I HATE THIS TAKE
I wanted to bring this up because honestly I just thought this was a little silly. I did see this while I was in Japan. Um, and I just saved it for later, but I I thought this was weird. Uh, so it says here, “An anonymous Western Conference scout believes that Dylan Harper could make De’Aran Fox expendable in San Antonio. Harper has some monoy to his offensive game. If the three-point shot ever becomes a true weapon for him, he makes Fox expendable and gives San Antonio a nice trade asset. This is just dumb to me. I’ll be honest. What just happened? Okay, it’s been a minute, guys. I I don’t I don’t know my controls anymore. Uh, yeah. I don’t know what just happened. What the heck was that? All right. Anyways, anyways, sorry. I I don’t know what you guys saw on your screen. Um, but yeah, I just thought this was very silly. So, first and foremost, this right here, Dylan Harper has some Genobi to his game. What kind of analysis is that? Harper has no gobly to his game. Like, that is the most vague. Like, if if I said that he has Genobbly to his game, what am I even talking about? He can finish at the rim. Like that’s so devoid of like an actual comparison. He has no Ginobi to his game. He could possibly be a six-man, I guess. Well, but that’s just such a weird a weird comparison. Like I I don’t even know what that means that he has Gobbly to his game. I I don’t know what that means. And like did Mono Genobbi make if he has Gobbi to his game, are you saying that he he could possibly be the sixman or something? And if you’re saying that, did gobbly make Tony Parker expendable? Just very dumb to me. And then just saying that he makes Fox expendable and San Antonio has a nice trade asset in that. I I I don’t know what is the obsession cuz I I’ve been seeing a lot with Spurs fans in particular. I don’t know what’s up with the obsession of trying our best to trade guys away. like we get more talent and the immediate response is who do we trade? Who do we get rid of? I I don’t understand that. Now, I will say Blake Wesley and Malachi Brandham sending them off made the most sense. I think we were talking about this a lot anyways leading up to it where I just didn’t really know how Malachi would fit anymore because his best qualities, the Spurs won’t be able to use it, right? like he’s gonna end up just being a spot-up three-point shooter. And yeah, he was good at that, but what he’s best at and what he was actually sold as in in the in the in the uh in the draft was somebody who can actually play the pick and roll and be somewhat of a three-level scorer and we just not going to have the ball in his hands to that degree, right? So, I thought that is best the Spurs just try to get a sharpshooter, right? Why why waste your time with this? Um, and then Blake Wesley was one where he definitely was expendable with the addition of Fox and Harper, right? At that point, he just became a little redundant, which I still think I still thought that he could get playing time because of his defense, but offensively he’s just redundant, right? Like you you have better versions to now better versions of what Blake Wesley could bring you, right? So, it was just kind of like h what’s the point? But with Fox and Harper, I don’t know why you will be excited to trade one away. I think a lot of people forget how good Fox actually is and how good he was before the uh thumb injury. Um, no wait, it wasn’t a thumb. It was a Was it pinky? Which finger was it? Chat, which finger was it? I can’t I can’t even remember which finger it was now. It’s been a while. Why am I tripping? Pinky. Okay. I thought I thought maybe it was the pinky. Um, but yeah, he I mean, yeah, before the pinky injury, he was incred and and even even after that, like with the San Antonio Spurs index, I believe. Okay, it wasn’t the pinky, so no one knows. Was it the index finger? I remember him showing it. Or was it his ring finger? Was it his ring finger? I could easily Google this, but I’m I’m having too much fun. Some dumb fan was trying to argue to Trey Fox for Oh, that’s really dumb. Trey Fox for Derek White. Um, definitely Pinky. Okay. All right. Pinky on shooting. Okay. All right. Okay. Yeah. So, anyways, um, yeah, I just I just thought that it was, you know, it’s ridiculous because even with that injury, uh, he had some really good showings with San Antonio. He only played like 15 games and he barely played I don’t did he play with Wimi at all? Like he played just a few games with Wimi. So yeah, I I think that people really need to uh chill out with the whole he’s expendable. I don’t know what you’re talking about. If anything, they compliment each other, right? And I think that Dylan Harper is a player that even if that’s another thing, too, like a lot of people are saying like he’s a player that just needs the ball in his hands. Uh like De’Aran Fox, and it’s like no, they they’re similar a little bit, but not really. Right. Dylan Harper is a really great offball player. Like his offball cuts, uh, his percentages are very high. His catch and shoot um, percentages are very high. So, I don’t really understand the notion that, you know, if he develops this, then now De’aran Fox doesn’t work or I I don’t really understand that. If anything, they would just work better together. And also, why even be excited to try to trade away Darren Fox when he’s literally either you can either argue that he’s in his prime or he’s about to go into his prime. So, I I don’t I don’t understand this. I don’t understand this at all. Um it seems like we keep adding talent and then people want to strip it away or get nervous and say, “Well, we got too many of this thing.” Um whereas last year, not even last year, let’s not say last year, like the last few years or a few years back, uh we would have been arguing for we need more of this thing, right? And now that we have it now, everybody just worried and scared and and I know the CBA has a lot of like Spurs fans shook, but at the same time, we we the Spurs know what they’re doing and they’re going to plan this out accordingly, right? Um so we’ll be fine. I’m not really worried about uh contracts, per se. Um I don’t think we even need Fox as trade value. A lot of players are going to want to come play for San Antonio. Wouldn’t have any trouble recruiting. I just I just don’t I’m just not excited to talk about trading Fox when like we haven’t even gotten to see him play with the team yet. Like that’s so silly. let Harbor develop it for three years, which is about the length of Fox extension. Decide after that on moving Fox or not. Yeah, that’s how the Spurs are doing everything. You know, they’ll be fine. You just re-evaluate in a few years. Figure it out. Uh Spurs management already made a comment. They’re high on Fox and see a future with them. Yes. Like, yeah, Fox is that good. I I think it’s so crazy, man, because like when I say that we’re spoiled, this is what I’m talking about. Like Fox is really good. People were getting on to me. I I saw this uh briefly cuz like I said, I I wasn’t I wasn’t here, but I saw this briefly. Um like people were getting upset with a comment I said where I said um uh Fox is like a top five point guard in the NBA. Like, okay, if you don’t believe that, that’s that’s fine, but like, could you at least give them top seven? Hold on. Let me see if I can give me a second. Let’s see. Cuz I think I I think there was a um let’s see. I think there was some discourse on Twitter a few weeks back. I wonder if I can find it. I don’t know if I can find it right off the bat, but people were talking about top point guards and they thought it was so silly to put him in that conversation at all, but in actuality, it’s not that crazy. Hold on. If I type in Fox, what do you guys think? Chat, you get any manga from Japan? Nah, I didn’t get much from Japan cuz since I’m going to be moving there anyways, I I just didn’t want to bring a bunch of stuff over and then bring it back. You know what I mean? Uh, shoot. I’m having a hard time finding the discourse. It was that long ago, I guess. It was that long ago, guys. Let’s see here. It was like some serious discourse and I can’t find it anymore. I’m going to lose it. I guess I should give up on this. Oh yeah, I was pretty mean to this person. So, uh, he said this idiot. Yeah, this is it. I think this is it. Said Brian Wright gets a top five point guard for nothing. And then a few people were like, he’s not top five. I don’t think it was this. I don’t think it was this thread, but it still holds true, right? So, like, so when you look at uh Darko uh and LeBron, pretty sure they just say it that way. Uh you can see that Hallebertton and uh Dame were injured. So, these are the players that were ahead of him. Okay, so the players that were ahead of him were Hallebertton, Dame, SGA, Luca, Curry, uh Trey, and Brunson. and Murray was on there as well, which I just not not DeJonte Murray, uh Jamal Murray, and I was just like, well, I do think that he’s better than Brunson and Jamal Murray, right? And I don’t think the uh the Darkhos were that off from it. Um but everyone else, I was like, yeah, I would agree that they’re better than him, but Hallebert and Dame aren’t here right now, so I’m not going to count them. Sier, Luca, Curry, Trey, Fox, I would put them in the top five. I don’t think that that’s crazy, but a lot of people thought that that was like genuinely crazy. I saw I saw the Discord somewhere else. It might not have been this cuz this this didn’t this this wasn’t crazy engagement. It think it was something else. Anyways, I don’t know. That’s all I have to say. I don’t even know what we were talking about looking for this. I kind of forgot what we were talking about. I’ll be honest, chat. Uh De’Arren Fox. De’arren Fox. Yeah. Saying that he’s expendable is just silly. He’s really good. Let’s not just throw away a top five, if you disagree, top eight at least top eight point guard, top 10 point guard, um away just because I don’t know, we got more talent. Like I I think that’s silly. We don’t have to do any of that right now.
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15 Comments
Off-season takes are the worst
Me to clan me to
I have watched my favorite sochan glazer so much I go into comment sections and battle with anyone who dislikes anything about him or the spurs
So, we only want 1 DeAron Fox instead of 2? Is this a cap space argument?
Who would we even trade fox for??
What are the odds that it's the same guy that said Wemby is "not impactful at all on offense"?
It’s because they are both left handers with smooth handles I see why they are saying it but it definitely a long shot rn… it’s not just an insane comparison tho I’m usually with you tho clan !
Ginobli to his game by crafty tricky finishing at rim, attacks rim good, good defense, cutting. Manu never really was a mid range shooter.
fox won't get the max, they'll give contracts to wemby, castle and harper. have a similar core to okc but i don't think castle/harper are as good as sga and jdub honestly ^^
Jesus. Do people even watch the games or just listen to disneyspn?
Castle is a wing that can handle the ball. He's not a ball dominant guard.
Fox is a combo guard who is as good at scoring or as a playmaker.
Harper is a wing that was forced to play point in college. Yes he can handle the ball, yes he can pass.
What's with this Americans thinking that basketball can only be played the james harden way? Did they even watch the 2014 spurs?
All manu, tp, bobo and timmy would all take turns playmaking.
Having 5 playmakers on the court is a blessing not a curse. Unless we go play american style basketball where one guy hold the ball 95% of the time ala lebron or harden.
Fox shot 39% from deep with only half of those assisted the year before. he shot 33% in unassisted 3s. Let that sink in. 33% unassisted contested 3s off the dribble is elite.
Everyone understands that we’re not contenders right? So in order to get better as a team, the roster needs improvement. Projecting development is a real thing, but it’s based on a lot of assumptions. If Dylan gets to level where he can match fox in terms of skill and impact, or it becomes abundantly clear the he will soon, then trading fox just makes sense to me. I don’t think people understand what we could get for fox. To be competitive in the West you need to assemble an extremely cohesive squad. The roster obviously has holes. As a person, it makes me uncomfortable to have this take but from a detached position it seems like the right thing to do.
Side note: I wish analysts and spurs fans would stop trying to compare this team to the old spurs teams. We’re structured completely different, the team identity is completely different. Just doesn’t make sense anymore.
People need to put some respect on Fox’s name. We have 2 of the best up and coming guards in Fox and Harper that is amazing. What we still need is a little more size and strength if possible
deaaron fox is not better than brunson 😭
I mean, Harper's a 6'6" attacking lead guard player who is a walking paint touch, has strong finishing ability, a high level of feel for the game, and is a ball hawk defensively. The only thing he doesn't have of Manu is the flashy passing. I get the Manu Ginobili comparisons.
I don't think that that makes Fox expendable. Having both Fox and Harper is awesome. As is having Castle.