The Knicks hire Chris Jent. Knicks vs Cavs on Christmas day.

The Knicks hire Chris Jent. Knicks vs Cavs on Christmas day.

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All the Friday fam out there joining us trying to save that dollar not going out on a Friday night. Damn right. stay here with us, too, and play it safe. Yeah, man. Yo. Yo. So, the Knicks h finally hired their associate head coach today, man. What’s good? Yeah, man. Chris J. He uh he’s a once a Nick, always a Nick, I guess. Huh? Once a Nick, always a nick. He for some of y’all don’t know you know Chris Jen I think what was the 96 97 season I believe it was he had a little quick cup of tea with the Knicks. He also had a bigger cup of tea when he was on the bench when the Rockets beat the Knicks the last time we were in the NBA. Oh, no. Not the last time we were in the finals, but but we were in the finals in the mid 90s there. The 94 one. Don’t like to relive that one, but but history is what history. Yeah, man. You know, he’s he he’s a veteran coach. You know, he’s got a long history in the NBA. you know, he’s going to be serving as Mike Brown’s associate head coach, which is when you get named that coming in, that means they hold you at at a high enough regard that when Mr. Brown gets a a tech or something, gets ejected or something happens, you’re, you know, you’re the next guy in line. So, you know, he’s also going to be the top offensive assistant, I believe, from what I was looking. You know, this uh to me, this hiring is significant because, right, it brings like a trusted voice to Coach Brown’s staff and a reputation for player development. You know, he’s an offensive guy. I’m sure I’m sure it’ll lead to all that. Nah, go ahead and do your thing, bro. Oh, okay. But, you know, like I mean, he’s had probably about two year two I mean two I think what two decades of coaching experience. Um, he’s had multiple stops as an assistant at this level or at any level. Yeah. I think I think in I think uh at all levels he’s been coaching that long cuz I know he was with no it’s actually been 20 years in the NBA. He was uh he was with Mike Brown staff in Cleveland from 2006 to 2011. And so he helped develop LeBron. I mean, technically, yeah. I mean, he was a key part, you know, and with LeBron and, you know, during his time at Cleveland, he was actually credited with helping improve LeBron James shooting percentages during that period. Wow. You know, he and you know, you and I talked about that off talked about this offair a little bit. Yeah. you know, he recently coached Sharp Hornets the NBA summer league championship in Vegas, you know, demonstrating his ability to lead a team and develop a, you know, young talent. So, you know, I think a lot of the things he brings, you know, offensive expertise, you know, I think he’s he’s actually widely regarded as a strong offensive mind. He’s he’s expected, I think, to lead the Knicks offense. which will be a key factor in improving the team scheme and player usage, you know, and and this allows Mike Brown, who’s he’s more known to be like a respected defensive coach, I think, first, but now he can focus on the team’s overall philosophy and have like a dedicated expert coach, you know, like running his offense, which is something we were kind of hoping for, you know, right? Um, and from what I understand, you know, we haven’t had this before in coaches. Um, obviously this is someone that Coach Brown respects and his voice, he’s probably going to have a voice, but he’s not just going to be just some guy sitting in the second row taking up space, you know, Nick Polo, you know, he’s actually going to have some input. I think, you know, the fact that they work together in Cleveland, it means they already have a rapport. They have like a shared coaching language and understand how to collaborate with each other. and that’s going to likely lead to a probably a smoother transition for a new coaching staff, you know. So, for me, what excites me about, you know, him is uh, you know, he he his experience as a shooting coach. Hey, for a team that needs to get their shots off. Yeah, we got some dudes that could probably use them a little bit. This is going to be valuable, you know, like which includes we do have some young players and they have some established stars. You know, Jed can help fine-tune their offensive skills, you know, and maximize their potential with Brown system, you know. Um to me, you know, this guy, he’s even though he wasn’t a huge part of it, he was a he’s an NBA champion. Sometimes when you have that view on the bench, you know, it’s it’s an experience that you take with you when you coach because, you know, we tal we were talking about this too earlier. Most of the best coaches or the coaches that tend to have a little more success were like journeyman players or ben or they want number one guys like Steve Kerr. Yeah. So like they know what it’s like to be that 11th man at the rotation or 10th man. Yeah, they’re not just going to look over their shoulder and shrug them off. They know what it’s like, you know. So to I think it’s going to be a good hire. So it’s just another line in the cap for Leon. Yeah, I fit, man. Yeah, I know a lot of people thinking Papa Rick, you know, was going to be trying to have more of a Stevie associate head coach, man. Papa Rick is yo, it is what it is. Hey, um, Phenom Nick is in the building. Real King Anddios is in the building. Um, Michelle, what’s good? Salute to all of y’all. Salute to everybody in chat, on the YouTube side, on the X side. Salute to all of y’all, man. I’m glad y’all here. Glad y’all here to come rock the spot with us. You know, Chris Jent is hired. The Knicks play on Christmas. I want to talk about Chris Jent first, though, and what he brings to the table. Um I think the most important thing coach to the whole thing is um gravity right like the what’s the difference between um Dice Yoshimoto and Chris Jent it’s huge. Yeah. Chad with the chat think about this. The difference between Johnny Bryant Dao Shimoto and Chris Jent is huge. is huge, right? DJ Cash in the building. Cash in the building. Casual. Salute the salute to Cash. But the difference between um um a Dice who we liked, right, and a Johnny Bryant who some of us loved and a Chris Jent is been there, done that, has 20 years of evidence that what he says works, right? when you’re dice, you’re like, “Hey, I’m a really um int I’m a super intelligent guy and I’m kind of learning this game and I’m going to pass everything I learned to you right now.” Right. And you have to trust it. Yeah. Right. The thing with Johnny Bryant, Johnny Bryant can say, “Man, I have relationships with guys all over the league, so clearly something I’m saying makes players better.” Right? With Chris Jent, you don’t have to search or trust, you know, maybe he has something. There are bonafideed results with Christian Jent. Bonafi where when he goes places, things happen. He’s a Jersey guy. Yeah, of course. And plus he saw the earth. Plus, he made out of diamonds. You know, everybody from New Jersey is made out of diamonds. So yeah, you know, one thing. Yeah, I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to cut you. Keep going. Yeah. And and so no, so what what I was going to say, man, about the Chris Jet thing is when you bring in guys like this, every guy may not be an endgame strategist. From my feelings have always been guys like he are always going to be in good endgame strategists. and see certain things. Things I like about things I like even more about um guys like Chris Jent is they’re borderline guys that know what it takes to play in the NBA. They just didn’t have the physical ability to to be a star in the league, but they had the motivation and drive to be in the NBA and stay around the game. You don’t get this far without some level of drive and motivation and dedication and talent and talent. You know, you’re not a guy that that like for instance, some of the guys that the Knicks had on the coaching staff, they weren’t highly sought after guys that other teams were trying to pluck. Like like there were you never heard whispers of somebody trying to pluck Daiso Shimoto. And no disrespect to him because he’s a smart guy, young guy, got a lot of stuff, got a lot of years ahead of him, right? But you but you didn’t hear um the the Oklahoma City Thunder thinking about, “Hey, we thinking about poaching Dice from the Knicks.” Nah. Right. But the Knicks had to poach Chris Jent from the Hornets. if y’all get the, you know, and so am I excited about the Chris Gent thing? Yeah, for two reasons. One, the f the associate head coach thing is finally over. They found the guy that fits and the guy willing to come here and buy into the system and is before training camp. The other thing is the only thing better than great offense is even more great offense. How does that imp how does Hey, um Johnny Davis, what’s good, man? Yeah. Hey, Cash, I’m with you. Cash, I’m with you, man. Hey. Um, I’mma put put my thing on. Put this thing out there for cash. So, the thing Yeah. So, ultimately, coach, one of the things about it is Yeah. Why not go bring in more offensive talent? Exactly. Miguel P said, “You know, they probably paid him a grip, right?” I don’t care. This day, that’s Dolan money. Miguel Pay, that’s Dolan money, man. I mean, if if if the thing about it is is I think Leon Rolls is putting putting things in place where he f he’s putting mechanisms in place where he wants it to be. um victory um failp proof like put these put all of these things in place where you’re like no excuses no excuses I I think that’s I think that’s where they’re at man no excuses man we’re we’re trying to shore up everything no holes in the boat bro we trying to get to this place and when June soon gets here. We don’t want to have any excuses, man. No, at least no none that we could have avoided. It’s my thoughts on it. I mean, this dude, he was the definition of a journeyman. Like, he he lived that grind where He hopped around. He went to Europe. He actually only played he played three game regular season games for Houston and three for the Knicks. But he played 11 playoff games. He’s one of the only people in NBA history that has played in more playoff games than regular season games cuz he’s a he’s a shooter, right? Yeah. That’s a crazy stat. Yeah. For back then he was he was a 67 shooting guard slash small forward. Yeah. That was he was just ahead of his time. Yeah. But but yeah, man, for him to I mean remember he was a CBA guy and then he did the Italy Spain thing, right? And then he went right from being a journeyman and went right to being assistant coach the following year when he finished his playing career. So this guy’s been a basketball head, bro. Like so he’s been Didn’t he have Wasn’t he uh wasn’t he like Magic’s interim coach for a little bit? I don’t know, bro. One time I remember like a 200 five something. Yeah, it was during their rough their rough patch. It was right before he went to Cleveland with Mike Brown and then, you know, he’s an Ohio State guy. He’s been he went assistant coach for them a couple times. But yeah, man. I um He was also with the Hawks from 2017 to 2022. Oo. So he had his hands on Trey Young also. Yeah. All right. All right. Okay. Trey Young was drafted in 2018. Yeah. So yeah, man. He’s He’s definitely and I’m not giving him all the credit, everybody, right? I’m not giving him all the credit. What I’m saying is is he was he was he impacted Trey Young. He impacted LeBron James. Yeah. So, Pierre Moyes is in the building. You? Yes, sir. But yeah, man. It’s um it’s you can never have enough good people in the organization. Yeah. You know, so definitely think of that and just another move that they’re doing. You sound excited, man. Yeah, man. I’m I’m I like when the teams I root for are doing their due diligence. Don’t look like they just coasting. You know what I’m saying? Yeah. or just making bad decisions after bad decisions. They have a forward. Don’t get me wrong. Cash R. Hey, what’s up? What’s up? Salute. Salute. Salute. Cash. Salute. Salute. Salute. Salute to all boss. So what do you see this as a situation that Mike Brown did this so he can concentrate more on the defensive side of the ball? No. He knows he can trust. No. No. No. I think it’s it’s like when um when Jeff Laser put together that coaching staff that took put Mike Mart’s passing game and Chip Kelly run game together in Miami. You remember you remember the year I think it was one year Miami scored like 70 points on somebody the Dolphins. Yeah. You remember that where it like every time they touched it they just they want I think that’s what they want. I think they want the ultimate. I think they wanna I think they want to um um get everything we possibly can out of their offensive weapons. Cash Coach Cash. Yes, I think so. Oh. Uh Uh oh. What happened there? Cash, can you hear us? We hear you, buddy. Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah, we hear you. Yeah, we can hear you. All right. I’m having some visual things, but if you can hear me, that’s good. Go ahead. I’m listening. Okay. Okay. Now, I I guess Freezy was asking you, you know, what your thoughts were on the Chris Jen situation. Uh, I think it’s a good hire. I think it’s a very good hire. Um, you know, you talked about his, you know, his history. um the things that he brings to the table, the fact that you know he has been he has succeeded everywhere he’s went. Um and you know definitely it’s going to be a spotlight on him. Um, and just curious to see how he’s going to use that’s I guess really the most tantalizing thing going into the season is to see how he’s going to use the pieces that we have on the court offensively. You know, what what you know, schemes and and tactics and strategy, you know, all these these things that he’s going to bring to the table. So, it it’s it’s just curious to see, you know, how this is all going to come to play with the personnel we have, right? I Hey, Cash, how you feel? Yo, when I talk basketball, do y’all feel like I’m a nerd or a snob? No. No. You You just asking a question, man. No. No. qu I always say that no question is is a is is a dumb or agnostics or or snobish question when you’re trying to seek answers man right right cuz cuz here’s the thing coach that the reason why I’m saying it in an overview type thing but what what I’m really what I’m really saying to you is all the things that you did not see in New York over the past few years. You know what I’m saying? I think we’re going to see I think we’re going to get sensory overload with stuff, right? Like I don’t know if you’re going to see um um Mitchell Robinson at the top of the key setting screens as much as we saw under Tibs. Now, what what I imagine it what I imagine is your three-point shooter coming up top to set a ghost screen, then setting a down screen for Mitchell Robinson to curl around and make himself open for the lob at the rim. But if you take that away, the screener that set the screen for Mitch is in your corner wide open. Because if you take away the lob, you can’t take away the three-point shot in the corner. We didn’t see that under Tibs, right? What we saw under Tibs is get Jaylen Brunson a screen up top, everybody get to a spot and stay where Jaylen Brunson can throw on point passes to. Because as good as Jaylen Brunson is as a passer, I’m not for sure if he is a great movement passer. Like the diff for an example, the difference between Tom Brady and and Joe Montana, right? Tom B Tom Brady is once you got his feet moving, he became wildly inaccurate, right? But if he ever got those feet set, he was deadly as a ninja assassin. Right. Right. And the thing is with Tom Brady, you know, you you know you don’t stand a chance if he get his feet set. Period. So the objective is to get him to move those feet. At the same time, Joe Montana was a movement passer like the West Coast offense. Like you’ll see those boot legs. You’ll see the short waggles. you’ll you’ll see the um um the um the play action the the quick play action with with just to show the hand to the running back as opposed to putting the football there with the running back, right? Or to curl behind the running back on those is Jay, that’s what I’m saying about Jaylen Brunson. Like Jaylen Brunson is an excellent passer from a stationary set, right? Is Jaylen Brunson going to be the guy that dribbles, jumps in the air, and throw a bounce pass to a cutter that can throw it down with two hands in traffic? Nah, you ain’t going to never see that, right? But when you bring in when you put Mike Brown, Chris Jent together now, you see things like the 45 cut, the Metti cut, you’ll see the um what’s the dude from what’s the what’s the big what’s the big from um from the Gortat screen? Y’all ever y’all ever seen Gortat? Like him and John Wall Marc. Yeah. Like when they run the screen and roll, Marcine Gortat goes down just goes down the lane like a fullback just hunting the first thing that moves and all John Wall did was just follow him down the lane and dunk it. You don’t get to see things like that in our offense because because we chose not to risk making turnovers at all. Right. I think you I think you got you got the the entire knowledge of off offensive basketball at your disposal. You have everything you need. What what what element of NBA basketball do the Knicks not have to have a great offense? Right. You have a scoring point guard. You have a big that can rebound and score and shoot the three. You have elite wing players, right? You have an elite scorer off your bench. You have a big off your bench that can score. And you have a Sy, right? What What else What else do you need? Maybe a um a stationary spot up three-point shooter is maybe the only thing that you that you have that you need. And if you have all of these elements, all you really need is Hey, coach, what’s the word? What’s the word for the guy that makes the music for all the singers to sing on and all that stuff? Conductors. Producer, conductor. Yeah. All you need is that whatever word, whichever one, producer, conductor. All you really need is somebody to to make sure everybody’s in the right place, singing on the right note. I think that the Knicks have all the weaponry to have the most dominant offense in the NBA if they choose to use those pieces. In my opinion, we had those pieces in place to be the most dominant offense in the league and we were stressing about how they couldn’t play defense. Hell yeah. You feel me, Cash? Or or am I or am I Homer Simpson? Am I Homer Simpson right now? No, you’re good, man. It’s like it’s like this. I I I you know, you know, I always throw the the chess perspective in. You have strategy and then you have tactics. Tivido was good at strategy, but he wasn’t good at tactics. So now we’re going to see an evident demonstration of both. Like you said, we’re going to see some things that that we haven’t seen before, you know, in a in in a half course setting on offense of people, you know, doing different things or or or or pieces that are doing doing things that they’re that they’re good at. Um, you know, you broke down, you know, a certain perspective as regards to Mitch. It made me think about what Mike Brown has said in his press conference as far as, you know, Mitch uh Mitch being a vertical threat with the lob. Been doing that all along, man. He shouldn’t be out there setting screens. Mitch is no threat at 25 feet away from the basket setting the screen. No, nobody’s given heed or or or precedence to that. But if he’s running to the hoop or or if he’s in that dunker spot and that lob may might be coming, that’s where he’s a threat. And I and and and I think you’re dead on on what you mentioned of that’s what we’re going to see more of this coming season under this new regime and and these new offensive tactics that is going to be employed. Right. Yeah. Right. I would even put, and I’m gonna make y’all laugh, I would start Jaylen Brunson in the Dunker spot. Why? Because because the defense has to defend it in a different way, right? the the defense because because think about if if Jaylen Brunson is the primary focus of a of a defense, right? And you put him in a different spot offensively, what does the defense do? Do they now turn that offensive intensity and put it on Josh Hart because Jaylen Brunson is not there? Nah, they’re going to play defense different. All right. They’re going to play deep. They’re going to play deep. I would start Jaylen Brunson in any any sort of of places. Coach, remember last year when I said, man, I would start Mitchell Robinson in the corner and remember everybody laughed at me and said Mitch can’t shoot threes. Remember that? They laughed at me like just because a person is in the corner means all they do from that corner is shoot threes. Is that Cash? Is that where we are now? Like if you start in a certain spot, you have to shoot from that spot. No, that’s where movement comes in. That’s where movement comes in, bro. Yeah. Movement and setting, you know, I don’t know if um and coach, you’re probably more wellversed than I am in this. uh have seen film of Steph Curry and how hard he works to get his shot off. I mean, I I know to us it’s like it’s effortlessly and it just flow, you know, just like with es and flows, but to see him to see the work that goes into when he’s running off screens. Um, another player back in the day, you know, we we hate him as Nick fans, but again, if you if you look at the film, Reggie Miller, you know, running off those screens that was set for him, the offball, and that’s and that’s the key, the offball screens, you know, to get him open so he can get that shot off. And, you know, for either one of them, they don’t need much room or much space to get that shot off. All they need is really the snap of a finger and it’s bang. Well, you know what though about both of those teams and no knock on the Warriors because they obviously are a great team, but when it comes to the Pacers and that team, besides the year they had Durant, Clay and uh Curry were the only two really bombing away It ain’t like Draymond. Like it ain’t like they had a team full of shooters, you know? They had two guys that can shoot. The Warriors, you mean? Yeah. Yeah. All world, right? And the Pacers, all they had was Reggie and I that’s it. Jaylen Rose ain’t shooter. The Rick Smiths and all people like Haywood Workman. Here’s the difference. The Knicks don’t have to do that crap. Like those team Curry had to do all that running around and have those guys that can’t shoot set picks for him so he can get open so he can shoot. We have the luxury of putting four to five guys on the court that can shoot. So you don’t have to do all that uh running Brunson around and running your shoes all around. You just gota stand stand in a spot and good luck defending it, you know? Like to me it’s not even rocket science when you have this talent. It’s just get the damn ball at the court and get it started, you know, pass the ball around. I dare you to double team somebody. We’re going to make you pay. If you want to come out on our shooters, we’re going to dump it down to Mitch and dump. We’re going to have OG dunk. If you if you don’t come out, cover us. We’re going to shoot. So, it’s pretty simple. I like the I like the idea of now that you bring in somebody that at least respects offense that you can use your weapons. Yeah. Right. Uh um u how many times have you seen like a a basketball team, a football team have like a defensive-minded head coach and they lose games because they play the entire game too close to the vest and then they lose at the end and then you see them bring in a superstar scorer at some I don’t care what receiver, point guard, quarterback, center fielder, whatever. And then soon as that player gets there, the whole face of the everybody wants to play with that offensive player, right? All the skilled players want to play with that because his gravity helps them be the best version of themselves, right? And that’s the thing with J with Jaylen Brunson, right? The thing with Jaylen Brunson is Jaylen Brunson’s not a defender. We had a defensive-minded coach. Jaylen Brunson is not a defender. Those two things automatically put us like one foot in the grave and the other one on a roller skate. Any given time we can slip and fall. Right now that you have Mike Brown here, you have a situation where you can open up things. Mike Brown. Mike Brown is unique in that he can make adjustments to any to any style chameleon. The The one thing overall though, he’s he’s got that thing where he wants to to win. He’s a tinkerer though. He’s whereas I I’ll compare it to whereas Tibs was Alexander Graanbell, Mike Brown is Tesla. Right. Tinker so much that it just it it’ll drive you crazy. Even to the point worry so much about the greater good and tinker so much to get to a space that it’ll drive some fans crazy. I don’t and I don’t blame him. I I don’t I don’t blame him, you know. I mean, it’s one of them it’s one of them things where I feel like you’re going to see Mitchell Robinson average a double double if he starts. Not because he’s gonna take more shots or not because he’s gonna have a higher usage rate, but because little things mean a lot. Like being open off the pick and roll every play. Coach, can you imagine Can you imagine running the a screen play, right? Like running a screen where the guy that fakes the the block and goes down the field is always open and you always throw it to Jacquz Green so Jacquz Green can pick up eight yards. Meanwhile, the dude that fake faked the block and went downfield is always open 25 yards down the field and you never throw it to him. Yeah. I know one thing when I was if I was coaching I saw that I’d be telling throw the damn ball to him next time. Yeah. It’s it’s crazy. is criminal how open Mitch is just off just off that one set in your that one set in your offense. Right now, here’s the thing with offense also. Offense, you might have an offensive playbook, but you constantly cash. You add to that playbook over and over and over again that based on your personnel, right? Based on your based on your personnel, you got to keep adding stuff to your playbook. Like with me with with with me, if I have if I was the coach of the Knicks right now and I had Bridges and OG, I would be running Zoom Jet out of the corner at least twice a quarter. At least twice a quarter. And for those that don’t know what it is, it’s the play that the Boston Celtics run. Sometimes they run double zoom jet like Jaylen Brown in one corner and Jason Tatum in the other corner, right? They pin down for a guy. that guy that they pinned down for screens. They catch the ball on the move headed to the rim. And what do you what are you going to do with Jason? Are you going to are you going to trap it so that he can kick out to Porzingis for three? That would be cat in this in this analogy, right? Or are you going to blitz it with with three people and not let him get there and then let somebody work free under the rim and get dunks all night? You just can’t stop it. And you have to at least try these things. Is OG Anobi the best ball handler God ever made? Probably not. Can he operate out of Zoom jet? If he can’t do that, he shouldn’t be an NBA player. It’s like asking a running back, “Hey, you know how to carry a football? Cash, you know how to carry a football, bro?” Yeah, I was a lineman, but yeah, we did drills where, you know, Yeah, I know how to hold on to a ball. If I if I if I ever had the opp ever had the opportunity to scoop it up and score. Yeah. Yeah. After I scored, I might have need some oxygen, but you know, I know how to hold on to the ball. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Everyone’s taught that, right? Right. Like some of these things you have to some of these things, coach, there’s a difference between using what’s right in front of you and using your imagination. In my mind, you should be doing both, right? You could at least use what’s in front of you before you like use your imagination. Unless something appears that’s so dynamic, you you just have to use your imagination right away. Mhm. I mean, I think they should do a lot of stuff like Josh Hard out of the pinch post. Yeah. They should also be doing basically like the flow offense basically. It’s like a pace and space and movement, right? like they should push the ball up the floor quick, have defensive rebounds and turnovers especially, right? And actually Anobi and Bridges are both they’re actually both pretty good out passers. They can both run the floor. So this gets them the rest of the team into a rhythm before a defense can even set up. Like me, they we’re athletic enough for that. Like just an OG can run the floor. Yeah, they can run the floor. They’re athletes. Like Josh Deuce. Yeah, coach. I I think you you you hit something there that the it was one of the problems with the Tibs offense allowing the other team’s defense to get their defense set. And what happens when every time we get the ball, they know they’re going to give it to J to to to Jason uh Jaylen Brunson. So that enables the defense to get set. But like you guys were advocating, if you get the ball up the court fast, then the other team is not able to set the defense and then you could do all sorts of the actions that you made reference to. You know what? Matter of fact, whichever way you want to go, pinch, spread, what you you have, in other words, you have options. Yeah. But the key is but the whole key is what you said coach is not allowing the defense to get set because once the defense is set then you got problems because cuz Josh male and OG they’re not half court players offensively they’re not half court players yeah offensively they’re not half court players now Brunson and Cat obvious they’re whatever offense you want to run players don’t matter but They’re they’re definitely more attuned to the half. And even Mitch Mitch can actually get up and down the floor when he ain’t tired or limping, you know. Yeah. You know, another thing we should be doing is uh split cuts. Yeah. like you run out of a post up or at the top of the key, you know, and then you have two players, not just one, you have two players cut to the rim on either side of the ball handler. It’s it’s not it’s so easy to do. And no, and Anobi and Bridges both cut and finish at the rim. Okay. on those scenarios. You get someone like Cat or Brunson get the ball at the top of the key or the high post and you have both of them cut. I mean, I don’t know, man. There’s a lot of stuff you can do, coach. I like that idea. I mean, there’s also like old school like classic like another thing called like hammer action. I don’t know if you know what hammer is, like hammer screen. It’s like when a player drives the baseline, um a player in the corner sets a screen for the other player on the wing and this allows the wing to flare out for a three-point shot. Okay. You know, there’s like I don’t know. You can like you so you can like run like hammer action with Brunson driving, you know, driving into the lane and then like Ananobi and Bridges or the corners like they normally are both ready to be the beneficiary of a screen from another player or like even towns. You talking about screen to screener? Yeah. And then you have two threats making this set. Um, and it’s like it’s incredibly difficult to defend to guard. Yeah. Yeah. And I just don’t think we’ve science that. Oh, it’s hard to guard. Why? Because of because of of science or Yeah. Well, the first of all, we you got to have the threats to be able to run it. Okay. But cuz if you tried to do that with Josh out there in the corner, people aren’t going to respect him out there. So, can’t run it that with him. But with them two in the corners, they’re the top two corn three-point makers the last three years in the NBA. Yeah. I mean, that’s the thing that we How do you have the best three-point shooting big man in history, Brunson, who can get on fire and the two best corner three shooters in the league and shoot less threes? And shoot less threes. Yeah. What in the hell are we doing? Hey, that’s the reason why we change code. That’s the reason why Mike Brown is Come on, man. And I don’t want to be Boston’s chucking asses. You know what I’m saying? I don’t want to be like that. But man, there’s some games we should be jacking them, bro. Yeah. Pause. I mean, we got the talent to do. Yeah. I’m tired of having teams that can’t shoot. We We’ve had We’ve tried that experience for a long time. Yeah. Yeah. One nothing. I want to be the team that makes a bunch of them things. Wouldn’t that be awesome? Hell yeah. But yeah, hopefully this higher is part of that change. M I know all some of y’all out there defense. There you go. There you go. There’s only some so many defenders out in the league, bro. Yeah. What’s good, fellas? Salute, Dre. Salute, man. I think I think defense uh we can we we can we’ll we’ll be okay. I think we’ll be fine with with with defense. We’re I mean, we’re not we’re not gonna have our locked down, you know, New York New York defense that we’re accustomed to, but I think our defense when the last time the New York defense won the championship. Yep. Yeah. Exactly. You want to know why? You want to know why we needed lock down defense? Cuz Patrick Yung is the only one that can make a damn shot. That’s why. Yeah. Yeah, because you was too busy scoring 87 points a game. Exactly. Yeah. Last time the Knicks won a championship, they they won it with ball movement and elite offense. Just just for the record. Yep. And a Hall of Fame point guard. Yeah. Yep. Yep. And they got rid of a defensive guy and brought in Earl Pearl. He ain’t been known for his defense. That Hall of Fame point guard or Hall of Fame center. Yeah. I’m sorry, Willis Reed. I love him to death, but he ain’t known for defense. So, he wasn’t he was no shot blocker. I think I think we’ll be in a position to get enough stops. And to be absolutely honest, I think we’re going to have a top 10 defense. It won’t we don’t I don’t think we’re we need to necessarily have a top three defense. It’s with this this type of firepower. I don’t think it’s necessary. Yeah. Every time I see my fellow Nick fans complain about Cat on defense, I throw up in my mouth. Make you want to just every time like I don’t care. He’s the best. He’s the best offensive center in the league. Fight me on it. I give Joic can’t I say Joic is one, but Pat is two. Jokic is he’s the best offensive talent like weaponwise as far as like facilitator, but he ain’t a better shooter than Cat. No, he ain’t a better shooter than Cat. Now, now but but here’s the thing. Does he create better shots for himself and others than Cat? Yeah. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. He’s a he’s like a offensive force whereas Cat is like a scorer. Like he any kind of way you Cat can score for you. It it’s it’s the difference. But y’all remember um anybody in here um remember the the um um the Larry Bird versus Dominique Wilkins scoring comps all the time? Remember that? Like who’s the better player, Larry Bird or Yeah. Yeah. It’s Larry Bird because Dominique Wilkins could score but did Wilkins impact winning? Yeah, Dominique Wilkins could score but could he pass and not turn the ball over a lot? Right. Yeah. No. And that’s another part of Cat’s game that I look forward to hopefully Mike Brown and Jen t into. He’s actually a good passer. Yeah. Yep. I think I think um I I I think they’re going to use Cat like he used Sabonis in Sacramento in in a lot of the sets that he ran. I I mean I don’t know if anybody’s seen any film. I’ve seen just a couple of things, but I think he’s going to use Cat in that way. And what’s going to make Cat better than Sabonis? Uh, you know, cuz they positioned Sabonis like around the foul line. You can you can you can still run that those sets with Cat, let’s say, at the three-point line. And he’s a threat because he’s what? The best shooting big man in the league. So, you got to respect that. And at the same time, to dovetail on what you said, coach, he’s an he he’s he’s a willing passer. So, if somebody’s cutting to the basket, and we’ve seen it last season, he’s going to make he’s going to get him the ball. So, again, like we were saying, you know, how how are teams are going to stop that? That’s their problem, not ours. Yeah. I think everyone’s going to be surprised when they see how well the offense looks when Yabaselli’s in the game with Cro, but do you see things that happen? telling me. Yeah. Yelli is playing hungry, man. I I I like how he’s playing, man. He He’s playing He’s He’s playing He’s playing like He like He’s playing for not only just money for like somebody stole his his steak or something or his pork his pork chops and mashed potatoes and green beans or something, man. Speaking of that country, you see old Frankie boy got cut from team France from his country. He got what? What happened? He got cut. He got cut from he got cut from team, bro. He can’t even make team France. Frank. Hey, France has got a lot of great players now. Yeah, they do. I mean, if they’re bringing in a lot of them young ones probably, bro. They got Bro, they got they got some dudes that aren’t in the league on that roster still. So even over him even for that remember that play TLC uh Freezy Du Cabaro. Yeah that’s not um he’s on France but he’s not in the league. Yeah you talking about TLC? Yeah TLC. Yeah they spot to Frank. I mean they took Frank’s spot and gave it to him. Oh wow. Yeah, he’s actually playing. Hey, sh. Hey, man. Shout out to um to TLC. I thought he was gonna be something, bro. I thought he was gonna be a nice little role player. I thought he was gonna be Josh Hart, bro. I ain’t gonna front. Well, well, if he if he had a best friend that was also a star point guard, then he might have had a chance. He might have had a chance. Yeah. If he All he had to do was just get get a edge up, bro. You can’t be an NBA player and getting W edge up, bro. How you playing in Philly? How you going playing in Philly and your edge up like this, bro? That’s how you That’s how you can tell they from France. Like if they had the edge up. Okay. Yeah, he’s a brother. Yeah, he he a brother, but he ain’t from here. That man, can you imagine playing with TLC on on 2K and my man Edge Up is like man, put that hair on right, bro. And then I thought And then I thought 2K was doing him dirty and then I saw him in the game and I was like, “No, they got Even Diabate got cut.” Oh, wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah. Is it Dior still on the team, right? Let me check. On team France. No, I don’t think he’s playing. He’s not playing for team France now. Oh, they got that they got that feel Maladon. Oh, Teo Maladon. I like him. Guard, bro. I like him. Which I don’t know why he in the league. He He decided to go to Real Madrid, I think, or something. And I know that they’re they’re going young, you know, with Alex Sard and Reach and Wimi and Yeah, obviously Wimby. Yeah. But yeah, Maladon might have went to Madrid for it because they get a back and Hula Bali too, I think. Oh, that’s my bro. Hey, bro. Every time I hear that man name, I’m like, if Leon Rose pull that off, bro, I’m like, hey, man, he the goat. You know, I think, yo, I I ain’t gonna front. I said about three years ago that I think Balo Koulabali is gonna be the next Giannis. And I know y’all I know people laugh, but it’s the same thing with Giannis. If if somebody told you that that Giannis was going to be a bigger version of LeBron kind of people, Nah, they don’t make dudes like that every generation. But And then then you see him and then you see him. Yeah. Like I after he jumped over Tim Hardaway, I was terrified of that man. He jumped clean over Tim Hardway. He teabagged Tim. That’s the same game was to his ACL. I mean the knee ligament, right? It was his ACL, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. That was a deflating game. My lord. Yeah, that was Yeah, that that game he was going off and then boom. And and you’re if I don’t know if y’all remember this or not and the last play of the game um Chris Middleton hit a layup at the buzzer because he spinned off Tim Hardaway Jr. went baseline and laid it up at the rim as time went off and Tim Hardaway Jr. um spin around and start yelling at Eden Caner. This team’s a disaster. Oh my. And neither and neither one of them can play defense, right? How you gonna let a man go How you gonna let a dude bigger than you go baseline and dunk it? Oh. Oh my god, bro. Steve Mills Steve Mills will pay for his crimes for what he did to my organization. You see that kid Mohamad Deon love? Now who’s that, bro? This kid, he’s like if Giannis and LeBron had a love child. Muhammad, you who you talking about over Shamshi? N Mohamad Deon Deon. He’s a 69 12y old 13y old. He’s like 12 13 years old. He’s in FC Barcelona. Oh wow. He was the MVP of the U15 Euro thing at 12. Yeah. anymore. Super fluid for some because usually when kids are that tall at those those ages, they move real stiff. But this dude and he fluid like Yeah, I’ve seen I’ve seen him before. I just forgot his name. You You got it right. Yeah. Mohamad Deong. D A B O N E. Usually, bro, when you’re like 610, they put you at center because you can’t really move around that well and you just look clunky and awkward. He looks super fluid for a 6, 10, 13 year old. Like I Yeah, it doesn’t make sense. If you see, you’re like, “Who is this?” You should like his head’s above the rim every time he dunks, bro. Wow. Even just like a I mean, he’s blocking shot. I mean, he he’s he can shoot from three already. It’s crazy. He look like he’s made a laugh. Maybe he was. Maybe. Maybe he was, bro. Yo, I do we have the who’s got the 2030 sweep stakes right now? So, I think he comes out in 2030. Wow. Wow. That’s who That’s who Danny Ang is waiting for. That’s who Danny A is waiting for right there. He’s in a tank till 2030. Probably. Oh my. What a joke, man. Yo, so so what do you think about Chris Jent, bro? Be honest. I genuinely don’t have too many thoughts. He’s been an NBA lifer. He’s seen a lot and been around a lot of good coaches. And it’s probably something that Mike Brown sees in him to bring him up on the staff. One thing I will say, um, Mike Brown, I saw an interview with like a beatw writer for the Kings and he basically said like Mike Brown implemented an offense and then he just gave the designation to like an assistant to run it how he sees fit. It is Mike Brown’s offense to a te what he values and what he wants to see on a day-to-day basis. He just asks an assistant to run what he asks of him throughout the course of the year. So, I think they’re going to use him as an offensive assistant even though he’s been a defensive guy in the past and he believes he can run the principles and things that Mike Brown values on a night in or night out. So, like that I think to be absolutely honest that the training camp is the most important part of the season for us. So, we like have a crash course of what Mike Brown likes and then we build from there and add more and more structure and layers over the course of the season. Hey, did you see the Mike Brown video of Mike Brown teaching offense? Um, so there’s there’s a um a video is it copyright or can you play it on here? Is that the one he was he was doing a lot of cussing on? No. No. This this is the one. No, this is the one. He’s at a kids camp, a high school kids camp, and and he’s teaching them how to run and and get open offensively. He’s basically teaching kids how to score without having handles, passing, and athleticism, right? It’s it’s all about like he’s telling these kids, it’s all about positioning. Like he’s saying stuff like when you’re at when you’re level with the ball handler, get wide. like little stuff. You’re like, “My coach told me that in 1977.” And while listen, and while that makes like people are saying, “Well, it must be old school.” Nah, it’s like the little things the little things matter. Like the the the small the milliseconds you get to get your shot off matter. Like how guys that are not super athletic wind up being cash. You remember how Larry Bird used to score and you and we was like, “How is this dude always open?” And Larry Bird and and me and you felt like we can outrun Larry Bird, but he was always open. Little things like positioning your body. Like Mike Brown was telling telling the kids like, “Listen, if you’re gonna cut, like if you’re like when a guy rubs his guy off the screen, right, you should already be diving at the rim because basically you want to form a point at the rim, like two things of attack, so that one defender is in jeopardy from two different people. So if he commits to one, the other’s going to score. If he commits to none, the other’s gonna score. If he commits to the ball, right, he’s going to kick it and the other. So, you create like these situations where you’re always jeopardizing the defense and putting him in those situations where they have to make split-second decisions. And then if you’re in an undisiplined defense, right, you know, you have a man and you see your teammate get beat a couple times and you sag off and then you kick out to the man that was undisiplined. Now you get these open threes and now it’s like this whole snowball effect. Now they call in timeout arguing with each other in the huddle about who’s supposed to do what and and say words like communication and discipline and all that stuff. And it all comes from positioning your body. Uh we have a player who’s damn damn near an expert at that right now. His name is Jaylen Brunson that you just described to a te and the NBA is amazed on how is it this guy is taking everybody to school and that and those are the very things man. Those are the very things and those are those that that that comes from you know doing fundamentals well um developing an IQ because an IQ a high IQ is something that’s developed it’s not just given you know those that are so man they it comes through teaching and repetition man I mean Kobe became Kobe because of his work ethic I mean those are the things that you know that has to start early on. And Jaylen Brunson, man, those things is just they on fire right now with him, you know. Same thing with with, you know, with Steph Curry. I mean, there’s uh you mentioned Larry Bird. Same thing, man. I mean, we know Lobby Bird, he wasn’t the most athletic, but his shot, you know, all the all the intangibles that he bring that he brought to the table, it’s it’s just it’s just good, smart, fundamental basketball, man. Dre, if I can find that video, I I’ll try to remember to send it to you. Right. But yeah, I’m But it’s it’s basic and it’s basically shot it’s basically shot from the 2K angle. You know how y’all play 2K or whatever? It’s shot from the the high camera 2K angle pointing down or whatever and you can see the other side of the floor and the the um the low side of the floor and all these things. And Mike Brown is telling them like with stuff like little things like when you get the rebound, push it up the side of the floor, right? When it’s ready to time they’re ready to attack the rim, attack the rim from the middle of the floor straight down the crease, right? these these little these little things, man, that you um but to the thing to Cash Cash to your point though where Jaylen Brunson is good at that, we have guys that are not that are the opposite. Josh Hart is the opposite of that, right? Josh Josh Hart is not the like like for instance, how many times have you seen Josh Hart on on a fast break not sprint out and get wide if he’s at the level of the basketball because of his fear of shooting three-pointers. Yeah, true. That’s true. Could be a lack of confidence, whatever. But um for for that very thing that we ping Josh Hart with but the instincts that when it comes to rebounding which rebounding is not about having uh you know superior height or whatever it’s about desire and and and and effort you know he he’s he’s unquestioned man he he’s uh he’s up there man somehow even at his height and with his brain, he somehow gets to that ball. So, you know, I I guess uh you know, there’s give and takes with different players. I mean, that’s why we that’s why I I guess for the team that we have currently constructed that we have to accentuate or or or p well I should um what’s the word am I looking for? um highlight those um those qualities that th those players do well. Whereas Josh Hart is good like you said in pushing the ball and maybe passing it to somebody, but when it comes for him being the main guy on the break, no. But but but using using this the skill sets that um the different players have and and using them well for the benefit of the team. Yeah. I think Josh Hart is Jason Whitten. You remember the Cowboys tight end Jason Whitten? Yeah. Yeah. You remember how how he formed a relationship with Tony Romo? Like his security blanket and like when you watch Jason Whit, you like this dude don’t get open, bro. He just Tony Romo just throw him the ball 14 times a game. And and and that’s what I think about Josh Hart because in Tib’s defense where where he got boxed low on defense, you know what I’m saying? He basically eight feet away from the rim on every shot. You know what I’m saying? The bigs are going to box each other out and then Josh Hart being eight, nine feet away from the rim is going to stick his nose in there all game and and grab you a bunch of rebounds because he box low. Jaylen Brunson is box low on the other side. It’s the reason why Jaylen Brunson um got a lot of charges on defense. It’s not because Jaylen Brunson was the quickest dude in the world and got his feet set. He did John Jaylen Brunson so fast he can draw charges on John Mor. Nah, he playing box low. He see the ball. He look in the corner and he he look in the corner and see a non three-point shooting. Let’s say the Kimbe Matumbo in the corner for three. He like he ain’t the player ain’t kicking it out. I’m just slide over here and draw this charge. He stole two rebounds from Cat every game. Hey man, people at Randle for doing that. They was like, Rand rebound. I watched every trip up and down the court almost for all 82 games last year. And this is no exaggeration. Josh Hart literally steals two rebounds a game. Right. And I’m not knocking him. I mean, it’s a great ability, you know, he rebounds. Yeah. But if he’s doing other things his position supposed to be doing, he ain’t supposed to be in them positions to rebound. You mean like shooting like shooting threes? Exactly. Dribble penetrating. Yeah. Score at the rim. shooting an eight foot floater when you’re in the paint instead of turning your back to the basket, throwing it back out instead of instead of throw jumping in the air and then making a decision when you in the air. Yeah, I know Dre loved that though. He love to see Josh Hart playing point guard. sprint up the court, take two dribbles past half court, pick up your dribble for no reason, and then turn around and look for someone to pass to. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody. And I mean anybody. I seen him give it to Mitch one time, bro. Like, come on, man. And Cash, I’m sorry, man. I’m not bashing your player, bro. You know, I like Josh Hart, too. But no, like he could be better utilized just like everyone else on our team. Yeah. Yeah. We’re going to need rebounding off the bench. Um, what do y’all think Josh Hart’s going to look like in Mike with Mike Brown? He look nice on the bench. just to show you Lakers Josh Hart. That’s I don’t know. Is that a good thing? No. The best version of him was was here, I guess. But like he’s the kind of guy that you need to maximize his volume in terms of minutes to get any value out of him because if you cut him down to 27 28 minutes, he’s going to give you six points and seven rebounds. And how valuable is that at $20 million? Oh, the $20 million part came the $20 million question. Oh god. He’s He’s the reason we might not be able to bring Mitch back. Just just just let y’all know. Mitch is coming back, bro. They giving Mitch the bag, bro. That’s the question for these Knicks fans. I’m sorry. say it’s it’s Josh or Mitch. Can’t have both. Do it. Yeah, I think we going to have both wrong. Oh, we ain’t getting nobody else there. I know. I know. That’s the Not that we need like someone huge else, but Is Josh the reason why we’re not going to get Giannis? He can get two solid young players for $20 million. Yep. I would love to get Henderson, bro. I I think he got a mentor. Dame coming back. Gonna be that boy mentor. Andrew and Yeah. Drew. Yeah. I would love to see man how do we how do we how do we fix our our our playoff shortcomings? I think that’s probably the million-dollar question. Don’t start the playoffs game 20. Um, you use your best lineups instead of your worst lineups instead of using your worst lineup for seven straight months with no deviation. That might help. Getting out to good starts in games with with positive lineups. That might help. And and best believe Mike Brown is gonna empty the tank in terms of figuring out what are his positive lineups, right? Within the first two months of the season, he’s going to have a good idea of what will work and what doesn’t work and what he’ll lean on. It won’t be it won’t take you how many games into the playoffs went six. We went six. It won’t take you 14 games to figure out, hey, this starting lineup is not working. and it hasn’t worked since January. Don’t be surprised to see Yaboselli starting. I wouldn’t shock me either. My My answer to your question is employ tactics instead of strategy. And if you think it’s a good move, look for a better move. Okay? I mean, one step further and easier. If it’s working, keep doing it. If it ain’t working, stop doing it. I mean, I feel you. If you go three trips down the court and you can’t get a shot off, it’s probably got to change something. Coach, as soon, bro, as soon as Mike Brown sees us go into a possession where the ball move ball didn’t move and it turns out and it ends up into a Josh Hart off the dribble three, he is going to blow a gasket. Yep. Meanwhile, Tibs is perfectly comfortable with that happening three times in a row in a in a winner go home playoff scenario. I saw a team who has Cat OG and Male Bridges in Brunson and in end of the quarter and late game scenarios off an inbound off an inbounds play. Josh Hart ends up with the ball for the shot. Yeah. When we need a three-point shot, Josh Hart is on the court. Just that by itself make my tongue tell me just a and I appreciate I appreciate y’all appeasing me with the vent session, man. I appreciate that cuz Chad, this is a vent session for me. It’s not I’m not I’m not mad at the world, right? I’m not Trey from Boys in the Hood fighting the air. I’m just like to I’m just releasing some some tension with this. So yeah, man. That is actually insane. Freezy. We we go in the scenarios where we know we need a three-point shot and Tib’s got Josh Hart on the instead of deuce, right? Because in Tib’s mind, it’s like what if we missed the shot? In Tim’s mind, he’s thinking, “What if what if we generate the best shot possible?” In Tim’s mind, he’s like, “We might need an offensive rebound.” Tim off of a contingency instead of the first plan working and and and so the thing that made me even more So, coach, I don’t know if I told you this or not, I believe the Knicks right now today should be threetime defending NBA champs. That’s my belief. Now, I know everyone has their own belief. Whatever your belief is, believe in it, man. I don’t care. You know, I’ll support you, right? But in that scenario that that Dre just mentioned that when you need a three-point shot, you have Josh Hart on the floor. I’m here to tell you what if in round two against Miami two years ago, or is it three years ago? Three seasons ago. Two. Well, the year before last last the year we lost to Miami. It’s three seasons ago. Yeah. Jaylen Brunson gets trapped. He looks at Josh Hart at the three-point line and forces the ball to Julius Randle. What if in that scenario where you need a three-point shot, you sub out just for that moment, you sub out Josh Hart and Evan Forier? Coach, is Evan Forier a decent three-point shooter? Hell yeah. Especially that year. that. Yeah, he said he’s a threat. He’s a threat. He’s definitely a threat. You You feel me? Like Like every time we talk Tibs, bro, I’m like, “Nah.” Every time Every time people like like legit quibble, squabble about the Knicks firing Tibs. No, I don’t I don’t want to hear it. I don’t I don’t That’s why when I see the kind, I like, “Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.” Look for and and co here’s the here’s the bigger one to me, right? You up two games to none on Indiana, right? You up big in game three. Hallebertton is hurt, right? In a moment when they’re trying to go on their last run before they wave the white flag, Tom Tibido with a lead puts a offensive unit on the floor that struggles with Indiana instead of putting defenders on the floor and the guy Andrew Nmer winds up hitting a three over Jaylen Brunson. Oh, that is true. And if that if they miss that shot, we go up three games to none against Indiana with Hallebertton hurt, right? And we won’t be talking about how Hartinstein left. We won’t be talking about all these things that happened because we would have played Boston in the Eastern Conference Finals, right? We we played Boston in the East. They was waiting on us, right? They we were up two games to none. Up game up big in game three. It’s the It’s the game remember after game two when Rick Carlau complained about Jaylen Brunson fouling Hallebertton. Remember that? And and you could out of a start. You would expect Jaylen Brunson to be a better person than that. He knows Hallebertton’s back is hurt and he pushed Hallebertton in the back. Y’all remember that the press conference? I remember that. Well, he called Jaylen Brunson a bad person because he pushed because he pushed Jaylen they have a a thing with Jaylen Brunson ex have his a screenshot of Jaylen Brunson’s hands extended in Hallebertton’s back. Right. And then and then they get slammed they get slammed by screenshots of Hallebertton on on the on the same or on a different play in game three where they were they grabbed Jaylen Brunson’s jersey. Anybody remember the Jaylen Brunson jersey crab? Maybe I remember too much. Maybe maybe I’m a punishment. I remember. Right. And all Tims had to do was play deuce. You could have kept Alec Burks in the game. Any anybody remember Jane when when um against Indiana um Alec Burke every time Alec Burke stepped on the floor he bought the Knicks all the way back him and Dante and then instead of riding a hot hand like now I got to get JB back out there. I love Jaylen bro. You know what Tib’s coaches on Tib’s coaches with automatic substitutions like it’s 2K. Yeah. That’s the difference, man, between strategy and tactics because he looks he looks on his script and it’s like, “Okay, we have to do this now.” Might not be the right thing to do, man. Needs to take he he’s going to be taking Tom Tibido to the civic court. What happened? What happened? You know who Hey, you know what? Because Tom Tibido ruined that poor man’s career, bro. Yeah. Hey, Py, you know what? You just your your little dialogue there. If you really think about it, you you know what got got Tom Tibido fired? The Indiana Pacers. Yeah. Yeah. The Indiana Pacers basically got Tom Tibido fired because for some reason he coached Well, he didn’t coach against them. He He I don’t I don’t know what he was thinking that that’s the real reason why he got fired. I mean, BA, we beat Boston. Yeah. So what? What has it gotten us? Nothing. Because we can’t beat Indiana. Yeah. Means nothing, bro. Not Not even this year. It goes back to, you know, the year you just made reference to. I I I say that’s huge, man. That’s huge. Two shots changed the whole complexity. The Nimhard shot you just mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. And Hallebertton shot this year changed everything. Our last three playoff runs, if you would have swapped the head coaches, would the would the end result be the same? That’s that’s how I view it. Of course. There you go. Yeah, that that that that’s the that’s the answer. Ding. You you nailed it, Dre. If you swap head coaches, we would have walked the floor with Miami. If you saw head coaches, we would have walked the floor with the Pacers roster. Not not because RL is this amazing guy. It’s just like the the opposite team would be least poorly optimized as possible. Be rolling the ball out there, just play basketball, right? In comparison, bro. All these scenarios, Dre, we we’ve been seeing these scenarios all year, right? Like if one thing goes differently than what we anticipated, then we are holding the trophy and another team is not. Yeah. Right. It I mean it sounds basic in in a sense, but man, I mean, come on, man. T this is supposed to be your forte. We, if you think about it, this roster, even the last two rosters, this Knicks team, we should have been in the f we could have easily been in the finals the last three years. We should have been like I I don’t know if we would have made it by the Celtics last year as injured as we were. Well, I mean, at least the Eastern Conference Files. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. But the year Miami beat them, we could have beat them that year. Yeah. With that team. Yeah. The way things were going, they just they just went overkill the following year in terms of acquisitions. Coach, I was arguing with a dude named Adam on the Knicks at night podcast then. Adam, wherever Adam’s at. Wherever Wherever Adam’s at. I’m like, bro, I’m not scared. Dre, do you remember me saying I’m not scared in Milwaukee? Remember that? when everybody was like, “Oh my god, Uncle Freezy, you got to be petrified of Milwaukee.” I wasn’t scared of Milwaukee or Boston. I was like, “Bring them on.” I felt like we were ready, right? I felt like we were ready. Now, whether we were ready or not or whatever, however, I didn’t necessarily feel them like that. I felt like franchise was ready for prime time years ago. Excuse me. I’m going on record and I’m saying it again on this telecast. We are winning the chip. This is it. This is the year. This is our year, man. That’s it. It’s going to happen. And if it does, I’ll meet I’ll meet you guys on Broadway or wherever they having a parade at cuz I ain’t far from there. And I will be there. Ben. Yep. Bam. Bam. Exactly. I’m with you. Yep. We We are winning the title. We are winning the title. My My only my only thing is is I I know um at this point in the year, Knicks fans need to know how we’re going to win the chip, right? They’re like, “How, Cash? How we gonna win the chip, man?” I’m I think we’re going to win the chip because we legit are gonna use all of our offensive weapons and things of that sort and it’s going to it’s going to make teams tap out, right? Teams are legit going to start tapping out with the with the weaponry. I think the weaponry has been misused in such a way that we don’t even know we have weaponry. Go ahead, bro. It sounded like Harlem Nights when when you telling them to stop shooting that little Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or Lil Kim, whichever version of that that Stop. Yeah. Stop it. Stop. I’m get you quick. I’m Yeah. Yeah. The only the only thing that that may stop us is injury. Outside outside of that, if we’re full strength, I I don’t see it. That’s that’s what you manage for because I know the odds makers are talking about Cleveland. We’ve beaten Cleveland. So, I’m you know, I’m not sweating Cleveland. The only challenge I see is whoever is going to be coming from the Western Conference. That’s it in the finals. And we’ll deal with that. Um, so I want to go on on uh get on paper early and say I think it’s going to be the Knicks and Rockets, but it’s it’s very very the Knicks and Rockets as my pick to be the finals. I think that’s my early choice right now. I don’t think KD is going to do it for him, bro. The irony there is I forgot that he played for the Rockets. I just think anyway I don’t think their guard play is good enough, bro. I tell you a team I tell you a team who might be there from the Western Conference and who got some good nice acquisitions. The Denver Nuggets. That’s who I think’s going to go. Yeah, because don’t forget they took OKC to seven games. Yeah, OKC beat him, but they struggled. They struggled to beat him. Minnesota looks good, too. Minnesota Yeah, Minnesota’s there, too. Yes, you’re right. They’re I think people are sleeping on Jonas Valunis going there and Cam Johnson and Bruce Brown going back there as pretty big. And Christian Brown, Braun, that dude, he’s gonna be a year better. He’s a player, bro. Yeah. So, I don’t know, man. I think set up already. What’s that? They have their starting five already set up. Yeah. guys that are already knowing to be role players off the bench. And depth, yeah, depth is I think I sent I sent Freezy a video of um Rick Carile basically talking basketball. Yeah. And he was basically saying depth is the most almost the most important thing right now. It’s not about having two you well having elite players is important but you need to surround them with with quality depth and it’s about having a good nine to 10 guys that you could trot out there in different combinations throughout the season and the playoffs. I think that Puerto Rican kid they got to be better this year too. Is he Puerto Rican? A strawer. Mhm. He’s not Puerto Rican. Yeah, he is. He is. Yeah. Julian Strawther. I didn’t know that. Strawther. His real name is Strawther Cardiero. Oh, I didn’t know. He doesn’t have the hyphen. Oh, yeah. That’s Well, it would be hard to fit all of that on a jersey to be absolutely Yeah, he uh I think he was on team Puerto Rico, the under whatever age team. Yeah. No, to me I think that team is I mean when you got Yeah. when when they when they when they traded when they traded Porter Jr. that was very very shrewd by the GM because they were able to get Cam Johnson, Tim Hardway Jr. and Bruce Brown moneywise. They got three players by moving one guy. They were able to get three players. Oh, and and another sneaky guy they got, I forgot to mention this, they got Tim Hardaway Jr., too. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. For shooting. He ain’t going he ain’t going to help him out on defense that much, but he’ll put he’ll put the ball in the basket for him. They’re B. Boy, that team is good, bro. That’s a good vet team. Yeah. But I’m taking I’m taking a Knicks versus the Field. And and the thing is, and I’m gonna say this to um to Dre. Hey Ron, what’s good, bro? Sharon, what’s good, man? I’m gonna take the Knicks versus the Field. And I think I can take the Knicks versus the field because I feel like the Knicks have all the championship pieces in place, but at the trade deadline or somewhere around the end of December, I think they’re going to acquire their finishing piece. I feel like they’re going to take the NBA and throw the NBA against the far rope and get ready to do their finisher on the NBA at in late December. And I think it’ll be a coronation through the end of June. I think from your lips to God’s ears. I’m sorry. Go ahead, bro. I said from your lips to God’s ears. Uh because the thing is the thing is is I don’t know if the Knicks are missing a $30 million talent player on the roster. I don’t think that’s the player that that they’re missing. I don’t think the Knicks are a $20 million player away from a championship. I think that the Knicks are say I’m a pair of Levis’s jeans away from making your outfit fire if that makes sense. Outfit fire. I mean, and I know that Hey, coach, do people wear Levis’s anymore? Yeah. A lot of people do or or I think I think I think I might be like the oldest I think that might be the oldest person on the panel. But yo, Cash, you remember um um Sergio Valente Jeans? Yeah, man. And why why you come to me, man? Cuz you trying to make me the oldest man on the Then again, I could be. I don’t know. I don’t know how old Coach is, man. I’m desperate, bro. I was reaching. I’m desperate. I’m fitty. Oh, you fitty? Oh, okay. I’m not going to say nothing then. I’m I’m going I’m getting very quiet. Yeah, got me. Yeah, I’mma chill, bro. I’m I think I’m number three right now on this band. Oh, man. I’m getting real quiet right now. Oh my goodness. Yeah, I’mma chill, bro. Okay. All right. I’mma throw one out for you. You remember Swedish Nits? Yeah, I remember Swedish Fish. I was trying to get something. No, Swedish Nits. No, Swedish Nits. The pad. The pants with with the two No, with the two stitches going down. Yeah. Yeah. Uhhuh. Yeah. Prod. I remember Pro Cats, bro. Yeah. That was the first sneakers I ever liked, bro. Prod cuz it had the the blue and thing, the blue thing on the soul. I like Yo, bro. Them the first I ever liked. That’s it. Yeah, man. So, yes. All right. What about What about Chico Sticks, man? Come on, man. Come on. I had them. I had them free buys, you know. Fake free. Yeah. Oh, man. Some cho sticks with with penny candy was really lee jeans. Yeah, I remember Le bro. Yeah, Le. Yeah, that that’s I used to wear pinstripe Lees, bro. Yeah, when we went to high school. Well, we Well, when I went to high school anyway, man. Lee was it, man. Yeah, it was everything, bro. built uh the the belt bill uh big belt buckles sheep dogs went to parties they never take never took their sheep dog off man danced the whole on the floor the whole night with the sheep dog on cuz you know what happened if you lay your sheep dog down yeah gone gone bro remember that they had a Jord dash jeans too yeah Jord dash yeah but Carl Carl canai They used to have Carl Cany jeans. I remember Yeah. from the streets, bro. Yeah. I mentioned Jab. Yeah. I remember a Jamaican girl called him Jaboad. I was like Jabot. And it was another I’m dating myself now. Sassoon. They had Sassoon. Yeah. The reason why I remember these I remember looking at girls butts and jeans. That’s why I know all the jeans. Yeah. Yeah. What about what about Iceberg? Yeah, I remember Iceberg. Iceberg. You notice I didn’t say none of them expensive ones like Gucci or DKNY or guest like guest. You didn’t have them in your teen years, man. And I remember Iceberg because I remember I got my lower fronts from the pawn shop. Yeah. Yo, anybody remember when freezy had fronts? Freezy had go. Yes. lower for you get them from the pawn shop, bro. You get get the mole put in and like two weeks later, man, you come back, my man. Yeah. Got him from the pawn shop, bro. Yeah. But but to the to the point I’m making is is I think all the I think all the weaponry is available for us to be that to be them or him, right? I think we have all the the the the weaponry to be him and not just the players on the court, but the smart front office and the assets that we feel like are untouchable. Those assets are touchable. Like if you tell Leon Rose that you are a Pacam dier hooky trade away from being the champs, we’ll just see them in the layup line. In my mind, in my mind, if you tell Leon Rose we are that close, I think there is no doubt there there’s no doubt in my mind. Like for instance, if we are a Deuce McBride trade away from being the NBA champs, there’s no doubt in my mind Leon Rose will pull the trigger. Yeah, I know. Because he traded Dante. He broke up the Nova boys. Yeah. Remember Everything he’s done is tried to put push the team closer to winning the championship. I’m I’m I’m telling you, bro. Like Like legit, if he didn’t care about that, he wouldn’t have fired Tips. Right. Right. Like the the thing is is so I have I have instincts on one move they made and I have first a firsthand account of something that happened from something somebody that was very close to the thing. I think I may have told a few of y’all behind the scenes, but I know for a fact that they wanted to keep Randall and Dante, but they also wanted Cat. But the only way to get Cat is you got somebody’s got to go. And these dudes labored over and labored over and labored over it, right? I knew for a fact that somebody that I chat somebody that that I talked with about once a week that’s close to everybody involved in that was like it’s it’s is it’s there’s no way you can do it without you know people having to move their families and stuff and I’m like I don’t like that but it but it comes down to do you want the franchise to win a do you want the franchise to win a championship? Yes. So you moved So you made the move this past summer to move families of the organ the people you loved moved their families away and the coach didn’t use the coach allowed you to make the move and then got here and didn’t support the guy you traded for. That’s why he gone. Yeah, that’s one I think that’s just one of the I mean you’re you’re right from obviously your source. I I don’t know if that was the key, but there’s a whole there’s a whole lot of other things that we can point to that led, you know, that led to him going Yeah. But when we started the season three years ago, did we know we were getting Josh Hart at the trade deadline? Nope. Hell no. When we started last season, a year before last, did we know we were getting OG and an Obi at the trade deadline? No point. Hell no. We We had no idea we were doing that. Yeah. Well, don’t be surprised. You never know. Yeah. And so far, this front office is cooking. I’m standing by. I can’t. They cooking, bro. Yeah, man. You just made me think of one wild scenario. You had to put a couple of players together, though. would we trade in order to get let’s just say we had an opportunity to get because last year we couldn’t get Dven Chenzo back. No, because of um you know the guidelines of the business side. Yeah. This year we can if you put together the right package. Is he is he did he get traded or is he still in Minnesota? He’s still in Minnesota. Okay. I mean, you never, like you said, you never know. Somebody would have to go. I mean, I already have in mind who would who would be a a key part into that. It would be Deuce and it would be some some young assets to get to bring him back. I think Minnesota might might be interested. You never know. But again, you know, it’s all hypothetical. you know, conspiracy theory, whatever you want to call it. Just something just something out there. Just something to throw out there. I think I think the player I think the player that would be um the the best fit for that scenario would be a um um um highlevel ball handler defender with some championship sustainability and and upside, right? like like I’m not saying that they’ll trade for um who would be a good fit Hallebertton type, right? Like a ball handler that’s young enough to play with this core that’s maybe locked in for like two years like like the year he’s traded for and then two additional years where you won’t have to worry about extending him or losing him in free agency. um somebody that you legit could could explain to the fan base like the only reason why we did this move is because we’re in win now mode. Because if you trade if you trade Deuce McBride, fans are going to be upset, right? Give a damn. Yeah. If you if you trade Josh, fans are going to be upset cuz Josh while his B while he’s done some questionable basketball stuff, he’s endeared himself to the fans of New York, right? He’s kind of like a fan favorite. And if you trade him, you got to bring it. You got to send it’ll be like, y’all remember when um the Golden State Warriors traded Monte Ellis for Andrew Bogat? Anybody remember that? And the on opening night they booed the owner so bad that the owner cried on the floor. Yep. Yeah. Anybody remember that? Like they the fans thought the fans thought that kid was better than Steph. Yep. And boy were they wrong. Yep. Yep. They booed they booed the owner so bad they ra because they was raising hell before that night, right? They would because if for those that don’t remember it was the night that they retired Chris Mullen’s jersey. Yeah. Anybody remember Chris Mullen? Of course. Queens. Queen. Yeah. I forgot Queens in the building. Yeah. So the night they retiring Chris Mullen jersey, the owner can’t even talk about Chris Mullen because they’re booing them so bad about trading Monte Ellis from um for Andrew Bogett. Right. And I’m not saying that that the Knicks will do that. But what I am saying is a team that is in a long time championship drought and the only thing they have is like their heartstrings because they don’t have championships, they’re going to let their voices be heard, bro. Can you imagine doing that? Freezy. Marcus Smart was viewed as the heart and soul longest tenure Boston Celtic and they flipped that man for a championship piece and they won a championship and and and no fan has no regret about it now after shooting it. No. Nope. You’re exactly right. And then Andrew Bogat helped lead them to what? I mean, not him as the main piece, but hey, man, them illegal screams were very crucial. Crucial. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those illegal streams were very intricral. Hey, let me tell you something, man. In the game of chess, man, sometimes that piece you don’t want to lose, you you sacrifice. I mean, crazy, you know, the queen sacrifice. You got to keep it above. To keep it above, he was one of the best he was one of the best run protectors in the league for that short period, that first chip. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. In chess, you make the queen sacrifice for what? Because what is the object of the game? Checkmate. Yeah. So, there you go. You’re you you’re dead on with it, man. Yeah. And it hurt. It hurts. It hurts. But hey, you get the chip, everything. It’s all good, man. Yep. You get the chip, it’s all good. Yep. Basically, Basically, that’s where we basically that’s where we at with it, bro. Like I I can’t imagine the Knicks not making a a championship level trade without I mean or or making a run at the championship without making that trade during the year. I think they have to make that that trade. And and and listen, I’m not saying that I want them to shake up the roster. That’s not what I’m saying. What I’m saying is is in order for you to get to that place, you have to figure out, you have to talk to Mike Brown like, “Hey dog, what what are we what are we missing?” Like, like what are we missing here? And if he tells you explicitly like this is what we’re missing in order to win a championship, you got to go get that thing, bro. Like, you legit gota you got to go get that thing. Like, no excuses. You gotta go get that thing and give Mike Brown what he need in order to reach his goal, bro. That that’s my now that’s my stance on it and I do believe there are trades out there unlike I I know listen I understand content creators are going to tell tell everybody like nah this is impossible like you can’t trade such and such because of salary and all this stuff they’re going to say a thousand different things to keep you locked into a certain thing but none of that is true and my belief is and it’s the reason why Dre is here, Cash is here, it’s the reason why Coach is here, it’s the reason why it’s other smart people here. My belief is if you give smart people room to operate, they will do smart stuff. And you can’t say that the Knicks don’t have a very smart front office, right? Because there was this time last year or thereabout about about this time last year, people were explaining to me about how smart the call Anthony Towns trade was, right? They were saying like, man, they signed them to like $1 over the salary thing just to make sure that and like all these different things. And I’m like, well, that means they’re smart if they have enough foresight and enough guile and enough execution to get that done months in advance, then that’s a smart front office. And then to assume that this year, that same front office that’s very smart that has guile and gumption can’t pull off a trade this year. I would say, nah, now we just now we just speaking to our own egos as opposed to giving smart people credit for being smart. Yeah, that’s my stance on it. May and maybe I’m wrong. I could be wrong. Like if someone if someone said, “Y’all want trade man at the trade deadline? Who? Trey man. Bro, I’ll go get Trey man myself. I know. I know you close enough, Freezy. You know, I go I go pick up that man myself. And I think I think my niece worked for the organiz she either worked for the Hornets or the Panthers. I one of She either said I I don’t know if I think she worked for the Panthers. Yeah, I think she worked for the So, I probably won’t be able to pick them up. But do you think I won’t one of the first purchases I make won’t be a trade man jersey, bro? But coach, I don’t think I don’t think But I don’t think you can trade him because I think they extended him, right? They extended him for the next like six months or so. The same thing as Male though. Yeah. If they extended him at the beginning of the season from from what I heard as far as male Yeah. right before the Allstar techar break I mean the trade deadline I mean I’m sorry trade deadline. Yeah. Yeah. I would I think they I think that that’s the move. Now, the thing is, the thing is, um, who do we envision the Knicks going after? Like, what do we think the Knicks need? Right. Cuz, cuz I put a question mark out there. Whatever Mike Brown says he needs, they’ll go get. That was my question mark. Yeah. Right. But fans can’t wait. Like, legitimately, we’re tea kettles. So, you can’t leave us on the stove and think we’re gonna be quiet because hell no. That’s not how this thing That’s not how this thing work. But Cash, if there there’s a move out there, bro, I wouldn’t be surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Knicks go after whoever they for instance, let me let me ask chat for all of y’all hoopers in the chat. Y’all see Mike Brown system and y’all see the roster, right? You see the potential of the roster. Who do you guys envision or what type of player do you envision the Knicks going after as the finishing piece? I think they want someone that has some athleticism, some rangess to them. I think part of the reason they they took a risk with the diara signing and there’s like murmurss of the Ben Simmons stuff is they wanted another wing or somebody that gives them some added flexibility because if you’re building around Cat and Brunson, you need more versatility no matter what. You need a you need a guy that can play multiple positions and attempt to cover for the misgivings on the other end. So that’s why I feel like they they they they put feelers out for Diwara and they’re thinking about the Ben Simmons stuff. Like whoever it is, if we do trade for someone is going to be someone that’s 67 or taller with some sort of outlier skill set that’ll give them versatility, whether it’s ball handling, feelings out for Diwara. No, I mean they put feelers out for Ben Simmons, but they they drafted Dawir. Okay. Okay. for the solid like versatility. I think that com is getting unlocked this year, bro. Telling you. Telling you, bro. I feel it. Hey, I’ll say this. Mike Brown values guys that are taller and can shoot at the same time. Yeah. Like Keegan. Like Keegan Murray, right? Like Keegan, I was just going to mention Keegan Murray. Uh, I do see some I don’t know how Pome Dier’s defense is gonna stack up, but I see him playing like Yeah, I kind of agree with that. The Keegan Murray role that he did in Sacramento. Yeah. But that I will say Keegan Murray got more leash because he was a lottery pick. Yeah. So, you have to play him. You have no choice. But but if if Dier’s shot seem real, man, if he but if he’s efficient and consistent with that shot, like you said, you’ll see you’ll see him in the lineup. He’ll be getting it’s only a matter of time with that jumper. Like everything about his everything about his form and his fundamentals. It’s a it’s a I’ll say this, it’s the most beautiful jumper we have on the team right now. Yeah, man. And just how it looks like it’s like what 68 maybe 69. That dude’s 610, bro. You know. Yeah, it could be. Yeah, cuz he’s still growing. I mean, he’s only what 20, man. He’s He’s still young. So, yeah. Yep. Yep. I want to see Dier run with the other four starters, bro. Yep. That’s how you That’s how you get better. Oh, that’s how you extend your window as well. Yeah. I mean, it ain’t going to hurt the Knicks to have those four starters and Pome like that fifth starting spot can be a use all 12 other guy, all other 11 guys on the roster to let them all take turns at that fifth spot. Why not? You got all season to try. see what sticks. Yep. Yep. Because now’s the time to do it. Because now is the time to do it, bro. Cuz we And you know what’s funny about that, coach? He’s actually going to give these guys the opportunity to to take the position. So like, he’s not one of those coaches that has an idea of what’s going to work and run it for the entire year with no deviation. He’s going to give multiple guys an opportunity in different lineups to see what they can do and if they’re up to the challenge because he’s he’s played undrafted rookies. Yeah. Like he’s started undrafted rookies. If you can give him something that he’s looking for in a particular lineup, he’ll go with it. He don’t he don’t give a damn who you are. Yep. Yep. That’s one of the things I like about Mike Brown. And one of the things I dislike about about Mike Brown, right, is the tinkering. The tinkering [ __ ] will drive you crazy, bro. Like, it’s like when me and coach get ready to go somewhere. Me and coach get ready to go out in the town and coach changes outfit seven times. Hey, man. Just put some [ __ ] on so we can go, bro. You know what I’m saying? I mean, come on. That’s what I’m saying. Like, y’all know what I’m talking about. Like y have have y’all ever been around somebody that legit like uh maybe a music producer, somebody that like has a track and they want the track to be perfect and you’re like, “Bro, we already told you it was fire.” You’re like, “Nah, man. It’s missing. I gotta tune up these drums.” And be like, “Okay, we’ll see you in seven years.” Sound like you describing Dr. Dre. Yeah. Yeah. Or Brian Wilson, bro. He started Terrence Davis, bro. Five days. Yeah. And he hadn’t been in the league since. Yeah. So that just shows you. That just shows. And he was the number now mind you that 22 23 season. Um he made all rookie over RJ. Yeah. And they they were the number three seed. Okay. in the west. Yep. Yeah. Like who the hell was I mean what pick was Keegan Murray? Four four pick. Yeah, he was the four. I mean I mean Kevin Herder was the fulltime starter there. Yeah, he g he gave some starts to uh Keon Ellis, undrafted rookie. Yeah, Tinker, bro. He gonna make y’all so mad, bro. And I’mma laugh cuz I can see it coming, but he’s gonna make us so mad at times, bro. We gonna want to fight each other, bro. We just gonna crank up Annie up. We gonna put Annie up on 10 and just get in the room and fight each other because of Mike Brown, bro. I what? Evan Herder averaged 15 points a game, bro. Yeah. At 24 years old. 24, right? Yeah. For Mike Brown. I think one thing Mike Brown realizes too in in being with New York and and with this situation that he’s walking into that um not to say that he’s not going to tinker, but his margin for error is like really slim. So, not that I I won’t say that he won’t he won’t do any tinkering, but maybe you know it’ll be a very short leash on whatever tinkering that he does do. Is this Marvin Fer Slim? I think we have so much talent that it can allow him to tinker. Yeah, it’ll allow him to tinker. But what I’m saying is, are you talking about schematically? Are you talking about schematically or roster? I’m talking about like Okay. Let’s say he tinkers with with whatever. I I’m not naming a specific situation, but my point of the matter is is because of the tinkering, we go on say like a fivegame losing streak or something. You know, you know we gonna be talking. You know we gonna be saying stuff. Yeah. Why this? Why that? Just do this. Right. So that that’s what I’m referring to in in in connection with the tinkering. Not to say that um he’s not going to do any of it, but if it doesn’t work, he needs to trash it quick and move on to something else. That ain’t going to happen, bro. That that cash I’m telling you, bro. Cuz what’s what basically what’s going to happen is he’s going to tinker so much with something and if it frustrates him, he’s not going to stop tinkering. He’s going to start tinkering with something else. Right. You yo, you ever been around somebody who who a smoker? Like they be outside, they be they maybe smoke two cigarettes while you outside 30 minutes and then they come in the building and then they start chewing gum. You’re like, damn, bro. Like you just got to be doing something, huh? Chad, y’all know anybody? Y’all know anybody like that? Like legit. Yeah, Beyonce. As long as you know why he’s had to tinker before? Cuz he had poo ass rosters. That’s why. Well, maybe it’s his nature, coach. I don’t know. Well, he wasn’t a tinkerer on on on the Cavs and the Lakers to this extent, but we got to make this assertion like maybe he’s a tinkerer based on circumstance or talent. Yeah. Like maybe he’s forced to do that over there because they didn’t get him the wings that he wanted. Well, remember he wanted OG, he wanted MueL, he wanted them to play for certain players. So, he when he didn’t get those players and he’s like figure trying to jumble around lineups, I think some of it is circumstantial. Okay. From what I’ve heard in his tenure in Sacramento, it was exactly what uh what Dre mentioned that he didn’t have the the talent to fill what he was what he was trying to achieve. And so that’s that’s why he tinkered so much. Whereas if he had uh better talent or a better, you know, better roster, you know, he would he would tinker a lot less. Yeah. But he I mean, like I said, it’s like you’re supposed to tinker until something sticks, you know? Okay. in my eyes. Like if you think his second season there, he came out with the same three star like the his first year there he ended up Sabonis Fox, Harrison Barnes, Keegan Murray, and Herder started 79, 73, 82, 78, and 75 games. That’s not a lot of tinker. I mean, that’s with the start with the starting lineup. Right now, the guys behind maybe. But then the following season, he came out with that same starting five. I think Herder got hurt for a little bit and they got they got Keon Ellis. you put him in the lineup a little bit, but other than that, it was the same starters, you know, like to me, I don’t know. You got to tinker with that. And the other thing is when you look at the minute distribution, teams he plays for, I look I like to see like his second year there. They had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11 guys with double digit minutes with three starters over 30. Keegan Murray averaged like 29.8 herder was 29.4. But their bench their six bench guys average 22 minutes, 18 minutes, 17 minutes, 13 minutes, 10 minutes. That’s He’s using that bench. And when we talk about he didn’t have the talent he’s got here when he’s with the Lakers. What was the talent he had besides you know who Yeah. That roster wasn’t Yeah. Yeah. That was that was a that was fake talent. Yeah. Remember the Knicks used to have fake talent? Like we man we’re super yo you remember when the nick talk about the bench mob Emanuel quickly and Quinton Grime yo the bench mob not really bench I was more like the bench get along game no bomb yeah my thing with my thing with tinkering was was not just in in those terms though what I’m talking about with with tinkering is is everything, right? Like legitimately like it nothing is off limits in in terms of of Mike Brown and and what he’ll make adjustments or tinker with. Like legit nothing like Mike Brown like just because the same guys play don’t mean they run the same offense or defense or or anything like that. And I don’t mean like in-game adjustment. Yeah. I’m like, what I’m talking about is, hey, man, we made we went like we went like six straight quarters where we didn’t score 30 points in a quarter. All right. Most coaches will be like, well, guys were missing shots. Guys were [ __ ] out. The law averages will will, you know what I’m saying, come into play. Mike Brown will be like, put our put your foot on the gas, right? or or or Mike Brown to be like, “Hey, slow everything all the way down, right? And work with Sabonis from the free throw line, right? Things things like that.” Like, just see what we can get. Can we get a guy Can we get Keegan Murray going, bro? Keegan Murray hit 14 threes in a game one time, bro. Did y’all know Keegan Murray went 14 for 14 in an NBA game? He could have went 15 for 15, but he missed the 15 shot. just stuff like like Mike Brown offers you like a an entire pallet of orurves or just stuff like he’s going to do like things during the year. I think that’s the reason why he got the job over Taylor Jenkins, right? Because he is g he is going to he like the mom that say McDonald’s we got McDonald’s at home. That like legit that is what I’m saying. McDonald’s don’t use the bread. Right. Right. Right. I’m gonna make you I’mma make you something better than McDonald’s. Right. Yeah. Better than McDonald’s. Yep. That’s right. That’s I’m talking about right there. like Mike Brown is going to tinker to and and I know it’s not an exciting thing to talk about like man why we talk about Mike Brown tinkering but it’s it’s one of them things man where it’s like that’s the guy that’s who he is what he gonna do he’s going to run he’ll run I I wouldn’t be surprised to be honest with you I wouldn’t be surprised to see Kev McCulla play on ball Do I want to see that? No. Right. Do I want to see like all these wild scenarios? No. I want to see a level of trustability and consistency. Right. But with Mike Brown, you’re going to get tinker and you’re going to have to trust the fact that he’s a tinkerer and he knows what he’s doing. Why did he get fired in LA? Why did he get fired that in LA that year? Because the Because LA was a mess. Do you remember Kobe Bryant was coming back off the two the two um devastating injuries in one season? Remember that? Remember the year before that Kobe Bryant was shooting at shooting free throws with a torn Achilles? Was that with that, Dre? Was that the season? Uh, say it again. What? Basically Kobe Basically Kobe Bryant was washed. Yeah. And Steve Nash was washed. Uh, yeah. And when Steve Nash was injured at the time and Kobe was basically playing a ridiculous amount of minutes to keep the Lakers in playoff contention and his body broke down. Yeah, they just Yeah, they were playing like five minutes. I think Dan Tony was the coach. Yeah. had that was I think it was the year after they fired Mike Brown. No, but the thing is Mike Brown played was the coach that one year for in LA they were they were 41 and 26. Yeah. 41 and 25 cuz that was that strike short year, right? Or something. Yeah. Yeah. And they were on pace for 50 plus wins. Easy. And they lost to the team that went to the finals. Yeah. Oh, that was they lost to OKC with big with you know Durant and all them and then they then they fired him five games into the next season. Five games into the next season. I’m talking about Yep. That’s Yeah, I’m talking about. Yeah. I mean, come on, man. Like what am I? That’s why I get tired of hearing about when coach like people don’t realize when guys that his last year in Cleveland. Well, he was 61 and 21, bro. Yeah. And he didn’t come back. That ain’t getting fired. That’s an executive making a weird decision for their franchise. Yeah. I mean, that’s weird franchises doing weird franchise stuff and and then he had they hired Dan Tony right after they fired Mike Brown. Yeah. That’s why they did did it because they wanted Dean Tony period. It had nothing to do with Mike Brown. And and and that that move was for Kobe and Steve Nash because Kobe has a past relationship with Dan Tony because Dan Tony played with his father in Italy. Yeah. And Steve Nash, obviously Steve Nash and Danton. Yeah. And it turned out badly. He had that dumpster fire roster, the leftover LeBron roster, and all those lottery picks and busts. Yeah. when uh Lu Dion freaking Waiters was your number two score. Yeah. Spencer Halls was like your start center at one time. Yeah. He was hurt that year or so. CJ Miles, like that team, he got fired one season there and because they he only had 33 wins. to get that team to win 33 games when you got Lu all dang still playing that team was a he improved that team from like what 15 17 wins to 33 then they fired anyway in like one year one and done that’s like so and the Kings Kings. The Kings are the Kings, bro. They They don’t need an explanation, bro. Yeah, that’s just weird. It’s It’s the Kings, bro. The Kings don’t need organiz They They don’t have a good organization in uh Sacramento. What What happened was they decided to trade Mike Brown and De’Arren Fox said, “I am not playing for anyone but Mike Brown here, so trade me.” Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was the it was an organization and then I heard the organization is not that great. And they’re blaming Mike Brown for giving that man a roster with like one wing and your biggest improvement your biggest offseason upgrade was D Rozan, bro. And then after that you decide then then after that you decide to get Zack Lavine. And then he had two epic runs as an assistant. Two pretty damn good. Yo, GI in the chat. I didn’t even see G. Hey, GI. Yo, what up, GI? Man, I don’t even want to uh we I don’t even That’s all I’ve been hearing is about my these Mets. Hey, man. Fat, bro. automatically sim the rest of the season out. If they make the playoffs, they make the playoffs. If they don’t, they don’t. I I don’t even care anymore, bro. I to Yo, coach, I told Dre something um about a month and a half ago, and I think he didn’t think it made sense, but I’m telling you, bro, you got to play Swaggy. Swaggy is the reason why the Mets win. When you start manipulating Swaggy, bro, like sometime yo, it’s Yo, sometimes you gotta let Josh Hart be the starter, bro. Right. That’s what Swag is. Like Swag is that, bro. Put Swag at third base. He gonna fumble four balls a game. Pause. But he’s going to be huge. Yo, you don’t remember how clutch Swag was in the playoff in the playoffs, bro? Swag hit five home runs in the playoffs, bro. Yeah, bro. We thought Brett We thought Brett Batty was the the the third baseman of the future, bro. They moved Brett Batty off of third base because of Swag, bro. And when Swag got hurt, the the Mets start losing. Swag came back. Now he DH slash now they want him at first base slash sometime third base, bro. Put him at third base and let him slug, bro. And I like Mauricio, too. I like Mauricio. Mauricio, my guy, right? But no, man. You can’t you can’t do that to Swag, bro. They can’t play outside Chase Stadium, bro. Bro, they forget how to hit. It’s because of swag, bro. You gotta bat Swaggy six. Leave him alone. Let him make his errors at third base and let him help car, bro. You got Juan Sto and you can’t score, bro. You got Pete and Sodto and Lindor and you can’t score. I don’t understand, man, like how you can one win the last 10 games. Y’all know me, bro. I would I would play I would play We talk about good things, positive things. We talk about the Knicks. I want yoag. You don’t like swag, bro? I’m saying you’re ruining my mood talking about the Mets, man. Are you a swag hater, Dre? How you a swag hater, bro? Even but even when he plays, he hasn’t been good this year. He’s picking it up slowly, but bro, when was Marty’s last hit, bro? Marte had a home run and a double tonight. Oh, well, I didn’t see the game tonight. So, yeah, had a home run. That’s the first time he got a hit in what, six games. You want to know how he lost? He hit a double with two out, right? And McNeil hit a base hit and he got thrown out at home. He can’t run anymore, bro. We should have pinched ran with Tyrone, but whatever. Yeah, I remember when Marte used to be that guy in Pittsburgh, bro. He used to be that guy. Speed everywhere. I remember when they were talking about putting Marte in center over um McCutchen. Remember with Marte and McCutchen? Remember McCutchen had just won an MVP? He used to be a good center fielder. Yeah, they had a great outfield. They had um Oh, who was the guy in in left field for them? They had a great outfield and they had Pittsburgh had a great offense. They had um the the big first baseman, the Duke switch something. And then they had the the the um the the small second baseman, Josh something. Reynolds. Was it Reynolds? I can’t I don’t I don’t second base. I think it was Josh Reynolds. Something. Yeah. Something. And then they had a second baseman that can hit. And then they had a dude in their farm system, something Brian Reynolds or something like that. that was that they were bringing. That’s what I was thinking about. Brian Reynolds. Well, the Met the Mets got a softball team, bro. It It’s It’s a lot of guys out there that just look lost at the play. It’s either home runs or nothing. Bro, we scored three runs in the last two nights and Sodto has two of them on homers and no one else is hitting. Sto has two of them and Marte has one. Just I It’s frustrating. You got to fire the manager, bro. No, you got to fire that hitting coach. Yeah, man. That hitting coach is abysmal. No, last year we were slugging. And now, bro, our top batting average, I mean, Martay don’t count count because he’s part time, but if you count him, he’s the 269. because it’s it’s Pete and he’s like Pete Alonzo’s batting 264 the best. He’s that’s the best average on the team. Are you kidding me? He was batting 249 one time. He went from like 303 to 249. Oh, I ain’t got no problem with Pete. Pete’s balling my eyes. He’s fine. His defense has been impressive, bro. Bro, when there’s people when there’s people on base, that’s who I want up, bro. He hasn’t been hit with people on base either. So, to be absolutely honest, nobody’s even getting on base. I mean, maybe not lately, but he got 91 ribbies, bro. Already. That’s a lot, bro. There’s some people in the league, bro, that already Yeah, man. That catcher from Seattle, man. I can’t stand out. I don’t I don’t I don’t like I don’t I hate our captors, bro. I think I think our our hitting coach ruined the young guys, man. Yeah, Alvarez Alvarez went from a pull hitter that hit for power and now he turned him into a guy that wants to punch the ball opposite field. Like his whole thing is that he can hit for power and they just like neutered him. I just uh whatever. Yep. Yeah, agreed. I don’t even know why Luis Torren even on the D, bro. I’ve never liked him. You didn’t never liked who? Louise. Louise Torrance. Torrance. The back. Yeah. Yeah. I like him, bro. His defense, his arm behind the plate, bro. I know, but come on, man. He Yo, that dude pass like 200. Yeah, he don’t play no games behind that plate, bro. I’m not I’m not denying that. But man, that man that man um is strong and accurate. That man damn near Johnny Finch back there, bro. You better not even lead off first, bro. But he can’t hit and that’s the reason why he bounced around. I mean, guess I’m just spoiled. So, you know, I’m used to Gary Carter and Mike Piaza, guys like that. You ready? Yeah, you you Yeah, you used to um you could even say Paul Luca. Yeah. And for the old oldtimers like myself, John Sterns. Y’all remember John Sterns? No. Hell, even Todd Hunley, bro. Todd Hunley. Yeah, he was a DH. That was terrible. He’s still a catch though. Yeah, he only thing I liked about his swag like he used to wear that wear the jersey flat open. You can see the taco meat. Yeah. Yeah. His his dad played for the um for the Mets, too, or the Cubs or somebody. Rod Hunley or something like that. Yeah, something like that. I can’t remember. Yeah, man. Nick said um he just got hit. Did he miss the um Mitch Bash? N bro, ain’t nobody matching. Um we didn’t me see why you we didn’t bench them once the whole night. Yeah, man. We ain’t nothing but hey. Well, from here ain’t nothing below. Now I will open up the I will start if y’all want to. So nobody want to bash deuce. Okay. All right. Hey coach, I’m I’m I want to bash Nick G. Pause. Yeah. No. Hey. Um Hey, I’mma get I want to wrap up here so I can do a little bit of echo and essence, man. I want to just chop it up a little bit. Talk some guy stuff. Um, and everybody listen, y’all got to check out Echo in Essence, man. His vibes and stuff is hil It’s hilarious, bro. Last night we was talking about Crocs. I didn’t even know Crocs was a thing. Anybody in the Anybody in the chat? No, Crocs and socks. I didn’t even know Crocs was a thing. Everybody, I wear I wear socks in my Crocs. No, I do. But not Wait, Dre, you wear Crocs? Absolutely. Hell yeah, man. That’s my boy. That’s Trey. What up? Yo, get out of here. Get out of here. Crocs for Crocs gang for life. Get you a pair of them, Friezy. Your feet will thank you for them. No, I He’s got a pair. He He didn’t wait the week or two breaking period. Make sure you keep them out of the sun, though, cuz they will shrink. Tell him Tell him how them threey old Crocs look. The ones I showed you. They like you just bought them. Ain’t put no wear, no nothing. Just he too cool to wear Crocs. No, he put them on once and they were a little bit snug on. Gave up on Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I gave up on Crocs, everybody. Hey everybody, thank y’all for coming through. Um I’m gonna say peace to everybody, man. I’mma go over here and coach. You feel like talking about DJs? Who? DJs. Cha cha cha. I guess we’re talking about DJs. Yeah. Okay. I I I’m gonna talk about DJs for a little bit, man. Um Hey, Chad, I’m gonna invite y’all to come over to Echoes and Essence so that we could talk a little bit um um about, you know, whatever whatever h whatever is happening. We just chopping it up over there. probably talk some um some some I want to talk some Detroit music like technical techno you coach you know anything about house music house music all night long anyway I know a little something about it yeah man so we got we got to chop it up I’m I’mma um I’m gonna see y’all over there thank y’all everybody for coming through gonna holl at y’all later peace everybody peace Yeah.

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