice on a on a Monday. Can I say the stock is the same? Is that allowed? No, it’s stock up or stock down. Allan, it What is this stock equal? What are we just coming off the weekend? The stock market hasn’t opened yet. What’s happening? I mean, it has to be down. Yeah, it has to be down. I think you’re lower on him because you didn’t see the same signs that or the the the signs of success that you saw from the other three. Even Maxim, which again we talked about is a more complicated case, but Devin played well. Um, I remember I was watching the game yesterday and they were down like 15, but Devin hit a three in the first half and I was like, okay, great. Was ball handling, came off, I want to say it was Cardwell came off a Cardwell screen, buried a three. I was like, excellent ball handler. Then he took three more and they were all clanks and I was like, okay. Well, when he misses, he really dedicates himself to missing. Yeah, he had a he had one that like clanked off the back rim and went way in the air. There there were a couple I think Clifford had an airball, too. There were a couple tough ones, but I mean, he was a plus a So, against the Raptors somehow, and this is what’s so fun about plus or minus, Devin Carter played 29 minutes. He was three of 10 from the field. He was 0 of six from three. He was two of six from the free throw line. He was a plus 11. Yeah. With eight points. Such such a weird sport. All of this is so weird. But this is kind of my thing with Devin Carter, right? So, let’s say they’re going to have him run point a little bit this year. Just just roll. If you’re if you’re in listening on the radio, I I I didn’t make a face, but I kind of made a face. You were like, “Okay, interesting.” You were like going to counter my point before I even made it. Just the premise of him playing point. Continue. So, let’s say they they run a a just a traditional pick and roll action or pick and pop with, you know, pick whoever, Sabonis, I don’t know, Drew Eubanks, whatever we want to do. If he’s going to come off that screen and they’re just going to leave him open for three, which was the strategy the Hornets and the Raptors both chose in their games was like, “Oh, you’re going to run a pick and roll. We’re just going to roll with the guy. Shoot it. We don’t care.” and he was like 1 for 10 before I think he hit one late in the Hornets game. But basically it was like if they’re just going to let him roll off the screen and shoot off the dribble, he’s got to be able to hit him at like a 40% rate if he’s going to be a point guard in the NBA. You have to force them 40. I mean, I’m like I’m just saying specifically on wide open, right? Call it 35, whatever. You just have to play point guard well enough for them to respect you as a threat from the top of the key. And from the summer league, I don’t, again, I only watched a little bit of it, but it doesn’t feel like teams respect him as a scoring threat from the point guard position right now. Yeah. I mean, even yesterday, they were all wide open and that that turns into the well, he’s open for a reason, right? And that’s what they’ll say. You’re open for a reason. We’ve seen this happen with the Westbrooks of the world. We’ve seen this happen with the Draymonds of the world where you either take the bait, you make a three and then you, you know, you you cuss them out on the way back or you clank or you swallow your pride, take the space they’re giving you, penetrate the the defense, get to the key, and kick it out or do whatever you need to do. He’s just and and look, this is exactly what Scott Perry was saying to Brandon Nunez about him. He’s just an unfinished product off specifically offensively. And I think that what they need to do is I know that the Josh Hart comparison came out for Nick Clifford. I think Nick Clifford is much more polished offensively, not even just shooting shooting the basketball, passing the basketball than Josh Hart. I think if you’re Devin Carter, you need to just watch a ton of Josh Hart film. And Josh Hart is not an offensive guy. And I’m not saying I’m not saying Devin Carter can’t be uh better than Josh Hart, but I I would say that’s where you need to start because nobody knows what Josh Hart really does offensively. He has no bag, per se, but but you look up and he’s got 15 points. Exactly. Exactly. So that’s what I would do if I was Devin Carter. I would say I’m just going to be Josh Hart. I’m going to hit open threes. But again, Josh Hart doesn’t have to play point guard. So that’s the And he’s I don’t think Devin Carter if if they thought Devin Carter was going to get legitimate time. We still wouldn’t be hearing about Ben Simmons, even though Dave kind of debunked it. We have that sound for you, too. We still wouldn’t hear about Ben Simmons and we would not hear about Russell Westbrook because there there would be enough. There would be enough. I don’t think they have any real plans for Devin Carter playing point guard. That’s how I truly feel. Which is tough cuz then if let’s assume the roster is going to stay the same, where does he fit into the equation? because you would have Shruder and then at the two let’s say he’s not a point guard at the combo guard you’ve got Keon Ellis rotating with Zack Lavine you’ve got Malik Monk rotating with Demar D Rozan and Nick Clifford right like this is the thing we were talking about before is either they’re going to have to balance out the roster or someone is just not going to play and right now it looks like that someone is Devin Carter and that’s kind of a rough situation that they find themselves in because I don’t know I don’t know how they I don’t know how they give him the runway to get better other than going to Stockton which is not where we thought the 13th pick in the draft would be at this point last year. I don’t even know. Yeah, obviously that’s Keon’s not even starting on this team right now. No. No. And and this is what Scott Perry is having to deal with. this is the kind of the mess that he’s trying to clean up and that’s just that’s just the reality of of where we’re at right now. So, I think it was always going to be tough for for Devin to get playing time on this team specifically once they drafted Nick Clifford unless Nick Clifford ended up not being ready. I think leaving summer and seeing what Nick Clifford could do now you’re really wondering. All right. I don’t know where Devin where any of these guys are going to get time cuz they all kind of do the same thing. So Keon is at the top of that mountain for that help. But at least if you’re Nick, you can be used differently because you’re a little bigger than Keon and Devin. Devin is stuck between both because Nick can do what Devin does. I know Devon has a really long wingspan, but he can’t necessarily do all the things that Nick can do. He he he’s smaller and he’s just not as polished offensively. That’s just the reality. That’s not really his job. In a perfect world, Nick Clifford and Devin Carter are both playing, but that’s not really a world that exists in the NBA unless you have Shay Gilis Alexander as the other guard. That’s just and that’s not what the Kings have. So they can only have a couple guys like that and that redundancy kind of on the floor at the same time. So that is that that’s that’s just the reality of the situation. Uh we’ll get to more stock up, stock down, but uh we want to address the Ben Simmons rumor and what Carmichael Dave had to say on the morning show about it and what I’m hearing about it as well. Alan Styles, Saxon Sports. Sacramento weather is brought to you by Fidium

On today’s edition of The Allen Stiles Show, he discussed which Sacramento Kings players raised and lowered their stock throughout their 2K26 Summer League showing.

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