Miami Heat Being Reportedly Being Monitored By Teams On How They Handle Tyler Herro Extension

Miami Heat Being Reportedly Being Monitored By Teams On How They Handle Tyler Herro Extension

What’s going on guys? Toby here with you and thanks for checking out the channel. If you guys could subscribe, that’d be great. I’d appreciate that. Hit that like button, write comments, you know, the whole thing that baits the engagement that makes uh the world go around. That would be great. Um, say whatever you need to say and uh maybe I’ll get to some of your comments. You know, maybe uh maybe uh maybe just maybe I will. Uh we got to do a live soon, too. That’s that’s got to be a thing. I want to do uh get the live chat going. I know I always promise that and I never deliver, but I’m gonna deliver on that. The Miami Heat in the news stream as uh you know there was a scoops column written by Brett Seagull of Clutch Points and he was writing this thing on Jonathan Kaminga’s standoff with the Warriors which you remember at a point Jonathan Kaminga was like the thing everybody was pointing to with the Heat and being like that’s their move, the Heat. Jonathan Kaminga. take a little look. That’s where it’s going to be. And nothing came to fruition of that. And I think everybody was pretty confused by it on the Heat side, being like, why? What? Jonathan Kaminga, like why do you think we’re going to pay Jonathan Kaminga 2530 million a year like he wants? Like that it just didn’t add up at all. Unless the Heat really thought that Jonathan Kaminga was, you know, this allar in the making. I just I I I don’t know. I found that all strange. And I’ve I found it to be very strange, especially knowing that the Heat wanted to keep some level of flexibility though, knowing that this 2026 thing was a bit of a a ruer for us, unless there’s another certain guy that they had their eye on, which we can get to in a second. But it just made no sense. And I think that you could basically see, hey, Jonathan Gaminga probably looked at the Heat situations like, they got Bam, they got Tyler, they need a third dude. I’ll be that dude. I’ll be I’ll be your third dude. Like, let me let me go cook. And maybe if Andrew Wiggins isn’t there, like that’s the perfect spot for me. I can be there, Jimmy Butler. That’s probably what he was thinking. And I don’t know, maybe Jonathan Kamingo will be a multiple time all-star one day and we’ll all look a fool that the Heat didn’t go and pursue Jonathan Kaminga. I have no ill will towards Jonathan Kaminga. Don’t really, you know, have much knowledge of Jonathan Kaminga outside of the the playoff games that I’ve watched of him and some highlights when he were interested in him. But uh I it definitely seemed like that was drummed up like Jonathan Kaminga. It seemed quite obvious that that dude really wanted to be on the Miami Heat. He’s working out in Miami. Every rumor that was coming out was Miami some Chicago. And then it just didn’t match up with where the Heat were at. You know, the Heat didn’t seem like they were in the Jonathan Kaminga market at all. Uh and then, you know, once the, you know, the beat guys kind of got on, they’re like, “Yeah, we don’t know where this is really coming from. don’t seem to make a whole lot of sense. Um, yeah, that’s kind of gone by the wayside and he remains in this standoff with the Warriors. But I’m not here to talk about Jonathan Kaminga. Here to talk about Tyler Hero because Brett at the end of his column has a blurb that says Tyler Herro becomes eligible for a three-year extension worth near $150 million with the Miami Heat in October before the start of the 2526 season. This is a situation teams are keeping an eye on as Pat Riley has always been cautious with giving out extensions. See Jimmy Butler’s situation for details. A decision to extend or not extend Hero will tell the tale of how the Heat view themselves in the East. Um, I don’t know why teams would be monitoring what the Heat are going to do with Tyler Hero’s extension because I think the Heat have been pretty transparent. It doesn’t seem like the Heat are going to unless Tyler Herro is going to give them, you know, uh, wild discount like he’s going to sign for like 30 a year over three or something like crazy. I don’t think the Heat are going to be rushing to sign Tyler Herro. I think everything was pretty transparent in the forefront of the exit interviews. And if you if you guys don’t recall, this is how when Tyler was asked about it, uh this is what he had to say on it. You’ve been a good sport and handled like a pro, everything. You’ve dealt with the trade rumors for the two summers, starting coming off the bench, starting on the contract extension, which obviously there’s that October 1st to 22nd window. Does it matter to you either way? You’re under deal under contract two more years anyway. Is that a big deal to you whether you get it in October? Um, big deal. Not the biggest deal, but I mean I would love to be here. Um, the the front office, the organization, I think the city, everyone knows how much I love Miami. I’ve been here since I was 18, 19. I got two kids here. Um, so this is this is really home for me, you know, and uh I love being here. Basketball is why I’m here at the end of the day. and I want to I want to win and I know how badly this organization and the city wants to win. So, I would love to be here. Um, but we’ll see. We’ll see what happens. If it doesn’t get done, if it doesn’t get done in October, I think we can get it done next summer. Just be a little bit higher of a price. So, we’ll see. Two things. One, nobody sets up a question like Barry Jackson. Man’s a pros pro. Second of all, uh, as I said this at the time, but just to revisit it for those who didn’t see that, uh, I had zero issue with Tyler Hero’s answer, I actually kind of I sneakily loved it because I think it shows great confidence, which Boy Wonder has always had. Um, and I do think it kind of kills the drama of it, which is like, listen, if they don’t pay me now, they can pay me later. um he is under contract for this year and the next year. So it’s not like there is this tremendous rush to get his 50 guarantee then or to get the you know the to to to roll it out for another four after that if they do something like that or they could do a three the next year too. I don’t think the Heat are going to be in a rush to sign Tyler Herro. I think that Tyler Herro probably knows this is a big year for him to prove some things. Um, now to Brett’s point about teams uh are watching because Pat Riley’s always been cautious giving out extensions. First of all, he’s been very cautious about giving out extensions to aging players. That’s the category where he’s cautious. Dwayne Wade, Jimmy Butler, Alonzo Morning, Tim Hardaway. Uh, those are the guys that he gets squeamish with. you know, the young guys giving out multi-year deals. Back then, it wasn’t really extension. It could just be contracts, but a son, Deion Waiters, James Johnson, uh, guys who are not exactly past their athletic prime. Bet Riley can get a little bit frisky with giving out the extensions. Um, I don’t necessarily think that that’s going to be a tell. Now, maybe they’re in a different place because you have to be more cautious in this day and age. That could be a fair way the red thing is running up, but I don’t think the Jimmy Tyler thing could really be compared other than durability, which I guess is the one the one other qu the one question Tyler’s really got to answer this year. Well, he’s got two, but the one regular season we know the playoff question that that’s kind of goes without saying, so let me not say one. The two things that he has to answer, one he can’t do to the playoffs. The second that he has to answer is durability again because you can okay you you had a year where you were durable. Can you do it again? Can you make yourself available? Now I think that he can because he hasn’t had many soft tissue injuries in his career. He’s had a couple of those flare up in the playoffs. A lot of the times his long-term injuries have been kind of fluky like step on an ankle nasty sprain and then he’s out. Dive for a loose ball, break his hand. like those have been some of his longer term ones and it just kind of reflected negatively on him because people looked at an addition by subtractor because the heat he broke his hand they got maybe more defensive oriented they make a finals run without him. Um you know uh and and you know the the team you could have looked like the year where he snapped his ankle. Terry Jimmy kind of get on the same page. starting to look like themselves, you know, and then t T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T T Tyler comes back, you know, people like to make those equations. Are they fair? Not really. Not really. But they it is what it is. Like that goes with the territory and you’re under that scrutiny when you’re one of the highest paid players on the team. Um, but I don’t think the Heat not extending Tyler Hero is going to be looked upon as how they see themselves in the East. I think that think that he rightfully so want to see from Tyler Herro and see where their team is at. And by the way, I do think Bam would have been in this case if you know if he didn’t get his extension when he did. I do think that the Heat would have looked at Bam in that case too. Now Bam shown himself to go deep in the playoffs and be an effective guy who can be played off the floor. Does he have his warts? Did he have his worst offensive season? Certainly. Especially in the first half of the season that was not nearly his standard or good enough. and he carries a lot of water in this too, but he’s not a fur contract. He’s extended. So, seems like a moot point. What are we arguing about it for? We’ll talk about that and his accolades and all that when that comes into fruition in the season. This is simply about paying Tyler Hero. And right now, the Heat Tyler’s in the spot where he wants to get paid like a max guy. Um, based on somehow the other guys paid, he’s going to get paid a lot of money. I would think based on his accolades, his statistics, and where he’s going to be in the hierarchy of this team. find it hard to believe that he’s not going to make a lot of money. But, uh, I do think the Heat their spot in looking at this is really like, all right, you have to be careful with the guys that you build and pay all the money to. Um, you maybe can pay two to get your third. Who’s that going to be? So, but I don’t necessarily think it tells the tale on how the Heat see themselves in the East. I think it’s really I think Pat Riley kind of answered this already. Pat Riley came out and he said that I thought Tyler Herro answered it. He also said in May that he spoke with Tyler Herro about his extension and that he’s cool. I think he answered that question perfectly last year. I mean last week. I think you asked him that question. I think he answered it perfectly. He’s okay. It’s like the Midas Muffus commercial. Pay me now or pay me later, right? I mean, whatever it is. But, you know, you understand what I’m talking about, you know. Yeah. And so, we’ve already talked about it. Uh, and, uh, I’ve talked about with Tyler and so, you know, we’ll see what happens as we as we plan. You know, the numbers are getting pretty big for a lot of guys, you know, and and, you know, max salaries in this league. U, you know, who do they go to? I mean, who do they go to? And who is really, if you’re going to make $70 million a year, who are those five guys that or 10 that deserve that? But but definitely Tyler is deserving of uh of that of the thought of uh of an extension. But are we going to do it? We haven’t committed to it, but we’re we’re going to discuss it. And I’ve already talked to him about it. He’s cool. I think like if you’re all a part like is it is that not as honest as you could be about it like we’ll think about it. Do we feel a pressure to do it? We’ve talked to him about it. Doesn’t seem like the Heat feel like a great deal of pressure. Um I do also think that maybe some people took this as and I know I’m reading a lot into a Brett Seagull blurb, but you know, August 6th. Um, I do think some people took this as, well, some people are ready to pounce on Tyler Herro and if he’s going to make us one, I don’t think Tyler Hero is going to make a stink if he doesn’t get an extension. I think he made that clear in his own words, unless he was lying. Uh, and I don’t necessarily think the Heat are going to be eager to trade him either, unless they get some kind of crazy offer for him. And I don’t know what one gets offered for Tyler Herro. I don’t I don’t know what the market is for him. That uh that shooting scoring guard who’s maybe not the best playmaker but becoming a good playmaker still young certainly. Like I definitely think like if people were looking for scoring punch on their team that could Tyler Hill provide that? Yeah, definitely dude. I mean and also you’re talking about one of the best shooters on the planet. Um, you know, maybe could even lean into that even more if he if if if if he if he wanted to, but is somebody could give up two. Like somebody asked me the other day, my guy stunned Stephen, he was like, “Well, Bane got four first round picks. Could Tyler get not get two?” And I’m like, I suppose he could in the right circumstance, but you need to get that team like a Orlando that looks at Tyler Hero as the last piece. Cuz the thing with Desmond Bane is they’re looking at it as, well, we’re not going to get a Desmond Bane quality player in free agency. We got to make a big push for him. It’s kind of like what the Wolves did with Rudy Gobear where they’re like, well, we already have our draft picks. We had Cat. We had Ant. Let’s overpay. and then we get this guy and then we’re going to do important things. So, you would need somebody to look at Tyler in that regard. Um, could he get you to? I’m not saying that he couldn’t, especially like the quality of team like that looks and is like, well, we could maybe use this here or there. Um, but I don’t I don’t necessarily know that there’s going to be a people lining up to to throw three first round picks at Tyler Hero uh to the Heat. Um, and I don’t and I don’t necessarily think if the Heat trade Tyler Hero or if they don’t want to give him an extension. I don’t necessarily think that’s the Heat looking at it like, “Oh, no. We’re we’re out, dude. We’re going to start rebuilding.” I I think that would probably just be like with everybody’s fair questions about him is like I don’t know if he could be one of the main pieces to win at that salary. That’s what it would say, you know? And I think that those are all questions that are going to be given to Tyler to have the chance to answer. And we’ll see. And I think that that was what both of them kind of came at it with. It’s like, would Tyler Hero like to stay in Miami his entire career and keep getting maxed out? Duh. Of course he would. Would the Miami Heat love it if it if it wasn’t punitive? Would the Miami Heat pay Tyler Herro through the nose? Yeah. But this is a league where Pat Riley says like you gotta determine who those guys are and you know and they got to determine that with Bam too. If if Bam has another year shortcomings of you know not being able to produce offensively uh at the rate that he should and they think it’s a a Kelwar type of team or a Nico type of team and they think they could sell on Bayio then maybe they will. I think both of those guys are going to have a lot of questions. Even with Bam having the the coronation of of next Heat culture guy, I think it’s fair for both of those guys to deal with those organiz uh organizational questions with where they’ve been because where they where they’ve been is not the standard. Um but for right now, I do think that the Heat are hoping that they are parts of the solution and that they’ve buoyed them with a better support system and Norman Powell and and Andrew Wiggins who’s more comfortable and DaVon Mitchell being here for the full year. Bam seems super fired up to keep DaVon Mitchell. Kind of diverting into other topics here, but um you know, perhaps I read way too much into this, which again, August August 6th, but um I don’t think the Heater are looking at the Tyler Hero extension like the Jimmy extension because the only thing I could see being the argument is the the Jimmy extension. The big question was how is he going to age in availability? Tyler Herro is going to be 26 this year. injuries in the prime of his career. I don’t think that’s a question. Is there durability questions? Yeah, I suppose that could still be a question, Burke. You know, do it again. Don’t be don’t don’t have another injury. But I think they’ve been kind of fluky. So, I don’t think that’s a big concern of the Heats. I think it’s I think it’s the other stuff. I think it’s the big I think it’s the big things is like is he a is he an allstar and that’s cool or is he going to be a superstar or is he going to be a starst star or a max star? You know, we got to find new dialogues and rankings for these systems. You know, it’s like uh you know, it’s a what is it? It’s like I was watching the reboot of Hank Hill of of King of the Hill. You guys remember that? Or they’ve done like a reboot and they put episodes up and uh he had taken an Uber for the first time. He’s never been in an Uber and uh he’s like, “Hey, uh could you give me five stars?” The Uber driver. He goes, “I’m going to give you four. That way it gives you something to shoot for.” And I was just like, and that that’s kind of what it has to is like, “Hey, you can’t just make every organization these days is making their their highest scoring guy a five-star Uber driver and they have nothing to shoot for, you know, like everybody just kind of gets paid through the nose and you’re seeing that teams have to kind of move and get a wrangle on these things otherwise you’re going to end up moving that guy in a couple of years.” So, I think right now it’s not a question of where the Heat see themselves in the East. I think it’s a question of how much do they think the duo of Bam Adabio and Tyler Herro can take them in the East. Um, and with Bam being the guy who signed and Tyler not, I think it just weighs more on the equation of Tyler Hero because, you know, maybe they think like let’s not pay him. Maybe they feel like if we pay Tyler Hero or if we trade Tyler Herro and we pay Norman Powell 30 a year or or 25 a year and we’re getting just as much production even if he’s not as young, but we can make that next move and have more flexibility. Maybe that’s what they’re going to be looking at this year. I don’t know. There’s a lot of stuff that’s on the table for this franchise right

Tobin reacts to a rumor that other NBA teams are monitoring how the Heat handle Tyler Herro’s extension in the fall. Haven’t the parties already revealed where they stand? Do teams want to pounce on a disgruntled Herro?
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