What if the Spurs won the 2013 NBA Title? π
What would have happened if Ray Allen missed that shot in the corner and the Spurs beat the Heat in the 2013 finals. So look, butterfly effect this and that. I’m going to assume the Spurs still win the next year. And now all of a sudden Tim Duncan is 6-0 in the finals with four finals MVPs, the second most ever. And so like, how could you not say he’s the greatest big ever? Now the LeBron part of this is what’s weird, but I’m going to come back to him in a sec. I don’t think Manu or Tony’s legacies would be that much different. They’re still great. And same with D. Wayade. I mean, one less title hurts, but he played well in this series. Kawawaii would have his third title, meaning he’s probably unanimous top 20 all time. Although, I still think he leaves in 2019. My hottest take is I think they would have gotten rid of Chris Bosch that summer because not only did he struggle in the finals, he really struggled in the Eastern Conference Finals against the Pacers, too. Which brings us to LeBron. And people love to say that he got bailed out by Ray Allen, but like he was dominant in that fourth quarter to even give them a shot, but yeah, no one remembers that. And 3-7 in the finals sounds a whole lot worse than four and
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Or better yet, imagine if they left Timmy in for rebounding π€¦π»ββοΈ
As a spurs fan I donβt think we win in 14 if we won in 13
That 13 lost fueled the spurs so much in 14 that if the fire wasnβt there idk if they go on that run
But if they did win back to back then π₯π₯π₯
Facts people donβt never bring up how LeBron kept them in the game to be in that situation only if he hit that 3 would of been better but not go make everything
Spurs most definitely donβt win the next year I truly believe losing like they did made them insanely motivated to win. I understand 2014 mightβve been the best Spurs team ever but they never repeated with a prime big 3 I think revenge fueled them more than anything
Duncan would probably switch with LeBron all time just from this
4 6 in finals. Ur goat right?πππππππ really?
tmac would also have a ring
Do what if Derrick rose never got hurt, I think they win at least one title with jimmy and d rose
Lebron would still be the goat,
Tmac with a ring too
Tmac would also get his only title
Tim Duncan is a top 5 player and just because he wasn't flashy he isn't looked at that way
Duncan is already top 5 4 fmvp 2 mvp 15 defensive selections (most in history) still think heβs under Kareem
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video 22 of asking to bring back the "fixing your nba team in 30 seconds" videos
Danny Green wouldβve definitely been FMVP do your research pls
Do a what if len bias never died
Speaking of the Heat (as a Heat fan), nor in 2020 and 2023 we wouldβve made the finals. The Lakers still win in 2020 and probably the Celtics win in 2023
This is why all time ranking lists like top 10, top 25. Just donβt make sense to me. Like Duncan jumps from top 5-7 to top 2 for a single moment that mind you he wasnβt he in the game for?!
Well either way MJ is still the goat since LeBron took the shot and missed then needed Bosh to get a crazy rebound and swing it back out to Ray
Alright but if Danny Green wins the Finals MVP what is his legacy?
The bear would off you and cook you in that pan lol ππ
Bro if you have Kyrie and Ray Allen miss two prayers apiece Bron is 2-8
Do more what ifs!
THen LeBron would only have 2 real Chips.
We wouldβve seen 2018 Bron sooner
Kawhi and top 20 should never be in the same sentence, give me a break
Tim Duncan would be the π also Andrew everyone by now knows what LeBron did in 4th quarter of game 6 bro. U just wanted an opportunity to glaze LeBron. Speaking of which 3-7 will be a lot worse especially since the Heat in 2013 were the better team than the spurs in 2013. That would be a huge choke π .
crazy cus lebron with have only 2 before 2020 and the 2010βs would probably be called the steph or KAWHI era instead of the lebron era with Kawhi winning three
Imagine viewing going to 10 finals as a bad thing. Peoples logic makes them sound like theyβd say that
Andrew NO ! The spurs NEVER repeat and they only won in 2014 because they had IMMENSE fuel to get back and win after they practically BLEW 2013.
And if Steve Kerr and John Paxton donβt hit those shots. Jordan is 4-2
What if the pacers win 2025 nba finals with Hali injury, who gets the finals mvp?
Agree with everything besides the Kawhi part. I donβt think this title boosts him that much. Not all titles are equal. Averages 14 per game in the finals and was the third option
Because Russel has 11 rings and Kareem has just as many rings and more MVPs and finals and Wilt is more dominant. He also wasn't the best player on all of those rings. That's how. He is also a center and not a PF as well.
I have Tim above LeBron on an all time list
The what if should be what if Tim Duncan was in the game to get the rebound off of Lebricks miss instead of Bosh getting it then passing to Ray Allen
I watched that 4th quarter of game 6
He was elbowing people
Shoving Tony Parker last possession of game
Having Bosh pull down players so he can score
Passing the ball to manu with 40 seconds left on clock
Ray Allen hard fouled and manu missed a free throw along with Kawhi to
Lazy defense letting manu bully him in the paint
I watched him in OT shove and elbow Danny green in the gut and STILL missed a wide open layup πππππ and he had the actual nerve to cry and complain to the refs
If challenging was a thing in 2013 without a doubt in my mind Tony Parker would of been shorting free throws with 2 seconds left on clock
And itβs a crime Tim Duncan wasnβt in that possession where lebrick missed and got saved by Bosh and Allen
37 year old Tim Duncan dropped 30 and 17 rebounds
And u all think LeBron better πππππππππππππππππππππ
Tim Duncan would be the Goat
Allen saved lebumβs ass again ππππππ
As a Spurs fan that shot in game 6 still haunts me. Timmy should be 6 and 0 in the finals right next to Jordan
Do MJ is he went 8-0 and didnβt retire
Kawhi would have been top 10 player all time
As a heat fan who watched the entire games 6 when fans were leaving the arena, ray allen bailed us out.
Shitβ¦.tim duncan imo wouldve been a automatic top 3 player ever imo i have td at 4-5 but he wouldβve been 6-0 in the finals lol
I think in this universe LeBron, 3-7 in the finals and kawhi wins that title and goses 3-0 in the finals and having just as many rings as LeBron here and being able to stop him
Also pat riley would have broken up the big three so LeBron may never have won those post Miami rings
3-7 or 4-6 both r bad either way he ainβt the GOAT
Bron and Timmy would basically switch played Duncan would be the second best player ever and bron would drop to 4-8 range. Kareem would still be 3 ans Jordan would still be 1
If only, if only. Spurs fan here, i was at the Att center watch party. That shit was so sad leaving. π’π
The craziest thing about the Ray Allen shot is that he had been doing a drill since he was in Milwaukee where hed lie down in the paint, pop up, backpedal into the corner and shoot a 3
He had been training his entire life for that specific shot.
Timmy would be undisputed top 3 all time, LeBron would fall to top 10-12, and the spurs are in serious contention for the greatest dynasty of all time (with Russellβs Celtics)