Hot Takes or Toast: Hot Takes or Toast: The Jazz get Georges Niang & two future seconds for RJ Lu…

Hot Takes or Toast: Hot Takes or Toast: The Jazz get Georges Niang & two future seconds for RJ Lu…

DJ PK, it is time for the question of the morning. The Jazz did it. PK, it is hard to get more comments on a Jazz question in August when college football is ramping up. You would think the college football question will get more, and we will get to that, but the Utah Jazz made a trade. George Niang in two future seconds for RJ Lewis. What’s up with that? Or as PK put, “What up with that?” I’m trying to sound cool and younger. You were just complaining about somebody’s grammar in the break and you go, “What up with that?” But that’s the expression. It is the expression. I didn’t make it up, but it’s missing a verb. And you know, you were just talking about grammar, chalkboard, my ears. I urge it, right? But that’s intentional is fine. Unintentional. Aha. Riot says, “Well, they said they were going big game hunting.” No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pops said it. Yeah, that that’s that’s a that’s a Danny quote, not an Austin, right? Yeah. So, he he never said that. I mean, it’s a new day. It is a new You can’t hold Austin responsible for what happened before he got the job. It’s the age era. Age decisions. One era, one rebuild. No, no, no, no, no. One team, one rebuild. I mean, I realize it’s father son, but nonetheless, it’s somebody ever making a decision. Yeah. Kyle says it’s okay. Every family needs a minivan. I don’t. You don’t need a minivan. Never had the numbers. I rented a minivan one time, but I’ve never owned one. Yeah. So did I. For a while, I did have the numbers. Yeah. A short uh short six months. Uh but uh yeah. So, uh, this is something that, you know, you it’s you accumulate assets. Second rounders, I don’t know what they’re worth, but I would rather have them than not have them and find out what they’re worth. Yeah. They weren’t going to use a trade exception on anything else. So, yeah, grab some second rounds. And then it’s just just said future. So, I have no idea. They may have them by the time they utilize them. I may probably will be dead. You’re just killing yourself on a regular basis. Try working with you. Nice Tony. Yeah, they got more draft assets. That’s basically the reason I I doubt he stays in Utah. Tony expecting another deal. Why not? He could he could be another Mark Eaton and just establish his entire life here. He could Bailey. He could do that. Any other Jazz guys? Are they the only two who stayed the whole time or came back or whatever or never left, however you want to look at it. Uh, well, they did it in such a high-profile way. I really think D will is here quite a bit from what I hear, but I don’t hang out with him, so I don’t really know. I mean, we did interview him a few times. I thought you did. Well, I mean, I knew about Mark and Thor because I see him so much. I don’t know about He will. I don’t see him as much, but I I do have the No, I don’t. Why don’t you ask again? Because it’s obvious. Why are you telling us there ain’t nobody within the sound of our voice that expects old white man to be hanging around with Dwill? I do think I do think he’s here quite a bit. Carlos Boozer is too. Yeah, Boozer is now too. Uh I think uh Tom Chambers comes up in the uh off seasons because he gets out of place up in the mountains outside Valley of the Burning Sun. Yeah. So, yes. Uh and and he has a history here obviously, right? Although he’s he’s barely what we would consider a jazz jazz man, right? He was just right at the end two years at the end, right? Yeah. Maybe although Rudy’s kept a place here from what we understand, he has. Joe has his on was on the market. I don’t know if it sold. I looked at it and figured out I couldn’t afford it. Did the math. Yeah, this is going to work. The numbers just watched him and it did just didn’t work out. No. Jeff says if they were going to bring someone back, I was hoping for Joe. Joe. Well, yeah. I don’t think that was ever a possibility. Uh, you know, with Niang, he’s a veteran. He can show the young guys how to behave. It’s professional. He can be that voice of calm in the uh locker room. And then like the last voice of call in the locker room, he can get traded mid-season to a team that needs somebody after barely playing. After barely playing. Yeah. I can’t imagine they want him to come in here, shoot 39.9% from the floor, which I think is his career number now at the three-point line. And uh come in and make a bunch of threes and win some games and no. Take time away from the development of the young guys. That no. So I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved. Well, yeah. I I get that. I I think what’s important though and I understand exactly what you’re saying and we all do I think that there is competition and the good thing the way that uh doublea has set this up is that the competition will be there but it’ll be among the young guys so you don’t have to worry about somebody else who is older taking time away with them at the expense of these younger kids here someone’s Someone’s going to get their time taken away. Someone’s going to get their time given to them, but not given isn’t the right right word. Earned. So, that’s the cool thing is they’ve got a bunch of youngsters that are all trying to make their mark. Who’s going to play 10 minutes, who’s going to play 20, and who’s going to play 30, and it’s going to be up to them to sort that out. But to your point, there’s 11 guys battling for that, right? Am I doing the math right? Three draft picks three years in a row, plus Kler, plus marketing. And that’s what’s really cool about this is all right guys, what do you got? You all want the same thing. That’s a fact, right? You want PT. That’s going to lead to more PT. That’s going to lead to more money. Blah blah blah. Everybody wants that. And so now Will Hardy has a huge cast of characters here to where he doesn’t have to worry about sitting them coming up with bogus reasons, sitting them in the second half, yada yada. Austin told us that. That’s essentially what he was saying and I believe in what he said 100%. And so now you got all these guys. You know, it’s it’s a little tricky to me what they’re going to do with marketing. And so far I I don’t know what they’re going to do. The the stuff that was told to me in June was the other guys were gone. I came in, I said the other guys were gone, but I didn’t know about marketing because the other guys, you can essentially give them away and be okay with it. Well, you cannot give market in away. He’s too good to be given away, right? And so you have to have if you get 70 cents on the dollar for John Collins, well, so be it. That’s the way it goes. And that’s all you were going to get. And it wasn’t like you can go over here and get 85 cents. It was universal. They knew what they were going to get for him. Yeah. Not necessarily literally, but generally. The issue is moving some of these guys and in another at another time they could have gotten more for him, but right now the league is capped out. There’s too many teams up against cap, luxury tax, second apron, and so there just aren’t that many places third apron. Then there is no third apron. Why not yet? Well, another collective bargaining agreement. Maybe there will be. Who knows? And they’ve got an even bigger problem with marketing because he’s $40 million guy now. But your point is too much talent to go out there and get 70 cents on the dollar for him. No, no, no. And that’s why in June when I got word and talking to people that said, “Well, we’ll see.” And so far, everything that I heard after Austin got the gig is exactly the way it’s played out, right? But I don’t know that ultimately they’re going to get 90 cents on the dollar for him. Maybe there will come a time when they think this is the best we can do and it won’t it’ll seem lopsided but they just they don’t have the leverage right now. Well, I think they can have more as we approach the trade deadline and teams are uh juxtop positioning for standings and they’ve got something there but they need a little bit more and marketing is a quality player and there is literally not a team in the league he could not help. an owner may gulp and say, “All right, let’s do it. We’ll pay it because we’re so close to winning big and we’re going to make so much money in the playoffs. Let’s do it.” It could happen. Gosh, there’s a lot of teams he could help. I can’t I can’t think of any team he couldn’t help in in the West. But again, I don’t think the reason that they’re getting, you know, less than a full value is because of basketball. I think it’s because of the money issues weighing on. Well, yeah, but full value is full value and full value is relative, right? Yes. Agree. So you’re looking to get full value in the situation as it presents himself itself with the circumstances you just explained. So you can get full value there. Mhm. I mean he’s not uh you know a world beater who said okay boys get on my back. Right. He’s not one of he’s not one of the top 25 players in the game but he is one of the top 50. He can help you. Yeah. Especially uh where you know he slides in as a third option. uh all that he’s got and they’ll they’ll see you know they’ve got what do they got coming up he’s working out for Finland whatever I I can’t world whatever Eurob I think it’s a European champ yeah so if you had any doubts basically he used this past season as a training for this and all these foreign guys they can never admit it but the foreign stuff way means way more than the NBA and for a country like Finland they’re not going to do anything in Olympics so whatever they can do in Euro basket is their best chance to shine yeah so they in the US, the league is the most important. I I just don’t think that these guys who come over that it is as important. It’s the other stuff. It’s the representation for the country. So, if you doubted his ability, this year wasn’t a good season, blah blah blah. Well, go scout him here and you’ll see he’ll he’ll he’ll light it up. Yeah, he’s really he’s good. So, they’ve got a lot of opportunities here to really explore and within the rebuild, which has sucked, sucked, and sucked. This is the most excited that I am to to date. There’s plenty of more growth for excitement, that’s for sure. And plenty of more opportunities for much much much better times. I understand that. But this season offers the most intrigue and the most, hey, I want to watch. Maybe by the time I get to February, I’ll be tired of watching them get their brains beat out. But I don’t think so. I don’t think that’ll be the case. If players performances are a constant, I think it will be the case, but these guys should be improving. If they’re improving and you’re learning new things about them, then I think that’ll renew your interest. You know, if someone is really developing, even if it’s not leading to W’s, if it passes the eyeball test and you can see a player developing, what do they have in this guy, whoever that guy is, aside from marketing, right? We’ll be able to see development and we’ll be able to see who belongs, who thinks they belong, who definitely does belong. I mean, you saw with Cody Williams last year. He was a lad among men and he looked like he was 14 years old and he had no business being out there. All right. Well, now we’ll be able to see what he looks like going against other guys in the league and what level of improvement he’s made. It goes, it’s a it’s every single guy. There’s like there’s so many of them that be able to judge and I find that fun. That may be part of the debate. Maybe one of the guys is breaking out. And then in another case, maybe it’s like, well, this guy isn’t, but I think they ought to give this guy a look, but he’s 12minute guy right now, and this other dude over here’s 34-minute guy. Yes. And the fact that they got a top three player who slipped to them for whatever reason, doesn’t matter. Now, that adds to it all because first and foremost, it will all be about Ace Bailey in terms of the most attention. and it’ll check from there. Go down and who else? I mean, Philip Powski. Gosh, you know, summer league. But he he lit it up again. And and then it’s like, all right, you got something here, man. Can you I don’t expect you to be MVP of the league. I don’t expect you to be allstar, but can you really make this team better? Are you really a borderline big-time player? I don’t want to uh slab big time player with him right now in his uh what uh what season is he going into second uh are you something that’s that’s one thing right there one example and there’s seven eight other examples and I know if you’re all about winning and winning is the only thing that matters to you have that right as a fan to say I don’t care about that I just want to win blah blah blah I understand that completely Ely, but that’s not the situation. And it’s up to the individual, him or her, that fan, can she or he answer to themselves, hey, I’m going to I’m going to be in this year because I want to really see the development. What do we got here? Who’s going to take that next jump? And Ace Bailey, what do you have? Highest pick since XM, right? Mhm. Uh and uh they don’t get that they don’t get a pick that high that many times because the franchise has been really good over decades and now you got one here and you probably got one. This is the one time I I always laugh when I hear, oh, we had him much higher. This this time I think it applies. He was number three in the mock drafts for so long, right? Because once you get down to 15 and you’re drafting 17 and you had him at 12, well that what’s the difference? Who cares? Yeah, that doesn’t seem It’s also not surprising. But here this high and they wasn’t going to play, didn’t work out, blah blah blah. Didn’t want to be here, yada yada. Well, all that stuff’s out the window. Now you get to play ball. And did you get a really, really good player that’s going to develop and be a cornerstone? That is plenty for me to want to turn on the television or go to the arena to watch him and them play. And Hardy gets to coach now. He gets to use the roster and he can strategize and he doesn’t know who’s playing today, who’s not playing today, blah blah blah. Who do I have to sub in the fourth quarter because he’s playing really well. That was big for you. You’ve brought that up many times. Yep. and then losing along the way and just down the road. AJ, it could happen. As Threll likes to say, a kid who it could happen. Clearly likes it here. He chose to come here. Nice. He’s see where you’re going. Yeah, he chose to come here. I mean, think about that, man. When have we had an African-American NBA player who chose to come here? You could say Damen Lillard, but mindboggling as it may be, how many options did he have? Right. Whereas AJ had literally every option he ever wanted. Boozer came as a free agent. He came for money. Get out of town. But nonetheless, he came here. for money. He did. Guy’s not stupid. He went to Duke. Okay. Andre Miller then. Andre Miller chose to come here. He did. Chose to stay here, too. Nonetheless, we’ve just run a pretty complete list of 25 years. It was pretty short. It was pretty short. And this Devonso willingly chose to come here. Plus, how many times did you ever see somebody who wasn’t there yet be there all the time? came came early, came often, man. Right. And stay for the show. Seems like he was here every week when he wasn’t. What What high school player has ever done that? I mean, he had the cache of being the number one player as if uh you know, that’s a great designation, but I would have settled for number three and be just fine. Uh we’ll see. I saw something uh the other day that said the odds are now uh what’s that Darren kid’s last name out of Kansas? Peterson. Darren Peterson. Yeah. That he now has the highest odds to be taken number one next year. Oh, AJ, if that doesn’t give you a chip on the old shoulder, I don’t know what does, what doesn’t. I mean, come on. Go down there and give him the I got good news and I got bad news. Yeah. Yeah. And bad news, you’re not number one. Good news. Now you got a chip on your shoulder. We don’t have to watch the Stars. We can watch BYU for the next player. May maybe maybe finally they’ll get a break there. I mean, we’ve got they’re paid in full for the other teams screwing up and letting the statues slide. They caught major breaks there, right? And they took advantage of them because they made the plays. Scott and Frank Leaden, he rest in peace obviously. And so with that in mind though, we we’ve paid up for that. The Jazz have paid. Now we need a new set of good luck to come and shine upon this. We’ve had enough suffering. We’re not San Antonio hitting again and again and again. We as a city, as a state, them across the street as an organization, they’re due for some really good luck. And I am a firm believer to quote the great philosophicer from Louisiana. What goaround comeound? There it is. Yeah, that is one of the alltime quotes. So the grammar not great. The truth spot on the point. The point spot on. Yeah, it was truth. So it was truth. Let’s see it, man. and here with all these youngsters. That’s what’s so crazy about this, man, is because, you know, it looks bleak. It’s been bleak. It looks bleak. But things can change quickly. Just a couple of bounces your way and look at it, man. You’re on. Look at Oklahoma City. My gosh. They literally might be the best example all time in the history of professional sports, not just the NBA, all time of where you were, how you were high and mighty. Then the guys leave and then you’re like, “Oh, what’s you’re almost like not even in the league. No one’s paying attention to you. All we had was the feud between Traml and Westbrook. That’s how they were making uh uh publicity, right? And they got in against the Jazz and and the Jazz sent him home and all that stuff and that was fun. And then they lose some more and then lottery great trade or great pick, great trade and they freaking win it all. They freaking win it all. It’s a roller coaster and and they’re back up at the top. Yes. So things can change dramatically. You’ve got to make the right moves and you got to get some luck. Yeah. And that’d be basically like a a dozen years. Maybe I’m off by a year. I mean, Homegrren was the luck. You finished second in that. You got you picked uh it was 14 14 years from losing the NBA finals. everything falls apart to back to winning it all because I think it was 2011 they lost to the Heat. So in the midst of losing I think there’s optimism this year. Will George Nyang be part of that or will he be gone? Depend on what they want to do. You know what what what are they looking for? And then what what can you get for him? He seems like he’s been traded every third week here recently. How old is he now? Who needs a I was gonna guess 31, but that’s a guess because he can provide some three-point shooting. Absolutely. So, if you have, you know, space for 8 million bucks, but I think if somebody had space for it, uh, he would have already already been moved. Nope. He’s 32. He’s 31 in the season. He turned 32 in June. Okay. Well, I mean, he still should be able to shoot. Yeah. Yes, he should still be able to shoot. All right, DJPK, it’s 975 the zone. We’re talking college football quarterbacks with Riley Jensen at the top of the hour. Stick away or stick around right here on the zone.

DJ & PK reacted to the Utah Jazz making a trade yesterday that netted them Georges Niang and two future second round picks in the NBA Draft for RJ Luis Jr.