Is This Domantas Sabonis Trade a Celtics Overpay?

Is This Domantas Sabonis Trade a Celtics Overpay?

Welcome back to home my banner. Adam and back with you. So it is mock trade season. A lot of people are wondering if the Celtics are going to make another move, if they’re going to, you know, maybe work in the margins or are they going to make a blockbuster type deal. And so with that, let’s go to Bleacher Reports. Connor Toms with this mock trade proposal. As you take a look at this, Celtics get Damontus Sabonis from Sacramento and the Kings receive receive Anthony Simmons, Sam Hazard, George Nyang, Namish Quueta, and two first round picks. Okay, so that had people fired up. Yeah. On social media. And let’s start with the Rob version one. That was an overpay for Boston. Cut it down to a first round pick given the quality of other players in the deal is more than fair. But Michael KD 3ZJ Kings would be crazy to do that. Boston would be crazy not to. Lol. As we move along. Yeah. What’s uh Cro? No. No. We’ll talk about Crow the Crew. We’ll come back. We’ll come back. Let’s talk Let’s talk this trade. All right. Let’s talk the trade first and we’ll get to the Hower comment. We’ll bring that comment back up on the screen when we get to it. Let’s just talk about the trade proposal itself. You have uh two individuals on two very different sides. Where do you land? So, I was all in on this Celtics trade. I thought it would be a good trade for the Celtics. I thought it wasn’t too much of an overpay in my personal opinion just because I don’t think second round picks would mean anything to a a championship level Celtics team, right? You’re bringing in you’re getting rid of Anthony Simons who once again um has name just been floated out there. Expiring contract. You’re taking on a big, which we’ve talked about a little bit, how having that premier big could help out the Boston Celtics in the future. And you have three years of control of this dude. Then there’s the Sam Hower, the Nyang, the Kada part of this who all have been okay. And you know, that’s why we’ll get to the crot the crude comment in a second cuz he was upset with what I had to say about Sam Hower. But, you know, my opinions is is that this would be a good trade for the Boston Celtics. I didn’t know if the Kings would accept. That’s where I was at. Would the Kings accept this? That’s where I was. I think they would because I think they are looking for a premier point guard, especially with Fox leaving, with, you know, Tyresese Hallebert leaving. They’re looking for somebody who can score and playmake at a high level, which Simons does. And then a good shooter and Sam Hower, which they’ve always continuously been looking for shooters. They drafted ones over in the first round over the last couple of years because they’re looking for that. And then with the Niang and the Kada, it brings some championship experience, some highlevel defenders and stuff like that and guys that can protect their rim, you know. So, I thought it was a good deal for them. But, I mean, what do you feel? Uh, I feel like this is an excellent trade for the Celtics. I feel like this is a eh deal for the Kings. Okay. I think in terms of the Celtics need, which we’ve talked at length about, Damont Sabonis would fill that big need in a big way. loved Deontto Simon’s games, leading the league in rebounding several years, just a presence inside and the Celtics could use that obviously this season and beyond when Jason Tatum comes back to full strength. In terms of the Kings end, I mean, I don’t care as much about that, but if I were to look at this, I would say, all right, well, this team was 40 and 42 last year. They got knocked out in the playing game. They’re looking to blow this thing up after the the Fox trade, which you mentioned. And so, Sabonis reportedly not too happy about that either. And so, you know, what are you left with in Sacramento? You’re left with a team that’s sort of in a now a sort of rebuild rebuild, right? Right. And and that might not be a bad thing for them. So, uh maybe they would look at it as a good thing. So, yeah, that’s sort of where I land. I would love to see this happen. Oh my gosh. Absolutely love to see this happen. Yeah, I I agree. I mean, even if it means giving up Sam Hower and his lights out shooting. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go to crude. Go ahead. Throw it to crude. Let’s bring up that tweet. All right. Hey, listen. Hower’s hit 40 plus% of his threes every single season since college. Every single season. Are these two sniffing glue? Okay. All right. So, you got fact check? Yeah. So, you know, I I went into the comments in of our last video. Couldn’t help yourself. And I, you know, couldn’t even wait to hold my banner. I couldn’t, you know, because I, you know, it was like four or five days in between last episode and I just had to let CR the crew know like, hey, man, what about his playoff numbers, right? Because I said he was an inconsistent shooter, that he was streaky and all this other stuff, and he said, you know, he came back and he was like, 2024 is a great sample size, blah, blah, blah. I read the comment. I’m here to talk to you, Crow. Put the camera. Put the camera. There it is. I’m here to talk to you, Crow. All right. So, I I absolutely love that you’re writing for Sam Hower. I played against Sam Hower as Adam knows in college and I I’m a fan of his game, but the inconsistencies have been there. We’re going to start off not in 2024 because you said, “Oh, that’s a larger sample size.” 30 of his 49 games played in the playoffs were played outside of 2024. He played 19 games in the playoffs in 2024 cuz won the NBA championship in which he was 16 for 48 from 3%. So that’s 33% from the three-point line over those course of those games of 49. Not 40. Not 40. Okay. All right. Then league average. I just wanted to know what league average was. 35% since he’s been in the league in the playoffs. Below league average. So he’s below league average over the last three years. So that’s, you know, all right. He was one of the four years. He was one of the four years he was above over league average, which was 2024. So, I will give him credit credit for that. But let’s take a look at him at 2024 cuz I need to deep dive into the streakiness of all of this, right? You know, he shot 38% which is slightly above leave average. I’ll give him credit for it. All right. In the 2024 playoffs versus Cleveland, a whole series. Yeah. 3 for9 from three. That’s 33% for the people who are worried about it at home. Okay. Against Indiana. Mhm. A whole series. Mhm. He was 1 for4 from three. Adam, less than 40%. That’s a lot less than 40%. So in backto back series, yeah, during a 2024 playoff run, he’s 4 for 23 from the field. That’s 17% from three, Adam. So in order to get up to 38 over the entire playoffs, you got to have some really hot streaks and you got to have some cold streaks in there. Even against Miami, he had a game where he was one for five from three. A game where he was 0 for two from three against Dallas in the NBA championship in the NBA finals. A game where he was 0 for five in game two. Mhm. So yeah, he got the games where he was high. He was reeling and he was four for six and he was five for eight and those brought his percentages up, but that is the point of streakiness. He’s not there consistent every single game. So that’s why I say Boston Celtics fans who are really paying attention to who Sam Hower are is are not excited with his ability to help them out in playoff games. Regular season is great 40%. Yeah, he did that. You are completely correct. Cro the crew on that. But guess what? What do they call Boston, Adam? City of champions. City of champions. I don’t care what you do in the regular season. I only care what you do for me when it’s time to win that chip. Hold on, man. I got to cool you down a little bit, Aunt. My goodness, that seat is hot. Woo! All right, Cro just uh Yeah, you see that flag? Yeah, the Ligh for Cro. RIP, man. No, it’s all good. Hey, listen. This wasn’t meant to be a Sam Hower hatefest. come across that way because to your point, you played against him. We’ve seen him in action, he’s been good. But like my thing is if he’s a part of a deal to bring a allstar player Mhm. in a position of need to your team, you do it in a heartbeat. No disrespect to any of the players here, especially Anthony Simons, which I again like he’s the player that you look at and you say, “All right, he’s he’s got an expiring deal.” Yeah. you know, where does he fit longterm for the Celtics? And it doesn’t look like that he would right in this particular scenario. Like you’re getting a guy that would definitely fit right away. So, I’m cool with that. Um, but like the 25 26 team that we’re looking at here, right? Cuz there’s a lot of talk about two years from now when Tatum comes back and all stuff, you know, what what’s their potential, right? And and that’s something that um our guy Leo Droia, he gave his take on. Yeah. This might be a 41 win team at best. Now, what’s the number? Yeah. So, Vegas right now, 42 and a half is the line for the Boston Celtics for 25 26. Okay. Yes. So, as the roster stands right now Mhm. 42 and a half probably seems like a an interesting number. Yeah. I’d probably take the over on that. Yeah. You know, if if again Jaylen Brown’s healthy. Jaylen Brown’s taking the reigns of this team and saying this is my team. Let’s go. Derek White’s healthy. He’s Peyton Pritchard, you know, does what he does last year and a little bit more. Like everybody needs to do a little bit more. Yeah. Right. And if you got Simons on the roster, he needs to take that next step to be that number two score to Jaylen Brown. Right. Right. All those things need to work out. Um and you need maybe a young guy to pop. Maybe Jordan Walsh, you know, carries some of that momentum for the summer league and he becomes a viable piece off the bench for this team. Yeah, 100%. And I think when you’re looking and in this Eastern Conference, too. Yes, that’s exactly where I was going to go. When you’re looking around the East and I’m looking at the standings right now here in front of me. Orlando was 41 wins last year and they missed their stars for France Vagner and Paulo Ban Carol for long stretches of that season last year, right? And they ended up 41 and 41. And then you look at the teams ahead of them. You look at Detroit who’s having issues trying to fill in their, you know, front court with, you know, um, Schroeder leaving with Beasley dealing with the off the court issues, you know what I mean? So, I don’t know if they’re necessarily going to get better. I talked about Milwaukee. They’re not going to probably Well, we don’t know. We don’t know what that’s going to look like, right? We don’t Indiana Pacers, we for sure know that they’re probably not going to be better than they were last year. The Knicks have some inconsistencies. And I would I would bank on the fact that the Cleveland Cavaliers aren’t going to be as hot as they were last year. They’re still going to probably lead the the East, you know what I mean, coming out and going into the playoffs, right? They should be favored to win the East, right? Yeah. So, they’ll probably be still the the best team in the East, but I don’t think they’re going to be at 64 wins, you know what I mean, when we’re heading into the playoffs. So, if you’re looking at that, that means there’s wins on the table for somebody to go get. And this Celtics team, I feel like, can go get some of those wins. I think we’re still forgetting that they do have a Derrick White. They do have a Jaylen Brown. You know what I mean? They do have a Peyton Pritchard. That’s a good starting point for a team in the East that is as depleted as it is right now. I tell you, man, you look at the Eastern Conference, the more we talk about it, the more I look at it and say, man, it is not great, right? You know, I mean, compared to the West, which I know we’re going to talk about the Western Conference and the offseason for those teams coming up uh in just a few minutes, actually. Um, but like comparatively, you know, with the Tatum injury, you know, with the situation happening in Milwaukee, you know, with the the Pacers missing Hallebertton and Miles Turner is now in Milwaukee. Yeah. You know, you’re spreading. I mean, it does open the door for some of these other teams, you know, that might be on the cusp. I know you mentioned the Pistons. Yeah. You know, I mean, why not? Why not Detroit, right? the jump that they last year and now looking at them take the next step if they can figure things out a little bit and even Atlanta’s going to come up win some games you know what I mean and then a Miami Heat team that yes we aren’t excited about but if we’re talking about the ifs of health right like if Tyler Herro is going to stay healthy bam out of bio now they have Andrew Wiggins hopefully he stays healthy and available cuz he wasn’t always available towards the end of his warriors tenure which is why they were you know willing to move him move on from him. But you got the DaVon Mitchell, you got the Killers, like you know, you have a hopefully a health healthy um Haime Hakez, you know, there’s a lot of Duncan Robinson. This team could be a team like we’re all forgetting about them, but like in a battered Eastern Conference that could go up and get a couple wins as well. So, it’s wide open. The Celtics, I’m with you. I agree. I think the Celtics are going to probably float. It’s going to be close. If I were betting this line, it’s this is what Travis calls a nailbiter. You’re going to be sweating your bet on this one for sure. Um, but I would say the Celtics should be closer to 44 to 45 wins. Yeah, I know you guys are going to talk about the Eastern Conference on Thursday’s uh what day is this? Thursday episode of Hold My Banner. Uh, but Norman Norman Powell too, right? Miami, you know, that was another huge that the Heat made. So, like a move like that in a conference that is sort of wide open can really swing swing the pendulum, right? If you’re talking about a stack conference, one move might not do it, but like one move in this Eastern Conference, you know, could get you, you know, a much higher seed and and a much better starting point in the postseason. 100%. And, you know, it’s, you know, it’s funny that you bring up Norman Pal because he’s going to come in there and automatically have a easy role because, you know, Terry, we talked about the offthec court issues that Beasley’s dealing with, but Terry Rosier is also dealing with some off the court issues in the same vein. You know what I mean? And so, um, there’s going to be a lot of, you know, I like Terry Rosier, but when you have him and Tyler Herro on the court together, you know, the ball can slow down just a little bit, you know. So, now you have a lot of guys who are out there who are, you know, spacers, ball movers. Um, they’re hoping that, you know, Yo Yovic can come up and, you know, give them some real minutes this year cuz over the last couple years, they’ve been, you know, trying to pepper him in and figure it out. And now, like how we’re hoping a Baylor Sherman can do some things for us this year. They’re hoping that he can, you know, step up and do some good things. And from what I saw in summer league, you know, I really like his game and not taking too much stock into that. But, you know, they have a team that could come up and get some wins. The Eastern Conference is wide open and I don’t see any reason going back to this comment why the Celtics couldn’t be a team that takes some of those wins. I’m with you on Baylor Shyman, man. I’ve been banging on that drum a little bit and I like his game and again you know there are some deficiencies as they are with any young player and obviously you know we’re not talking about a top 10 pick here and Shyman but for a team that has some opportunity available this year Shyman’s a guy that you should look at to maybe uh grab that potential but I don’t want to steal Casey’s thunder talk about the Eastern Conference you could run back this clip because you got a little bit heated there and I I kind of like that you know I shouldn’t say heated I should just say like, you know, excited, fired up, you know, bring back this clip, have her react to it. I mean, I don’t want to produce your show for you, man, but that I mean, that could be something. Especially the Ben Simmons rant. Oh, baby. I love that.

Did the Celtics really just give up all that for Sabonis in this mock deal? Fans are sounding off on a wild trade proposal that would send Domantas Sabonis to Boston in exchange for Simons, Hauser, Niang, Queta, and two firsts. Some say it’s a steal. Others say it’s robbery… by the Kings. Plus, the Sam Hauser slander is getting out of control and one fan thinks the 2025-26 Celtics are barely a .500 team.

All part of the chaos on Hold My Banner with Adam Pellerin and Ountae Campbell. Click here for the full episode: https://youtu.be/Xi3DW4Rd57Q

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