HOUR 2: Ben Anderson on why The Jazz Traded for Georges Niang | 60 in 60 Watchlist: John Taumoepe…
You’re locked on to Han Solson and Scotty Jin Chin. That’s right. Yeah. On 975, the KSL Sports [Music] [Music] Hans and Scotty 975 the KSL Sports Zone completely unrelated to our conversation here with Ben Anderson. Uh Christian, do you have an update on the what you got Wednesday uh poll from yesterday when I was hanging out with Ben. Oh yeah. Yeah. So best best Aggies. Scotty, you are leading 73 to 27 and best Scots, you are leading uh 59 to 41. Holy. Oh, that’s a little closer than I was expecting. Yeah, but still you’re going two for two right now. Ben Anderson joining us now. Hi, Ben. How are you? Hey, Ben. My phone was breaking up. I didn’t hear what you guys were just talking about. I just We can uh we can hope you’re good. No, we’re good, man. Hey, it was a blast hanging out with you yesterday. Appreciate it. And uh thanks for coming on with us. Hey, really quick, Ben, I want to get the reasoning. Why Why no Johnny Manzel on Famous Aggies? Yeah, I got I drafted I drafted Mike Evans. He was the good one, right? Mike was the good one in that duo. Mike Evans really was the one that made Johnny Manzel look good. I mean, if you were to pull a household, one person might know Mike. All five would know Johnny. I can’t believe you are so pro. Look, I’m not a Johnny football guy. I’m just telling you he’s a household name. They Netflix didn’t run a special on Mike Evans. They ran a special on Johnny Manzel. Fair enough. So, you’re saying, well, you also wanted uh Scott Peterson on the Scott list, too. Yes. Famous Petersons. Oh, sorry. Famous Scots. Yeah, that would Would you care to comment on that one, Ben? Uh, no. I’ll pass on that one. You know, we didn’t take Scott Beao either, and that was kind of the obvious lowhanging fruit, but uh we tried to get a little creative with a lot of golfers. You guys went with like four or five Scott golfers, didn’t you? Uh, he took Scotty Sheffller. I don’t think I took a golfer. There’s an Adam Scott in there, wasn’t there? Adam’s got the actor. The actor. Oh, yeah. All right. Uh, okay. Um, George Niang, you and I touched on this a little bit yesterday. Probably doesn’t change things in terms of wins and losses, but what kind of attributes can he bring to the locker room to help the development of these guys? Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think on the court, his ability to spread the floor is going to help everybody out. I just think having consistent floor spacers gives everyone room to develop. It’s just a it’s a nice guy who’s going to show up and do his job every day. doesn’t need a lot of touches, isn’t gonna complain if he doesn’t get a lot of touches, probably doesn’t need to play every night, but is going to make things easier when he’s on the court. And I think that’s that gets a little bit underrated when you talk about, you know, young players getting as many opportunities as possible. You do want it to reflect an actual basketball game. You want it to look like they’re actually playing NBA basketball so they have space that they can, you know, expect when they’re actually playing on a good team. And I do think George Ning steps in and offers that immediately. And you know, you know, Lowry’s going to play a lot and that’s not a surprise. But outside of him, I’m not sure how many like guaranteed great shooters there are on this Jazz roster. I think Bryce can really shoot a lot, but again, he’s still one of these young guys. How much are you going to put on his plate to carry a big load there? So, if you can have George step in and play that role, it just that means Cody Williams doesn’t have to be a, you know, a three-point shooter. It means Ace Bailey doesn’t have to be a great three-point shooter right away. And sometimes three-point shooting becomes a shortcut for guys. It’s just like, well, this is what I do. And it can stem their development a little bit elsewhere. It is one of the mo most important things you can do. It is a great way for guys to, you know, become NBA players if the rest of their game doesn’t develop. But there’s not a lot of stars who are just three-point shooters. So, if the Jazz are trying to figure out which of these young players can be a star or can score with the ball in their hands, you know, being able to actually operate, attack the rim, not just have a specialty as a shooter, uh, G, it makes it a little bit easier with George on the floor. Give us your best projection for the starting five for the Utah Jazz. I think Keont is going to start. I I think that may that might be my wildest guess of players who, you know, weren’t starting late last season. The Jazz kind of liked his sixman of the year role or or six-man role that he played last season, but I think right now when you need shooting and I understand he’s not a great shooter, but I think he’s much better than Isaiah Collier. I I think that matters and I think you’re still trying to figure out if this guy’s going to be a star or what type of role he has. And maybe I’m way off on that. Maybe it’s just Isaiah Collier. If if you care about shooting and you’re going to let Will Hardy coach, I think you can go Kee at the one, maybe Ace Bailey at the two, Lowry Markin at the three, Flip at the four, and Walker Kesler at the five. And and adding George Nang could could change that because he could certainly step in at the three, and then that moves Lowry to the four and makes it a little easier to play. Or you can play George Niang at the four. But I if you are going to try and put a product on the floor that looks like a basketball team, you have to have shooting. And that’s where I could see the Jazz trying to get Kante George out there maybe a little bit more. And again, everything I’ve heard is he’s had a huge summer. Uh I think some of the moves that they made, including Colin Ston, were really about getting the young guards on the floor, but that does still include Keonte George. They clearly did move him this summer. So I I I could see them trying to make sure he has a big opportunity and might be the best of both worlds between playmaking. Not as good as Isaiah, but he’s probably better than Wall Clayton at this point. And while he may not be as good a shooter as Walt Clayton, he’s a better playmaker. And that might just be kind of the easy place to start the year. Um, is this team from a win loss standpoint, and I, this may not be a fair question to ask, does this team win more than last year’s team? Yeah, they definitely win more than last year’s team. It it’s you have to try to win only 17 games and that’s why we saw what the Jazz did last year, you know. I mean, by was it November, Lowry Martin was resting games already. And I know it was chocked up to a back or whatever it was, but Jordan Clarkson’s uh on again off again planter fasciitis started really early in the year. So, I I just don’t think you’re going to see that as much. That doesn’t mean I think Lowry is going to play 75 games. He usually doesn’t. Even when he’s been healthy, he doesn’t play that many games. But I I I just think you’re going to see a team that plays consistently more often. Um and as a result, you know, you add five or six wins, which I know doesn’t seem like a lot, especially when you stretch it out over a six-month season. But you’re talking about an extra win every two weeks, and when you’re playing only six or seven games over those two week stretches, that extra win does feel like a lot, I think, for the fan base, even if it doesn’t dramatically change what your lottery odds are going to be. So, I don’t think the Jazz are going to finish with the worst record in the NBA. I still think they’re one of the three or four worst teams and if you do that you’re still guaranteed to have your top eight draft pick next year without it going to OKC. What was the point of bringing in Yousef Nerkage? Uh I do think they wanted to clear room. I mean mo most of it was about getting off of Colin Ston’s uh final year because look truthfully Colin’s 25. He deserves to play. He’s still the best player in the Jazz’s back court if he were still here and it’s the last year of his contract. So, he’s got to play and you got to let him go out there and show that he can earn, you know, his next contract. And look, no one’s feeling bad for for Colin making $18.5 million this season. But, he’s pretty underpaid for what type of player I think he is. And he’s going to look to be trying to make, you know, 25 or 30 million. And I don’t know if that’s going to get there for him, but you got to at least give him the chance. And you you would really hurt the agent, which is clutch. You don’t want to mess with Clutch that way. I don’t think you you don’t want to mess with those guys and saying like, “Hey, we’re only playing you 40 minutes at a contract here.” like you’re just not going to get money and you run the risk of some of these guys who are really good players who were signing NBA minimums or really low contracts. I don’t think that’s fair to do to Colin. So that’s the number one part of it. But actually Nerkage comes in and does offer some balance. He he’s a backup big man who’s going to spill into that role. I don’t think you want to play Kyle Filipowski there a whole lot. I don’t think he’s actually a five. I think he’s a four. So you just kind of have a two deep now at all the positions. You’ve got a legit 10 guys on the floor who will play. Does that mean they can play? I don’t know. We don’t know what to expect from Ace Bailey yet and we don’t know if Cody Williams is ready or what Taylor Hendricks is going to look like. But I think you can pretty easily pencil in like there are 10 guys here and probably 11 when you include Kyle Anderson that should be able to play every night to give Will Hardy at least enough tools to get to the finish line. Do you think Taylor Hendricks is at a point in his health where we can finally make a determination on him this year? And is it fair to make that determination this season? I wouldn’t. Uh I you know health-wise yeah I think he’ll be you know by all understanding is he’s going to be back and ready to go the first day of training camp. Uh and that’s a great sign for him but still kind of the intel I’ve gotten is that they’re going to bring him along really slowly. So I I don’t expect him to start. I think that would be a lot to put on his plate after that injury. You know I you you want to see physically how he holds up but then mentally just like let him come along slowly. Let him get back to where he’s comfortable and so he’s you know playing the right way and handling what he can handle. And the truth is, you’ve got a lot of other guys who can play in front of him or, you know, earn some minutes that allow him to be brought along slowly. So, you do it the right way. I think rushing him back could just be a setback for him. And if he’s not playing well, do you rattle him? You feel like, oh, if he’s not playing well, you got to send him down to the G- League, which maybe he does anyways. But no, I I I would be hesitant on how much I expect uh or or would would want to see from Taylor uh to make a real judgment off of. The interesting thing is he is eligible for a contract extension next summer and and you know if he doesn’t play great but actually could be beneficial for the Jazz where they say lock him up. Let’s get him to a long-term deal. We think he is going to come out of this and be fine in the long run even if this first year was just like you know kind of a trial run to get back on the floor but maybe you can lock him up to a longterm deal and it ends up being beneficial for you. I’ve got Cody Williams as the second best summer league performance through Vegas and Utah. I’ve got obviously Phil Powky. I don’t know how you don’t just look at that summer before. I don’t I don’t know why he was on the court as much as he was to be honest with you, but I felt like Cody Williams had some really good moments through summer league, whether it was in Vegas or here in Utah. What is the ceiling for him, Ben? How good could Cody Williams be? His brother’s incredible. Brother obviously dragged into the championship series and and and incredible things from him, but how good could Cody be? I think Cody can be really good. I mean, I I don’t know if he’s a star. I don’t know if Cody’s going to have that, you know, ability to become a star. And you don’t want to pull that off the table. Guys develop at different, you know, uh, timelines, and his brother developed at a later timeline than where Cody is expected to be right now. So, that’s not really fair to put on him. But, I don’t know if he has the kind of me first guy, I’m going to take over and be a number one guy type of mentality that stars generally have. Now, with that said, I think he still has the ability to be a starter. I think he’s going to be a good defensive player. I think his length just gets in the way in a good way. I think he saw that a lot. Several two steel or two block games in the summer league. And I think that’s going to be something the Jazz are going to have to focus on. And two two-way players are super valuable in the NBA. I mean, the more two-way guys you can have, the better shape you’re going to be in. And I think Cody right now, you know, you look at the Jazz’s young roster, like Keonte doesn’t play a lot of defense. Bryce doesn’t play a lot of defense. Flip doesn’t play a lot of defense. You hope Ace plays a lot of defense. You know, Taylor Hendricks will and I think Cody Williams has a chance to do it as well. So, he’s got to figure out what his role is going to be offensively, but I think he can be a good piece defensively and and good teams just have guys who play both sides of the floor. And so, I I would think Cody still is a top six or seven guy in a rotation. Uh, and if he really peaks, maybe he can be, you know, the fourth best player. I just don’t know if he’s going to be one of your top two or three guys that’s making, you know, $35 million a year that you’re building your identity around. If the Jazz decide to try to move Lari Markin near the trade deadline, uh, is this weird landscape of the NBA work against them where kind of the upper middle class of the NBA doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of demand for them in terms of how they work against the apron and things like that. Can what might be nice for the Jazz is that Lowry might be the best player available and those guys always fetch a high price you know because Kevin Durant’s been moved already uh some of those you know Jaylen Williams even though or excuse me Jaylen Green who was in that deal for Kevin Durant got moved like some of the guys that were going to be out there that were going to be available that were going to be on the trade market it’s kind of already found their landing spot so I I think there’s a chance that even though Lowry’s $40 million is probably a bit restrictive in the in the new landscape. I I I think you can live with it, especially if he’s the best guy out there. And there’s a team that should be able to sell itself on $40 million from Lowry Markin and you know, the Miami Heat might be willing to make a move like that. We’ll see. Um I I I think that can get done. I think some of those trades can get done. You know, Pascal Seakum got moved. Believe that was in season. Um Ojanobi’s been moved. We’ve seen some of these these players that are not quite super superstars, but are probably top 30 or 40 players even with big contracts uh moved around when a team feels like we want to make an improvement. We want to make the biggest splash that’s out there. And I think Lowry has a chance to be that. And I think he’s going to rebuild his his value. You know, I think playing in Euro Basket at the end of this month is going to be good for him. He’s going to come into camp in shape. I think the Jazz are just going to play him a lot because they need him to play a lot because he’s going to have to score and you know they don’t have young players that they can count on to score easily and efficiently just to be competitive most nights. So I think Lowry’s value will probably be rebuilt and you know maybe not to 25 and eight like he was his all-star year but you know better efficiency u on the floor more often fewer concerns about any potential injury assuming he’s healthy and and I would bet that there a market develops for him. teams want to get better and he’s going to be available and he’s a good player uh even if last year was down. So, if I’m him, I I just don’t know how I feel because I’m getting to the point where, you know, I’m getting into my late 20s and you’re in the prime of your career and you’re seeing this long rebuild process around you. Where do you think his mindset is going into this season? He’s always been a very good trooper. Um, and he’s always just kind of bought into what the Jazz are doing. I mean, he knew they were tanking last year. team was, you know, he didn’t talk about it necessarily on camera or anything, but it was pretty obvious if you talked to him around, he was on board with what the team was doing and understood it was going to be a long developmental year and that that was something he was going to have to sit through. And look, he’s gotten paid. I think he likes the state of Utah. So, I think that’s he he has an ability to, I guess, compartmentalize and value some things and say, look, you know, if I was somewhere else, I probably would have gotten $40 million a year. And I think that’s absolutely true. So, I think he can value that and then maybe make the best of it by playing well and getting traded somewhere else. And I think that probably is the most likely situation still. Uh, and I think he recognizes that that is up to him, you know, and there can be prime time teams like I mentioned in Miami that could maybe want to go out there and acquire him. I think those those opportunities will present themselves uh going forward. You know, I still wouldn’t rule out a Golden State if if certain things uh work together. They had looked at him very closely and I know they went out and got Jimmy Butler and that was kind of their big move last year, but they still have Jonathan Kaminga. We’ll see what type of contract he ends up on and Brandon Pajki. Like most of the pieces that they had when they were discussing a Lowry market and trade two summers ago are still there. Uh so I think that you could still see, you know, maybe something along those lines develop. And you know, I’m sure Lowry would love to play in Miami. Everyone likes playing in Miami. I’d love to play in Golden State where he would step into that Klay Thompson role. So, I I still think there’s a lot for Lowry to play for, and I think as a result, he’s on board. He He knows how to fall in line. So, Ben, there were six summer league games available, three in Vegas and three here in Utah. Why did we only see Ace Bailey in two of those? It was game one and game two. He had eight points in game one against Philly. He had 18. No, he had Yeah, 18 points, I think it was against Memphis. Why did we not see him through the rest of summer league? Yeah, first it was a I have to go back. Was it a hip flexor and it was a groin and then I think it turned into a hip flexor um or what whatever they ended up diagnosing with it with. And you know, they just want to be so so hyper sensitive to these types of little injuries that could be nagging because I do think summer league matters. And look, the Jazz have talked a lot about how, you know, Bryce Sensah and Taylor Hendricks were at a major setback because they didn’t play in the summer league coming out of their first year and Kante George did and Kante George was in the lineup to start the season and both of those other guys went to the G-League to start the year for the most part. So, I do think it matters to get out there. I also think they want to make sure that, you know, he’s got the rest of the summer to be healthy and play and not aggregate it or or excuse me, not aggravate it. And if it is a groin or one of these injuries, a hamstring, which is what Wall Clayton was dealing with late, that could linger, that could be, you know, three weeks here, four weeks there, that that can be a pretty major setback before. So, honestly, I think they’re being a little bit too careful. But look, I think Cooper Flag only played two games. Dylan Harper didn’t play a whole lot of games. So, the fact that we saw him at all, I guess, is a slight positive. Personally, you know, if you’re 18 and you haven’t played since March and it’s June, uh, or July and you’re only playing a couple of games, I’m not a fan of that. I would have much preferred to see them play more, recognizing that they’ve got 80 games coming up in front of them and you are going to have to push you through some things if you’re not 100%. But, I think that’s the reasoning. It’s just handling the guys with kid gloves at this point to make sure nothing else gets worse in the summer. Is uh Luca on pace to be the first hundred million dollar a year guy with that uh with that shortened contract extension? Let’s see. You got three years, right? Yeah. And I’m just trying to Some of this is just Yeah. He obviously he’s going to qualify for all the Super Max stuff. That’s not going to be in question for him. Honestly, the question is like is there some weird player, you know, Devin Booker is going to be the highest paid player in the NBA because he signs this weird two-year extension at $75 million a year. Conceivably, I guess, yeah, Luca could get there first, but like is there a team that’s just like, “Yeah, we want to reward our guy even, you know, for his loyalty or whatever.” So, like, does Giannis get a hundred million dollar deal before that? I I would have to look at some of those timelines, but it’s coming and then it’s not just going to be one guy, it’s just going to be so many guys in the NBA. It’s it’s it’s pretty insane in all honesty to think that we’re at that point where guys are going to be making over a million dollars a game. And for a lot of these guys, I mean, you’re talking about 50 or 60 nights a year is all they play. No one’s playing 82 games a year other than, you know, Male Bridges. So, uh, these guys are making a couple million dollars a game. It’s pretty insane. And then, you know, you get bonuses on top of it for making it to the playoffs. And those aren’t huge numbers, but yeah, the, uh, the salaries in the NBA are are getting more and more shocking by the offseason. So, are we just on the precipice? Are we at the very front of a dynasty with OKC? I don’t think so. Uh it you know if if it is obviously yes they’ve only won their first title. I just don’t think we’re going to see dynasties. I just really don’t I think a as much as we’ve talked about the tax aprons and how difficult it is to resign your guys. And that’s absolutely true. Like they’re going to be fine next year. The contracts don’t even kick in I think until the season after. Right. So, they’re going to have these guys for a while with Chad Homegrren and and Jaylen Williams, but you’re going to have to pay, you know, some of your other young players that were major difference makers, and you’re going to have to sacrifice a Lou Dort as a result, and you’re going to lose Isaiah Hartenstein as a as a result. And credit to them, they’ve drafted extremely well. Still, the best teams at drafting hit, you know, 30%. They’re not going to hit 80%. And a great run for OKC, but I don’t expect that to continue. And some of the lottery picks will dry up, even though I know they have so many first round picks coming up. um it just it’s just hard to keep it together. And then on top of it, one of the reasons why I think there’s fewer dynasties now than ever before is because the league is more talented than it’s ever been. And it’s because it’s gone a very long time without expanding. So rosters are shockingly talented and depth is winning out, which is really valuable right now. So you get in this trap of paying your top players 60 70% of your salary cap and the rest of your roster starts to fall off or you’re relying on young players. And you know, I would look at the Denver Nuggets maybe being the best case or or the best example of this where Jokic was paid and Jamal Murray was paid and Michael Porter Jr. was paid and they tried to pay Aaron Gordon. And then it’s like, well, the only money you have left is minimum contract guys and rookies. And I promise you, you talk to any vet as much as like unless you’re in the very last couple of years of your career and the contracts are all the same, guys are going to take a $10 million deal over a veteran minimum deal. Even if it means, you know, the veteran minimum deal comes with an opportunity to compete for a championship, go sign the Joe Johnson, get $10 million to play in Utah versus $2 million to play in Miami or wherever to compete for a title. I still want to make all as much money as they can and capitalize on that as long as possible. So, OKC should be the favorite going into next year, but you know, I’ve said that about Denver two years ago and Milwaukee a couple years before that and Boston this year. It’s just we there is a reason we’re not seeing these teams repeat. A, it’s really difficult to do. B, the injuries I think are going to pack up. And I’m I always worry about Chad Olrren. And then guys leave. Guys move on. It’s going to happen. You see the story about the uh security guard with the Heat that stole jerseys and sold them for $2 million? I did. I didn’t see how he did it. Was he just taking him right out of the locker room or did he like have unique access? He had unique access. and and he did have unique access, but I you and a lot of the beat writers, you know, you go in there in those in those postgame scrums. If there was a uh if there was a jazz beat writer that could be capable of doing something like that, who is it and why did you pick Andy Larson? Oh, it’s me, honestly. Don’t take this heat. Uh, you know what I do have? And actually, I didn’t steal this by any means, but it was being discarded and I asked if I could have it, and now I have it. I have Andress Beedrin’s name plate that was above his locker. So, I have that because Andre Beatrids truly might be the worst jazz player of all time. And I have his uh his name plate at my house. It’s buried. I don’t even have it displayed. It’s in a box of stuff that needs to hit the auction. You can get big money for that. You think someone wants beans? Andreas Pedrron’s uh big name plate sitting over his he might have played. I think he’s the only player in Jazz history to shoot a thousand%. He he never missed a shot. I think he’s the only Jazz player who’s ever done that. I also think he played two games and I think he may just taken one or two. So, uh you know, one time I saw it was locker room cleanout and I think Gordon Hayward threw away all of his socks. And Hans, have you done the uh the Jazz preseason media camp? Oh, yeah. A few times. And they give you like the really fancy socks, like the the real NBA socks. Yep. And I think Gordon Haywood threw away like 10 pairs. And I bet you, I don’t know, Hans, you played in the NFL. You probably got nice gear. I mean, what do we think these socks are? $25 a pair. Right around there. 25 to 30. Yeah, there was like a, you know, so probably $200 worth of socks in the garbage. And I, for a brief moment, I almost was like, George Castanza, eat the out of the garbage. Oh, you you ring those out. No, they they were laying on the top. You go home, you go launder those. You got great socks, man. But I left them. I I left them. But I saw it and I thought that felt that felt wasteful in my heart. Hey, all I’m saying is if there is a gear investigation on a federal level, Jody Guinness is getting a knock on his door. I guarantee I know that’s Jody. That’s for sure. Guarantee it. He’s getting a knock on. That’s a good point. I forgot about Jody. Hey, you’re the best, man. We appreciate it. Thanks for uh thanks for uh being a part of the show and uh let’s do it again here soon. Thanks, Ben. Yeah, thanks for filling in. Sorry about the draft. Talk to you guys later. You’re all good. That’s Ben Anderson. Sorry about the draft that he’s losing. Uh I think so. Yeah. You’re whooping him in Famous Aggies. Yes. Because he thought he’d be creative and go Mike Evans. Nobody knows the name. I went Lavell Edwards. He went Mike Evans. Everybody knows Lavel. That’s going to be in voting range. I know. Yeah. I played to the crowd a little bit. I’m not going to lie. It was crafty. It was a It was a crafty vet move. Yeah. I bet that he didn’t have Lavel on his draft board. No. No. 975 DKSL Sports Zone. This is your top 60 and 60 watch list as Hans and Scotty get you ready for the start of the 2025 college football season by highlighting the most influential players on their team for the upcoming season. And now get the call. Let’s go. Here’s today’s newest addition to the watch list. [Music] It is your top 60 and 60 watch list right here on 975 the KSL Sports Zone and it is time to get another entry onto the list. Let’s go to BYU as Colani introduces another one of his defensive linemen. John Doy Pal JT we call him. Um big physical DTackle. um he’s actually become one of the favorites from coach Boha to use in the middle. He can make moves and he’s agile. He’s a Dtackle that thinks and plays like a DN, but he’s got the size for DTackle, so that’s usually a good sign. Um and he can hold his ground and he doesn’t mind the physical part of the game. He he actually thrives on being physical in the line of scrimmage and loves those challenges. So, looking forward to him having more reps and more opportunities. He’s done a great job for us last year and he’s going to be really strong for us this year. So there you go. Should be a interesting addition to that defensive line. Big John Tomio, he is a special talent. So I don’t know what to think of Justin Kirkland. I can’t get many updates on him. You know, um when you’re out at media by observation, you’re not going to see enough or or know a lot. I do know that he was on a video earlier this week and he was like, “Hey, love being out there.” And kind of made it apparent that he’s a part of it, but I don’t know how much. And then, you know, you get updates from the defensive coordinating side of things, and they’re like, “Well, we don’t know exactly what to think with Kirkland.” Yeah. So, I don’t know what to think of Kirkland at this point. I I don’t know if he’s going to be a part of Portland State. I don’t know if he’s going to be a part of Stanford. I don’t know. It’s a big old question mark that needs to get answered. I at this point I’m going to say I’m going to get ready for Portland State without him. Okay. If I’m getting ready for Portland State without him, then John Tamay Pew is my second DTackle on an even front. I’ve got Kiana Tanavasa in a one to3 and I’ve got Tama Pew in a one to three in an even front. Okay. If Kirkland is healthy and ready and available then I’ve got him and then Tom IO is my first rotator. So that’s the way I feel about John. He’s really good. Great body and he’s going to be a good run stopper and he has to be. I I think he’s good and we’ve seen reps from him so we know he’s pretty darn good. He’s got to take another step and he’s got to be great because I do think he’s gonna carry a pretty heavy load this year. He’ll be John Nelson. He needs to be John Nelson. Yeah. And if he can fill those big shoes, then you’re in pretty good shape. Keano Tanavasa needs to be Blake Mangles. Blake Manglesson. Yep. Tomio needs to be big John Nelson. And yeah, you just can’t replace a Tyler Baddy. Yeah, I I I can’t expect Logan Latoule to be that guy. I can’t expect Mila Kafussi to be that guy. I can’t expect Viam Puha to be that guy. I just can’t. Tyler Batty is guy. You just can’t replace him. But I do think I can replace some of the production of Manglesen. But Tomu, he needs to be John Nelson. All right, time for your good, the bad, the ugly right here on 975 the KSL Sports Zone. It’s time to saddle up and talk about the winners and the losers. This is the good, the bad, and the ugly. Now, here’s the good. It is your good, it is your bad, it is your ugly right here on 975 the KSL Sports Zone. All right. Um, I brought I put this up here just and by the way, good, the bad, the ugly, brought to you by where we’re at right now, RGS Exteriors and Construction, obsessed with quality results. Call Tim and the crew, ready to help you out with whatever you need. 8012803110. So, everybody just assumes that Arch Manning may very well win the Heisman this year and feels like uh that they he will be the first selection in the upcoming NFL draft. Um, well, Archie Manning, his grandfather and namesake, is throwing some uh cold water on that. Now, I’m going to ask you, cuz I’ve got an opinion on this. Is grandpa playing some some games here? Yes. Yeah. It’s the whole Manning family is. He is. Uh, he said uh that those teams that may be wanting to tank for his grandson shouldn’t get their hopes up. Said Arch isn’t going to do that. He will be at Texas next year playing in his senior year of football. Yeah, the the Mannings are all playing McCoy. They’re all slow playing it, keep keeping under the wraps. That’s why he’s never transferred out. That’s why he’s never bickered about being number two behind yours. That’s why every time he takes the field, you’re like, “Holy cow, that guy is crazy.” But then he’s all of a sudden he’s gone. Nobody really talks about him. You’re not seeing him on every commercial. That guy could be on every commercial. Oh yeah. He could have his voice louder than anybody else in the country. He could be on the top of everybody’s board for Heisman upandcomer. Everybody slow played it. Everybody’s playing koi. They’ve told Payton, they’ve told Eli, they told Arch the grandpa, “Just shut your mouth. We want him to run under the radar, mature, and then be that wow that he where did he come from in an NFL camp?” And that takes a lot of work to keep a Manning under wraps. Well, and also a lot of money. And that’s because Arch is probably your highest paid from an NIL standpoint player in college football this year. And so he doesn’t need to leave if he doesn’t want to. And remember, this is the same family that saw Eli get drafted by the Chargers and forced to trade to get him to New York. Like, you don’t really have that kind of leverage if you’re not the Manning family. And they do. And so I think that if there’s a situation where the Browns have the number one overall pick, they’re going to be like, “No, don’t like that. Don’t like that situation at all. Uh you’re going back to Texas for another year.” And he’s got the financial wherewithal to be able to be like, “Yeah, I’ll go back to Texas. I don’t need to go to the NFL this year. I’m making a lot of money. I’ve got the family support. I can stay put for another year and be very happy at Texas.” Crazy and not go to the NFL. It’s crazy. Yeah. the one person that could pretty much do that and be just fine. I think he’s going to blow up. I do too. So, he only had three games last year of 10 attempts or more. There was only three games that he played in of 10 attempts or more. There’s only two games of double-digit completions that he played in. And that was against uh Louisiana Monroe and Mississippi State. two games with double-digit completions and he still went for a thousand yards. He still threw for nine touchdowns. Yeah. Every time he touched the field and and remember he’s just backing up Quinn Eers and Uers went down. I think it was against Louisiana Monroe, right? And then and then Manning got the start against Mississippi State and then Uers came back and Hers came back. Yep. So in those moments if he wasn’t throwing for a touchdown, he was running for a touchdown. hit four rushing touchdowns in the short amount of time that he got to play. He’s more and and I know I look we’re way too young. There’s a lot of people that are way too young to remember Archie Manning, the quarterback. Archie was a scrambler. Archie was a runner. Now we know Payton and Eli for having center blocks for feet and not being able to run at all. This kid is more like his grandpa. This dude can get out and run. Well, he can get out and run, but he but he’s also big. You know, he’s 6’5, 220, 230 lbs. Well, Arch wasn’t 6’5, was he? Uh, grandpa. Grandpa was 6 foot, 6’1. Oh, I think he was 6’2, 63. Oh, was he in there? Okay. I thought he was kind of a a shorter, stockier guy, but Arch is long and runs like a gazelle. Yeah. So, I think he’s going to blow up. I do, too. And I think that he has run very much under the radar. And I think he’s going to be one of the best things that college football has this year. And I mean I how they’ve played this and kept him so low profile and kept his mouth shut. There’s a bit of this that I almost feel like he’s getting old school advice in a new school world. Yeah. No social media. The kid is the kid got a Twitter account to announce that he was going to Texas and then I don’t think he’s posted ever since. Ever since. Yeah. So he’s getting old school advice in a new school world. I don’t know. I I’m trying to figure out is that the right way to go in modern day where we’ve got a kid that’s in eighth grade called Baby Grank that’s got 1.4 million followers and the kid is probably making 650,000 a year just on his stupid social media posts. Did you limit him or did you save and protect him so that he can just have an NFL career? Because that’s really what eventually that’s what you’re judged off of. And it’s like, okay, are we going to have four Mannings that are Hall of Fames? Is that is that what we’re going to end up with? And is that what you’re working for? Like you’re telling him the whole time like, keep your mouth shut. Stay off social media. Don’t worry about the dollars now. Don’t worry about the starts now. Get in a good program. I’m good in a good quarterback situation. Play behind yours. Keep your mouth shut. Watch him observe. Listen to Sarkeesian. Take advice from him as a quarterback coach. And then we get you into the Hall of Fame. And that’s where it’s important. I don’t know. Like I it appears that’s the case. Uh and and frankly, if you and I had uh kids that were playing at that level with that level of notoriety, I would want to do the same. I don’t know if I could do the same because you don’t you know you want these kids to make their money as soon as they possibly can. Yeah. Because you never know when it’s going to go away. But if if I’m filthy rich already and his dad even though his dad didn’t end up playing uh but he’s worked for u I I think uh some financial like the dad’s as financially sound as anybody in the family. So the kid doesn’t need the money. So, if I had a chance to allow a superstar kid of that magnitude grow up the right way, that’s the way I would do it. I would love to do it. It’s tough because, you know, my son really wants to be a third generation NFL guy. He really wants it. He wants to be the third generation. He wants to renew his name in renew the Olsen name in in Logan. He wants to. And it’s like making that decision of where to go to college and how to help manage him in college to get to where he wants to get. He wants to get to the NFL. He wants to cement that that legacy. And it’s like, geez, man, you’re biting off the biggest chunk of apple. And and talking to him and how to manage that was really difficult. And if he does what if he does what I advise him and Uncle Phil advises him and I wish Merlin was around to to advise him. He could get there. He’s got the body to do it. Yeah. And that’s what it came down to. It was like, “All right, so who can manage you?” Well, Bronco Menol can manage you. Bronco can do that. Yep. And okay, where can you sign now and not move and still have that chance? Because I look at him the same way. I’m like, I want you to be at a school that you can be under the radar. You can play low-key. Everybody will know who you are. you’ll be able to make some NIL, but two years in the system before you finally get that start. It’s it’s Utah State. He can play his entire career at Utah State, get everything he needs from Bronco Men and all and be an NFL guy and that and so the advice I give him is kind of along the lines of of what I’m sure Arch and Payton and Eli are giving Arch Manning. Just keep your mouth shut. Go to a place where it can develop you because college is one thing, but you want to get to the NFL. And I think that Arches managed it really well. Hans and Scotty 975, the KSL Sports Zone 155. Coming up next, another edition of Whole World News right here on the zone. We’ve got the whole world in our hands. We got the whole world in our hands. We got the whole world in our hands. We got the whole world in our hands. We got the whole world in our hands. You got you and me, brother, in our hands. You got you and me, sister, in our hands. You got you and me, brother, in our hands. We got the whole world in our hands. We got little baby in our hands. We got a little baby in our hands. We got a little Scotty 975 DKSL Sports Zone. So when I say autobon in west ger west west of Berlin it’s in Germany when I when I just say oh the you know the autobon what do you first think of speed okay because there’s no speed limit correct okay so what I learned in today’s story is the autobond has sections of no speed limit but then there are sections of a speed limit so they go by kilometers per hour there’s a section of the autobond that’s at 120 kph which is 74.5 miles per hour just to kind of put it in terms so people can picture what this is. So 120 kph which is 7 74.5 miles per hour. So you can go whatever speed you want on certain parts of the autobond but then you get to these parts that have speed limits. They also have these you know those speed indicators. They have those speed indicators. Well, a cop just happened to be sitting by one of the speed indicators as a guy was coming off the no limit into the limit and he was doing 320 kph which is 199 miles per hour in a McLaren. Do you know what a McLaren I McLaren’s a Yeah, that’s that’s high car. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. He was doing 199 miles per hour and uh which is 124 miles per hour above the speed limit in this part of the autobond. You do that in the United States, you’re getting impounded. So, he’s uh he cannot drive for 3 months. He got hit with a $1,200 fine. He got stripped of two points from his driver’s license. I don’t know what that means. and he was taken into custody. But well, I don’t know if that’s fair. I mean, I guess you hopefully there’s enough like, hey, you need to wind it down there, big fella, cuz you know, if there’s if it’s go time and you can go as fast as you want and then all of a sudden, boom, you have to throttle that thing down to 75 miles an hour. That’s tough to do. What’s the fastest you’ve been up in a car? Could you imagine 199? I think I’ve been to 110. Okay. I think 105 probably. And even then it felt like the car I was driving was going to shake and fall apart. It’s gonna blow up because we dealt with these because the only place you can do that on these old back roads in Idaho. Yeah. And you’re driving a vehicle that probably deserves to be on one of those old back roads and then you’re like it feels like you’re you you feel your internal organs starting to liquefy because they’re shaking so much. Yeah. And you’re horrified. Yeah. I don’t think I’ve gone I don’t think I’ve gone over 100 since I turned 17. Like you go 100 when you’re stupid and you first get in a car. Exactly. And you think mom and dad don’t know and they know and you know you get up to 100 105 anything and you’re just things aren’t zooming by. Think of 199 miles per hour. How can you even But in a McLaren you could probably get there pretty pretty easy. It’s pretty smooth too. I would imagine right here on the zone.
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