Where could the Miami Heat have been more proactive? | Five on the Floor

Where could the Miami Heat have been more proactive? | Five on the Floor

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So check it out. It’s prize pick. Use the code FIV ve. Get your $50 and play right away. Legal in the state of Florida. Now today’s episode [Music] heat nation. Yeah. Mercy logo down the gang. Five on the floor. Ride for my dogs. Where’s the thing? You can check the score. Hustle hard. Couple stars wearing bubble frog down the bisc [Music] y’all seen the block stop with one hand and pap. [Music] Welcome to five on the floor a daily insider show on the Miami Heat and the NBA featuring Ethan Skolnick, Greg Sander, Alex Toledo, Brady Hawk, and others from the Five Reason Sports Network. Also, make sure to subscribe to Off the Floor for the most heat anywhere. All right, welcome back to Five on the Floor. Here’s today’s floor plan. I’m Ethan Skol. You can follow me at Ethan J Skol at Five Sports. And if you’re watching on YouTube, you can see it on the screen. I’m not even going to introduce a first or last name. He’s hot take Harry. You, if you follow on Twitter over the past few years, you know, he has a very definite perspective about certain things that have gone on with this Miami Heat team in the past few seasons. and we’d like to give a voice and there might be actually be some things here that I agree with. So Harry and I are going to go back and forth a little bit on some decisions that have been made by the Heatfront office over the past few years that may have made things more difficult for them. So I’m going to put that out there and then people are going to listen to the podcast and then we’ll see. I’m sure I will get reaction to this one and I will bring the reaction back maybe to a future episode. But I just want to get let me get your general perspective on this because you are not this is I want to be clear this. You’re not like a heat hater. You root for the team. You want them to do well. You were you member of another podcast down here for a period of time. Um so this is not like you’re not Kevin Oconor, okay? Like let’s just be clear on this. Uh you want you want the Heat to do well. You just have a different perspective on some of the stuff that maybe they could have done that as I tangle my headphones here that wouldn’t have left them assetless in some situations. Is that correct? Yeah. I appreciate you kind of, you know, distinguishing me from a Kevin O’Connor who can’t breathe without saying something really nasty about the heat. So, I appreciate that as a distinction to start off. Um, yeah, I just think like the Heat are always, you know, every summer they’ll say, you know, next summer they’ll say, “We’re going to keep our cap space. We want to be flexible so that we can make a move.” And then you kind of look at what’s out there and you’re going to say, how are they going to uh be able to compete with other teams that have either um been tanking and acquiring assets the entire time the Heat have been competing and we’re in two finals or um teams that are a bit um I look at like the Celtics who obviously are like the Heat’s biggest rival and obviously a team they they went up against a lot over the last few years. a team that won a championship ultimately lost their best player last year unfortunately to an injury with Tatum going down with the Achilles and now seemed to be resetting again um and trying to get assets to kind of you know make a make another run after Tatum recovers you know he’s probably out for the year. So, I guess I just kind of look around and I’m like, how are the Heat going to compete in this marketplace in the new NBA um with this new CBA, which I think people have, uh correctly kind of said this is a hard cap. Basically, no one no one wants to be over the second apron. Teams have made numerous moves this summer, even big spenders, to get below that second apron and get out, you know, get out of the the penalties that go along with that. So, how do the Heat who want to compete every year um ultimately get into the mix um you know without wanting to give up I guess their core identity or the thing that you know they they pound their chest and say we’re the Heat. This is the way we want to do it. Right. I think I think that’s all well and good, but in my opinion, there’s so many things. I mean, we could go back a while, but even just going back to like getting Jimmy and acquiring him via trade, like I think they kind of dropped the ball in a lot of situations and things that that were out there for them um and ways to get some of these assets back. All right, so we’re going to go through some of that. And again, some of this may be perception, some may be reality, but we’re going to go through the list and and go through. But the other thing I want to be clear on to distinguish your issue is not so much what some have an issue with, which is the perception that the Heat don’t want to spend above certain thresholds, which I know is an issue for some on Twitter. The Heat have been top 10 in spending consistently. U maybe not top five, not going as deep into the tax as some other teams, but they have gone into the tax some years. Uh but that’s not so much your issue. Your issue is more under the parameters that have kind of been set here, making sure that you maximize getting value for the assets that you have and accumulating assets as you go forward, right? So, we’re not setting it like just go spend like the Suns owner spends. That’s not what you’re saying here. Yeah. And spending spending on a team like that, you look at, you know, they’ve paid so much for nothing, right? And I don’t and I don’t expect the Heat to spend deep into the tax, especially because they’ve been in the tax the past few years and now it’s going to start, you know, they’re not going to want to be in the repeater tax. So, I’m sure they’ll find a way to get out of it this season and probably next, too. It’s more about spending smartly, moving guys before you have to make a decision on whether to pay them or not. Um, you know, I think I think there are contracts that either were too long in length or um maybe there could have been some more negotiating back and forth on what they ultimately got because the problem is when you start when you’re spending and you’re paying these contracts and now ultimately you’re against a very tough um you know collective bargaining agreement. You have some tough decisions to make and ultimately I think the Heat have lost a lot of guys who were contributors who were good role players um for nothing. Uh, I’ve been doing a little bit of research, Ethan. I went through the pod that you and Sean did together, kind of listing the top 10, um, heat undrafted free agents. Um, I did my I did my own research and looked at, um, the trades that have been done since we acquired Jimmy in 2019. And, um, they have really not gotten anything for the guys they either ultimately let go or I did a little bit of I wrote this down earlier. I think my math is right that they’ve traded away nine second round picks in that time frame. Uh they also lost one they also lost an additional one to tampering for Lowry which was stupid but whatever and then have only acquired two back. Um one one for Strus in the ultimately the signing trade with Cleveland and then they got one back in the KZ trade which ultimately was um to alter the first round pick pick protection with OKC. So, and remember that I remember that trade initially was giving up three second round picks essentially to to get one, which was KZ, which was a player who didn’t work out. Not that every second round pick is going to work out, but he’s a player who I know Pat had an affection for that that didn’t work out. All right, so let’s layer this. Let’s start from the beginning here because I know um again there’s also an argument about these undrafted players and whether or not you should overpay them or not which is another place where I think you don’t necessarily fall where some of the fans do but I think you actually fall where I do and where the organization has moved on this since say 1617 where they were overpaying average players that they either developed or helped uh you know helped uh sort of get the best out of whether it was a James Johnson waiters that kind of player and obviously those things backfired. They ended up having to move those players. Although one of the things they have done well over the years, at least until recently, was get rid of players they you didn’t think they could get rid of like whether it was a Hassan, a Dion, JJ, I think Dion, Winslow, and JJ all went that same trade that they got uh they got Iguodala and and Crowder. But anyway, let’s let’s um let’s start from the beginning here. So, you’re talking about since the Jimmy trade, which of course they acquired Jimmy. They tried to get Jimmy the previous year, uh, there was a hangup of the phone when Tibs wanted BAM. They end up getting Jimmy from Philadelphia. They don’t give up a whole lot. They pivoted and were able to still dump Hassan. Even with the confusion in Dallas about Dragitch or not Dragage, they were able to keep Dragitch, but they had to give up an extra first round pick to the Clippers to make to to sort of make it happen at the last minute when it looked like it was going to fall apart. Is that is that a trade you have an issue with or is it after that? It’s more they’re all these things uh they kind of go together, right? Like you had to give up the first round pick in the Jimmy trade because you signed James Johnson and Dion to four-year contract. So you had their money on the book and you didn’t have the space to bring Jimmy in. So you had to use the first round pick to dump Hassan um you know and other contracts. So I think no of course listening Jimmy for Josh Richardson a first round pick is a great trade. You’ll do that any day of the week. There’s no real issue with what happened with the trade. It’s more like then going down the line when Jimmy eventually wants out and last year you’re trying to decide, hey, should we make should we make the playoffs so that the pick conveys now? That was that was the pick ultimately or do we, you know, do we not and hope we get a nice lottery bump? That’s kind of my thing. You mentioned the KZ trade, three second round picks. You can take a swing on a guy and miss. I don’t personally care. I like I like the risk. I prefer my teams to be risky. It’s more about what are you doing after you you use those picks to get them back. Um, you know, now that you’ve now that you traded for you give up the first for Jimmy in this draft, like um what are you doing to get these picks back? And that’s kind of where I think they’re they’re slipping a little bit. Um, okay. So, let’s So, so the Jimmy trade, so after the German trade, they have developed a number of guys who contributed during Jimmy’s tenure, right? So, we’re talking about Duncan, who predated, uh, but but Duncan, I know you have specific feelings about that. Max, Gabe, Caleb, uh, I guess Haywood now, but they they they’ve had they’ve had a number of these players who, to their credit, they have found these guys. I don’t think they found one in summer league this year, unfortunately, but in in previous years, they have found these guys and they’ve developed them into not just competent rotation players, but final starters in a couple of cases. and also a guy who could have been a a uh an Eastern Conference Finals MVP actually if you just look at his performance in that series. What is your issue there? The issue is not not paying them, right? Because I don’t think you fall on the side of giving them the big money. It’s more not moving them before before they leave for nothing. Is that it? That’s one. Let me let me do it like this, Ethan. They’re because the Heat are really good at two things. Um, Adam Simon’s amazing and he’ll find talent in the draft up and down whether it’s like outside of the lottery somewhere in the second undrafted guys. Adam Simon’s a really good uh guy for finding basketball talent. And the second thing they’re good is finding guys that have been like discarded. Think about um Duncan wasn’t drafted. Gabe was a guy who was on I believe the Sacramento summer league team. Um Caleb Martin got a try out because of JCole. like just guys that have been discarded by the league and ultimately the Heat were like we see something in this guy where they can be a contributor. Max Truce um he had the injury right and then it was cut to the old summer league team and ultimately got here. So they’re good at that. They’re good at seeing the talent that other people are missing. So once you get those guys once they’ve once they’ve gone through the heat training program and they’re and you’re like these are guys that can play in the rotation and once you sign them to the three-year contract that the Heat do you know it’s the end of that first year and then the two years after that next year you got to start thinking if we’re not going to bring this guy back what can we get for them because if they continue to leave for nothing I just think you’re you’ve lost you you’ve developed an asset and gained nothing for it. So, the four guys you mentioned, right? It’s um it’s Duncan who now obviously he had a long career with the Heat, but right, he’s now he’s gone for nothing. And personally, I thought that trade was really bad, Ethan. And this is why you’ve you’ve said on the last few pods, like as you got more and more sources, it sounds like Duncan was kind of never coming back to the Heat. He did the Heat he did the Heat a huge favor, opting out of his dealer early termination, gets his 9.8 million dollars off the books. And so the Heat are like, “Okay, thanks Duncan. Thanks to his agent, we’re gonna find you the next spot and we’re going to try to work this out so you get the most money that’s possible.” Um, Detroit ends up happening because they’re having issues with, you know, they they don’t know if they’re going to be able with Beasley, right? So, right, that trade only works with a Fonteo coming back. They’ve been trying to dump Fonteo the entire summer. So, for the Heat to not get anything in that trade besides Fonteio back, I think that’s bad asset management, especially when Detroit later on makes a trade, um, they ended up trading Dennis Schroeder to the Kings with a second round pick to get a trade exception back. So, how do you not get a second round pick for that? You’re helping out Duncan. You’re giving them essentially the only guy. Um, they can only get Duncan on the signing trade once they sign Levert. And we know all this stuff. The information is out there. Um, you know, you had Yosi on your pod. You have Brian Goins. These are guys who are excellent with the cap. Everybody knows this stuff. And I and I know it and I’m not nearly as good as they are with the cap. But how did the Heat not say, “We’ll get you Duncan. We’ll do it at the number that works, but we want something back for it.” Not not just Fonte, who you’ve been trying to dump. Um, you know, give us a second round. you you you’re you’re saying similar to that they got something back for Strus in that case. That was one case where they did get cuz cuz let’s look at the Struse situation and then after the break I want to go through some more of these. In Strus’s case, they were never bringing him back. They never really made him an offer. I know he was frustrated by that. He wanted to stay, but it was pretty clear his number was going to get out of control for them and wasn’t a move that they were going to make. Now, it was interesting because then they did sort of make that pitch to Caleb and they got lucky that his agent basically committed I don’t want to use a word that’s going to get me sued, but just complete disservice, okay, to his client the way he handled all that stuff. Okay. But with Max, you weren’t you’re not making the argument with Max, for instance, that because I know you didn’t like the Duncan contract from the beginning, but but you’re not making the case with with Max that they should have paid Max at that number, right? I mean, are are you satisfied with what they ended up because they got a second round pick back, right? They did get something back in that deal. I would say I would say they got lucky that Cleveland both wanted Max at a number above the mid-level exception and were willing to give up the second to do that, right? Um, and that’s why I’m confused. If it worked with Max and essentially very similar thing, why couldn’t they do it with Duncan for a more desperate I mean this is at this point this is a this is a Pistons team that did very well last year is probably a top seed in the East. You know, I’d say at least top five because they were six they were six last year. They their shooter who they wanted to bring back is, you know, in a suit with u the US government trying to work that stuff out and and Hardway and and Hardway Jr. was on the verge of signing a min a minimum with Denver, right? And Hardway leans to go to Denver. So you you had them in a really tough spot. They can’t do the move without moving Fonteo. And I don’t mind taking I I never mind taking your expiring salary back, but I got to get that was a little small. That was a little smaller in case they want to wave and stretch it too. It’s it’s a little bit of savings there. gives you a little flexibility. As a player, they probably can move again. And one of the reasons I want to do this is because I know I’m going to get push back on this stuff, but at least I get it all out there and I maybe I can get explanations for you on why that didn’t happen in that case. All right, so the Duncan trade, I got you. The Max trade second rounder on the other side. I want to get to the idea of trading them first because the Caleb thing comes up with that. So, I I wanna I want to touch on that, but let we’ll do that here uh in a second because I I know that this person did not want them to resign Caleb. Uh Lynette, our friend Lynette, you can find her at insurancebylanette.com. Uh you can find her on our Discord, all over the place on on playback. Huge Miami Heat fan, but also the best at finding you insurance. 954-5818800. Aggressive insurance agency. Insurancebylanet.com. Two N’s and two T’s. Again, it’s aggressive insurance agency. The insurance agency that works for you. homeowners insurance, renters’s insurance, and of course, not just life insurance, but also car insurance. And if you have bad driving record, she can help you with that specifically. So, reach out to her. A aggressive insurance agency, insurancebyette.com. All right, let’s let’s go to the Caleb deal. Would you have traded Caleb before that trade deadline that year? I guess it would have been two seasons ago now. Yeah, that’s the number one mistake out of those guys that we mentioned in my opinion. I think the Max and Gabe things are tough because of how well the team did and obviously they, you know, based on what happened, they’re going to say, “No, we would never do that. We made a finals run. Why would we care?” But the Caleb thing’s interesting because he he has that unbelievable season with unbelievable series against the Celtics. Like you said, maybe he could have been Eastern Conference final MVP. They ultimately lose to Denver. Um, that’s the summer they went after Dame and everything kind of fell apart. But why when Caleb’s value at its absolute highest and you’re not sure if you’re going to bring him back or not, why not go out there and see what his what his value is? His his value is never going to be higher. And look at what’s happened since that. Unfortunately, he’s had some injuries. He’s now been traded twice. Um which again was traded for it was traded for Grimes who blew up after after Grimes was traded for him actually. Yeah. Yeah. We I mean we could do a lot on like you know his agent kind of hurt him and saved the Heat, but um and that’s kind of my thing like why why can’t we look into it and say if we’re going to find these guys, the Heat are going to find the next guy. Maybe they didn’t find him this summer. They will find another undrafted guy who will ultimately be a role player who will fit in. They’ll find the next Haywood. They’ll find the next Martin. They’ll find the next Vincent. They’ll find the next um you know Duncan. They’ll find the next Strus. If you if that’s your plan and you are like I said they nine second round picks in six years they’ve traded away in different trades three for KZ one for Ariza one to dump dead two to dump Oladipo and the and my issue with the deadman and Olad Depot is not those guys one they didn’t need to sign deadund back for the bloated contract they thought it would be trade fodder that never worked out and the depot thing was originally a one-year deal that they eventually it became two he gets hurt opts in and then they have to dump him for two picks Um they two second round picks for Mitchell which I like Mitchell so I’m not gonna that’s fine and then obviously the Lowry tampering. So nine to 10 second round picks they got two back and I don’t think in today’s NBA you’re going to succeed doing this. Like if you want to have second round picks available to dump contracts to get under the tax. I understand the benefits of avoiding the tax when you’re not competing or when you’ve when you spent two years and getting out of it, but you have to find a way to get these picks back. So, either either you trade guys like you trade Caleb at the height of his value or my other thing, Ethan, which is I don’t know why they don’t do this, but this is my big this is my big brain idea, right? Every every single year NBA NBA teams have money to spend either in either in trades or in ways to grease the wheels and different things. Every single draft you should buy a second round pick. The Heat this year had I think they had three and a half million to spend. They could have bought a second round pick and then you have a choice to make. Either flip the pick for a future second round pick after you’ve acquired it or draft the player and do something with it. The heat Josh Richardson was a great second round pick. He was using two massive trades. He was traded for Jimmy Butler. He was then traded from the Celtics to the Spurs for Derek White. Um well, Larson looks like he’s a Larson looks like a rotation. Larson looks like a guy who could who could sweeten a deal. Um wasn’t Don Mitchell a second round pick? Like no, he was he he was a first round. He was a first rounder, but Larson was their own second rounder. And they have had over the years. I mean, Chomers was a high second round pick. I mean, they’ve had a handful. I I guess the argument I’ve always made against them buying into the second round or emphasizing the second round is that they do so well with undrafteds that I haven’t really seen the need for them to accumulate second round picks for themselves. I I get it as trade sweeteners, as trade fodder, that kind of thing, but for them, like all they needed was like for instance, like Tyler Johnson had a terrible Portsmith camp, right? like they were targeting Tyler Johnson as a potential second round pick. He had a terrible Portsmith camp and so they were like so first phone call they get him right after that and whatever you want to say about the overpaying Tyler and all the rest of that. He was a good rotation player for them during a time where they were kind of middling but he was a decent rotation player for them. He gave them something. Okay. So that’s always been my thing as well. If they can get and I don’t know what Kesha Johnson’s going to be now. It doesn’t look like he’s necessarily on the uptick like I I’ thought he might be. But if they can get if if they their first call after the draft is usually to a player that’s going to help them then or they think can help and they can mold. I haven’t been as big on the second round pick stuff. It’s that if you don’t have the second round picks, I guess the problem is you can’t sweeten these trades and then you also can’t get off of deals as easily. So Ethan, do Ethan do both. I agree with you. They’re going to end up getting the guy they want undrafted most likely. So, get them there, but then also have the second round pick. Whether you draft a player and you could find out if they’re going to be another you have three two-way contracts now. It could be a cheap contract at the end of the at the end of the roster that you can use that you need to use in a trade to push over the finish line. When you when KD got traded to the Rockets, the first trade I saw besides the news was yours saying, “Man, I wish the I guess the Heat needs second round picks. This is the new currency in the NBA.” and they’ve just been a little bit behind the eight-ball in getting it. So, like I’m saying, if you’re giving away if you’re essentially they’ve given away a lot of these second round picks for whatever reason, we don’t have to agree with the reasoning, but well, and Bryant Bryant was Bryant was a swap, right? So, they didn’t actually get one in that deal, right? Just a swap. But what I’m saying is if you’ve if you’ve given up nine in six years, and remember, you only get you start with one a year, you need to get these back. You need to be able to every time a guy’s available for a trade, you don’t want to come up short because you’re like, “Well, I don’t want to give up another first because I already owe this one and I don’t know if it’s The problem is the HEA put themselves in a spot where they can say, um, hey man, uh, Katie was too expensive for us and it wasn’t going to put us over the top, so we took a back seat.” where where the where the proper thing would have been we can take the risk because we have the assets available to do it and now let’s see what happens and the other part of that is I thought and you had Tobin on your pod last week after we had him on on our random scared podcast pod um and it was and I thought the best part of his rant was if you believe in Tyler and Bam bring in the talent to help them win and if they’re not a KD way. Make the moves to start over and get guys who are going to help you win. And I think that’s kind of like they’re just stuck in this place. The the Norm Pal trade was excellent. It’s the best heat trade I can remember not involving a unrestricted free agent since getting Gore on. Like it’s the best trade where they got the best players deal. Didn’t give up anything. gave up no didn’t give up a rotation player and they cleared space for others to play which was the whole idea too because now you don’t have Kyle Anderson taking Yoic’s minutes so that to me it yeah it’s an easy easy I mean nobody can have a problem with that trade I don’t think but then my but then my fear you know my my negativity is like I’m worried they’re going to go sign him to a contract at the end of this year if he has a good season and it’s going to be like wait I thought we were going after the youth I thought we were going you know he’ll be 33 at the end of this year so I just I want them to I want ultimate ultimately I want them to win. The Heat are responsible for my best memories as a fan until obviously the Panthers recently like I they I been at big games. I’m in the Ray Allen shot like they’re my greatest sports memories. They you know like moments I’ve spent with my dad, my brothers, things I’ll never forget. So I don’t I don’t have anything like negative about them. I just think this is a this is kind of a tweak in philosophy that they have to start doing. And if they don’t, I’m just worried we’re gonna be in this spot every year where we’re like, can they get out of the playin? If they if they get into the playin, they’ll win, but they’ll, you know, are they gonna win a first round series? Will they lose in the second? Like, and Ethan, the thing is, we make fun of other teams for being in the middle. You know, the wheel of meteor mediocrity. We make fun of the Hawks. The Bulls. The Bulls. And the Hawks look like they might be squeezing out of But here, let let me let me do this because we got two minutes left. So, I want to give you a chance to do this. So, we talked about what they haven’t done in your view and again I’m I’m sure I’m going to get push back on some of that and I’ll bring it back to the podcast. What would you do now though specifically? Is it what I mean it seems to be everybody says trade Tyler, right? Is that is that where we’re headed with this because his value is at his highest? I mean, are there other players on the roster that you would you would try to move now to recoup? I mean, you’re not trading Tyler for second round picks, but like is there is there anybody on the roster that you would move? move. I mean, Heismith’s in the last year of his deal, right? So, I don’t I don’t even know, you know, what you would do with that. It seems to me like he’s a player that you would throw in as a sweetener to a trade at this point. But, as you look at them as they are, what would you do? I’ll let you I’ll let you close here. Yeah, I mean, I would I would be getting value for anyone I could. So, if he’s generating some picks, I’m moving him. If uh if someone wants Haime and they’re they’re going to use him as a 10th man, I’m moving him. um if if they’re not if they don’t want to pay Tyler 50 million which I don’t know that’s obviously what he wants and the style of player is seems like it’s being a bit devalued in the NBA so maybe so maybe there’s a middle ground that works for them but my thing is you’ve seen you’ve seen he’s a guy that can’t ultimately I don’t think he can do it in the postseason which matters to me more than all the accolades all the six man of the year all the all-star appearances I don’t care if you can’t do it in the postseason, I’m okay with you moving on. And my fear with them is either they get to a point next summer where it’s like they either bring him back or they let him walk when you could have gotten something for him and you’re in the same spot you’ve been with the other guys. And so I think ultimately yes, I I’m moving him now if you get something decent. And the other thing Ethan just to close is I understand the Heat don’t want to take. I disagree with it, but I get it. There are other moves you can make. You can trade guys for other picks and you can use those picks and look around the league and get the next guy you want to be your starter. Wouldn’t Wiggins I just we’ll close with this. Wouldn’t Wiggins be the trigger for this now though? And I know they say they’re holding on to him until training camp. We want to see how the team looks at that point, but I I mean a big Tyler move is not happening before the season starts. We know that. Okay. It would seem to me the most the most possible thing is that a change of course here or maybe an increase in value on Wiggins and a guy who’s 30 years old. It didn’t seem like he totally connected last year. I know Spo talked about how things will be better this year. Who it doesn’t seem like they know exactly what the role is going to be. He’s a good player. He can help other teams. You may be able to get a first for him or something comparable. Is is that the player we’re talking about now? Because I the Tyler talk is interesting and I wanted to get you on the record on it, but like ultimately we know they’re not trading Tyler right now. That’s not happening. This it’s not happening anytime this before the end of this season. Yeah. My thought is if and I may maybe they’re holding out for the first for Wiggins and I think that’s kind of where they are. If you can essentially get a 2027 pick, the one that you give up for Rosier and slot that in and then you have four picks available next summer to make a move. I think that’s the smart move. I I’m willing to give up like if they’re like Wiggins going to help us so much this year. Ethan Ethan, I don’t care. They’re not winning this year. So, if Wiggins gets you the pick that you need and it and it knocks you down a peg in order to be more flexible and have picks next summer when I’m pretty confident Giannis answers I’m not going to say his name right. When a Giannis is gonna ask out, that’s where I want to be. I want to be at the front of the line being like, Giannis, you want to play, you know, do the old Panthers things, no taxes down here. You want to win? You want to play with them who shares an agent with you? Like, I want to be at the front of the line for that. and they right now they can’t compete with other offers for Giannis. But if they bring in a pick and they have four picks available, if they have Tyler available, if they have um a bunch of guys whether Pelle turns out or Haime learns how to shoot threes, like you have a package that can work for that and that’s where I want to be. I want to be in line to get the next star or Ethan, I want to go call San Antonio and say you don’t need Dear Fox anymore. What’s it going to take to get him? Like that’s what I want to be doing. I want to be looking for the next guy because I don’t think Bam and Tyler are you’re winning with them. I don’t I don’t think it matters necessarily who you bring around them if they’re making the most money on the team. And so that’s what I’m looking for. How do I transition from Jimmy’s gone, what’s the next step? And that’s what that’s what I’m doing as a as a Heat and that’s what I want them to do as a as a fan. Like how do we get back to competing because we’re we’re stuck in the middle right now. All right. You can follow him at Hot Takehary. We wanted to give him the full platform here. I know there are a lot of Heat fans who are going to agree with this. I know there are probably some uh who are around the Heat who won’t. And that’s why we wanted to put it out there. And then I’m going to bring everything back on off the floor. Maybe we’ll do uh another podcast on it. Harry, appreciate it. Thank you very much for joining. Thank you. All right. See you soon.

There are those who would like to see the Miami Heat do some things differently: @HotTakeHarry is one. Harrison Cytryn visits with Ethan Skolnick to go over moves he would have liked to have seen the Heat make, to increase their asset chest.

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