Tony Allen joins the show | Chris Vernon Show

Tony Allen joins the show | Chris Vernon Show

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[Music] [ __ ] No sexy, but I can still get down. [Music] Here we go. It’s noon on garage media.com. Chris Far show. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. It’s a Tuesday, July 22nd, 2025 edition of the show. Today on the show, the grandfather Tony Allen, the Hall of Famer, the Tennessee Sports Hall of Famer, joining us in studio as he does on Tuesdays. He is back from what has been an incredibly long week and a half in Las Vegas and then Nashville. We will get to everything that happened over the course of the last week and a half. In addition to that, we’ll get to all the news and notes today, including some NBA notes, some NFL notes that we got to get to. It is a Tuesday. It’s hot outside, but smile. Let’s do it. Turn it up. [Music] Feels right. Instead of waiting for the next big thing to strike, stop your mouth. Get out of the house. Get yourself down and shake. [Applause] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, I hope everybody’s having a good day. All right, ton of stuff to get to on the show today. Not the least of which is Tony Allen joining us in studio back from his week and a half out of town with a bunch of big events that went on. Before I get to anything, welcome John Roser to the show. John Roser, aka the Cologne Ranger, the body spray bandside, Johnny Bagpole, Johnny Bearcat, the Grim Roser, John asparagus, Johnny Nearb, John Lance, he’s Yogi Roser, he’s Dr. Thunder. Hello, John. What up? What up? What up? I’ve already started looking at trade proposals. See who the uh what the Cowboys can get for Michael Parsons out there. Devin Walker’s here. He’s the microphone mangler. Senor Quasadilla, Mr. Math, Navajo Joe, the reporter, the photographer. He’s your He’s Walker 93. How you doing? Good people, man. You know, I’m I’m I’m sitting next to a Hall of Famer today. I feel I feel good. I feel great. I feel honored. And for the first time, we can say a Tennessee sports hall of famer. Tony Allen, the grindfather is here as he is on Tuesdays. This has been a long week, I guess, two weeks, week and a half for the Grindfather. All right, let’s go through it. Yeah, they gave me that hat. You got this. It’s a members only hat. You bought that at a You bought that at a gas station for sure. Got that on a gas station. Gift shop. A pack of white t-shirts and that hat. Which mapco? Which mapco did you get that hat? Members only. That is not the green jacket. You acting like you got you got the green jacket of the M. Respect on my name, bro. It a members only. That is not members only. I can let you put it on. Are you the only member? 101. Is he the only member? Shout out to Brad. My boy them there. Brad Wayne, man. Appreciate y’all, man. Y’all put on a great show, man. Remember their name. Much love, man. Yeah, man. Remember their names. Before we get into what took place over the weekend in Nashville. Let’s head back to Vegas. So, we left you on uh we we left you on Monday after we did the show, but then you stayed in Las Vegas. This was 4 days. So, how did Las Vegas go after we left? Oh, it as ridiculous as when we were there. Listen, it didn’t get easier because you had the you had the KG certified crew come in. Oh, no. And once the KG certified crew come in, it was no turning down. I was trying to recover. I was trying to, you know, and um What did Kevin do? He There’s no way Kevin stayed at a hotel. No, no. They had a nice They had like a He rented a mansion. They had a little like Disneyland. Oh, for real. Yeah, Kevin Garnett is not staying in a hotel, brother. It was pretty slick. It was pretty slick. This guy made like a billion dollars. Yeah, I bet. I bet. So, how far away from the strip was it? I want to say about maybe 25, 30 minutes. Of course. I bet the talent in there was Hall of Fame. Oh, I bet some Hall of Fame. I bet some Hall of Fame talent in that. How fast did you have to get out of the KG party? Yeah, bro. Well, I had, you know, I had to get I had to prepare for the acting uh documentary. You went to Okay. So, your documentary was part of the film festival that they showed at Resorts World at Zuk Nightclub, right? And that was uh what’s the guy’s name that does it with uh you know, the guy that’s run uh Summer League for since the beginning of time? What’s that guy’s name? Warren Legary. Warren. Warren. His his right-hand man is the one that runs the the film fest, right? Yes. Yes, indeed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, is it a different movie every night or is there a couple movies that show? No, it’s so each day is a different setting. It’s a different documentary or a different movie. So, your night when What is it? What What happens? They just show it at the nightclub. So, yeah, basically um we rented out the nightclub you just explained and um they showed so much love. They had food, you know. Um special guest came. Kevin Garnett obviously he showed up. Yeah. Taan Prince came, showed up. You know what I’m saying? I heard Jay Jaylen Wells is there too. Wasn’t it? Jaylen Wells was there. You know what I mean? I I had some good support in the building. You know what I mean? Oh, that’s cool. Uh free food, free drinks, you know. It was it was a put on for TA. You know, they they showed love and they showed the whole movie. They showed the whole movie. Wow. In in the club. But see, this is what Blevins did. Bleven put some of that unseen footage in there. Oh. Oh. Mike Mike Bleven, the director of the movie. So like he he even had highlights I was looking at I’m like damn that wasn’t on the last this was the director’s cut. Director’s cut exclusive. Okay. Yeah. So and he and he the way he mixed it up. If you if you know you know you have to watch it but for the most part we got to see the director’s cut now. Yeah. We’ll get the clips that were in the director’s cut. Yeah. It was pretty cool man. I I think MB did his thing on that one. And uh like I said I had a good time man. And then what did they do for the like did you have to talk? Oh yeah, I talked I did some Q& A’s after. Um Q&A king. Yeah, I’m Q&A king. Uh Bl wanted me to say a few words, but I opened it up and it was a lot of people that was in there from Chicago. Showed me told me I need to come back home and you know talk to the youth and this that and the other. I They got a lot of business cards. Let’s just say really. Oh, they trying to tap in with you. Big event. Yeah, big event. It was decent. It was big. It was decent for me. I mean, you know, I was I was in my glory. I was That’s awesome. Soaking it in your story here. I mean, it’s awesome. NBA Summer League and they’re showing the movie about you at a nightclub, too. Is it weird watching the movie? Have you watched it outside of the first night that we saw the premiere? No. Look, uh, I teared again. Like each time I watch it, I tear. I like, “Oh, what makes you emotional when you watch?” when I when I when I go over to the part where you know my mama would get on the screen and she in her house you know that I paid for and bought you know that was one of my dreams you know what I’m saying just to get out of them projects and just to see that part and see her on the big screen talking about her baby it’s just I kind of get one of the times I got emotional honestly like during during that movie now that you mentioned that is when they show the house and all of your family is over there including your daughter and your grandchild. And they he the camera pans to all of the diplomas because because the the story has already been set that that’s a big deal to your mom and nobody has gotten one. And then you see all of the diplomas and and then your sister come your sister comes on and she’s emotional giving you credit saying he made all this happen. and then be and it was like it was like this full circle of Tony made it and it all of our lives benefited from this, right? Like it wasn’t just like Tony made it and then we all had to keep on struggling. It was Tony made it and look what happened because and then all of a sudden you see all of the diplomas that are there from you and your sisters and the rest of the family. It’s crazy to watch at that time. It’s like that is like a a true success story is what I’m trying to say, right? Like that’s a real that’s true success because those are the people that nobody knows is your family cuz they’re not famous, right? So they don’t know that happened and then they hear not only did this guy make it out of the circumstances cuz we, you know, we get taken from the story. We They show where you live at the when you’re growing up and then they show your mom’s house and then they show all of these diplomas and it’s like, “Wow, dude. Wow. This is man, out the mud.” Yeah. Out the mud. Out the mud. You just took me back just thinking about crazy. But that was that was definitely one of the things my mama preached like, you know, get education. Go ahead, get the highest diploma we can get. She like, I got my masters. I need y’all to fall in line. And everybody fell in line. And also, I can imagine you getting emotional about the mom thing because she’s the only reason that happens because if it wasn’t for her, you would have who knows what your life would have become, honestly. Like, who know who knows? You I mean, obviously, she I mean, there’s the there’s the whole story that’s in the movie of her showing up at your school because you’re shooting dice at school, right? Like, so if she wasn’t a mom that cared that greatly about you doing the right thing, Yeah. I’d have been I’d The hood would have took me under for sure. For sure. And instead she does. And then it leads to obviously then every your sisters that came after you obviously everybody then becomes successful. It’s kind of wild. Did everybody did everybody love the movie? Yeah, they they they loved it. You got a stand. You got a standing ovation. Yeah, standing ovation. Yeah. Big round of applause for the grandfather. And uh I think one of the questions was, “How the hell you get the grandfather name?” That was a question. That was a question at the Hall of Fame, too, when he when he shook your hand and said, “Hi, grandfather.” Grandfather. Grandfather. Hi. Here’s here’s the real question. How much Don Julio was taken in in Vegas after we left? Oh man. Did it get worse or did it get lighter? Somebody in Vegas. Oh, you scary hours, huh, man? I I don’t want no more tequila for the next 6 months. Yeah, you probably drank enough for the last That’s how That’s how I You only did it for two nights and he talking about that. That’s not true, bro. How many nights did you drink while we were gone, bro? Fried like fry gone. No, no, that’s just bad. I was piping down when we left. Sunday night. I was turning down Sunday night of summer league and then his Hall of Fame. Honestly, it’s just the nights I was with him. I mean that’s true. Yeah. You did tell us you’re never hanging out with him again. I did. I can’t do it. He said in Nashville he had a rough time in Nashville cuz he said he can’t do it anymore. You pressured him into taking shots. Sure did. Chris Veron was definitely like take a shot you was bad. You was bad on me, bro. No. No. What? That’s a reverse. No, reverse. No, you ain’t even. You were bad on me. I I kept trying to say Oh, come on. You were bad on him. I kept trying to say no. He was trying to get out of it. You were like, you like Chris Barton, take a shot. I have Chris Martin. Bro, it was Hall of Fame night, bro. It was I know. And it was fireball. I’ve been I’ve been out drinking with Chris several nights and I have He has never been one. We most of the time we’ve had He’s never been one that takes shots. What was that? We had He had fireball. Fireball. I thought it was a Jagger. Fireball. We took Tequila. He took fireball and I had drank that pino noir at our table at the Hall of Fame. We was clowning everybody. You can’t drop Fireball on top of Pino Noir. That ain’t it. Was not it. He was trying to No. Wait, is it I know you like I know you didn’t have the jersey time last year. You had the the the Tennessee Hall of Fame this year. You had the summer league thing. Is it like dope to see all the love you still get like even though all this kind of happen? Like is like is it like weird cuz we were walking down Broadway folks are like, “Hey, first team. Yo, is that Tony Allen? That that was that was that was funny when we were downtown in Nashville. So, is it is it like is it weird? Like how like how would you kind of describe the love you’ve been getting like the last couple weeks? Uh I mean I’m accepting my flowers, you know. I’m holding above dozens, you know, just just, you know, just walking with stride, man. Keeping my head up high, man. You know, and uh it came full circle looking at everything come back full circle rather. Um it’s it’s surreal, man. It’s one of those feelings like, dang, I ain’t know this much love was going to come my way and I’m accepting and I’m taking it all in. And and you know what? I mentioned this yesterday when we came back. That Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame was a way bigger deal than I thought it was. Yeah. You said that at the table, dude. There was like a thousand people at that game. It was huge. It was a m that was a big event. And there were like all manner of people that matter in Tennessee sports were all there. Even Phil Fulmer was at the table next time. We were like, “What in the world?” Rick Barnes. Rick Barnes was there. Ryan Silverfield was there. Like all kinds of coaches. I wanted to say what up to Rick Barnes too before he left. Cuz before my senior year, he said it in the paper, but my senior year he said Tony Allen hands down the is the reason they won. No, the the reason his team won’t succeed this year because of Tony Allen. He’s hands down MVP of all. Well, I don’t know if you got Did you guys see this? Uh that’s cuz Rick Barnes knows ball but they gave they gave they gave player of the year to my my good friend John Lucas. Yeah, he got it in the newspaper. You see what I’m saying? But the coaches voted me. So I was like, how do did we share it? Like you know I hung out with I don’t know how that works. I hung out Hey, I hung out with Lucas at that uh NBA party. Yeah, he was there. I know. I saw him. I saw Oh, you did? Yeah, I saw him. Talked to him brief. Yeah, you know, Kevin M. Oh, really? Okay. Hold on. I I don’t I want to give credit where credit is due because I want to uh It was It was Drew Hill. It was our buddy Drew Hill that wrote the article and the headline was I showed this to you the other night at the Hall of Fame. Does Jamai Mack compare to Tony Allen? Here’s what Rick Barnes said. And in the course of that article, um, cuz there he’s t cuz obviously Barnes coached against you when he was at Texas and you were at Oklahoma State and obviously, uh, Barnes just coached, uh, Mhack at the University of Tennessee. And Mhack has been eusive and praise and talked about how much he’s watched you and thought highly of you. And, uh, Barnes said, “You know, I coached against Tony Allen when I was at Texas and he was at Oklahoma State. I’m not into comparing players, but I can just tell you th this about where you can compare them. If I were to coach against Jamaak like I did against Tony Allen, I can assure you after the game you would be saying, “I want that guy on my team.” You just know some way or somehow those type of guys help you win games. Even if you want to bring up whatever their deficiencies are, the pluses far outweigh the areas that people may tear apart. the biggest reason you could compare them is because they both understand where they are good. And he goes on and he says, “Bnes also pointed out similarities between Allen and Machak’s early college seasons and how they went underappreciated despite making winning defensive plays. We lost the big 2004 Big 12 championship game because of Tony Allen. We had a guy named Brandon Muton who was a tremendous player. Tony just locked him up and Brandon was a tough hard-nosed guy. Jamai has some of that. They know that that that what they might do. Uh maybe not be the most glamorous basketball, but they understand the importance of it. It says a lot that they are secure enough in themselves to say, “Hey, this is what I do and I’m going to be the best at it.” And then uh it says to ask Mhach to be Allen, a player with his number hanging in the rafters is ludicrous. Barnes made that clear. But then he goes, he says, way being a great defensive player is what he cares about doing and being great cardio, great toughness, all of those things. But um there it was. He was asked I mean so it’s I wish you we would have gotten catch up with him as well uh the other night cuz that article had just come out and where he had oddly just talked about you because of this kid that the Grizzlies drafted with the last pick of the draft uh Mhack who did make a great impression on us during summer league during summer had a great you had a great show you know and uh Brandon Muton. Yeah, Brandon Mutan suffered a small case of uh I’m on your ass by Tony Allen. Uh and hey man, uh it’s one of those situations. He said we had a tremendous player named Brandon Mutan and Tony locked him up. Yeah, man. And I I used to get up for that game. I’m talking about because they had you got to figure they had Rael Ivy, they had PJ Tucker. Yeah. And Baron Mutan. I’m like, “Oh, they tough.” But that it just turned me to another turned my savage up. You know what I’m saying? Every time. It’s kind of crazy though that Rick Barnes like that’s 21 years ago. Remember last forever. I mean and he’s like we lost the Big 12 championship game because of Tony. Impact like damn dog. Impact lasts forever bro. You know how many games Rick Barnes has coached in since 2004? Impact lasts forever bro. Remember remember it forever like it’s yesterday. No, he remembers it like it was yesterday. He probably can give you a playbyplay of the plays you broke down. Listen, listen, listen. They and how mad he was at Brandon Mut for getting locked up. No, they had No, they had a [ __ ] talkinger in and Royale Ivy. Oh, okay. Royal Ivy was talking so much smack. I’m like, it’s no way I’m not gonna bone these guys. It’s no way. I’m talking about they took turns, too. Mutan, PJ, uh, all of them. All of them. Hey, I was cold, bro. That’s got That’s got to feel unbelievable, though, for a college coach to remember 21 years later, not only that you cost him a championship in the in the conference, but also the exact guy that you locked up. It’s crazy. You know what I mean? That was I got to go back and find that game because it’s got to be the most impactful thing ever, right? Yeah. Because that kid that kid was one of the best players in the conference. Yeah, we beat him. I beat him in the uh I beat him for the conference record. He had to win in the I won the I beat him for that regular season title and the conference title and the conference title. So playoff. So you were the thorn in the side. Yeah, he and obviously you won. But man, you got to realize Eddie Sutton didn’t play that man. We was going over like shootaround felt like the NBA playoff finals. I ain’t going to lie. Every it was intense for coach. So blame it on coach, man. Coach had me fired up. Do you think he would think all of this is crazy? Coach who? Sutton. Your number going in the rafters, you getting inducted into the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame. Do you think he would think all of this is crazy? Man, rest is soul, man. I I tell you what, man. He’ll be somewhere right now saying, “Tony, just give me a hug. You need a hug.” He always hug. You need a hug? Then he give me the hug. We get in practice. I’m like, “Yeah, coach. All right with me.” “Yeah, me and coach, we cool.” Yeah. Tony, get your ass on the baseline. I like I need a hug. I thought I needed a hug. Like it’d be that type of energy. He was always trying to give you a hug. Yeah. He’d be like, he’d be like, “Give me a hug.” And I be all right. But I’m He don’t know if he even said that. I’m looking at him like, “Damn, what he about to say now? What he about to say now?” And then he’ll switch it up. You were scared of him. Yeah, I was scared of coach, bro. Sometimes what it need to be, bro. Sometimes what it needs to be. Hey, folks ain’t scared of coaches no more. TA. his game has changed. You think it all happened because you played for him? Well, for sure. I I I mean, you got to realize like my Cuz you had only played at Jo and then I get on I’m looking like, okay, this is where I’m getting notorized at. This is where my TV games I’m getting played on national TV. Now I’m he I earned the playing time. He said if I earn it, he’ll give it to me. He gave it to me. I asked him, could I get to the league if I come here? He was like, if you listen, I listened. You performed. I performed. You know, we always talk about like those sliding doors moment. Come on, man. You think it would have happened if you wouldn’t have gone there? No, I don’t know. I don’t think so. You don’t? I don’t think so. All this would not happen. Like we always talk about like, you know what I mean? Like we talk about this with rookies and like there’s a lot of these guys even that just got drafted, right? And it’s just going to be the wrong spot, right? It’s going to be the wrong spot for them to develop. And it’s like what it depending on where they got drafted may actually dictate what career they end up having cuz it be it be a lot going on in them towns too. You could like um like a lot of times I used to I used to while people were going out for that Saturday and go to that football game and go hang out and drink beers and whatever. Me and John Lewis would be in the gym because you had him there as well. Like we So that happened too, right? Where he had gone from Baylor and he Yeah. But but he his his game was so efficient. He was hitting threes. He was shooting like he like even when he when he trained, I’ll be seeing him hit eight, nine, 10 in a row, he’ll be telling me, “Ain’t all this pro [ __ ] This this this this pro shit.” And I just try to get right on that regimen except I’m about to take it to a whole another level. And he’s mega responsible guy and his dad’s hardcore. Yeah. And and I loved it. It kind of rubbed off on me, right? Like I was like, I really appreciate John Lucas coming at you. You know what I’m saying? I think your boy work for the Aces now, bro. Doing player player development. Yep. Doing player development. So super dope. He definitely always around the game. He I mean his knowledge He’s working in the WNBA. He works for the Aces. Oh wow. He he he know every drill in He’ll be a lifer. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Going to always be around the game. He’ll be and nothing he gonna not do don’t involve the game. But you really think that maybe if he don’t go to Oklahoma State from that Jo the story’s completely different. It was completely different. I completely I think I put my name on the map. Like I say and maybe Eddie Sutton was just the perfect coach at the perfect time. He had a lot of like I mean but Eddie Sutton’s the kind of guy that could deal with your personality and deal with the edgy guys, right? You know what I’m saying? The one the ones that were not right the the not the country club kids. No. Right. Like Eddie Sutton is one of those guys that could deal with any kind of personality. He’s shooting it to you straight. Yeah. Like it’s no sugar coating it. He going to show you some love. He going to butter you up and then he cursing your ass out right after. Right after that. That ain’t the way you do it. He letting you know. But from that point forward, you know, okay, in order to shut his ass up, let me set this hard screen. Cut hard, L cut to get open, swing through, drive baseline, and get the pass to the other side. Now, if I get ripped or anything, turn over anything, you know, coach won’t be coach. to me like those guys like that like that is forget all the championships and what everybody talk like to me the fact that like if I talk to you, if I talk to Lucas, if I talk to the Grams, if I talk to they everybody swears by the guy. No, like every player loved Eddie Sutton. Loved him. Loved him. whether it was a father figure, a grandfather figure, whatever you want to call it, it was like they loved this guy and he like had an impact on all of them. I you could probably find a player that didn’t like him that played for him. Not sure if they but I’m saying of the ones that I’ve come across like that to me that’s coaching when your players are like swearing by you till the end of time that’s like that’s most of the old school old school like that the coach Ks the Tom Isos the Eddie Sutton’s right how many can truly have that how many can truly have that impact where it’s like dude you actually change people’s lives like Tony Allen has got his number in a raft that was in Memphis and is in the Tennessee sports hall of fame now and it’s like and you’re here saying probably doesn’t happen if I don’t play for Eddie Sutton. Yeah. No, for sure. That’s crazy because there’s a lot of guys it doesn’t matter who they play for. I mean, no, in fairness, it doesn’t matter who freaking Zion Williamson played for in college. What does that matter? I mean I mean you I mean looking at it, you know, from another lens, a lot of those coaches that I was fortunate enough to play under, Doc Rivers, too. Yeah. Doc Rivers flat out told me, “You want a 10 year career, you need to focus key in on this end of the floor.” Flat out. You know what I’m saying? And you get And you think you were willing to listen to that because of the torn ACL? Do you wonder if you would have been receptive to that if you hadn’t torn your ACL? Do you think you would have had visions of still being a big time player? I never thought that. That’s a good question. Yo, let me get my FGAs up, bro. I can still bounce like I can I can bounce just like the rest of But the fact that it got ripped away from you and then you’re more apt once you’ve been humbled, you’re more apt to realize, okay, if I want this to work, this is how I’m going to have to survive, right? No, for sure. You definitely turn into survival mode once you get an injury. That’s scary. But I ain’t going to front before cuz it because you realize it moves on without you, bro. Yeah. Right. If unless you’re unless you’re John Morant, the world keeps turning. No, for sure. And and beforehand, I was more so like a I was always been a a piece to a puzzle cuz they was always flexing the fact that Al Jeff was was supposed to be a lottery pick. So, we going to go through Al Jefferson. Right. Right. So, it was like, all right, okay, cool. Well, I’m cool with Al. That’s my homeboy, right? Well, I’mma show him I’m just as good as to stay with Al. You get what I’m saying? working on my game, coming in late, doing all the, you know, the political stuff and staying fit. And once they gave us the key, Paul Pierce was always there. Yeah. But he remember he had hurt himself. He had hurt himself. So that was my time right then and there like, you know, I’m an offensive guy. Give me the ball. Matter of fact, let me start at the two with Pete. Before we know it, you know, everybody was gone. Like Will Smith. Let me see what y’all got. Oh, look at TA. Nice. Al Jefferson. Nice. had their ass in a trick bag ready to trade them right after they come in the locker room. But then he Doc Rivers tells you you’re not going to have a career if unless you realize Yeah. this is this is how or better yet this is how you’re going to have a double digit career. Look beforehand he was telling me I need to focus on that. When he first when I first came when Ray Allen and Paul and Tik got to the team he said just look around. Where do you belong on the court? where do your shots where you think you going to get some shots at? And I looked at it and I said, “You right.” So, you need to be doing the things that they not doing. Well, just to put this into perspective because I heard this again this past week. I told you guys when we were there, you know, you think about the the the bottom level of the FedEx Forum and then the club level, right? That’s 8,000 people. The upper deck is 10. That’s the 18,000 seat arena. So the bottom bowl is eight, including the club level, right? You couldn’t come close to filling that up with the amount of players that have ever put on a NBA uniform. There’s only 5,000, less than 5,000 that have ever worn an NBA uniform. And I think when I read this past week, it’s like half that have put it on a second time for a second year. Yep. That play. That’s a few players. Now take the amount that have played double digit seasons and and look put and even double on on on that. Your boy Chris Paul about to play 22. The numbers probably less than that. Like he about to play 22 this year. Oh dude, their team listen to this uncuction, bro. It’s real auction. Hold on. All the oldheads T linking up. Hold on. Where is this? I got it written down. I just saw that meme too. Shout out to the man. Hey, Kawi 34, Harden 36, Beal 32, auction, man. CP3 is 40, Brook Lopez is 37, and Nicholas Batum is 37, man. Got the Church. That is crazy. Squad. We got to get you a contract, bro. Yo, was it Was it last year that we after we traded smart, we did not have a player that was 30 years old? We didn’t have a player 30. They got six that are over 32, bro. They got to play a bulk of their minutes, too. All these guys, they got old as hell. Got plenty Ben Gay in their pocket. I’m talking about what’s wild. They got the IC all this. What’s wild is I was talking this morning when I was recording with Jacobe, bro. Like I always will think about Chris Paul as a Clipper because we covered those series between you and Chris Paul and the rest of the group. Mhm. That’s forever ago. Right. You’re right. You’re right. You’re right. So long ago, bro. I think but I think this year and he’s playing for the Clippers again. Yeah. He’s playing He going back to the ex-girlfriend, bro. After playing for the Thunder, the Rockets, the Warriors, the Spurs. too. Going back to the This ain’t going this ain’t I mean this just a farewell tour. This ain’t no You think the Clippers really about to be a contender? You know what? Oh, he throwing lobs to John Collins and Derek Jones Jr. remix the live season. They’re going to be good. Ta. Come on now. Hey, Brian Winh. I’m trying to get his jersey when he come. Brian Hey, Brian Winhorse went on the air today. You got to get that jersey. Brian Winhorse went on ESPN this morning and he’s like there’s games where he won’t play. Yeah. He’s like, “It’s just going to be Harden and Chris Dunn.” He’s out. He’s like, “But this is going to be like a plugandplay thing.” Yeah. But he’s going to be there. You know what, dude? I When I see Lillard putting that Portland jersey back on and Chris Paul putting that Clippers jersey back on. I know, Mike. Let’s run it back one. Hey, one last year. Come home back 11. Hey, let’s finish it off. Come home back 11. Look, we got a spot right next to Jaw. Why not? Hey, make the phone call. Hey [ __ ] we going we going to install another mic right now next episode. Yeah. Put back a level right here, man. Cuz that’s cuz what? This will be the last year in Minnesota, right? This is the last year in Minnesota. Yeah. And then just end it how it should end. Just hold. Damn. That end it how it should end. Sure would. Cuz Zebo, wouldn’t that be cool? Cuz Mark Mark the Yeah, he signed a three. Yeah, this is the last. This is actually great because because they didn’t get to end their careers like Tony was in New Orleans, Zebo was in sack. Mark got a chip in Toronto, but like he Mark signed here. Yeah, he signed here for that day. Yeah, but we need that full circle moment, bro. We need Well, I mean, you’re seeing it all over the league. Yeah, we need that, bro. Hey, and then Philip Rivers just did it yesterday with the Chargers. I know. Signed a one-day contract with the Chargers. And then and then we get to the playoffs and play the Clippers and we see Mike Connley guarding Chris Paul. Yeah. And we run it back like all time. Put in a wheelchair. It is unbelievable. How many years? That’s what that’s at least 10 years ago for sure. Yes. It was 13, right? Yeah. 12 years ago. Okay. 12. It was 2013. Yeah. 12. 12 years ago. Well, two years in a row, right? 12 and 13. 13. 12 and 13. 12 and 13. We played them three times, didn’t we? Twice. 12 and 13. They beat us in the game seven and then we ran off four straight again. Four straight the next year. Okay. Okay, so the game seven was the weird one here on a Sunday afternoon. That it’s crazy. That was unbelievable. It’s crazy that was a two-year stretch and it felt like it was like a rivalry over like a fiveyear stretch. It was How is he still playing? I give him so I give Chris last year. He did. He played all 82 last year. I give him so much credit cuz like in the league now it’s like all big guards and he stood long for being 5′ 11, crafty. He not athletic. You better not tell that man he fab. That man know he’s 6 feet. He ain’t he ain’t six feet though. As a man who sits around who’s 5’9, he is not 5’9. Like I’m He’s It’s amazing how he stuck around so long. You know what’s crazy? And SGA talks about this and I don’t know if SGA has adopted his but like SGA talked so much about how not only the offthe court stuff with the family and everything like that, but like the training regimen and the stretching and the nutrition and Paul went vegan like a long time ago. I don’t know if he still is. Yeah, he probably But that was a thing about him. Yeah. Right. Like to get rid of all the inflammation and all the stuff and it’s like I don’t know, man. Maybe some guys should start picking up on his now. I mean, can you imagine going vegan? That’d be terrible. Yeah. Yeah. You’d be screwed, bro. No. Since 2019. Yeah. You came in here when me and Alexis used to do that vegan corner and you couldn’t. You were like, “No whatsoever, bro. No whatsoever.” And just to see his long It’s unbelievable how long he been playing is also Also, what is your excuse if this son of a [ __ ] can stay healthy for 82 years, bro? Hey, longevity is crazy, bro. His regimen I’m 39 years old. And then he do a lot of pounding and you know, he he Yeah. He’s not like some kind of he ain’t no right no stand in the corner, catching, shooting, three. This guy sometimes he might pressure the ball 94 feet groovy, but I think he I think he’s a Hall of Famer hands down. first ballot and uh he he he done a lot for this game. You think it’s going to I I I expressed my discontent with having to see Marcus Smart in a Lakers jersey. That’s terrible. Yeah. As a Celtic as a Celtic TA. Doesn’t that feel wrong? Listen, listen. Every time I see a signing go with the Lakers, the next day I see LeBron James partying. That is a fact. He was he was in Cabo with uh Jeff Bezos yesterday. Like he don’t give a flying you get know what I’m saying about what’s going on this off seasonason. He’s playing his last year and uh I think it’s going to be two farewells we I just don’t want to see standing ovations for Marcus Smart in Los Angeles. That’s going to you know he’s going to get him when he dives on the floor, right? Y’all don’t really appreciate that grind like that. He is the standing ovation guy. Oh god. If you would have ever I I mean I hated it with Mark. Well, I I tell you this as someone who rooted for Mark assult when Mark played there. I was like, “This is disgusting.” Yeah. I can’t take this. I hated it. I’m so glad you didn’t go to Lakers today. Thank you, bro. Oh my god. I would like You got You You ever thought about it? No. Kobe Kobe called him. He did. I had a chance. He did. Gosh. I had a chance to go play with Kobe. Yeah. Kobe. You know what I’ve noticed? You would have did it, huh? No. I wouldn’t have did it. Hey, you know what I’ve noticed? Cuz I love Memphis. Do you know what I And that’s why I had to tell him. Oh, shut up. I had to talk you out of going to freaking Milwaukee, dumbass. Man, that was that that was would have been the option. You would have gone to Milwaukee. It was me and OJ. It been me and OJ over there. They had a young black coach, uh, what was the guy’s name? Larry Drew. Larry Drew. Larry called him and like called him and buttered him up. And I’m like, dude, what year was this? What year was this? Giannis. Young Giannis. You would have played with Young Giannis. Hey, that would have been crazy. He’d have faded into obscurity. me. It look it been he went to New Orleans. Brandon Knight. No, no, no, no, no. This is when he was in his prime. Oh, you were in your prime. You about to go. Oh, yeah. Thank god you This isn’t the end of the line. T they would not have put your jersey up on Milwaukee, bro. No. God, no. Good grief. Look, this the second year first team all defense, too. You almost went to Milwaukee. You know what? But the Kobe thing, and this is true of LeBron, too. I know you say LeBron doesn’t care what’s going on, but I bet Luca does. You know what I’ve noticed with both Luca and LeBron and Kobe and all of these awesome players? They always encourage their team to sign the guys they hate playing against, right? So Lance Stevenson ends up playing with LeBron or Kobe Bryant wants Tony Allen on his team or I guarantee you Luca told them like Marcus smartest [ __ ] to deal with, right? cuz he is like he’s the guy. They said Marcus called him Luka called him. They called specifically like, “Yo, we want you. We want I told you. We want It was a story came out. Was it yesterday?” They said Luca called was like, “Yo, we want Marcus Mar. I told you.” All these great players do that. They find the guy that they hate playing against and call him. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Get some numbers. Pull some numbers up with Luca and uh All right, we got you home. It’s smart. We got We got to see if this is a thing cuz he ain’t played, bro. The man ain’t played. Not in two years. He ain’t played. I don’t Luca Dun’s averaged 30.1 points, eight rebounds, six assists versus Marcus Smart in his career. Yeah. I mean, that’s low for him. He’s He’s averaging a whopping. He’s holding crazy. He’s holding a whopping is wicked, bro. He’s holding a whopping 30 points a game. He talking about being caught, man. Don’t believe the hype. I said don’t believe the hype. Marcus has had some good games against him though, like defending him. He’s had a couple in here. There’s a couple sprinkled in here, but but he still cooked them up. Averaging 30 balls. And that’s also not easy to that. That’s not They were in 2018 19. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, Devin. Also, that is a very that’s super incomplete. That’s just when he played the Celtics and Marcus Smart was available. You have no idea what the circumstances of those right when he guarded him. You don’t know. January 9th, 202. This is exactly what happens with Tony cuz anytime you bring up that guy cooked us, he goes, “He cooked Courtney Lee, right?” Like say, “You don’t know the circumstances.” So, so it’s deceiving, right? There’s a reason Luca doesn’t want to play against Marcus Smart. I promise you. Well, one of these games against the Grizzlies, Luca shot 43% from the field for the game. That’s one of them that’s listed here and 25% from three. And that All I’m saying is I ain’t saw a man in two years. That’s all I’m saying. Marcus, I don’t know if this is a great signing. I don’t know if this We certainly felt like we signed the booby prize when Come on, man. We traded for the That was a Yeah, a disaster. Truly a disaster. Yeah. And that’s a fact. Like one year of a a punted year and then the next year wasn’t even on our team by the time we got to the point. Well, the problem was you traded two first round picks to get him and then you traded another one to get off of them. Yeah. It’s just it’s a catastrophe. Nasty world. Truly a catastrophe. And it also did make you feel like they play more games than the Celtics sold high. Yeah, they did. Did he Did he play more games than Challenge? No. [Music] Honestly, do the Celtics end up ever on the bad side of something? No. Seriously. Marcus Smart played 39 games in Memphis. Chandler Park. They always sell high. Like they like that happened with Isaiah Thomas and I know that was played more. Parson’s played way more. Parson’s played more games than Marcus Martini, but played. Yeah. Parson’s played Well, he was on the team for three years. 95. 95. Marcus played 39. Damn. I played 95 games with that man. No, you played like 34. Yeah, you was only on his team for a year, was it? What was your last year, Tony? 16 here. Yeah, you played 34 with He played 34 that year. I don’t know if you played in all those games, but Yeah. That’s interesting, bro. Yeah, even though you keep going on this podcast. Yeah, you sure can. his show. Can you stop doing that, by the way? You sure do. I mean, they keep trying to get They keep trying to get us them away from Memphis on this. It is good though that like you have people that can at least speak up for Memphis on Yeah, I appreciate that. That’s Yeah. Cuz while they over there, they’re just going to keep doing it and at least at least there’s somebody to defend it. I respect that. Straighten that up. I respect that. Straighten that up. At least there’s somebody to defend it. Right. You’re right. You’re right. We appreciate that cuz we we’re tired of people putting spot on our city. Uh Tony, I will say this is going to be a very very interesting NBA season because this was in fact especially after Coniple uh led the Charlotte Hornets to the title. This was the summer of the white guy. Um whether it was whether it was Kyle Filipowski or Reed Shepard or Drew Timmy or Khan Canipple or Johnny Fury dunking on everybody. I mean, tell me about why. I’m just saying. And then obviously Cooper Flag had 31 and you’re and you went totally silent on the text after you called him Andre Karoleno. That didn’t that didn’t go over that well. I think you threw that phone in the sewer after uh Cooper’s 31. I’m just saying it used to just be really we had anybody since Larry Bird. There’s been a sprinkle of Kevin Love and Tyler Herro. But you like these two guys. We’re coming. You like Now, one thing I want to say about here we come here. Caniple. Canipple. There you go. K. Caniple. Uh, I like the way you said that. Is he a point guard? No. Not like a wing. He like He like Great Value Gordon Hayward. How dare you? He like He coming like How dare you? He big and strong. No, he got a little more big and strong. He come He coming like Hayward. Gordon Hayward was wiry. This guy big and strong. He can handle the ball. Kippo’s so big and strong. Stop saying it like that, bro. Trying to figure out so big and strong. Is he going to be able to guard? I think what? What do you mean? Yeah, TA. I think they going to pick on him. Let’s go, TA. You think Sloppy don’t eat? I’m telling you. What? Oh, listen. Listen. I think Cooper Flag going to be able to defend anybody. Anybody. But Kle. Yeah. He He Man, you think they’re going to find Call me. Can call me. Listen. No, don’t don’t help you with a little bit of that lateral. We needed him being good, too, because you know who was horrible in you know who stunk in the summer league? Dalton connect. Oh, he was ass. I think the Charlotte Hornets dodged a bullet maybe trying to trade for him. I think it messed him up. He couldn’t make a shot. That trade messed him up. I think it messed him. I think it messed him up. Messed him up. I think you know what we were just talking about how the sliding doors thing and about how you never know. like it might be the worst spot to go for him to be like a rookie alongside Bronny and all that group in in in the Lakers who are always in win now mode and you know sometimes get on they’re not going to he’s not easily going to get to play through mistakes and then they try to trade him so then that just destroys your confidence destroy mess you up bro now you’re going to look over and freaking Jake Laravia and Marcus Smart are playing ahead of you like he may just that just may go the wrong way completely. Yep. tough scene. Seriously, and I see him as a Grayson Allen kind of guy. I don’t see him connect. Don’t connect. I see him plugging and playing some It’s another guy you Mcder one of those Mcder kind of guys. Mcder had a career though. You know what I’m saying? But I’m just saying he he should be thanking God. You know, this is a privilege, not a right. Maybe it would have been the best place for Maybe you would have gotten lucky to go to Charlotte just at least you can play through mistakes. They don’t give a [ __ ] what you did. Charlie just dragged three white. They let LaMelo take one foot at threes from half court. They let him do whatever he wants to do. Well, and then Daltton connect. I mean, if you take a bad shot, it’s not like you’re going to get benched there. Yeah. Yeah. Just send him. You’re allowed to take bad shots at Charlotte. And they were trying to get Whiters on Charlotte anyway. So, they’re like, “Yo, he was he was like the prerequisits the other day. I was like, he can move so damn slow.” How dare you? There you go, T. Thank you, TA. I want to know his Oh, no, man. Oh, pull up some Con and Nipple highlights, gentlemen. I’m not I’m not I’m not doing this. No, I’m not. We’re not doing this. That’s the MVP. Put some respect on his name. That is the summer league MVP. He’s got the ring to prove it. Do you see those huge diamond rings they got for winning the summer league out? I was like, “What the [ __ ] is going to be?” Straight to the pawn. They had the display of the rings at my um at my showing. They did. Did they give you one? Yeah. No, I mean it was it was right there in the display with all the same shoes. Them junk going straight to the pawn shop. I thought I thought they looked nice. I know. I We got [ __ ] We got summer league t-shirts when we won. We got t-shirts. By the way, I got to find my shirt. It’s somewhere in my closet somewhere. The summer league t-shirt cuz we had to fight somebody to get a 3X. I remember that. Oh yeah. Yeah. They weren’t giving us t-shirts. Shout out to someone. That’s what Hey, that’s when Taylor Jenkins went crazy in the locker room, too. Yeah. Remember that? We saw Emotion for the first time. All right. Dude, come on. Now they got D. Oh, you think this is slow, man? That’s lifetime fitness. What are you? Come on, bro. Man, this is You can’t be serious. Look. Oh. Oh, get crossed. That’s another white dude. That’s another white dude. We just signed him. PJ Hall. No, it’s not. No, it’s not. He could do that. He could do that. LaMelo create form. Look at this. Oh my god. Cash and he How tall is he? Huh? 6’8. 68. Can 6’8? Yeah. Push the rod. Okay. Oh my god. Oh, get off my hip. That’s slow, bro. That’s not going to work in the bro. That [ __ ] looks so slow to me, bro. And not not going to lie, it does look like uh damn like LA fitness. Looks like lunch break run at lunch break. No, that’s a good look. I’m glad you pee what I’m saying. He does look slow. That weak ass headband, right? Good. Good look. That headband got Let me navigate the screen. Let me navigate. Oh my god. Hit him with a little sauce on there. Call me Lincoln cuz I’m a navigator. Oh, bucket. He could do that. I ain’t denying that. Shoot the skin off that [ __ ] Find him. Oh. Oh, wow. Good job, T-M. Bang. Conan nipple highlights, bro. Get out of here. Put some respect on his name. That’s a MVP. That’s an MVP, man. They going to be Man, Jay, come on in here. Hey, get the Bring him up. Hey, he going to be trying to hide in the corn. I can see that. He is 6’5, not 6’8. Bring him bring him over here. So that mean really? We just put a little extra barbecue sauce on it. Oh, he doing he doing too much. Call bro. I don’t know. I can see John Mor right now. MVP. [Music] Bring the the one with the headband. Come over here. That pick coming. They going to switch. His eyes going to be like this. What about All right. What about Philipski? Give me the Philippowski. He don’t know who that is, bro. He doesn’t know who that is. Kyle Filipowski. He’s the big guy. He’s talking about a damn account or some like a lawyer or some [ __ ] That damn sound like probation officer. Very racist. That is a very racist thing to say to be honest. You could go see the attorneys at Canibbation officer. This man said a probation officer. That’s funny. Kyle Filipowski with with the game on the line dunked on everybody. He said he’s the he’s the ma Matthew Devadova Joe Engles. How dare you? How dare you? That’s what the chat says. No, that’s MVP. He’s the Matthew Deladova. Joe Engles. Coniple is the MVP. Like Delova. I mean, there is some Joe Engles. How he looks like Delan. All right, I’m going to ask you guys. That’s how you No, let’s just be fair. Why did a black guy not win summer league MVP? Bro, cuz Hey. No, listen. What I’m saying? No, you tell me. They’re all there. What I’m saying, bro? What do you think? We can’t win them all, bro. We We can’t win them all. We can’t win it every time. We got to give you one. That’s not my argument. My argument is I’m calling the talent as we see it. The talent that I see it is. Look, watch watch. I’m just telling you, we’re coming, guys. I’m tired of the disrespect. Everybody, all of you, all of you. Little DEI awards. Yeah, you going to get a DI MVP. Look at him. Yeah. Look, baby. I got Oh, this show [ __ ] huh? This show. Okay. Yeah, that’s By the way, the score’s tied. I mean, clutch player. The score’s ti. Oh my god. Y’all want it? Hey, actually, hey, pull up the AJ AJ Hall. What’s his name? We just saw Johnny Fury. No, what’s the we sign? He got PJ Hall. Pull up the PJ Hall. Oh, the guy we signed. Yeah, pull that one up. That was OD. I ain’t going to lie. Hey, PJ Hall. We just signed PJ Hall. You got to see the PJ Hall. Watch this. You got to see this guy. Pull that one up. Pull that one up, bro. Telling you. Telling you. Times are changing. No, they not. We’re coming back. We’re making a comeback. D MVP. What’s the other Y’all got? No. No. The one when you with with the shorty. He copy. Yeah. Johnny Fury. Johnny Fury. Johnny Fury. Fury got a lot of my love going on. I tell you, we only had Kevin Love and and and uh Look, let’s do this. Let’s do we just sign. All right. Look, he put Damn, we s Yeah, he put somebody on the ground. That’s tough. We got this guy. Yeah. Yeah. He on our team. And he got You see, he got a little sauce. He got the one leg sleeve TA. I got a Look, TJ Hall. Yeah. Yeah. Where you from? Clemson. He from South Carolina. Another South Carolina kid. I like how they coach up there. That we got We got a We got a kid. Yeah. I like tough. Tough. Tough. I like That’s a Brown uh Brad Bernell. Yeah. Yeah. hard-nosed coach. You know what I’m saying? Hard nose dudes. Those teams are good. Yeah, it was a lot of white guy dunks in the summer league. I can’t front. This one right here. I guess I got my swagger back. Oh my god. [Applause] I guess I got my swagger back. Hey, we’re shining. Low key. I ain’t going to lie. I ain’t gonna lie. T Look, if you just Oh my god. If you just made it like a like a still like a a black image, he looks like Job, bro. Bro, he he cranked that joint. I ain’t gonna lie. He cranked that joint. What’s the behind the back face? Left hand, right hand. Oh, the guy’s all bugeyed. Yeah, you got to quit. Yeah, you got to go. That That’s a worst still for I tell you what. You know how you know you know how you avoid those dunks? Just run through. No, no, no. You got to you got to you got to like as they cocking back, you got to jump up into them and then go for the block. Oh, says says the guy that DeAndre Jordan defecated on. Says the guy that never been dunked on. Tony Allen gets dunked on by DeAndre Jordan. That’s it. Don’t say it didn’t happen. But that’s a lob. You didn’t get out of the way. I’m talking about I’m talking about You got cracked on. Ain’t nobody ever just just drove to the basket dunked on me. Ta. Tony, you’re my favorite player, but come on. Show me. Just show me. All right, just show me a clip. Show me. No. At besides DeAndre Jordan, he’s 7 ft. It was alive. I helped off the week’s side. I’m saying show me somebody that didn’t took off on TA. Oh, body to body type. Like he saw you standing there, he took off. Or not even that. Or or you drove past me and dunked on me. Don’t ask us to do this cuz you know what’s going to happen. Forget we can do this. T this YouTube act like YouTube doesn’t exist. I I just don’t recall, Chris. I don’t recall. Nobody else. Is that because you blocked it out of your memory? No, it’s cuz I either fouled them or they they didn’t make You think you’ve never got dunked on? I never got dunked on, TA. Did you scrap him off on the internet? Actually, James Johnson did dunk on me one time. James, that was that was I had just checked in the game. Johnson. Hold on. James Johnson. What? Why does that matter if you just checked into the game? Cuz my mind was still trying to register what I was going to do later on that night. James Johnson, bro. I got You know what’s funny, T? You may have scrapped them off from the internet. No, no, no. They’re tough to find. They’re tough. Tony Allen never got dunked on. Let me find out you scrapped him off from YouTube, bro. That’s because you ran out of the way. That’s what he was saying to do. Yeah, Tia, you uh you scrapped them off from the internet, bro. There’s no It’s only the DeAndre Jordan. Yeah, like it’s a lot of Tony Allen dunking on people, though. Tony All dunked on Cory Brewer. Tony dunks on Antoine Jameson. Cory Brewer, that doesn’t count. Cory Allen didn’t play that [ __ ] on max. You dunked on a lot of people, bro. You was You were cracking. Yeah, in shooting guards, I think I lead I like think I’m fourth in dunks in shooting guards. Okay. What the shut up? That is ridiculous. That’s not even That is ridiculous. I got 444th. What the hell? That’s ridiculous. Listen, I think I I’m talking about in dunks, bro. No, bro. In what? All right, hold on. I’m going to show you I’m going to show you the meme I got in like a threeear span. Like a Hold on, bro. The one that pops up is that you dunking on Josh Smith. That’s a pretty good one. All right, hold on. I think I think TA, you may be you may have been a quitter for this one, bro. You did you didn’t get dunked on. Yeah, that DeAndre Jordan ever come and put on a Memphis Grizz uniform. You You about said you’re one of the greatest shooting guards in NBA history. You almost said that. Is that what they said? Look, Chris, check it out. What they said? This dude right here, bro. Just made up a stat, bro. I’m fourth in history. I’m fourth. Where was it? Come on, bro. Where was it? Right here, bro. Right here, bro. This making up stats, bro. I’m fourth. I’m fourth in NBA history and D, bro. Bro, this article is from 2022. Desmond Bane hadn’t played for us yet. What’s wrong with this dude, bro? He literally has an article and it says 2022. I know what it said, man. I was I was just trying to light y’all, bro. Educate. Also, also delete all those dicks, bro. Stop. Yo, what’s wrong? I don’t want to see your dick. What’s wrong with him? He What’s wrong, Will, man? I was looking at the ball. No, no, no, no. I’m looking for the other Oh, hell no. I’m looking for that other article I was just telling you. What article you got with you duck though? I’m trying to find I ain’t seen Wait, what was that article you We were just You were just saying the 2022. What did it say? It said you’re the best shooting guard the Grizzlies have had or whatever. Oh. Oh, let me go back to that. I thought you was talking about those dunks I had as a shooting guard. Uh, that article says the greatest shooting guard from every NBA team. Hey. Hey. This is great. Do you want to hear? Oh, when you were the Grizzlies. Yeah, you still are. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You still are. I wasn’t. I mean, I wasn’t. The internet has found you. I wasn’t You getting dunked on. Well, he said Desmond Bane. You’re better than D. The more de Rosen dunked on you, Ta. No, he didn’t. Hold on. Let me see. Wait, wait, hold on. Let me see. Hold on. Let me see. Oh, wait. I’m sending it to you downstairs. No way. When I was looking for this one of the like, you know, I I you know, I don’t know, the algorithm always pulls up the the weirdest things. If you scroll down and I was searching through it, it says Chris Birdman Anderson does the impossible. Makes Kawhi Leonard laugh and it’s Chris Anderson playing for us and he fouls Kawhi Leonard and then says something to him at the free throw line and Kawhi legitimately starts laughing. I’ve never seen that. I never seen a laugh. He’s playing for the Spurs. Jayen, play the highlight. I think this is Is this 2K? Huh? Is this the 2K one? What? TA getting dunked on by Demar D. Roza? This is real life. Play the video. Jaylen Ta, do you remember this? Oh, that doesn’t count. Bad day. That doesn’t count. Hold on. I can’t even see. Yeah, you reached. You reached. He jumped. Oh, no. That one. No, that wasn’t me. That wasn’t me. That is you. That was me. You reached and he jumped. Yeah, I don’t know if that really counts. No, that counts. I’m counting that one. That’s getting dunked on. That is getting dunked on. Bro, there’s also a video on here. The next one, uh, as I got the Tennessee Hall of Fame, that’s not It doesn’t even say Hall of Fame. It just says Tennessee. It does say Tennessee on it, bro. What about game? This came What about on What does it say on the side? Huh? B, it’s a brand on the side. It don’t even say Hall of Famer on the side. It don’t even say Hall of Fame on the hat, bro. No, it just says Tennessee. Bro, y’all not f to just uh shade my my my success right now. It’s not a Hall of Fame hat. This is the hat that they get a Hall of Famers at the Tennessee Hall of Fame. They give you a mesh hat. That is the most Tennessee [ __ ] I ever saw in my life. They give you a mesh with a state on it for making the Hall of Fame. Well, they officially You should have brought You should have brought the little junk the gentleman’s jack that you got. The gentleman’s jack. The embroidered 2025 joint. You could have had a shot of Jack up there. You should have brought that. That’s more legit than that damn hat you got on. Oh, so y’all going to clown my hat? That truck stop as hell. truck stop ass. They gave him They gave him that in a fishing pole. For making the Hall of Fame. Damn, I’m stylish, man. Hey, I want to I want to put another video for it. Verona, have you seen the Dante Jones video? Huh? I thought we were going to watch Kanipple highlights some more. Have you seen the Dante? Former Grizzly. Yeah. Yeah. Dante Dante, have you seen the video? No. TA, you seen What happened to him? Dante Jones, you foul as hell, dog. Play the video, Jaylen. Former Grizzly Dante Johnly walk through hallways in a hotel room and dig on their ass and wipe their name on the wall. That did not happen. One of the fest I can’t do this. Jaylen, play the video. I can’t do this. No, did that. Who did that? Jones dig in his booty and wipe it on the wall and wipe sniff it and wipe it on the wall. Never shake hand. DJ 12. He put DJ 12 on that [ __ ] That’s going to ruin his That’s going to ruin his like perception. He a nasty ass man. No, that No, but nobody ever thought that before. Yeah. Well, you got caught digging in your ass and wiping your hand on the wall. Yo, what I want to know is that is nasty. That is nasty. And why are you just like who posted that? Sniffing your hand. Who posted that? Is that that hotel security footage? Hotel security got the footage. Bro, where is it? Wait, when did when was that? That was some in the calf when he played for the Cavs. Oh, that’s like forever ago. Digging in his booty, sniffing it. So what it was? So what it was, somebody got a hold of that [ __ ] and they told him, “Yo, just $1,000 a week could be cool. $1,000 a week could be cool. We going to post this video. We going viral.” Is that Is that what you pay for all the people that don’t tell you to not post the video? No. But I’m just telling you it was some type of my reputation is you know what I’m saying for it to be coming out this late like he ain’t been he ain’t been in Cleveland forever. Strange guy. Somebody did the the scratch and sniff bro. Hey he’s a strange dude because like No, no, no. Like when I first started here his like his representative like reached out to me and he wanted to do like a weekly bit on the podcast and I was like he never plays. Like that’s going to be very awkward. Whatever. And then he was gone from Memphis. And my buddy buys like uh he goes to like the bank steps to do the to bid on like the foreclosures, whatever. And you got to tour one of them. He had a house out at Southwind and he calls me and he’s like, “Who would have lived out at Southwind?” Like he left everything in the house and like 200 pairs of Nikes, everything. He just walked away from the house completely at Southwind. Dang. and just left and went to I think he went to play for the Mavs or something. Yeah, cuz like he became a touring man right after that. They sold the house like on the courthouse steps. I guess he was probably he was here before the housing crash and maybe he just got, you know, turned upside down on the house after us. It was the Kings. So, but I’m saying he might have gotten turned upside down. Those houses at Southwind were expensive and he probably spent It’s exactly at that time, right? It’s exactly at that time. And then he got flipped on it. And so because my buddy was going to bid on it because he was like, “There’s 200 pairs of Nikes in here.” He’s like, “I wish it was my size.” Well, well, you know, he I mean, everybody a little off in some areas, you know. I ain’t I ain’t I ain’t going to say every We’re not defending him. He digs in his ass. Exactly. He sniffs it and then he wipes it on the wall. I wouldn’t have even told that story without that video. But that right there, bro, I’m never shaking. If I if I saw that, I’m never shaking. All NBA players just don’t be digging in their ass walking the hallways. I’m just Let’s Let me let that be clear. Ain’t nobody walking around here scratching and sniffing. No. Hell no. Go wash your ass, man. A little hot water, a little bit of, you know what I’m saying? Swab, get you a little bit of Dub. You know what I’m saying? Get a little bit of, you know, bubble bath. Sometime here the hotel night I might hop my ass in the bathtub too. So he clarified. He was in the rits. That looked like the rich. That’s either the rich or the four seed. You can’t wipe your ass on the rich wall. Are you Are you saying that Dante Jones is a poor representation of NBA players? That that is going to make people feel that NBA players digging their ass like them NBA boys some big nast men. I don’t want that to be you know what I’m saying the thing. Bro, bogus man and I is is that a thing that makes you wonder is that a thing? That’s not a thing to dig in your ass and wipe it on the wall. Ta. That’s why his eye be a little [ __ ] there now and therefore he got the pink eye, bro. He got the pink eye. Hey, just the pink eye, man. He giving folks pink eye, man. I went left. God damn. He said he said I don’t the team back. Bro, bro, brother, could you imagine, bro, being the person that shook his hand? Like, where was he going, bro? Did he go downstairs for lunch? Dude, for that getting caught on a security camera in the hotel and then it getting released is I mean, it’s just so foul. That is disgusting. Disgusting. Oh, no. You know, or it might just be that’s how them Duke boys get out. All the Duke boys may maybe. Not Cooper. Not Cooper flag. Uh I mean, you think Zion I mean, we did see Zion’s a nasty boy. Zion’s nasty. Yeah, he’s for sure dug in his ass and steal it. Yes. Yes. Hey. Or or made How do you recover from that? How do you recover being a dude being the dude who’s known that I stuck my finger in my Here’s the problem. I sniffed. Here’s the problem. Okay, Ray Allen years ago, you can close your ears. Ray Allen had no idea how to use Twitter and then had these freaky ass where he thought he was DMing the chick and he’s like you and you and it was just nasty as hell. Ray Allen hit the three in the finals. Ray Allen was like a 10 time allstar. Nobody thinks of the nasty crap that Ray Allen tweeted. Nobody. It’s a thing and if you mention it, people can remember it. But other than Yeah. Okay. Okay. But stop hacked. Hey. Hey. That’s fine. Wait. Was he on scene when he did? My man got hacked. Hey, but listen. It was hacked. Hey, no. And And you remember Draymond sending wiener pics and whatever on Snapchat. Here’s what I’m saying. If you do something nasty like that or you do something like that that gets a lot of that goes viral, you have to have the accomplishments that overwhelming when it when it kills off. But what? No, that overwhelming if Dante Jones has nothing anybody thinks of except for digging in his ass and why on the wall? There’s no re like you don’t know anything else about Dante Jones. Ray Allen, if you say Ray Allen, you go that guy. That guy, that guy, he made 10 allstar teams. One of the greatest shooting guards to ever walk. Hit the three to give the Heat the championship. One of the biggest shots in the history of the NBA. When you think of Draymond Green, you think of all defensive, all all defensive, four championships, the whole thing, right? You don’t think about anything weird that he did. Same goes with all manner of guys. Dante Jones, if I say, “What do you think about when you think about Dante Jones?” It’s literally the thing you’ll think about. He doesn’t have anything. You can’t and hurting Kobe Bryant. Scratch and sniff. Oh, wow. That’s a to your point, J.R. Smith. Yeah. Trying to get the pipe, right? By the way, wait, wait. You just But you But when I think of J.R. Smith, I think about LeBron going LeBron. The LeBron team when he sent them DMs. Who? Ray Allen. I don’t know what y’all talking about. You ain’t see the Ray Allen DMs? I never saw no real. Yes, you did. You ain’t seen my mom. I ain’t like I ain’t I don’t I didn’t even hide Instagram. I ain’t never He DM’ a girl this. Yeah, you can’t you can’t put on the screen cuz it’s out of pocket. But he DM’d a girl this. He thought it was a DM. He put that live on Twitter because he thought it was a DM. He didn’t know how DMs worked. [Laughter] He’s a nasty boy. He’s a nasty boy, man. To uh Wait, was he on your team when he did this? I don’t know what year that was. Yeah, I don’t know. Cuz I want to know if he was in y’all’s uh in y’all’s locker room. Like, what did y’all say to him? I mean, 2008 Twitter. No. Uh what’s the name? No. No. It would have been 11. He was a Grizzly. I was in a Grizzly. Uh, Twitter didn’t even come around till 11 really where people were using it. I say, would you expect that kind of behavior from Ray Allen back? No. No. He he he seen all I know from Ray is him golfing. That’s it. And just shooting threes. Yeah. Shooting threes. And he being team Maran’s high school team. He always kept 30, 40 grand in his pocket. He did. Cash. Cash. For real. Zebo’s like that. Just walk around. Bankroll. Bankroll. Zebo’s like that. Bankroll Ray, man. But now, but what’s I don’t know. I guess I I guess, man. The man digged in his ass, man. Word on the wall. Whoopde-doo, man. But how long, how many hotels he been tagged like that? Exactly. Exactly. How many He’s like a graffiti tag. He been tagged like that. How many hotels got the Dante Dante Jones ass streak on the wall on the next episode of Out the Mud? Dante Jones, we want to know. Hey, you going to get Dante Jones on Out the Mud podcast? Ask him how he said Dante. Coach Shitty Coach. He’s in the mud. Coach. Oh god. Coach, you know he a coach with the Clippers. He is coach. That’s a That’s a nasty boy. That’s a nasty boy, bro. You can’t dig in your booty hole, man. I agree. I agree. Especially not in the Ritz Carlton. Then you going to rebound then. Look, he going to rebound. Exactly. Ass and you shooting. You wonder why you missing and sniffing. You You can’t stay focused. It’s a little funky. You wonder why you got the pink eye when you wake up. Those are Hey, those are Lita actions. I can’t do it. Motel 6 action for sure. Yeah. Dante got to get right, man. That’s not Rich Carlton attitude. There’s definitely at that at that Motel 6 on Union, there’s definitely some poo streak somewhere. Guaranteed. He done turned off all his mentions right now. Oh, for sure. Or his phone, too. He probably turned off his phone, too. I I I can I can think of a thousand things I’d rather come out about me than that video. Same here, bro. It’s the worst. Like, that’s That is the worst. No, for that really. Like, cuz you’re nasty to everyone forever. You’re nasty, bro. Like, you’re disgusting. I can’t shake your hand, bro. Nasty. I can’t shake your hand. That’s something you hadn’t been doing since a child. For real, dog. You going to AU games. You walk every time you get along, you smelling the middle of your ass. You’re nasty. Are you going to daff him up next time you see him? Hell no. Getting a big hug. All right, my boy. Tony, congratulations on making the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame. Unbelievable. Oh, we got some news. We got some news. We got some news. News, news, news, news, news, news. What? The streets are saying Westbrook is going back to the Lakers. No. Is that fake news, chat? I saw the uh the Rocket sign Josh Haki. Is that Did you get sent? I think I got chatted. I got chatted. Yeah, you chatted. That ain’t on there. I’m looking. Our chat usually lets me know when stuff happens and they said restbook is going back to the Lakers, but I guess that’s cap. Yeah, they rejected the pick and roll. Josh Kogi signed with the Rockets. Him and his terrible hairline. Josh Kogi. Yeah. Oh, who cares? Somebody did. They said you are top five all time. The chat let me know top five all time NBA players under 6’4 in dunks. Told you. Told I know my history. 6’4. 6’4 and under. 64 and under. 64 under. Oh, 649. Top five in NBA history in Westbrook. Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade’s 6’5. Wait, that was the stat you was talking about, but you didn’t really like say the stat right when you said it. I didn’t. No, you did. You butchered it. You said I’m top five in NBA history. That’s I looked at it. Look, look, I looked at it on Google. It said Jerry Stackhouse 62. It was like it was like so many players and dunks. Hey hey hey that’s like hey that’s like when your boy Charles told me that he was the leading tackler in Arkansas State and I looked it up and he was like that ain’t where you got to look. You got to look at my phone. I was like what are you talking about somewhere I look I’m looking right at the leading tacklers bro. He said that ain’t where you got to lookout where you got All right. Wait here go the list right here. He told me he was the leading tackler in the season in Arkansas State history. I looked up the leading tacklers in history at Arkansas State and I was like, “Charles, your name ain’t on here.” And he’s like, “That ain’t where you going to look, bro.” Yeah, you’re in the wrong spot. Shout out to Charles, man. So, it’s Bway, Russell Westbrook, Brad Bill, Stevie Franchise, Tony Allen. And Tony Allen, and John Wall. Some good company. Yeah, that’s a that is good company. Most dunks in NBA history. That’s a bunch of That’s a bunch of fast twitch guys. No, for real. Most dunks in NBA history by players 64 and under. Fast twitch. You got 297. Steve Fran does three. Yeah, you Hey, that’s a good one. Hey, it’s all you guys that wore those uh stupid platform shoes in high school. I know, right? The East Bay. They should bring those back out. I know. What are they called? Shoes. Strength shoes. Or the jumps. Yeah, jumps. East Bay. They need to bring East Bay back. No, bring East Bay back, bro. We need East Bay. I remember when they went out of business. East Bay. I caught me a couple shoes up at that joint. Yeah, I was playing for Boston. You playing for Boston with it? When East Bay went out of business? Shout out East Bay, man. Classic. That’s where I got this jersey from. We’ll take a quick break, then we’ll come out and wrap this thing up. Chris Far. It’s time for our pick six, Mike. Six classics that we’re most looking forward to in the 2025 football season. Las Vegas. 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Unfortunately, at the break, we just learned that uh rock legend Azie Osborne passed away. Uh he had been in very poor health recently, but of course, elite singer Black Sabbath and then had a unbelievable solo career. And then even a younger generation knew him from the the Osborne’s the uh reality television show, but Azie Osborne passed away. Also, Azie Osborne, unbelievable Memphis connection because one of the all-time great mug shots wearing a jersey of my beloved St. Louis Blues in 1984. Azie Osborne played at the Midsouth Coliseum and then was arrested in Memphis. That’s kind of tough. I ain’t going to lie. In the Blues jersey. That’s kind of tough, bro. That’s tough. Is that a t-shirt? It looks like a t-shirt. It looks like it needs to be on a t-shirt. That was on May 14th, 1984. And he ended up in the drunk tank. He was arrested at 12:30 a.m. on a misdemeanor charge of public intoxication after the cops after the cops said that they found the former Black Sabbath front man staggering drunk on Beiel Street. Right behind us. Damn. Right behind us. Aussie Osborne in a blues jersey. That’s Yeah, you can get it on a t-shirt. No. No. He’s asking if the if what he’s wearing is a shirt. The photo is a shirt. Oh, the photo is a shirt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it is. Okay. I thought you were asking is that a jersey or a shirt? The jersey kind of tough, too. Yeah. So, anyways, he’s wearing to St. Louis, but he was staggering drunk down Bee Street. I mean, if you charged people with public intoxication on Beiel Street, we’d all be locked up. [ __ ] In Nashville, we all be locked up. People would be locked up on Bee Street every weekend. It’s all it is is public intoxication. Aussie Osborne was quoted as saying, “See, I can’t have a casual line of Coke. That doesn’t equate in my head. I never went to the bar for a drink. I never smoked a joint. I used to go into the bar and get absolutely shitfaced. It really didn’t occur to me that other people were going there for a drink. Legend says he was released from the Memphis jail 5 hours later after drying out and was not required to return for a court appearance. He continued on a tour in support of 1983’s Bark at the Moon visiting Nashville Jacksonville over the following days. And it said uh unfortunately he continued ingesting a prodigious amount of intoxicants into the new millennium. I mean Azie I told y’all during the break Azie Osborne making it to 76 is incredible. Unbelievable. The amount of drugs that that guy put in his body. Drugs and alcohol. I just saw a recent uh video of him singing Mama I’m coming home and people were like this is his farewell. Yeah. This is his farewell. He knows it soon. Rest in peace Aussie Osborne. Yep. Rest in peace Aussie Osborne. And a whole another generation of people know him from uh the Post Malone album. The Post. Yeah. He’s on the Post Malone album. Take what you want from me, brother. That’s a banger right there, boy. That’s a I saw I saw Azie when I was in high school. He played the pyramid with Rob Zombie. Oh, really? And he had broken his leg the previous show in Birmingham. I think they played Birmingham the previous show. And he had broken his leg and he still did the show. He could barely move, but he still did the show. Aussie Osborne, real rock legend, for sure. Absolutely rock. Real rock legend. Um, all right. So, yesterday was obviously colossally disappointing during the course of the like in our show, in the course of the show, we learned that Memphis was trying to buy its way into the Big 12. And we also learned that the Big 12 had no interest in Memphis buying its way into the Big 12. I mean, it just made us look so damn thirsty. It was so annoying. It said, “According to Ross Dinger of Yahoo, they offered the conference more than $150 million in sponsorships while agreeing to accept no money for the final five years of the Big 12 deal with Fox or ESPN, agreeing to be subject to expulsion if the conference were to decide Memphis isn’t adding any value.” So, Memphis offered free money while taking no money and offering to leave quietly if they were asked and the Big 12 still said no. Said no. Yeah. Damn, Memphis doubled down with that. Indeed. Stupid graphic they posted yesterday. It says, “According to the Sports Business Journal, the Big 12 presidents didn’t even need to take a vote.” That’s the tough part is like, man, they didn’t even vote on it. Damn. Yeah, they didn’t want us, bro. Why won’t they want me, man? Then they put that, you see the graphic the Memphis posted that made us even feel even more shitty. Oh, the proud proud member of the American. Put the graphic up. Proud member of the American. Who’s our mascot? Sore. Put the graphic up, Jaylen. I just sent it in the chat, bro. They put this stupid graphic up. It should just be like a canker sore. Yeah, put it on the lip. That kind of sore. More like Yeah, put it on the lip. Put it on the lip. Herpes. Poor eagle with a cup. It’s a meagle. Ale. Look at this. Look at this. Built to rise. By the way, it has 1.1 million views on Twitter. That’s how that’s how much of a laughing stock we were yesterday. We were just getting clowned, bro. I know. It’s tough. Why don’t they want us, man? Why don’t they want us, man? I mean, they took Cincinnati, Houston, BYU, and and uh uh UCF and left us behind. Yeah. Then in 2016, you got to go back to then the Big 12 assembled a list of finalists to consider for their expansion. We didn’t even make the final 12 of that. Yeah, that’s that’s tough. Like there were 12 12 schools in that. We weren’t even in that. And then fine. We’re like fine, but what if we give you a bunch of money and don’t take any money? They’re like still no. Like we’re not even gonna vote on that. And you can kick us out if you want. No, actually, no, we still no. Still no. You really hate us. You can change our logo. How about that one? We’ll change our logo to whatever you want. Yeah, we’ll be the Memphis Big 12. Yeah, we’ll be that. Brought to you by FedEx. Right. Whatever you want. We don’t care. Just let us in, dude. offering them money, taking no money, and saying you can kick us out is the most poverty ass offer ever. To get no, I mean to to get that turned down bigger. Like that’s one of those where we would debate is this smart. No, for real. Like we if we would have gotten in, we’d have been like, should we really be doing this? Like especially if they can just kick us out. And but to make that poverty ass offer and then them then be like, nah. Yeah. It makes us look even more crap. It’s like you on your knees begging, bro. Like they know that. They know that’s just such a desperate offer. So they’re just like, “No, we seriously need to offer a billion dollars. You have to shall we take this offer somewhere else?” Unbelievable. Think somebody else will take us to wear the ACC? That’s kind of it. I mean, no money, bro. You’re telling them they don’t have to split the money. You’re giving them $150 million. You’re giving them FedEx, AutoZone, and all these sponsors to be a part of it. You’re giving them a new market in the south. Still no. Still no. We don’t We don’t want you here. We don’t want your free money or your Southern Footprint or your FedEx or your Lowe’s. Yeah. Yeah. They hate us, man. Yeah. They hate us. They hate us, bro. They hate us. So that sucks. And it was super depressing. super depressing. Truly it is, man. Um because obviously, you know, this stuff is, you know, look, I will say this. It was a week ago or earlier in the week that I did the whole uh or I guess it was last week that uh article from CBS, but the 18 teams that have a chance to win the national championship and I said the four and five star players have to Bud Elliott does that uh blue trip rating. Oh yeah. The five and four and five star players have to outweigh the two and threes that you have. And then I went through it and it was like nine SEC teams of the 18 and then there were like five Big 12 teams or I’m sorry uh Big 10 teams. Big 10 team. Yeah. Yeah. And then there were like three ACC teams because it was Clemson, Florida State, Miami. There were no Big 12. Yeah. and and and then he said there’s 18 and by next year the only ones that have a chance of adding to the list were South Carolina and Old Miss if they did it over the course of a 4-year run. But that would give 20, right? And then the SEC would have 11 of the 20. Yeah. But he said that nobody in the Big 12 is even close. They’re not even close to being on that list. Yeah. They’re not even close to having a team that could compete for the national championship according to that metric. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. According to that metric. Yes. And that metric has never been wrong. Yeah. Like the talent inevitably wins. Yes. In the end, the talent wins. And so they, you know, he was saying there’s 18 teams that have a chance, but that at that point we were talking about like they’re not even So I mean there is there is part of you when you get kicked out of this and it’s like is there a world where the Big 12 ends up more on the same level of whatever Memphis is in, whether it’s the AAC or you know what I mean? Because if we look up and the SEC and the Big 10 are doing their own thing, which is completely plausible. Yeah. If you were to go and I mean really it’s really just Florida State and Clemson, you know. Yeah. If you want to go snag those. Yeah. And add those to something. But I mean, if those teams just decided, hey, man, we’re going to be US 32. Like the Big 12. What I’m saying is the Big 12 ain’t playing with those. No, they’re not even they don’t even have like three ACC teams are in that talent mix. Three. Miami, Florida State, and Clemson. No Big 12 teams. So, on the talent front, they’re not playing on that level anyway. So, it’s going to be interesting to see, you know, on that Pack 12 front, the Big 12 front. Like, yes, it’s the power, I guess, four now. The power four, right? Um, power four, but it’s really a power two. They control everything. And really two and a half. Yeah. Right. Because you could throw ACC, you could see Florida State, Clemson, or Miami being able to compete. Yeah. For a title, obviously. The other one’s no chance. Yeah. Right. And it’s like I maybe a little bit of shad and fruit like you hope that it just ends up like oh oh you’re one of the big dogs that doesn’t want us to be a part of it. Yeah. And then you look up and it’s like well they’re not a big dog either anymore. Well everybody it’s going to be you know I think we always thought it’s going to be the halves and the have nots. And I guess that would be my thing is like what if there’s still a have not when this all flushes itself out eventually. When it all flushes itself out, is the Big 12 going to be a have or a have not? Cuz talent-wise, they’re not a have. Yeah. And those schools, I mean, honestly, like those schools are not like that ain’t Nebraska and Oklahoma and Texas. No. In basketball, they are in football. Not and football they’re not basketball they got it. They the best basketball they’re great other than the SEC of course but right basketball they got it but football not they ain’t they ain’t got nothing. But I mean I’m saying it ain’t that much better than whatever this new pack 12 is. It really isn’t in the Oh the BU quarterback. He’s going to two lane. He’s going to be two lane in the me. Yeah. He wants to turn up the AC hang out with Soar and hump in New Orleans. Oh my god. Good for him. That’s crazy. See, you’re hump in New Orleans, my guy. Huh? All right. Anyways, yeah, it sucks that uh that happened yesterday, but we’ll continue to uh maybe maybe Memphis could get in one of the B a different basketball conference, right? That’s been on the table. Would you want to be in the Pack 12? Join something as a basketball. You don’t want to be in the Pack 12, would you? Yes, I would. You want to be in Hey, yeah, I Bro, I take Okay, take away if if anything I’ve been consistent, I’ll be in anything else. anything. Did a conference with Rice? Food. Food directions, dude. Food and directions, baby. On ESPN Plus? Damn right. No. On the Discovery Channel. Yeah, I’d rather Yeah. Devin, would you rather play Rice or would you rather play Boise State and San Diego State? I mean, I’d rather be in anything. I mean, San Diego State, not really. But yeah, I’m with I’m saying at least they got like good basketball. I would be much more likely to go to the Liberty Bowl to watch Memphis play San Diego State than I At least it’s a real team, a real program. Who gives a crap about Rice? He not He’s not rolling. No one has ever cared. No, they don’t even care about Rice down there. They wish they didn’t have an athletic program at Rice except for baseball. Yeah, they’ve done well in baseball. They’re good. been good at baseball, but everything else they wish hopefully, look, Penny gets this thing cracking and we keep on having good basketball seasons, the new Liberty Bowl opens and the football team keeps winning. And hopefully a television company wants us in the Big 12. Somebody said we might as well join the swag at this point. Damn. I mean, it’d be easier for travel. Say we need to join the swag. I mean, those games are on ESPN plus two, so who cares? Put us in the swag, dog. At least they got good bands. Good band. Yeah. Right. I know the halftime’s got to be good. The gray hairs might be a little confused, but you know, it’s up. It’s up. Maybe a little We lost the Southern Heritage Classic game. Why not every night? Every night. All right, that’s going to do it for today’s show. Thank you to Tony Allen as always. Thanks to John Roger across the glass. Thanks to Devin Walker. Thanks to Jayla back in the studio. Until tomorrow. We gone. [Music]

On today’s show, Tony Allen is in-studio to talk about his movie getting premiered at NBA Summer League, getting inducted into the Tennessee Sports Hall of Fame, Chris Paul signing with the Clippers, Marcus Smart going to the Lakers, and some foul stuff from Dahntay Jones (3:00). RIP to Ozzy Osbourne (1:19:26) and more on Memphis and the Big 12 (1:23:03)

Host: Chris Vernon
Co-Hosts: Jon Roser, Devin Walker
Guest: Tony Allen
Technical Director: Jaylon Wallace
Associate Producer: Jena Broyles 

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