Was Trading for Lonzo Ball The BEST MOVE of the Cleveland Cavaliers’ Offseason?! | Dean Wade Rumors!
On today’s show, the Cavs off season isn’t over, but much of the moving and shaking is. So, how should we grade what Kobe Alman in the front office did this off seasonason? We’ll talk about that, plus the Dean Wade rumors that popped up on Monday. How should we look at that? Well, I’ll talk about that and so much more on today’s edition of Locked on Cavs. You are Locked On Cavs, your daily Cleveland Cavaliers podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network, your team every day. What’s up everybody? My name is Danny Cunningham. You might know me from my time covering the Cleveland Cavaliers, places like my Substack, The Inside Shot, Cleveland Magazine, 923 The Fan, and a number of other stops along the way. I want to say thank you to you for making Lockdown Cavs your first listen today and every day. You can find the show anywhere you get your podcast, Apple, Spotify, or anywhere else. Make sure to drop us a fivestar rating. Leave us a nice review. And of course, be a friend. Tell a friend about Locked on Calves. Make sure you’re subscribed. Make sure a friend is subscribed as well. And if you’re watching the show on YouTube as we get started here, do us a favor. Hit the thumbs up button for us. Click subscribe and hit that notification bell so you don’t miss the latest lockdown on Cavs content. A proud part of the Lockdown Podcast Network. Your team every day. The NBA offseason isn’t over. We still have a long time before basketball begins. We have right around 65 days until media day in late September, early October, maybe closer to 70 days. Don’t have the exact counter, but I know it’s in that range. And a lot of the moves that have are going to be made have been made. Now is the time of year when a lot of guys in front offices across the leagues are going on vacation. After summer league, there typically is a well. It doesn’t mean that all of the moves are done happening. There might be some big moves that still happen. If you think back to a couple of years ago, the Cavs made one of the biggest moves in franchise history in early September when they traded for Donovan Mitchell. But I would not be surprised if we go a little while now before something significant happens for the Cavs because, and I think that you can say that about a lot of different NBA teams. Of course, there are a few restricted free agencies that are still floating on around out there. The Cavs are not going to be involved in any of those. It’s not where they’re at financially right now. They cannot be in that space. So, for all intents and purposes, and I talked about the 14th roster spot on yesterday’s show and the Victor Oladipo stuff and who could potentially be the last guy that the Cavs sign, and you know, Naquin Tomlin might factor into that a little bit, and if so, the Cavs would then probably have two two-way slots to fill. I would imagine that they would like to fill their third two-way slot. Maybe that is something that does happen soon. But the majority of the significant moves for Cleveland’s off seasonason are over and done with. Their off season maybe isn’t 100% complete, but it’s like 85 to 90% complete in terms of what transactions have taken place versus are going to take place. So to recap what this offseason has been, the first move that the Cavs made was trading Isaac Aoro to the Chicago Bulls for Lonzo Ball. There was no draft compensation either way in that deal, which I certainly find very interesting and a good thing for the Cavs. They then signed Sam Merrill to a 4-year contract worth $38 million, I believe that final figure was. They signed Larry Nance Jr. to a veteran minimum contract, one year, $3.6 million. They allowed Tyome to walk in free agency where he joined the Memphis Grizzlies on a three-year deal worth, I believe, $27 million. really it is a two-year contract with a player option on the third year. They then drafted Tyrese Proctor number 49 overall. They drafted Salyang number 58 overall. Although Nyang is not going to factor into this season, so he really doesn’t um does not factor into this show because he does not have any effect on what the Cavs are going to look like next season. And then lastly, the most recent move that the organization made was extending Kobe Alman and the rest of his front office staff through the 2030 season. That is a pretty significant offseason. Now, the Cavs were never going to be a team in this space unless they wanted to trade Darius Garland or Jared Allen. One of which I thought would have been a good idea, one of which I would have thought was a bad idea. And if you listen to the show, you know where I come out on those two issues. But those for the Cavs to make a big move this summer, they were always going to have to part with something of big significance, right? It wasn’t they could not play in the Kevin Durant space where they could acquire Kevin Durant for not very much, which is exactly what the Houston Rockets did because they gave up Jaylen Green, who I don’t think is a very good player. Dylan Brooks is a fine player making a little bit of a bloated salary and they gave up the number 10 overall pick which originally was property of the Phoenix Suns and sent to Houston by way of Brooklyn in a different trade. The Cavs were not going to be able to compete in those spaces if they were going to make a big change to drastically turn over this roster. Darius Garland was going to need to be traded. Jared Allen was going to need to be traded. They were going to have have to look significantly different. So without making major changes, I do think it’s fair to evaluate in a positive way what this organization did. And of these six significant moves, and I will call extending Kobe Alman a a significant move, I think it’s hard not to like most of them. And I think the one that is the most controversial is the contract that Sam Merrill got when it is because I don’t think that is a move that can be looked at in a vacuum. I think you need to look at that Sam Merrill contract and say, “Okay, well, the Cavs to at least some extent picked Sam over Ty Jerome.” Because, as we know, after Sam signed that contract, um, or agreed to that contract, excuse me, not signed it, but agreed to it, the writing was pretty much on the wall that Ty Jerome was not going to be back in Cleveland, that he would be playing basketball next season somewhere else. So, with that in mind, I think that is the one that is most worthy of discussing first. I do want to get to all of them to some extent, but I I am very interested by how that process played out because Sam making that money I think is about right for him. It’s maybe a little bit more than I expected him to get. I thought he would be looking at a deal around 3 years $21 million or you know maybe four years 28 to $30 million because I did make the comment on this show that I expected Ty Jerome to get roughly twice what Sam Merrill was going to make and it turns out that those two guys were right in the same ballpark where Sam’s average annual contract is a little bit more than what Ty Jomes is. And I do think that the Cavs probably were operating in that same mind space. I think that they thought Tai was going to be able to get more than the $9 million he got. There was a rumor floating out there that there was a mid-level exception offer out there for Ty Drrome that obviously proved not to be true because if it were, Tai would be making $14 million this year. And Tai is not making $14 million this year. Now whether or not that was something that was said to the Cavs, I don’t know, but it was a rumor that various people heard. It was something that I kind of operated on. Okay, maybe the Cavs are not going to pay Tai that much money. And I don’t know that $14 million would have been a good price for him. I think the contract that he’s on with Memphis is a very fair one. But I do think too, and the one thing that after talking to people in Las Vegas last week at summer league, the one thing that I kept hearing about Sam’s contract is we sort of underplay the value of movement shooting, right? Because Sam is a very good shooter. I think he is probably the second best shooter on this team behind Darius Garland just from pure shooting ability from the outside. but his numbers aren’t going to reflect that because of the difficulty of shots that he’s taking. And he is the one of I think two guys on this roster that is somebody defenses are going to chase around very very and it’s a very hard thing to do. They’re going to chase him around. They’re not going to give him airspace and the Cavs are going to run him off the screens. They’re going to put him in different positions. He’s not just a shooter that is going to stand in the corner right now. Sam can do that, but Sam can do so many different things. And that is why he has such a significant gravity. The way that I look at Sam is a smaller version of how the Cavs when LeBron was here utilized Kyle Corver. Now, Corver was 6’7 or 6’8 and one of the best shooters in basketball history. I’m not saying that Sam is as good as Kyle was because I don’t believe that to be true. But I think the style of player in which they are is very similar. And that’s how I have I think you have to think about this where if you look at somebody like Isaac Aquaro for instance who did improve as a shooter was a standstill shooter and that is not nearly as valuable and that is kind of one of the things that I think when you think about the contract that Sam got. I do think that we need to be reminded of a little bit that movement shooting is just inherently valuable and that is part of what makes Max Shre valuable and of course Max is a little bit bigger than Sam and he does some of the connector stuff and and playmaking stuff that Sam certainly doesn’t do and that is why Max’s contract is much bigger than what Sam’s is. But I do think that is something that helps to explain exactly why Sam was able to get that amount of money. And I do think too, something I’ve touched upon pretty regularly since the Cavs made their moves is the Cavs want to be a two-way team. That I think is very clear in what they did this off season. And allowing Ty Jerome to walk, retaining Sam Merrill, who they view as a very good defender, maybe a little bit better of a defender than I view Sam, but he is certainly a much better defender than who Ty Jerome is on that end of the floor. They have become a more two-way oriented basketball team. So, while I don’t know that you want to necessarily give an A+ for the contract that Sam Merrill got, just like I don’t think you’re giving an A+ to Kobe Alman in the front office for picking Sam over Ty Drrome or just letting Ty Drum walk period, I do think it is something that is not a I don’t think it was a bad outcome for the Cavs. Tai had an awesome season. I think the contract Tai is on with Memphis is a very fair one. and I think that he’s going to have a very a very good time in Memphis and have a very significant role and play very well. I just do think that the Cavs for what they need to be in the postseason made the right decision there and I do think that is a move that certainly gets a passing grade. Now, my favorite move of the offseason, well, that was the trade the Cavs made. We’re going to talk about Lonzo Ball and Isaac being swapped next right here on Locked on Cavs. Today’s show is brought to you by Monarch Money. 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I think this was the best move Kobe Alman made and I think it is the one that could have the biggest impact on whether or not the Cavs win the title next June. And I think this because a lot of what I talked about with the Sam Merrill situation turning this turning one-way players which Tyrone was and Isaac Aurora was of course on different ends of the floor into two-way players. That’s what the Cavs did with this trait. Now, of course, there are risks that come along with Lonzo Ball being a significant part of your team because of all the injuries that he has dealt with. That is the thing that you need to say. That is the caveat that has to be given. Every time I talk about Lonzo Ball, I have to say if healthy because unfortunately that’s what his track record in the NBA has looked like. He has played 70 games over the last four years. But I think that of all the moves the Cavs could have made and all of the fake trades that were out there that included Isaac Auroro, because I know we talked about a lot of them and they floated around on social media for what felt like forever. I think this was the best one because it gives the Cavs a little bit of insurance in the backcourt spot with Darius Garland being a question mark with his injuries as well. It eliminates a one-way player from the rotation in favor of a two-way player from the rotation. And I think it adds I think the one thing that the addition of Lonzo Ball does, I’m not even talking about what Lonzo specifically does as a basketball player, but the addition of what his style is to the Cavs is it gives Kenny Atinson a lot more flexibility to be able to trot out different lineups and do things differently than what he was able to do last year. And I do think that last season Kenny was a very creative coach in terms of the lineups that he tossed out there. Um this the playing styles that which the Cavs would go to. And I do think that this can make some of those lineups more effective that can make some of those lineups more suitable on both ends of the floor. And my favorite example of this and the thing that I immediately go to with Lonzo being on the floor is I thought last year Kenny Atinson played Sam Merrill a little bit too much at small forward. Now Kenny when I have asked him about these types of things and I’ve asked him about DeAndre Hunter playing the four which I think he should play more three. Um Evan Mobley playing the five which I think is a very good thing. I’ve asked him about those things and his response has always been something along the lines of they don’t necessarily believe in positional restrictions. Like yes, certain guys have certain responsibilities and somebody like Jared Allen is never going to be confused for a small forward, but when you’re playing the wing, when you’re playing the two, three, or four, they don’t necessarily view that as a huge difference between things, right? that is not something that they look at and say, “Yeah, this is this is a big difference or their responsibilities are totally different.” But I do think it depends like who you’re guarding on the other end of the floor. And with Sam Errol playing the small forward as frequently as he did last year, it’s something that I look at and say, “Okay, well, I like the three guard lineups because I do think those those lineups are very effective.” But now with Lonzo Ball sliding into one of those guard slots, he is somebody that can defend small forwards certainly more effectively than how Sam Merrill can. And I think that this allows Sam Merrill to play in position more. And I think it allows the Cavs to be better on both ends of the floor because of that specific move. So if there is a move, there are two moves that I look at and say, you know what, Kobe Alman gets an A for this. I think this is one of them and I think this is the one I’m most confident he deserves an A4 because with Lonzo, he is somebody that can be an impactful playoff player. We have not seen it because he has not been healthy when his team has been in the playoffs before, but I do think that his playing style is something that should translate pretty well into the postseason. And I think being able to change out somebody who is not a playoff player in Isaac Auroro for somebody who is a playoff player in Lonzo Ball without having to give up any draft compensation should be viewed as a pretty significant win for Kobe Alman the Cavs and just the front office as a whole. So I think that is the move. If I’m going to give an A+ for any move, any transaction that the Cavs made this year, I think it’s that one. And the move that I think I like the next most is signing Larry Nance to a veteran minimum contract. And I talked to a lot of people in Vegas last week when I was there for summer league. And Larry Nance, the move to sign Larry Nance, while it’s not the flashiest move, it’s not the sexiest move. We’re talking about the third big man on our roster is one that a lot of people thought was a very good one. And if the Cavs were going to offer Larry Nance Jr. the minim minimum, which is the only thing they could offer him. He was going to always come back to Cleveland on a minimum before he went anywhere else on a minimum. And I do believe, and I don’t know where it I don’t know who offered it, but I do believe that Larry had offers above the $3.6 million he’ll be making from the Cavs this year. Now, I don’t know if it was the bannual exception or the taxpayer mid-level exception, but I do believe that he passed up on some money to be back in Cleveland because this situation is the one that he wants to be in. He wants to be home. He wants to be playing for this organization. And truthfully, after listening to what he said when he met with the media a couple of weeks ago, I don’t know that there has ever been anyone that has been happier to play for the Cleveland Cavaliers than Larry Nance Jr. I think that’s a really cool thing. Of course, that doesn’t win basketball games, but he does do things that I think can help the Cavs win basketball games. One of the biggest benefits to him, and this is something that I had talked about a lot because I really do believe in this from a roster building standpoint, I have thought the problem with Tristan Thompson as the third big didn’t actually have anything to do with Tristan Thompson. It had to do with the fact that he could only play center. It’s not that he’s not good. I mean, he’s not what he was, but at this point, he is a center only. And Larry Nch Jr. is somebody who I don’t view as a center. I think he can play alongside either Jarrett Allen or Evan Mobley. And I think that is a very important thing to remember when you look at this contract, when you look at this signing, because he’s somebody that I talked about flexibility, right, with the the Lonzo Ball trade. That is something that Larry Nance Jr. provides. He can provide more rotational flexibility than what Kenny Atinson had before. I don’t necessarily look at him as injury insurance partially because Jared Allen has for the most part been incredibly healthy over the past several years. Evan Mobley for the most part again has been very healthy at least this past year. Two years ago he was not. But I don’t necessarily look at him as that. I think he is somebody that the Cavs can use in a lot of different ways and I think that should be something that’s very very exciting. Now, the two other moves I wanted to talk about, I don’t have a ton of time to spend on because I do want to get to the Dean Wade rumors coming up in the next segment. Drafting of Tyres Proctctor at number 49 overall, I think was a great pick. Now, we have no idea if he’s going to work out. I don’t know if he’s going to be a good NBA player or not. Time will tell on that. But the fact they were able to get somebody who was a late first early second type of talent at number 49 overall because of um some you know Tyrese wanting to be in Cleveland because he wanted to be on a standard contract which is something the Cavs had to offer at 49 that not a lot of teams had and the fact that Proctor’s representation told other teams to not draft him so he could end up in Cleveland. I think that is a very very good thing and I think that is some some shrewd GMing by the Cavs if you will. And then lastly extending Kobe Alman. I think that stability is a very good thing in basketball. It is very difficult to be in one place as long as Kobe Alman has been, as long as Mike Ganszy has been, as long as a lot of the guys in this front office has been. That’s a challenge. And I do think that those guys, this front office, deserved to have their contracts extended through 2030. I think that they’re going to be around for a very long time. And I think it just is a testament to not necessarily what they have done this summer, but the way that they rebuilt the Cavs after LeBron left. The fact that they did not, and we have seen teams that will just toil in mediocrity forever. The Cavs had a few lean years as I think any organization would have when LeBron James left, but they have turned themselves back into a championship contender rather quickly all things considered and I think that certainly deserves a lot of credit. Now Dean Wade’s name popped up in the rumor mill on Monday. What should we make of it and what does it all mean? We’ll talk about that next right here on Locked on Caps. So, it was reported on Monday by Clutch Points that the Houston Rockets appro approached the Cleveland Cavaliers about trading for Dean Wade prior to the start of free agency. So, this is not a new thing. This is not, you know, the Rockets tried to trade for Dean Wade this week. This was something that happened prior to them signing Dorian Finny Smith to their full mid-level exception at the start of free agency a few weeks ago. So, I am truthfully a little bit surprised that Dean Wade is on the roster. I thought he is somebody that during free agency was a prime candidate on the Cavs to be traded. Now, I do think his salary complicates things a little bit and the fact that the Cavs are not able to aggregate salaries and trades also makes it a little bit complicated because he’s only making $6 million a year. And truthfully, there are not a lot of players that are better than Dean Wade or even as good as Dean Wade that are making $6 million per year. He is certainly, I think, underpaid on what his current contract is. Now, the other part of this rumor from Clutch Points is that the Rockets were willing to give Dean Wade an extension for the full mid-level exception. Now, I’m not sure that that would be allowed because of what he makes right now. And you’re only allowed to sign for so much more than what your previous contract was, unless you renegotiate and extend, which the Rockets are not in a position to do because of what they don’t have salary cap space, which you need to do in order to renegotiate and extend. Allah, what the Memphis Grizzlies did with Jiren Jackson Jr. this year. So, I’m not entirely sure how that would have worked, but I also did think about this and say, would Dean Wade make sense at the full mid-level exception? Now, if the Cavs do decide that the answer to that question is yes, they could give him next summer the full mid-level exception when he is a free agent. I would not anticipate that happening. I don’t think that he would. I do not think that the Cavs would give him that much money. And I don’t think truthfully for any team it would be smart business for Dean Wade to be on the books for $14 million per year. And I think Dean is a very good player. I think he is somebody that has kind of bounced between overrated and underrated throughout his career. It’s funny how that works that guys are very rarely ever properly rated. But Dean is a great defender. He is somebody that is very positionally flexible as I’ve talked about a lot in this episode with other guys. He can play the four, play the five, you can even play the three. But the thing that just often comes to my mind with him is that I do not think for as good of a shooter he is and as good of a defender as he is because he’s very good at both of those things. I don’t think he’s aggressive enough offensively to warrant the full med mid-level exception. And it’s not that he’s a bad player because he’s not a bad player. Dean is a very good player. It’s just that I think that if he were a more aggressive basketball player, and I don’t know what it’s going to take to bring that out in him because we haven’t really seen it yet. If Dean were a more aggressive basketball player, if he were somebody that was a more willing shooter for as good of a shooter as he is, and of course, nobody’s comparing him to Sam Merrill or, you know, as I talked about earlier, Kyle Corver Allen, like that’s not the type of shooter he is. He’s a 36% three-point shooter, 37% three-point shooter for his career. But the issue is that he’s a good shooter that doesn’t take enough of them. That is the problem with Dean Wade. When you look at it right now, per 36 minutes, he’s only taking 6.4 threes per game this past year. And in his position, that needs he that number needs to be closer to eight or nine. He needs to be shooting the basketball much more frequently than he does because if you watch the Cavs, you know that teams will ignore Isaac Auroro when he was on the team offensively because he’s not a good shooter and they’re fine with him taking those shots. There are teams out there and this is not every team. This is not as a uh this is not as drastic or as visible I think as the Aoro stuff, but I do think if you watch the Cavs when Dean Wade is on the floor offensively, you’ll notice, and you do have to watch close to see this, teams will not be super aggressive in the way that they defend Dean Wade. Now, why is that? It’s because he’s not aggressive enough as a shooter. It’s because they don’t necessarily believe that he’s going to catch the ball, go up, and shoot it quickly. that he’s somebody that I think is a little hesitant sometimes to make decisions on the floor. And I just don’t know if that is something that is that is good enough, right? Like I think that if he were more aggressive, if he were less hesitant, he’d be worth full mid mid-level exception without a shadow of a doubt. But I just don’t know that he’s a useful enough offensive player in the postseason because of that hesitancy to really warrant that sort of deal. I would be surprised if he gets that amount of money next year and if he does, good for him. But I just don’t know that the Cavs should be in that sort of business when they are financially in the spot that they are right now. I do wonder too what was talked about coming back from Houston in that potential deal. The big issue with it is, as I mentioned, Dean Wade only makes $6 million. So, you have to look at the Houston Rockets roster and say, “Well, they’ve got some good players that would certainly make a lot of sense in a trade for Dean Wade, but how many of them make $6 million or less?” That ultimately is something that I do think probably stopped Dean Wade from getting traded. Not that he made too much money, that he didn’t make enough money for the Cavs to find a real partner. So, at this point, I would expect Dean Wade to be on the Cavs when the season opens up. And thank you for making today’s edition of Locked on Cavs your first listen. 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On this episode of Locked On Cavs, Danny Cunningham (The Inside Shot, Cleveland Magazine, 92.3 The Fan) grades the Cleveland Cavaliers’ offseason moves. He analyzes key transactions, including the Isaac Okoro for Lonzo Ball trade, Sam Merrill’s four-year contract, and Larry Nance Jr.’s return. Cunningham explores the potential impact of these moves on the Cavs’ two-way play and postseason prospects. He discusses the strategic value of Merrill’s shooting, Ball’s playmaking versatility, and Nance’s positional flexibility. The podcast also touches on Dean Wade trade rumors and the front office’s contract extensions. Cunningham provides insights on how these offseason decisions align with the Cavaliers’ goal of becoming a more balanced and competitive team in the upcoming season.
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5 Comments
Hey Danny…we just gave Sam 10 mill a year for 4 GUARANTEED years!
When DG and DM are jacking up tons of shots…it's hard for anyone to get shots! Mobley doesn't get enough touches and he's the FRANCHISE!
The Fact that the Rockets were going to make a trade for him….should be a wake up call! We just WAY overpaid Sam…Sorry…4 Guaranteed years??? No team options????????
If Cavs could have kept Ty for Memphis money – I think they will regret not having him – Merrill deal was year too long for me – especially with no options – older guy, average defender and one dimensional offense – it a valuable skill – but movement 3 pt is pretty much his whole bag – but Cavs off season solid otherwise
You can try to convince me until you are blue in the face why the Cavs resigned Merrill over Jerome, but Jerome is the better player and Altman messed up. The fact the Cavs gave Merrill as much as they did means we have to watch more Merrill not being able to get his shot off in the playoffs. Now I have to hope Jerome becomes Lester Hudson in Memphis. Good with the Cavs but not with the Griz.