Nets Cam Thomas signing the qualifying offer could spell the end of his NBA career

Nets Cam Thomas signing the qualifying offer could spell the end of his NBA career

What is going on everyone? Welcome back to another edition of BKNY Hoops. If you are new to the channel, I am your host as always, Rashid White. All right, let’s get into it. Let’s not waste any time because I don’t have a lot of time right now. Um, oh boy, Cam Thomas is absolutely completely delusional. Right. So, it’s uh rumored out there that he is going to sign the qualifying offer being that there’s no other teams in the NBA that’s really looking to trade for him. No other teams with cap space, no other general managers that actually really truly value him as a uh like a a a role like a a main piece a main like a player that you can actually really truly win with. So, um, and like is this the end of, uh, Nets Cam Thomas, you know, NBA career? Pretty much now we’ve seen, you know, guys like Marshon Brooks in the past. I mean, we’ve seen a whole bunch of guys, right? Uh, that doesn’t really make it to their second NBA contracts. Keilly and Hayes, I mean, there’s a whole plethora of players out there. Um, so is Cam Thomas actually really one of those players? And there’s a mid probability that, you know, that he could be one of those because right now he doesn’t really view himself as like a role player. He sees himself as one of the top guys in the NBA and that’s far from the truth right there. Let’s actually get into this article because yo, King Riby, what’s good, man? He’s saying that he’s better than Jaylen Green. He’s saying that he’s better than um uh uh what’s his name? Jaylen Green. Who’s the other guy, man? Tyler Hiro, right? So, let’s get into this article over here. This is the one right here. Let me see if it’s showing up on the screen. Here we go. Right here. Cam Tylers reportedly thinks he’s better than Jaylen Green, uh, Tyler Herro, and these guys make 40 million and makes a $40 million track, man. Oh my gosh, man. So, now instead of 30 something million, he wants 40 million a season, man. So, it’s actually really really insane right there, man. So, um it says over here, “Two future stars in the NBA have headline the restricted free agent markets this off seasonason. Cam Thomas and Jonathan Kaminga, who have been gridlocked, uh with their respective teams over contract extensions.” So, Kaminga reportedly made his demand clears. You know what? Let’s get into the actual meat of the article over here, man. Let’s not get we’ll get away from all the fluff. It says, “One league source told Nets Daily where Thomas sees his market using comparable players around the league. Jaylen Green making 33.3 million per year.” Um, and Emanuel Quickley making 36 million. Um, Emanuel Quick. Yeah. So then then you’re looking at Tyler Herro who’s averaging over $32 million over the next two years. And Cam Thomas sees himself better than all three of those players, meaning that he really kind of wants more. So, this suggests Thomas is searching for an annual starting salary at $30 million, right? So, likely closer to 40 million. And says according to uh NBA insider Jake El Fischer, Thomas is one of the most likely candidates candidates to take the qualifying offer of 6 million for the next season as he prefers to becoming an unrestricted free agent in uh you know this well I guess next year. Um, um, yeah, take. So, um, all right. So, let’s get into Hold on. Let me see. Where was this over here? There was actually Hold on. Mess this thing up here. All right. So, yeah, we analyzing Thomas comparison to to Hero Green and Quickly. So, Thomas averaged 24 points, 3.8 8 assists, 3.5 3.3 rebounds in 2024 20 25 while shooting 43.8% from the field. So that’s bad. 34% from the uh well I say 35. Let’s round it off. From beyond the three-point arc in in the com in comparison, Tyler Her averaged 23.9 5.5 assists, 5.2 rebounds while while shooting 47.2% 2% from the field, 37% from the from the from from the three-point line, you know, and actually and he played and that’s this is here’s the key thing right here. He actually played in more games, right? Cam Thomas may be better than these guys, right? But we just don’t know yet. That and this is that’s the key. That’s that’s the big question mark. We haven’t seen a large sample size of Cam Thomas and and to show that he can really truly impact uh some some sort of winning, right? You gonna look at um uh Tyler, not Tyler, but let’s say Jaylen Green, right? Jaylen Green went to the playoffs, right? He was probably one of the best players, second best players um on that Houston Rockets team, right? He’s, you know, one of the only guys on that team can actually shoot the three ball. you know, him and um Fred Van Fleet pretty much. The rest was like h you know, but it says um Jaylen Green averaged 21 points per game, 4.6 rebounds, 3.4 assists in 2024, 2024, 2025. And here’s the key thing, he did not miss a single game last season. He shot 42.3% from the field, 35.4% from beyond the arc. in the same season quickly average 17.1 5.8 I mean, yeah, like I said, for the most part over here, you you know, um, you know, you just seen larger sample size of these players, right? They went to the playoffs, especially like Tyler Herro, he went into like deep playoff runs, uh, where Cam Thomas was like just really, uh, you know, being put on the bench right there, man. So, and Cam Thomas is really just uh um he he he basically was put in the same situation like Jonathan Kaminga. He got drafted to a team that was looking to win championships and they just didn’t value young guys, you know. So, um and okay, so let me let me finish this up over here. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got Jonathan up in here. All right, Beaky says if Cam Thomas wants a $40 million sign and trade, he takes the qualifier and offer and he could walk for nothing. They listen man, if no other teams really value him, let him walk, man. If he doesn’t really contribute to winning, right? Um, then what’s the whole point of really having him on a team? Why pay him 30 $40 million a year when and we’re going to get into like Trey Young in the in the next in this week too because there’s a story out there saying that the Nets have the best chances of really landing Trey Young in terms of the odds, right? We’re going to we’re going to dive into that. I mean again like the the Hawks don’t want to pay him 200 something million dollars because again you’re going to pay him $200 million and only win like 35 games, right? So, they’re kind of hesitant on really signing uh Trey Young, like giving him a contract extension. So, again, you got to show that you can really contribute to winning. And if Cam Thomas really can’t do that, then why sign him, right? We’re supposed to be like, you know, this is isn’t like um what’s the metaphoric analogy I can use? It’ll come to mind. All right. So, it says um uh right over here, man. And since the Nets recently acquired a high volume shooter uh who has been more efficient and consistent of that in Michael Porter Jr. is unlikely unlikely the Nets will extend Cam Thomas on a long-term contract since he has an injuryprone history and inefficient tendencies. If Cam Thomas fights for his place on the Nets roster and shows him that he can become more efficient over the next season, then the next the Nets might reconsider their stand on the contract valuation. But presently, it seems like he will wait it out one season to head into unrestricted free agency next summer. So basically, I mean, the Nets can really pay him anything if another team really um goes out there and puts $100 million on um Cam Thomas. I just don’t really see that happening right now. Um, you have better players supposedly coming out in the next year’s draft. You know, AJ Deonster, you have um Darren Peterson. I mean, there’s a bunch of guys out there, man, that’s going to really be going to like a lot of bad teams, right? So, the Wizards, the Nets, um, uh, the Charlotte Hornets, right? I mean, all those teams are going to be really in play, you know, for the next year. So, what’s the whole point of even signing Cam Thomas then, right? If you’re gonna really build around, you know, the like there’s like five or six good players in next year’s draft, right? And more more than likely those guys are going to be going to bad teams. OKC. Maybe OKC. But if I’m if I’m if I’m okay if I’m like like AJ De Bronzer and I I’m going to like or or let’s say Cameron Boozer, I’m pulling like uh um Ace Bailey, you know, but pretty for the most part, you know, the teams that Cam Thomas could go to next year, right? The draft is next season and they they those teams are going to be prioritizing on those kind of players. You’re not going to prioritize Cam Thomas over a Cambooza or AJ Deansa or Darren Peterson. Now, I’m going to look at some other players, right, in the future and see who’s actually really coming out, right? Um, we’re going to look at that. But like Cam Thomas is in a world of hurt and and uh I don’t know, man. Maybe does he if no other teams really value him or general managers really value him? I mean, what’s his future in the NBA really looks like, man? I mean, could he be like a Killian Hayes or like a Marshon Brooks? Because like um if I mean, I’m thinking I’m trying to think of a team at least one team that that Cam Thomas can go to and command $30 million and say, “Hey, you’re the number one option on the actual team. We’re gonna run our offense through you. You’re gonna we got to c I think Cam Thomas is really playing out of position.” Um, he’s undersized at the at at at the two guard position, so he’s just onedimensional pretty much. Um, whoever taught him how to play basketball really kind of like taught him wrong, man. And and just set him up for complete and utter failure. And you’ll see it over here. It says Cam Thomas closely accepted a $6 million qualifying offer from the Brooklyn Nets. Um, and that’s the thing, man. In order to be really like the best player, he has to go out there and he you talk about Jaylen Green. Jaylen Green plays defense, right? He can actually uh uh play passing lanes, get steals. He puts pressure on the rim with his speed, his athleticism. Um, now I know he got traded from Houston, but when you look at the roster that Houston actually really had, um, nobody can actually shoot, right? And it’s hard to, you know, get downhill when you have pretty much a wall and like you uh um um Fred Van Fleet shooting 21% uh Shang Goon shooting 20 something%, you know, because Jaylen Green is really like the best three-point shooter on that team. um he can’t really play like he can’t really utilize his strengths because he has to provide spacing for the other guys that can’t shoot. So you can’t put the ball in Jaylen Green’s hands and say, “Hey, we need you to get downhill. Um and he’s not really that big. He’s only 186 pounds.” And then you got, you know, bigger like stronger, longer guys that can really kind of meet him at the rim. So um it kind of nudes his game. So maybe like Jaylen Green with KD, right? then you’ll see that you know you have spacing out there. But um no man to say this this is crazy man to say he’s actually better than Jaylen Green and uh Tyler Herro you know especially like Tyler Herro who has way better numbers than him. All right let me open up the actual phone lines over here. But um yeah, if I became Thomas, I would get back into the lab, right? And I would study like being a point guard, like look at how Jason Kid, how he affects the game. If I I don’t know if you guys remember, like Jason Kid could sometimes score eight points, right? and you would hear the the the uh the game analyst all the time like he can actually affect the game without actually scoring like 25 something points. So he needs to go out there and look to actually make you know make others better. Look at Austin Reeves even though I hate Austin Reeves but at least Austin Reeves actually playmates. Um and then the attitude from Gam Thomas, right? um going back and forth with Zack Low, you know, we seen him s his body language on the bench um when he didn’t wasn’t really getting the playing time like that. Um who knows what’s going on with Cam Thomas and his camp and who you know like there’s a bunch of yesmen around him. Um not really telling him the actual honest truth, man. All right. So, Jonathan, my friend, what’s going on? Papa, things things go well, man. Had a good discussion with ICE and some of the guys today on his stream about this Cam Thomas stuff, but the 40 million. Listen, I don’t think Cam and his agent are that reckless and that idiotic to ask that type of money. Nobody will ever give him that type of money. Not even Neuro League will give him that type of money. I think it’s really a tactic on if you guys don’t value me, then maybe he’s angling for a signing trade or something like that. But just the way it’s looking, a signing trade might be the best thing here because if Cam doesn’t like the offer that he currently has, which is 28 mil, 14 mil, I think he should take it, develop, and reevaluate next year. But if he doesn’t want that, that $6 million qualifying offer is the worst case scenario. He takes that veto any trade, walk for nothing like you you said, and you’re confident. But at the end of the day, if Cam does have a six-man value at worst, you don’t want to just let him go for nothing. So, if he’s dead set on taking that, try to do a signing trade with him before the season starts because clearly Cam Thomas feels slighted by the organization and doesn’t want to general manager like really values him or really kind of wants him on the team. Nobody there’s nothing there. So, I mean, what does it say? What does it say say about his NBA career, man? What do you think? it. I think he’s no worse than a six-man at this point or a third option on a team that invests him. I don’t see him as a secondary or primary just because he’s missing those certain qualities you need to be a superstar star player, which is athletic ability, height factor, and some type of defense. He doesn’t have those things. He has scoring abilities and he has some playmaking abilities, but he hasn’t been able to put all together due to injury, which is a huge reason why his market is really bad right now and due to the fact he’s never gotten proper investment or the development needed to reach any type of level like that. So, I think right now, like he he hurt, he had a a serious hamstring injury, right? We’ve seen this commitment to really Go ahead. We we’ve seen spurts of it and spurts are not enough. You need to see a full sample size. So if I was Cam and his agent, take the offer this year, work on your game, develop with the young guys, see what you can build, re-evaluate the following year. If Cam wants to go elsewhere, here comes the question right here, right? Does Sean Marx like is he going to allow Cam Thomas to really develop his game or he’s going to or are they going to prioritize like Jgo Demond, um, Nolan, Troyier, right? Um, that’s the thing, man. I I don’t know. I mean, Cam Cam Thomas is it’s in a conundrum here, man. It’s a huge conundrum because there are things out of his control. He’s not physically going to grow up grow to be 67 ever. He’s not defensively going to be better than what he is right now. Offensively, I think he’s still going to excel at that. Playmaking is going at certain spurs, but he needs to be even more better. But right now, like you said, it seems that Shawn wants players that play positions basketball, can guard different positions, and play make play defense. man. But that JC, that’s why they actually value Austin Ree. Now, I think he’s a huge defensive liability. You know, he’s a cone, but he playmates. You know, that’s the thing. He playmates. He playmates. If you look at Austin Reeves, he actually playmates. He looks to get other guys involved. Um he’s But um Cam Thomas really his mindset is to go out there uh and put up numbers, man. Right. Yeah, that’s exactly. Yeah, DJ was saying the same thing. He playmates, right? And that’s the thing with the guys they drafted. They all do things Cam can’t do, which is playmate, play some type of defense. Drake Powell probably has most athletic ability out of the bunch. So, these guys have certain characteristics Cam doesn’t. And at the end of the day, Cam can try all he wants, but he’s a two guard. He’s not going to play the one because they got all these playmakers to do that versatility wise. So, there’s no need for him to to do that type of playmaking as a point guard. It’s a mindset, right? Being a point guard is a mindset. It’s not like it’s a skill set, but a lot of it is being it’s a mindset. He needs to switch his mindset. Get off of Stop being a Kobe Bryant uh ball sack licker, right? And and go out there and learn how to actually play the point guard position, right? And and it might not be with this team just because of the fact financially it’s not going to line with what he wants. And he’s not worth no 40 mil. I think he could be no worse than an 18 to20 million dollar contract player one day once everything once he reaches that type of level that he should be at maybe he’ll get that type of money but no 30 40 mil just because he’s not a first primary secondary guy he could be no worse than a third or sixman on a team that prioritize him the problem like you said is Shawn doesn’t want that he’s never valid Cam Thomas like that so if both sides are going to be like this leading up to training camp do a sign trade and let’s cut the cord now because clearly they’ll be they’ll hard they’ll be hard cap He listen, he wants the money. He wants the 30 million. And if they sign and trade him, I mean, teams are going to be really hard cap if they actually, you know, take on Thomas’ a crazy contract like that. So, so the odd so the odds of signing trade probably are not very high. So, it’s either take the the 28 mil or you take the $6 million qualifying offer. But if he takes that $6 million qualifying offer, it’s worst case scenario cuz all the powers Shawn and Joe have right now goes away because Cam could just be as bad to them as they are to him, veto any trade and just walk for nothing. But that’s just so bad because you have other alternative scenarios to consider if you are trying to get rid of Cam Thomas. That one letting him take that six-mon kind of takes all that power away and it just makes the situation more awkward and mess than it has to be. I feel bad for Cam that he hasn’t gotten a chance to truly elevate his game, but at the same time he hasn’t made those strides like he should have. Even if he even if he did like I mean you still going to pay him is he better than than Kate Cunningham or Shane Gillis Alexander or he’s nowhere like near those guys man he’s not on those levels because even playing like 35 minutes a game he’s just never ever going to get to that type he’s not you know he’s not that right and and and I even talked about some of the guys stats like Don Mitchell the guy’s averaged around four rebounds five assists stuff like that whereas with Cam Thomas he’s been around the He’s been around the one two threshold on assists and rebounds. Last year I think he was at a 3.1 or 3.8 in assists. Like that was his high point of his career, but it’s not at the level that you want to be as a primary guy. The problem is Cam’s never had players around him that could play at the level he can offensively and he’s kind of been a bullhog at certain instances because he didn’t trust the players around him. But it was up to him to make do with the players around him and he never showed that fully mostly due to injury and coaches not invested him. So, it’s really it’s a crappy situation all around, but at the end of the day, Cam is not getting that money. If he doesn’t take the the the the $28 million contract that’s in front of him and takes the $6 million offer, his future likely is not in Brooklyn. 28 million, Eskimo, I think the $28 million is actually off the table, man. Um, Eskimo, go ahead, man. So, like this this spell the end of Cam Thomas’s career as an NBA player because like next next year in the 2026 draft, right? I mean, all the bad teams are probably going to be getting uh AJ Deansa, Darren Peterson, uh Cameron Booza. I think his brother’s a point guard, too, I think. Um and they’re going to really be prioritizing those players in that 2026 draft. So, what what’s going to happen with Cam Thomas over here, man? Cam will still be in the league. Cam can score. He can score with the best. So don’t think that Cam would be out of the league because he can’t do other things as well as others. You know what I’m saying? That’s why it’s called a six-man. You know what I’m saying? That’s why he doesn’t want that, Esimo. He doesn’t want that. Hey, he wants money. He wants 30 million a year. He his confidence is is is skyhigh. He he doesn’t see himself as a sixman. There there’s ways to humble people who think they’re better than what you know what I’m saying what they are. You know what I’m saying? either you take this and you go around and you see that you get the same you get the same thing. So he going to end up he could end up in a situation if he plays this year for this team he can outplay the the the qualifying or the the 14 mil. That’s that’s his best bet. You know what I’m saying? Is to to outplay a contract, right? because the numbers that I did today versus those guys, he’s not scoring wise, percentage-wise, three-point shooting wise, he’s not far behind stars. And I and John pointed out when I did the research, his rebounding and his assist is lower than everybody else’s. And and that’s the difference. And I know those guys can run some point guard, they play combo guard, you know what I’m saying? They can play the two or they can play the one. And he stuck at two. So, I think between the rebounding and the assist and him not being able to be a combo guard is really dropping his stock and he’s just looking at scoring. He’s scoring like the best of them. He can score with a Donovan Mitchell. He, you know what I’m saying? His number says he can score like that. His percentage says, I don’t know, man. I I was watching I was watching a game um last season between Cleveland and um Boston and Donovan Mitchell single-handedly like just shredded the the Boston Celtics defense and this is when like Jaylen Brown was healthy, no injuries, Tatum and all these guys. I I don’t see Cam Thomas really doing that, man. I don’t think he’s really on that level. This is what I’m going to say, right? He’s behind those guys since he didn’t come in on a team where he could start right away. Cam is Cam is like two years behind basically. So if you if you looking at Cam right now and say he’s a sixman if you Wait wait wait wait wait wait. You saying if they gave him all the playing time in the world he can get on the level of a Kate Cunningham like had that kind of impact as as possible. I don’t know. I don’t know. I just did a I just did a um a live today with the numbers of all the numbers. It’s very It’s not about It’s not just about the numbers. It’s about the actual player itself. Okay. I got I got you right. So last year was his only full year of playing a um 30 minutes uh a game season. And and and and this year when he got hurt, he only played 25 games. in those in this last year and the year before his numbers line up with everybody else that’s getting paid. But that’s in the beginning of the season again. Like if you go out there and you run the New York City Marathon, um yeah, you can actually go out there and run extremely fast and you’re going to be ahead of the pack. But, you know, eventually like the more experienced runners are going to pass you. I mean, I’m trying to think of a metaphoric analogy. you know, like it’s a limited like sample size, man. It’s early in the season. You know, guys are are are like not going as hard, you know, especially the really really good teams because they understand it’s a marathon. You don’t want to like exhaust yourself out really quickly and you got to play 82 games plus the playoffs, which is another grind, which is a whole different season, right? So that’s why I’m saying you really don’t know because he hasn’t been given that chance to fully as everybody else ahead of him. That’s ahead of him. No, man. We can actually see it, man. No, no, no, no, no. Listen to me. Listen to me. Listen, Donovan, Tyler, Hiro, they came in for they they started right away. 31 minutes, 31, 36 minutes. They played they had the time to to adjust and do what they do. And and every year those guys assist has grown. Now, Cam, like I said, he only played 25 games, but his assist was three, like John was saying, 3.8 and his rebounds was like 3 point something. But at the fourth year, everybody’s assist was either at five or six and and rebounding was at four or five. So, when I tell you everything else, the scoring, the the uh percentage, field goal percentage, three-point percentage is online with everybody else’s, th those are the only spots. And like you said, like can he can he can he uh help with winning? Can can you know what I’m saying? What can he do on the floor for the rest of the team? We really don’t know cuz you think that you seen what you seen from Cam, but obviously when you look at stats and everything else, you can see that he hasn’t had the time, he hasn’t had the minutes and and and different teams that we had on the Nets that all play a factor into his his uh growth. So, I would give Cam two more years, bro, before you before you stamp him as whatever you stamp him as. I mean, sometimes you could just see, right? Like like you look at Nick Claxton, right? Do you want to give him two years to try to develop into like a a center? We we know right now he’s not a damn center. How do you feel about how they feel about Shay before he went to OKC? Did they rush his development and trade him or or or what? you let me know. I don’t I didn’t really watch him that much when he was actually when he was actually younger. Um but again, like Shay Shay is actually a point guard, not a two guard. And this is what I was saying. Um Cam Thomas needs to learn how to play a point guard. Shay’s 66. Cam Thomas is borderline 6’2, 61ish, right? 64. Nah, cuz like Drock Drock stood next to him, right? Drock said he’s 6 foot. He has a picture. He came on the show. He showed the picture. He’s saying that Cam Thomas is more like 6’1, 6’2. Nah, that’s not true. My son is 6 foot and he said him and Dennis Schroeder, he was at the game. Him and Dennis Schroeder is the same height and Cam is taller than Dennis Schroer. Yeah, but like I’m saying, it’s not by much though. It’s like probably like you’re talking about like Dennis Shruder is up to Cam Thomas’s chin, right? That means height uh height, length, uh uh uh like what you call explosiveness, right? Like like what’s it called? The uh uh verticality, him being able to like, you know, explode through contact. Like we know Cam can’t really do that. But you look at Donovan Mitchell, you know, Donovan Mitchell can actually JP, what’s good, man? Um Donovan Mitchell can dunk on centers, you know, he can explode through contact like really Cam can’t, you know, like he can’t do that. as a floater, right? If he’s if he’s under the rim, you know, um he you know, he’s the probability of him getting blocked is is is because again, he just doesn’t have that like um ability that that explosiveness. Yeah, I get it. But I’m saying when you look when you when the guys that he’s comparing to as when it comes to scoring field goal percentage, three-point percentage, he is lined up right along with those guys. is the other parts of his game that’s not there yet. So that’s why I say if you think if you think he’s not that guy now and you trade him or you sign and trade or whatever the case may be and he in those two years he start turning those wheels and you like oh he’s a he’s just he was only a two guard when he came here how is he that good on somebody else’s team is because you didn’t wait for his development. Cam doesn’t need a lot I know people think he needs a lot of development and they focus on the young guys. Cam doesn’t need a lot of development. Cam just needs to move the ball more than he does. He needs to take a little bit less shots and see if he can get his teammates involved and that would change his whole outlook of everything. You know what I’m saying? It’s not even about the defense. You know what I’m saying? Is rebounding, IQ, offense, and passing the ball. You know what I’m saying? That’s where those guys separate from Cam. I don’t know, man. Um, other GMs aren’t buying it. Are they would have traded for him? You know, there’s nobody out there looking to even trade for him, man. They think he’s a sixman. The league thinks he’s a sixman. Yeah. And like I said, next next next year he’s going to bet on himself, which is to me, I would have just took the two years, $28 million, but I think that offers off the table being that he’s really just going to sign a uh $6 million qualifying offer. And and we know with basketball, man, like anything could happen at any time. Like a freak injury. I mean, nobody foreseeing Kyrie Irving just blowing the ACL like that, man. And I never I never saw that coming, man. I’m like, whoa. And and that’s the thing, man. You have to be built a certain way. Uh like like Kyrie on every offensive possession, they rendered they, you know, they had he had to carry the team offensively and he had to go out there and play defense, man. They still expect you to go out there and guard, man. and you know, Kyrie’s body couldn’t hold up, you know, and we’ve seen it with a lot of players, man. So, um I think Cam Thomas potentially could be out of the league, man. Um I I I I’m just it’s sad to say that. It’s just the the uh the circumstances of him not just going to like a team that would like really take priority and really developing him. And we seen like development, right? You I mean Eskimo, you mentioned in development, you know, most of these teams around the league are horrible at development, man. Look at Claxton. Look at Don Sharp and and look at players on our team. I mean, you know, most of these guys, from what I see, you have to come into the league and and kind of be that guy already. I never seen a guy I I don’t know, man. I’m just thinking about Let me No, no, that’s not true. That’s not true. Sometimes it take it take players sometime to get where they where they need them. Sometimes it’s not on the first team. Sometimes it’s on the second team. You know what I mean? Yeah. But that’s the thing though. What’s the second team though? I can’t tell you. You know what I’m saying? But I guar I can guarantee somebody didn’t make an offer for him right now because of cap space and stuff like that. If one team had cap space, they would probably give him another low offer. They wouldn’t pay him nothing high because he is viewed as a sixman. EU himself is somebody else, a superstar or something. But he’s he’s right now the way where he’s at, he’s a six-man. And someone would take that scoring off the bench. Guaranteed. No, he’s a guaranteed bucket off the bench. Someone would take him. You can’t say like Cam is like my guy Tyrese Martin or or you know what I’m saying, one of those guys that might be out of the league. Cam is not like that. You know what I’m saying? He has a solidified. He has the hardest thing to do in the NBA down is scoring. The other hard thing to do in the NBA is play defense. He has the scoring down. He just got to get the rest of his game. You know what I mean? Right. I I agree with Ice. And at the end of the day, we still have time. BK media day ain’t till September 23. So hopefully cool heads prevail this month and he does accept that offer because at least if he has this year to prove it, work with the young guys, work on his playmaking, work on his weaknesses, get himself some all-star conversations just by playing well and being healthy and available and being consistent. If he could do that for a full season, it I guess this if he does it for a full season, he’s still not getting no 20 $30 million, but maybe could get somewhere around the 18 to 20 threshold just by showing improvements for a full year. You keep saying he has to show it. I agree with you. Me, Ice, and everybody that could see this from a non-biased level knows Cam has to prove he can be healthy and available for a long season to prove that he’s worth any type of big game money. So, if he can show that this year, I think he’s going to make a case for himself. But if he doesn’t want to take the offer, then you have to sign and trade him because you can’t let him take that $6 million qualifying offer and lose him for he has to agree to sign and like I said, his he’s not coming off the really the 30 million, right? If it was a signing trade and then teams just don’t want to pay that, man. Um again, like next year’s coming, right? Um AJ Debas is coming out. Uh Darren Peterson’s coming out. Uh Cameron Boo is coming out. you know, all those guys will be going to bad teams. So, like even if he goes to another team, if you have Cameron Boozer there, right, he’s the priority, not Cam Thomas. Not it’s not about the It’s not about the next year, right? It’s about the teams that’s building already. Cam is a solidified bucket, right? So, if you put him as a six-man, all you need Cam to do is come in and score. When you talk about Cam Boo or AJ, they they more for like the Nets, the Wizards, you know what I’m saying? Utah, them type of teams. They might end up on a good team, but you you don’t you don’t put Cam in that category for those guys. You put Cam in the category for like a team that’s mid, you know what I’m saying? Like playing to to to finals and see if, you know what I’m saying? Those teams will be more interested in him if he’s free agent. Uh I mean, you’re talking So now you’re talking about a different season. And you’re talking about in the playoffs where like teams will look at his weaknesses cuz he’s still not good going to his left hand and be able to finish, right? That’s one thing he needs to work on. Um they’ll target him defensively. You I I don’t know, man. It’s Bro, they target anybody on any team, bro. You thinking you thinking too deep in the game, bro. You got to think Well, I mean, that’s what OKC did that if you listen what OKC you can’t play defense. They didn’t want you on the team. That’s why Josh Giddy wasn’t on the team. N man, that’s not why Josh was on the off the team. Josh couldn’t hit no threes. He was wide open, bro. He couldn’t do nothing. They target Anthony Edwards in pick and roll. Um, who was the team? OKC did too. Target Anthony Edwards pick and roll. Got him in that. And uh I mean they put uh Shay in pick and roll and he couldn’t guard at times. You know what I mean? They put uh when they was uh picking rolling with uh with Rudy, they would put We can’t use Shay because Shay won a championship. No, I can use Shay because they did. They picked on Shay during that during that playoffs. They do that. I’m trying to tell you they do that to anybody that they find. Yeah, but they can hold their own situation with Yeah. Go ahead, DJ. Yeah, go ahead DJ. I mean, he’s wrong in a sense cuz them players can hold their own defensively. I’m not if he’s saying you pick on Cam during the playoffs. I’m telling you even the best guy will get put in pick and roll situations and have trouble with it. So it it really doesn’t matter. You know what I’m saying? The level of situ in the pick and roll. Who was who did Anthony Edwards have to guard? You said what? Who did they put Shay? They put Shay in pick and roll. And in Exactly. And And who is And All right, stay right there. And who is Minnesota’s Who is Minnesota’s best offensive player? Ant. Minnesota’s best offensive player is Ant Edwards. Exactly. So he has to do all he has to play offense and defense. None of them dudes on that team outside of probably Nas Reed plays offense like that, bro. Julius Randle hogs the ball for like 24 seconds on the shot clock and then scores. So yeah, when you play OKC that’s but no that’s making no that’s making his point because Anthony Edwards has to do a lot more on both. Yeah. you looking at you can’t compare the point is right if you going to play mouse in the house and and and and you have the top defender and the least defender but I’m telling you at times where OKC versus the Wolves they did the same exact thing to Shay they blit Shay a lot and they put Shay in pick a roll situation and he he had trouble guarding that’s what I’m trying to tell you what I’m saying even though he’s a decent defender he still had problems because they kept doing that to him. So, I’m saying it really doesn’t matter. But they won a championship. So, it does matter though. Hold on. It does matter because you know how worse it would look. It wouldn’t have It would have looked even wor It would have looked way worse if Cam was in that situation. Yeah, that’s true. Well, it looked bad when Shay was in that situation. Well, they won bad. First of all, Shay Shay is a good defender to And it looked bad when he was in that situation. I get what bad is bad. You know what I’m saying? Bad is bad, bro. You You know what the crazy thing about, man? Let’s be real. Anthony Edward, Shay Gardner, Anthony Edwards, that’s that’s Anthony Edwards, bro. Like, like, come on now. You know, you know what’s crazy about OKC? They had the best defense overall. And even though Shay was probably the worst defender, he still gave the average defense. And he had Jaylen Williams who played really good defense to back him up. That was a key, too, in that series. And and let’s not talk about the fact that Jaylen Williams was only playing good defense all the way up until the point what the that was really the only Minnesota game he was really playing defense. All right. So DJ, let me ask you over here, man. Uh the the topic of the actual show, man, because again, you got really a good draft class coming out next year. Um we’ll see. Yeah, we’ll see. I mean, supposedly. Supposedly. All right. Yeah. I mean, it’s a lot of hype. I’m only seeing about like three good players out of this drive right now. All [Laughter] right. So, yeah, we’ll get into the 26 draft in the future, man. Like, in the next couple of weeks, we’ll get into that. Who’s the who these who these players look like? But, um, so is this if if if Cam Thomas is taking the the uh the qualifying offer? I mean, what happens to him the following year, man? Because I don’t think teams are going to really prioritize him. Uh, they’re going to look into the the draft picks that they actually got. Then we got to look at like players that’s coming into next year’s draft and see if they provide more value. And not saying that they’re better than Cam Thomas, but like they provide more value than Cam Thomas. Like it’s not just scoring, it’s other things, passing and setting screens and playing defense. I think honestly you just have to look around the league and and just look at what these other teams are building off of, bro. Like what they valuing. Like if you look around the league, what are they grabbing? They grabbing two-way players, athleticism, mid-range uh guys, scoring guys, like players that’s doing all the other things, bro. Playmaking, uh uh ball handling. So, I mean, guys like Cam Thomas, Anthony Simons, uh who else you can throw in there? Guys that just are microwave scorers, they not Quinn Grimes. Quinton Grimes. No, I wouldn’t say Quinton because he’s more of just a spot of shooter. I wouldn’t call him a microwave scorer. Right. But he scores a lot though. That’s one of his main things. I was just That’s we I mean all right if we we could throw him in there. I look at him more as just a catch and shoot guy. But we could throw him in there. Microwave score guys, they not they really not like valued like that anymore. Yeah. NBA still trying to figure out what it was. Listen, if this is a good team, sure, he can come off the bench for a good team, like a six-man role, but I mean, most of these team, I mean, I don’t think he’s going to come off the bench for no OKC or the maybe maybe Denver. Maybe maybe it’s a six-man for Denver, but I mean, no, he’s not going to be starting on. That’s what I’m trying to I’m trying to figure out a team that he can go to and they’re going to run their offense through Camp Thomas, cuz that that that’s $40 million. This is This is it. This is the team. Yeah, that’s what I’m This is it right here. And the Nets don’t see it. That’s what I’m trying to get to to to Eskimo over here. I mean, $30 million. I mean, you 30 $40 million. I mean, you that guy, right? You’re making allstar teams. I mean, people want to come and like watch you play. Like, they’re the reasons why they actually pay $250 or $300 a ticket to come and see you. I mean, I like seeing Thomas, but I’m not spending $200 to go watch him play. I don’t have to see him that bad. I mean, he’s not spending money to go 40 mil. I’m not saying you’re worth 40 mil. I’m just saying. No, he’s saying that. He’s saying that. Look at the title over here, man. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know what Cam’s saying. He ain’t there yet. He not there. Go ahead, John. Yeah. Just let this be your pro here with the money that was offered. And but the thing is, if you take a coffin offer, I just brought up a great point. This bro organization could intentionally arrest him, bench him, and ruin his chance to even set himself up for a trade or stuff like that. Like if he takes that, I said last stream. I said that like and you also brought up the injury thing like Cam can’t get injured if he wants to get money the following year off of six mills. So take the 14 Quinton Grimes get it was like four year it was like three four years four years let me see because I was looking at his contract. Would y’all do would y’all try to Would y’all give Cam that type of contract? Listen, I’m willing to go I’m willing to go to 18 signed him for three years. DJ, at this point, I’m willing to go six and 18 mil. If he doesn’t want that, then you can’t Grimes guy. Yeah. Like I I can’t give I can’t give him the 20 mil because he hasn’t been healthy for a full year. But if he doesn’t want 16 18 mil, you kind of have to look at sign trade scenarios because he takes a six mill qualifying offer. You can’t get injured. the organization could potentially rest you, take away your chance to up your value, and he can veto trades. That would just be a nasty situation if he takes the $6 million qualifying offer, which nobody wins. At least take the 14 million proving year. Let this be Let this be his pro year. I think Ice, me, U, J, U, DJ, and we all agree. Let this be a proving year and see if you could shut up the people that say you can’t adapt your game. I think that’s the cleanest way to handle this if I was Cam’s agent. But if he doesn’t want that, well, you have way more message than you would with the six million. Quinton Grimes Quinton Grimes put up better numbers than Cam. That’s better. That’s better. That’s better. Yeah. 21.9 points a game, 5.2 rebounds, four and a half assists, 1.5. That’s better numbers than Cam. Yeah. What I’m saying this season, if he would have played, Cam would have had similar numbers to that and he would have scored more. He, bro, he would not have averaged them rebounds or assists or Cam this season had about four, what was he? Four assists and three rebounds and in 25 games. Hold on. You think he’s averaging what was it? That’s almost six rebounds, bro. Bro, he would have averaged about four or five rebounds and he probably would have got up to five. He’s got a lot of faith in Cam, bro. That’s crazy. Like, I don’t know. I’m looking at looking at the numbers and the improvement. No, I’m not saying he’s not, but you you you just like kind of throwing what these other players is doing like it’s so easy to do. No, I’m not throwing what other players are doing. I’m looking at Cam numbers and looking at everybody else numbers that he compared to um they’re ahead of him. So, he he was he started to grow lastbody everybody drop off and come back in. Let me put the link. All right. Yeah, the link is up, guys. Uh, come back. Let me just read your comments when while these guys actually come in. This is a really, really good conversation. Uh, Jayvon ship uh says that Cam Thomas isn’t good enough to have teams break up key parts of the team um due to the unknown and small sample size, but plenty of teams will want him. I don’t know, man. is it’s not in the way that Cam Thomas would want though. I mean, he’s looking to be the guy 30 $40 million right around his age is like, hey, it’s like K Cunningham type numbers like the offense is going to go through the money. His only options are take the the offer Brooklyn gave you, take the $6 million qual offer, but that $6 million quality offer has way more mess going on than Cam I you would think. So, take this offer they gave you and just prove it to you. Prove you could be healthy. prove you could be consistent and let the dice fall where they may next year in free agency. I think that’s the cleanest way to go about this. But if he is dead set on this 30 40 million fiasco, which none of us think he will get ever, he he have to sign and trade him. You can’t let a guy be on the team that’s unhappy that I’m ask. You saw what uh Jeff Teague said about microwave scores. They was like, “Yo, what?” Yeah, I forgot to even I wanted to do a show on that whole thing, you know, but wave score gets like that type of money. That’s the label right there. That’s the thing. That’s the label. Never happened. I think this $40 million is more of a tactic that he wants. I don’t think he really sees himself making that type of money. It’s foolish for him to really say that he stands. I mean, there’s no if that’s real, bro. That’s really It can’t be. It can’t be. He’s not He’s not like Kyrie Irving. He’s not even like Dame Low. Like those are even Kyrie Irving like I mean Kyrie Irving was sensational. You would pay money to really watch him but like even like impact at at winning basketball games like Kyrie wasn’t that. Yeah. Yeah. No Kyrie what you talking about when Kyrie was impactful? No he wasn’t. Cleveland man he he he on his on his live stream today he said it he said it on his live stream I think it was yesterday on his Twitch. He was putting up numbers that didn’t even impact winning, man, before LeBron got there, you know? So, he was just putting up empty calorie stats. He He said it himself. He wasn’t really an impact player. Wasn’t Wasn’t he playing with rookies? Yeah, but you got to make those guys better, man. So, you a rookie to make other rookies better? Kyrie was just looking at it like, “Oh, nah, these guys aren’t that good, so I’m just going to have to go out there and score all the points, you know, because he didn’t trust his teammates and try to go out there and look to make them better.” That was Ky. That’s a little different though, isn’t it? Because it’s not though. See, and I think that’s where people get things confused. If you are saying cuz Kyrie during that time was basically a rookie. Yeah. But if you’re the better player, if you’re the better player in your game and you could draw double teams and kick out instead of just scoring, scoring, scoring, you will raise the other, you know what I’m saying? You will raise the level of the team because you doing a lot. You know what I’m saying? So that fault for not like making these other guys better. If these other guys is trash, you can’t make them better, bro. See, that’s that’s the problem. No, all I’m saying is yeah, pass the ball more and play defense. I’m not saying go out there and make these dudes better. You can’t make these dudes better, bro. He’s horrible. Right. This is the thing that’s not talked about in his market. He was on a bad system last few years. He had guys mostly who were defenders, guys who weren’t spot up like, you know, offensive creators like him. Cam felt like, “Okay, I try and pass the ball to make just goes out to the rim and just grab boards and then run back.” Like these dud he was passing assist to Cam Johnson though. They weren’t knocking the shots down. And that’s a negative on Cam’s play making. So it wasn’t like Cam wasn’t trying, but when you have guys who you don’t gel with who weren’t hitting the shots, Cam’s like, “Okay, I can’t let this hurt me. I got to focus on what I’m good at.” I think Cam wanted to work with some of these guys. It’s just an unbalanced system. What can you do though to be great at everything? Pass Claxton though. That’s crazy. He don’t pass. He passed to Claxton a few times which I thought looked good. He should have done it more. He should have done it more. Yeah. Like Cam has to do that this year. If you’re going to be the two guard, you got to find guys for open shots. You have to keep moving the ball. No dribbles and take your efficient shots. If Cam does that, he definitely ups his financial value a little bit at least. The only other player he probably gonna have to be able to pass to is probably Kleen and MPJ. That’s it. Yeah. Claxton can’t, you know, like um score like that, man. He just doesn’t have lobs. Talk about lobs of DK. Yeah. Not talking about Claxton shooting mid-range shots. He was horrible that last year. Pass through Jagor, bro. I mean, these like, let’s be real, bro. I’m drafting. Wait, hold on. Says he’s going he’s going to become a really really good shooter. He’s going to use this season to really develop into a good three-point shooter. No, he talked about Floyk. talk about physicality, getting stronger in the gym. Quote him right. That’s what he talked about. Getting stronger. That’s what he needs to work on. Getting stronger as a player and shooting might be like the our only best draft pick, bro. Shooting. Listen, want to invest in him. Shooting is the most important skill in basketball, man. Shooting is the most important skill in basketball. I don’t care what anybody says. Shooting is the most important. So, shooting really should be like Jagor’s main main priority, you know? So, he can Jagor did work on the threes. If you could see that translating regular season, I think Jagger has some stuff figured out. But I need to see the interior offense. He had two interior plays that whole summer league. That has to change this season cuz he’s 6’8. You can get past some guys. He just has to get stronger physically to do it. That’s going to be the test. I don’t know if he has league is, bro. Nobody really plays inside like that. Everybody want to shoot, man. Yeah. Everyone wants to shoot threes like Curry, man. That’s why DJ Quinton Quinton Grimes didn’t get a contract yet, right? And then he still he put up um uh better numbers than Cam Thomas. PK, you think? Did Quinton Gra not get a I could have sworn he got a contract. He didn’t get it yet. No, he didn’t get it yet. PK BK, you think Kaminga is taking that qualifying off for the seven mil? Yes, he is. He has no choice, man. I mean, if nobody else wants to offer him anything, he has nobody has money to offer him anything. Yes. No, they did offer him something, but they can’t make the trade. The Suns and the Kings. What? That two-year Oh, that that was a two-year deal. He didn’t want to take that. Nah, the Warriors offered him a two-year deal. The the Kings the Suns offered him something else and the Kings offer him something. No, that was a trade. That was a trade package that they was going to do. That was I also heard Kaminga’s camp offered the front office a three-year $82 million contract. They didn’t want that. I heard that him and his camp offered the front office an $82 million contract for three years and they said no, you have to take the two-year 40 million contract. So there’s like a $40 million separation right now between both sides which is not able to do that to try to see like what else can he do like outside of what he did because he actually played for I ain’t going to lie, he played great in the playoffs, bro. I mean he had no help. Jimmy Butler was a no. Yeah. So it it seems like that Jody Fernandez actually has a certain type of system or or that they want to kind of like implement and they don’t really see Cam Thomas like fitting that type of system. Well well the thing was he he did fit the system a little bit last year because his playmaking was better and he was being more efficient. He just need to be healthy to actually meet the system itself. He showed Spurs. That’s what me and Ice were talking about on his stream before like you’ve seen little improvements. I agree. We all agree on that. That’s why we can’t keep accepting. Hold on. The problem with our fan base, we keep taking and accepting mediocrity, bro. We can’t keep accepting. I agree with you. It is mediocre. That’s why he needs to take this contract, let this be your pro, and do it over 60 games with your coming into the building playing mediocre, playing in spurts, and not doing it every night, bro. Or at least he’s got to be healthy and consistent. Cam’s two biggest flaws are health and consistency. We all agree on that. He needs to show it or he’s never going to get guys like like Anthony Edwards and Steph Curry. Hold on for the Star Trek. The question is not about him playing with Cam Thomas playing with highlevel players. Yeah. 10 and two. Yeah. Again, the the whole thing is is him leading the team to a 10-2 record as him being the main guy and paying him 30 40 mil. Cam was not even averaging 20. But he don’t have he don’t have a team to do that with. Exactly. He doesn’t have a team to do that with. When did Cam ever average 20 points with Kevin Ray? Yeah, listen. I think Cam could be no worse than a third guy, but he’s not a primary secondary guy just because he’s missing those characteristics. Physicality, the the defense, the athleticism, the height. As much as Cam can score, he can do that as a good third or six-man option. You can’t force him to be that guy. Like, like that’s the thing with Cam Thomas. He needs to realize too like he has deficiencies, but you have strengths that you just need to utilize as a part of a system as a third guy or a sixman. He can’t be a first or second guy. Nobody’s going to give him that money. And he needs to realize. All right. So, let me ask DJ something. Do you think that cuz he Cam Thomas thinks he’s better than Jaylen Green. He thinks he’s better than Tyler Herro. And I think he thinks he’s better than like Emanuel Quickley. Um I I mean, he says he’s I don’t know. I mean, this is I can’t get into all day scoring. He’s better scorer. But what else? Yeah, I that I mean you and I kind of like agree with that. Yeah, man. So, Emanuel Quickley over here. Um I think he’s I don’t even think I mean Emanuel Quickley. The only thing Quickley has over him is probably the playmaking, but and speed. He’s a He’s a quick guy, too. Yeah. The athleticism. Athleticism. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just think Cammy quickly I’ll give it I’ll give quickly that. But this is rap just quickly talking about right now. So he needs to take this contract or you do a sign trade. There’s no way of fixing this. The six month you ask me. I don’t think he’s better than than Jaylen Green and Tyler Herro. Like yeah I watch Tyler Hero. I watched Tyler Hero as since he’s got drafted. Like Tyler Herro the way he’s improved bro that’s how I I imagine how Cam I thought Cam was going to improve bro. Tyler Hiro was one of the worst guard defenders in the league and now he’s improved his defense better than what it was before. Time time. What about what about Jaylen Green, though? Is he better than Jaylen Green? Uh, I think at this point I don’t I don’t know. I don’t know. It’s hard to say, bro. I I think Jaylen Green has the tools. He just doesn’t playoffs, bro. Like, that’s just the play. I just think Cam better than all of them at scoring. I think that’s it though. Like that’s really it. And the and the Tyler Hero and and Cam Thomas is not even that far off. Well, the difference with Hero is he won a six-men award like 25 a game. The difference with Hero is he’s won a six-man award. He has accolades. He’s been a third option and this past season he was a first option which it wasn’t great but he showed he could still continue scoring and he became an all-star. No, he became an all-star. Listen, it was good but it wasn’t great because didn’t lead to the winning impact. What was you watching? No. D G D G D G D G D G D G D G D G D G D G D I’m being respectful here. He’s earned accolades, right? He became an all-star this past year. He’s won six men before. He’s been a third option. And this year he got I know, but this year he got to be a first option. Wasn’t great, but he was good as as trying to be that guy. It wasn’t great. He was hold up. He was the only one. Him and DaVon Mitchell was the only one doing something, bro. Bam was a no-show. I know. But if you had a star with Hero, he would have been great. I’m I’m trying to say, but he’s good a as trying to be a primary guy, but he’s never going to be a primary guy. That’s all I’m saying. So, it said, all right, it said Emanuel Quickley already signed. Hold on. He said, so Emanuel Quickley wasn’t injuryprone before his extension. So, he played a lot more games and like you saw like again a larger sample size. Maybe Cam, like I said, I’m not like hating on Cam Thomas. Maybe it’s kind of hard though, BK, because Quickly, he’s got a lot of duels on that team. You got to pass through though, so it’s only one basketball. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This just became the worst time for him to be a free agent. Like the market was against it from the get-go. He just has to wake up and realize take the offer or you just want to outtake the $6 million qualifying offer. But if he takes that offer, it’s just going to be a mess. There’s no way of getting out of that. That’s just a mess if he does that. So, what y think about what JC says over here, man? He says Cam Thomas last game before getting injured, he put up 24 points, 10 assists, and six. If he if he was doing that all if he was doing that all season, he gets around $20 million. If we did those type of numbers all season, but that’s what I’m talking about with him starting to to hit the other gear that he needs to get to as far as passing and rebound in his in his fourth year. Like I said, the stats lined up for everybody else, Donovan Mitch, whoever you want to line up stats against, his shooting and his scoring is lined up within the assist and the rebounding. And he started to show a little bit more of that this season before he got hurt. So when I say when when when you talking about I have faith in Cam, no, I’m seeing the improvement. I just don’t know if he’s going to get to that level. But I said Cam is also behind those guys because his two rookie his his rookie year and the second year he only played 15 and 16 minutes a game but you know playing 31 and and 31 so they got the time you know what I’m saying to to to adjust. So Cam is to me Cam’s still learning. He is. But I mean these these are not on consistent basis games though. This is like one game here and then 10 games. Right. That’s the problem. He’s giving you the spurts, but like you say, DJ, he’s got to do it. He’s got to do it. He’s got to do it like evaluate this. Listen, just hold on. Compare him to the best players in the league, man. This is This is really simple, man. Look, compare him to Kate Cunningham. Compare him to Shay. Compare him to uh uh Ant-Man, Don. Compare him. If you want him if y’all want him to ice, if you want him to be the best player on your team, you’re going to have to compare him to them dudes, bro. Cuz those dudes are the best players on their team. And there and there’s no comparison because those guys have gone farther than him. So that’s just it simple. And half of them dudes is in his draft class. But what I’m saying is to you right when I checked the numbers earlier compared to their fourth year to Cam’s third and fourth year, the only thing they had over Cam was rebounding and assist. That is defense. And and hold on, they they’re taller. They’re more athletic as far as hold on. You’re looking at it on dimensionally. No, no, I’m not looking at it. I’m just I’m just explaining what I did earlier. As far as numbers, as the guys that he’s looking at, as far as numbers, he is lined up with those guys as far as the scoring and um the field goal percentage and three-point percentage. He’s lined up those guys with that. As far as the rebounding and assist, he is behind. And I said those guys started two years before Cam. They got their playing time. So, Cam is about two years. I’m saying he’s about two years behind those guys. That’s what I’m thinking. I don’t want no dude that’s that’s undersized that don’t play no defense as my best player, bro. I’m sorry. No, that that’s very fair points. And if Cam was averaging that type of number right there for like 15 out of 20 games last year, he could have made a case. Oh, John. John, they say that this this dude plays defense. He gets effort. Bro, there’s no No, he does not, bro. There’s no defense being played. What are y’all watching? I’ve I’ve listen Cav’s defense has never g anything special. We’ve seen it. We We’ve seen him get crushed by guys. Listen, he doesn’t he doesn’t do any bull denials. He doesn’t get I got a one game right now. I got what he did have last what he had the beginning of last year. Well, he was getting some steals last year defensively. He did have some steal numbers. They weren’t great. If they were saying like I’m I’m talking about like like let’s say all right Kate Cunningham you’re not going to like shut him down right you’re not going to really like lock him down you’re not holding him to zero points but but but right you can affect his efficiency like you got you make him work harder right to score the points and and the Cam Thomas guarding him or guarding one of these elite guys in the league I mean they’ll score like 25 points on 14 15 like field goal attempts, man. It would be like um like equivalent to like you playing like a a 12-year-old. You just get whatever shot you want. They can’t put any kind of resistance on you or anything like that, man. So, I mean that that’s what it’s like with you just be the guy that that comes off the bench, gets buckets and ego, ego, ego, ego. Understand it, bro. If the Nets were in contention, he was our sixman, none must be complaining because at least we know we would give us play. I think he is. You know what is he’s 23 years old. This say BK. This this is all I’m g say bro. When Cam comes back, say if he comes back this year because I think he is. Prove it. Just prove it to to the front office. Prove that you can play you could play uh uh play defense. Prove that you can play make on a on a consistent basis. Prove that you can rebound the ball and prove that you can be a number one option. Prove it. Right. Listen and last year to prove it. Everything Jay and I say, everything DJ and I am saying about this are 100% right. Let this be your prove it year. Let the fact last year I mean he has improved. Yeah. And we and and we’ll critique it fairly. We’ll talk about his good games this year, his bad games when he’s still work on. But if he has mostly a lot of good effort performances, you’re looking at least a 5 to 10 bump in your salary next year at least if he meets the ceiling. Nobody holds I don’t I’m not a fan numbers without ad bro. So he he playmates though. He’s a willing passer. like he doesn’t go out there just look to score score score you know and that’s why they kind of favor him over like Lonnie Walker like who who’s just who’s who’s wired to score like at least um um Austin Reeves even though he’s a he’s a cone on defense but he looks to pass he’s he he you know he can you know run some point and for his size he’s very a rebounder yeah and rebounds yeah I would say this he if Cam is going to be a third option on this team ever he needs a good front court because if you don’t have a good front He gets he will get crushed defensively. He needs a good front next to him. That’s a problem too with trying to utilize Cam Thomas. You can’t utilize him as a top option unless you have a good front. Oh, we got we got big ball. We got big fan breeze. He doesn’t like he does not like conversations we’re having. We attacking Cam Thomas. My hold that long. I didn’t see you, man. Go ahead, man. Go ahead, Breezy. speak for me. Yo, no, I gotta laugh. Every time you introduce me on this show, you do that. That [ __ ] is hilarious, bro. Yo, shout out to shout out to Hooks, man. Nets fans is the best fans. You already know. But yo, bro, the front office. So, they don’t they didn’t they haven’t been done right by anybody. It’s not just Cam Thomas. They overpaid Joe Harris. They didn’t pay Jared Allen to But I want to agree with DJ and um and John off rip. Yeah. let him come back and prove it. I think he’s the best fit for the rookies and the window he’s in. Like other players that y’all would consider more talented than Cam Thomas. If they come here, do they even fit in that window? You know, Cam Thomas is in a window where he’s good for Jordy going into his second year. You know, some players, they may be in a contract year if they get traded here. That’s not good for Jordy because they’re going to be taking opportunities away from the rookies. You know what I’m saying? I just think Cam Thomas is the best fit. He’s not necessarily the best player in the NBA. That’s not why he’s my favorite player. He’s my favorite player because um in Brooklyn, I think he’s one of the best players that Shawn Marks ever drafted. Him and Jared Allen in my opinion. How can Let me ask you something. How can you look at guys like Anthony Donovan Mitchell, Kate Cunningham, um Shay, and then say, “Oh, I want Cam Thomas to to to be a starter on this team.” I I want to get those kind of guys though. I want to get those kind of players. That’s insane to me. What do you mean Thomas is the best scorer on the Brooklyn Nets? No, listen to it. I’m gonna repeat the question again. I’m Everybody be quiet. That’s scoring. That’s scoring, bro. All right. I said, how can you look at guys like Shay Gildas Alexander, Kay Cunningham, right? Even like um let’s say people in his in his bracket uh Anthony Edwards, Donovan Mitchell, and then say, “Hey, I want K I want Cam Thomas on my team to start and and be the focal point.” Because he never had the chance. Yo, let me say this. Let me just talk basketball with you. Let me tell Let me talk Let me talk basketball with you real quick. There’s no way. When when he um when y’all quote unquote say he was the first option, he wasn’t, bro. It’s 24 seconds on the shot clock. They was giving to him. They was giving him the ball in the third basketball option action. So, the ball would swing to Macau. All um it be Spence, Macau, and Cam Johnson. They was all touching the ball before. No, I’m just saying even even last year when it was um Shruder, he wasn’t the number one option. Shruder ran that offense. That’s fair. That’s fair to say. Thomas was like the playmaker. He was like the playmaker as But the offense ran through K though. Yeah. Male Brides was saying that like the offense was like ran through. That’s because Macau could say that because they went to him first when when they went to him first then Well, we talking about when he was here, but that was two seasons ago. But it was like 1 A, one B. I mean, it was like kind of you take a turn, you I take a turn. It was like kind of Yeah. There wasn’t really no offensive identity right there. Yeah. Yeah. It wasn’t I think that’s different. I wouldn’t say it was all through MueL. N I don’t think so neither. But to to Hoop’s point, bro, Kate Cunningham is a great player. Um Shay is a great player. They both big point guards. I’m sorry. Let me All right, let me let me try something different. All right, so I look at Claxton as a starting center. Then I look at Jokic. I mean, I don’t want I don’t want I don’t want Claxton. I want something like Jokic. I want something like Shangon. You know what I’m saying? I want something somebody like Nazi. Look at like like like Nas Reed and Noah Clowny like Noah Clowny’s on you can’t you can’t dudes bro just don’t measure up they run they could run they could have run the offense through Jokish they could run the offense through MB bro these dudes they could they play inside the three-point line bro I got no problem with with somebody playing inside the three-point line I want that too you got to trust Cam Thomas to do it I’m making a point to like how can you maybe everybody Even like let’s say Jaylen Brunson, right? How he carried that Knicks scene. You look at Jaylen Brunson. You look at um even like you want to throw Tyrese Hallebertton in there, Kate Cunningham, Alexander, uh Ant-Man. I look at all these players and then I look at Cam Thomas and I’m like, nah, I want those guys, you know? They just they’re just better, right? They just I got to get I got to get I My thing is I’m not trying to say he should do what they doing. I’m saying with these rookies he’s a good fit. He not going to step on their toes. They going to get minutes straight pow contract. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. He wants a contract. Of course he’s going to step on Cam has an ego, bro. I don’t think Cam has an ego. No, what I’m saying is how you going to step on their toes? You don’t think I think Drake power contract he wants to put up as much as He’s playing for a contract. So, he’s not looking at it like, “Oh, let me mentor these guys.” He’s not that type of guy. He’s not going to say, “Let me I don’t think he has that kind of leadership ability.” I think I think Breezy, when you look at like young guys when they playing for contracts, they typically don’t like go out there and say, “Let me mentor, help these young rookies.” They just go out there, play for a contract, get their money, and then take a back seat. There’s a difference between playing like team for like playing and playing for a contract. and and Cam Thomas is like trying to prove out there that, hey, I’m this guy. I’m the actual best player, you know, um um in the league. I mean, that’s what he said out of his own mouth and he’s one of those guys and and he’s looking at it in terms of making money. Scoring wise, he’s up there, but just everything else is the problem. I don’t think I don’t think I think to be honest, bro, it’s not even all of Cam’s fault, bro. To be honest, I’m just gonna give him some grace. It’s not even all of his fault cuz like they they should have like taught him cuz like the way he came up it was just like score the ball, score the ball. So he just doesn’t he didn’t have that mentality of let me do everything else. Well, here’s DJ DJ his minds he was a like everybody falls in love with basketball for different reasons, right? You know, some people like to pass, some people like to rebound. There’s guys like I think he took the Kobe thing to a different level than Yeah, that’s what I’m saying. He he he wasn’t teaching, oh, hog the ball and just score the ball, bro. That wasn’t what Kobe was teaching. Well, I mean, Kobe was like that at at one point, man. No, I mean, I mean, if you if you want to go when he was like 18 years old, but I mean, he grew out of that, though, bro. That didn’t last. Well, Phil Jackson had to get him out of that mindset. Same thing with Same thing with how Kobe talk, bro. It wasn’t like, oh, let me hog the ball every single game and not pass the ball, not get my teammates better. Because let’s be real, bro. He made his teammates better. Ah, I don’t know. But not like during that 06 year after Shaq left. I see him a lot. He made DL better. He made all them all all them dudes speak up highly about Kobe High. He made them better, bro. I mean better in terms of like pre like like preparation like like taking the game very seriously that. But in terms of shot selection, passing I’m not saying Kobe didn’t do that very well, but like Yeah. And you know that’s true. Kobe was a certified ball. It’s right. He’s right. Not all his career though. I mean, early on his like when he was like 18 to like 21 22. Yeah. But let’s not he looks at that. Like I said, that’s that’s what Cam Thomas’s like mind is like the human brain is like a computer. You can program your mind really to kind of think a certain way. Rings off of just being a ball, bro. Well, Shaq, like I said, Shaq got three finals MVPs, right? So he was and the best he got carried he got carried you know to got three without him though. Two. Okay. Two. He got two without him. Yeah. But now I mean you have Paul Casaw. You got Andrew. So now you So hold now you doing a discredit. It’s a team. It’s a team game. It’s a team sport. He didn’t win those. Exactly. Shaq wouldn’t have gotten that without Kobe. Well, Kobe wouldn’t have got those without Shaq. Oh, okay then. Then say that, bro. Keep keep the same energy from both players. All right. All right. Yeah. All right. But so where’s Breezy at? You there, man? So that that’s that’s my whole point, man. Yeah. So that’s my whole point. I just look at the top players and I look at Donovan Mitchell. You look at you could throw Steph Curry in there, how he impacts the game, and I just look at Cam Thomas and I’m like, hold on. I just wanted to add to the it’s a team game part with you and DJ, bro. It’s the coaching, too. JB Bicker Staff is a way better coach and the uh he was coaching um Donovan Mitchell. He was over there and then now he’s over there with K Cunningham. He’s a good coach, bro. Sham Thomas never even had a good coach. Jord Fernandez, he do his best. But the truth is is that he don’t play to strengths. He’s still asking him to play develop as well. You don’t think Jord’s a good coach. You don’t think he’s a good coach? No. No. I’m not saying that he not a good coach. I’m saying that he’s played developing Cam Thomas to shoot the long ball, but he wasn’t playing to his strengths for the most part. Cam Thomas strengths is inside the three-point line and looking for clax in the P&R. They wasn’t doing no P&Rs with Cam Thomas and and um have they ever It was only 25 games, so it’s hard to say. You know what I’m saying? Who was JC was comparing Kyrie? I mean, to be honest, hard BK. Don’t you think it’s hard to play pick and with with a guy like Claxton who don’t provide offense at all? Yes, it is hard. Well, it depends. I mean, on on like can Cam like draw Claxton’s defender to him? And to me, like I said, if you’re um let’s say who’s one of the best Let’s say Jay McDaniels is guarding like uh Cam Thomas, right? I mean, there’s no reason to send help. I mean, Jaden, he’s not going to score on Jay McDaniels like that. Yeah, exactly. You know, you go. So, it all depends on the team and how bad defensively, you know, the team is. But like for the most part, if you’re a really really good defense, like Jay Jaylen Brown, right, when healthy and he’s guarding Cam Thomas, there’s there’s no need to send help. I mean, Cam Thomas is not going to really get by him, bro. I seen Cam Thomas giving Jaylen Brown work. Yeah, but that I’m talking about like I’m winners for real like in a seven game series because he you saw what he did to Luca. you seen what he did to Kyrie Irving and that’s because I was I was just like you. I was, you know, I was on I was like I wanted Cam Thomasson but then when I saw the finals and I’m like last year and I saw what Brown was doing to Kyrie I’m like whoa. I was like damn if he could do that to Kyrie, one of the most skilled players in NBA history. What the hell you think he’s going to do to Cam Thomas? Bro, I think Cam Thomas could score on anybody, bro. That’s just me, though. What? What? injury. That’s not true. When Jaylen Brown evidence to where he hasn’t scored on just everybody, like I said, you look at the regarded by Jaylen Brown. Look at the stats. If you if you’re going to like the finals, right? You know, like like Boston was mentioned, you’re going to like conserve your going to conserve your energy. You’re not going to go out there and play defense for all 48 minutes like like every single every single game in the regular season. But in a missing numbers when he’s being guarded by defenders. Yeah. In a playoff series. Yeah. You’re going to Bro, I just feel like I feel like at the end of the day with all of the playmakers that we got, we need somebody that’s a shot creator, bro. And and and just for what it’s worth, when you building a championship roster, you need more than one shot creator. You do. When you look at last year, you got shade. You got you got uh uh you got Hallebertton and Seakum like both teams that went to the finals had more than one shot creator. You need more than one shot creator, bro. I mean, they had what? Matther and they had uh what’s boy’s name? The one that can shoot. Uh yeah, you got Nimrod Smith. Neem Smith. Yeah. Yeah. So, he he Yeah, they had some OB. You even throw Obi Toppen in there, too. He’s not a shot creator. I mean, I’ve seen him try as I mean, he he looked like one to me. Yeah, at times, but you can’t ask him to like do it for like, you know, he could do it in, but you can’t ask him to do it in like, you know, 40 35 minutes a game, man. It just looks bad. Like, he’s Yeah. No, no, of course not. You got No, he’s going to come up with in spurts. In certain spurts, like depend on the situation. figure that cuz there’s times like over time in my head him out there for 30 minutes. That’s terrible. Yeah, exactly. Like you running the offense like him like the ball like the offense running Nick was still stupid for letting him go though. Well, he’s willing to he was willing to listen more like he was willing to like like play a role, you know, maybe on the Knicks he was trying to be the guy out and then what’s his name? Tombo. I’d rather listen to Rick Carl, bro. Yeah, that’s true, too. Yeah, he’s he’s a better offensive minded coach than uh than than Tib. He’s a better allaround coach. All right, let me see what Harlem got to say. Harlem on the rise. What’s good, man? My fault for having you on. Stop the Kobe disrespecting the comments, too. Nah, what’s good, yo. Yo, so what you think, man? Um Cam Thomas signed his qualifying offer. No other general managers. Harlem, they don’t really believe in Cam. They don’t want to trade for him. Um, it looks bleak next year because of the draft and let’s see how the draft looks next year. We’ll see what happens there. Um, you know, is it just the end of Cam Thomas’s career? His NBA career. We seen it with like Marshon Brooks and uh Killian Hayes. Um, hell no, bro. You ving, bro. Talking about it’s the end of his career. Come on, bro. No, I’m saying we see Listen, there’s no guarantees, man. I can agree. If he has this if Cam has this ego for the rest of his career, maybe it Yeah, exactly. That’s what I’m saying. No, don’t don’t say it like killing sound crazy. So, what I’m saying what I’m saying is for one, Kim Thomas is a professional. Even though he did that with Zack Law or whatever, you don’t see him you don’t Yeah, he’s a professional. Like, you don’t see question. Do you think it’s professional what he’s doing? Going to the internet talking about the Nets? What do you mean he went to the internet talking about the Nets? What did he say on his Instagram story, bro? Talking about I worth this. If you don’t value me, come on, bro. You don’t see. I didn’t see that. I didn’t see it. So, let go. Let them go. Go ahead. Right. All right. So, I’mma keep it short and sweet. Right. Cam Thomas. Cam Thomas is better than Emanuel. quickly. He’s better than um um [ __ ] who was the other guy that he named? Oh, yeah. Hold on. We got to watch the language, man. They only gave when you was kissing up a storm, they only gave me 50 cents on that live stream, man. I’m dead. Um they said Jaylen Green. Jaylen, he’s he better than Quickly. He better than Jaylen Green. And And Tyler Herro, in my opinion, it’s like a toss up. It could go either way. Like I don’t think Tyler is better than him, but I don’t think him is better than him. I think it’s like they pretty much like right there with each other. But my thing is they all got paid. Listen, bro, Cam Thomas is a hell of a talent. I feel like the Nets should pay him, but I also feel if they don’t pay him, he should go somewhere else where he’s valued. That’s how I feel. You know what I’m saying? Everybody else values him around the league. Nobody. That’s not That’s not facts though. That’s some [ __ ] you made up. Why nobody How come he can’t get a Male Bridges type Hall then? Yo, first of all, like let’s keep it Cam Cam Thomas is way better than Muel Bridges, right? And this is coming from a guy that likes the Knicks. No, he is, bro. And the only reason why the Knicks, he’s way he’s way better than Bridget. And the only reason why the Knicks paid like that for Bridges is cuz they want to develop more. All right. So if you want to say Yeah. Okay. Like talentwise, yes, he’s more talented than Muel Bridges, right? But is he more valuable than Muel Bridges? Yo, listen BK. Listen BK, right? For a champion, he’s not more valuable. So listen BK. So you’re not So you’re not listening, right? The reason why you have no validity to what you saying is everything that you throw at Cam Thomas is not factual, right? So, okay. So, let’s go down the list. Has Cam Thomas ever had legit help? No. So, you can sit here and say, “Yo, Harlem, he hasn’t done XYZ, right?” And I’m going to keep saying this to you. LaMelo Ball been in the NBA six or seven years. He never made it to the playoffs. Never. Right. Injured. Injured. Injured. No, no, no, no, no. BK, the same thing. I don’t want to hear that, bro. No help, bro. Some of them, some of them, he wasn’t hurt, right? So, anyway. Right. He been in the league seven years. Hold up. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. It’s the same thing though, BK, cuz the thing is is had he’s had Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Right. So, he been in the league seven years, right? He never made it, right? So, but nobody is nobody in the world is going to say, “Yo, LaMelo Ball is ass. He can’t help a team.” Nobody’s going to say that, right? So, my thing is Cam Thomas has never had help. He’s never had adequate help. Right? You look at Trey Young, you could say, “Oh, Trey Young made it to the Eastern Conference Finals two years ago.” Yeah, he did, but why didn’t they win? He didn’t really have the help. So, these are players that’s really, really good players, right? people in the Eastern Conference Finals. He had to help, man. But they the problem is with they swallow the whistle. Hold on. They swallow the whistle in the playoffs. I mean, Trey Young, listen what I’m saying, bro. John Collins and and Clint Capella is not adequate help, my guy. Stop it. But hold up. They was But hold up. That year they was playing, they was playing out of their mind them years, bro. Yeah. No, I’m not I’m not saying that they wasn’t. What I’m saying is, right, the team that they lost to, I get what you’re saying. They wasn’t like a good enough team. So, what I’m trying to say is, right, but nobody’s going to say we don’t value Trey Young. And I’m not saying Cam Thomas is Trey Young, but what I’m trying to say is if you put a Trey Young with Cam Thomas, right, the Nets would be a lot better. So that means Listen to what Listen to what I’m saying. Listen Listen to what I’m saying. Hold on. They’re not getting those calls. Listen to what I’m saying before he rebuttal. Right. If you put a Trey Young with a Cam Thomas, the Nets would be a lot better. Listen to what I’m saying before you rebuttal, DK. Right. They would be better. This is a fact, right? Because now you have a legit playmaker. Correct. Right. Trey Young can give you seven and nine assists. Right. Hold on. Hold on. DJ, let me finish. Let me talk to BK. Right. So Trey Young can give you seven and nine assists, right? So that’s a legitimate playmaker. And then you have somebody that can legit give you 25 points, right? Along with Cammy. So now you have two players that can give you 25 to 30. You have a legit playmaker and then you fill the roster out around them. Right? Now, I’m not saying that’s a championship, but that’s a beginner to something that can be longevity, right? But Cam Thomas has never had that. So, your jud So, your judgment on him is not really a accurate judgment because the guy never had help. So, get the man help and then make a judgment. You understand what I’m trying to say? Like, nobody’s good enough to do it by themselves. That’s what I’m saying. I’m not looking at it from I’m looking at it from a talent like a player perspective. Like I’m just comparing him to like the top guys in the league, right? And I’m saying like I want even the top guys got help, bro. This is what I’m trying to You watch the Nets back in 2002 when when they played the Lakers and and and Jason Collins was our sensor and then you had Shaq, right? I’m help. We need that type of like but the top players have help. Kevin Durant had Bill and Booker. No. Right. So, all right. So, if if if that’s what he’s saying, I don’t understand the judgment of what we were saying. Hold up. Basically, before you came up here, we were saying that if you want somebody to be your number one option, right? You have your number one option. you got your second, third, and then the rest of the team fills out. Them dudes, if you measuring up to these other championship teams, bro, we so far away. It’s It’s ridiculous. Like, we don’t have the best. We don’t even have a number one option or franchise. Cam Thomas is the number one option though, bro. A bad roster. Hold on. Hold on. Hold up. BK, hold up. If you put Hold on, hold up. If you take Kan off, right? Take K C. Yo, bro. Hold on, bro. If you put K Cunningham on the Nets right now, they still ass, my [ __ ] Stop it, bro. Yes, they are, bro. Yes, they are, bro. Yes, they are, bro. If you put K if you Yo, BK, if you put Kingham, right, Zick, you said that our player was better than the Detroit Piston players. What I said was if you put Cam Thomas on that Detroit team, right? Don’t change what I said. I said if you before before this conversation you said and this what I said, right? I’m telling you what I said. I said if you put Cam Thomas with Z with um with uh [ __ ] Isaiah Stewart uh [ __ ] um Durant Tobias Harris. If you put him with the same team, they would be better than if you put C with the current. Oh my god, bro. This is crazy, dog. No, hold on. Hold up. I think you missing cuz you’re looking at the scoring aspect. Like if Cam goes to Detroit, I get Bro, I’m looking at the defensive aspect. You got Isaiah Isaiah Stewart. Hold up. Cam still got to guard his dude, too, bro. Oh, and he will, bro. And that’s what I’m trying to say, bro. Like, if you look at the If you look at the He hasn’t. His his defensive numbers is so bad. Yo, bro, we got to agree to disagree, bro. That’s it. But no, that’s an actual number, bro. There’s no opinion based or nothing like that’s an actual fact. Those are actual numbers, bro. His defensive stats, bro. Again, I just I I just agree. Those numbers up. If you go on stat news right now, those numbers is there, bro. We could look up stats all we want. We’re talking about if you just switch two players on two different Okay. Okay. Hold up. Let me ask you another question. If you Cam is on the Hold B, hold up. So Cam is on Detroit, right? If you gonna bring the uh playmaking and rebounding that that K does, bro. K be averaging almost a triple double sometimes. Yo, bro, if you put Kade on the Nets, they ass still, bro. No, bro. I’m saying if you put Cam on the Detroit Pistons, like how you said about Kade Cunningham, you swapping players, right? Is Cam going to provide the rebounding and playmaking that Kade does on a consistent night that K? He don’t have to. He’s not a point guard. He’s not a point guard. Who’s going to be play? He’s not a point guard. So, who who He’s not a point guard. Cam is a two guard. Kade is a point guard. You know, let me finish, bro. Hold on. Go finish. Who provides? Who provides the who provides the uh playmaking over there on on Detroit? Bro, they probably gonna have Jaden Ivory. Yo, bro, let me ask you a question. DJ, I’ll be giving you If you put If you put If you put Kade on the next, right? Who they five? DJ, you said who’s the five? 12. If you have K. Yo, BK, let let DJ talk, bro. Let DJ talk, bro. One at a time. If you put Kate on the net, who they five, DJ, name him. 45. Uh, this current team with our rookies, bro. Who the five, my [ __ ] Last year’s team. Last year, right? No, no, no. I’m talking about right now. If you swipe K for Cam and you put who they starting five name them, bro. Kon Johnson. Probably. I mean, I guess I guess BK, can you let that man speak, bro? You gonna have your turn after. Let him speak, bro. I said I said Keon Johnson. Throw in MPJ maybe and then maybe Clown or maybe Danny Wolf and then CL something like that. So So all right. Yo LM. Yo LM don’t jump in yet. Right. Let this man defend himself. I only said that cuz I don’t know who are two. Everybody gonna have they shot. Right. So this [ __ ] said Kade Keon Johnson Michael Pter. He said Danny Wolf and Nick Claxton. So DJ, right? As good as cuz like you and BK you asking the wrong bro. You asking the wrong dude, bro. I said I I I agree with you about No, no, no, no, no. Cool, bro. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I’m just talking to you, right? Cuz I think you I just think you’re missing the whole Cam Thomas point, bro. No, I’m not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I’m not missing nothing. It’s just that you sounding crazy right now. a sixman spot. No, bro. Listen. We not changing the goal post. No, I’m not moving. We not changing the goal. But but what I think you’re missing out with Kade provide, bro. That’s why Bro, listen. Yo, DJ, listen to me, bro. Listen to me. Right. That’s that’s their squad, right? You said Cade, Keon Johnson, right? You said Michael Porter, Clowny, and you No, no, sorry. Danny Wolf, and you said Claxton, right? So, how many how many games do they win with that starting five, DJ? Same amount. Yo, nobody answer. Let Let DJ answer. How many games do they win? Same amount we did this year. Okay. So, right. Hey, BK, please don’t jump in. Let Let the man defend itself. So if they going to win the same amount, right, then you just proved that Cade is not an improvement over Cam. Because if it would be the same amount of games, if we’re going by your logic, then that mean Kade ain’t moved the needle at all. He did the same [ __ ] that Cam did. So how is he off, bro? Oh my god. Yo yo yo yo. LM the man just said that if you put Kade on the team that the team would be better if he was on it than what Cam look right for Hold on. You’re forgetting you’re forgetting a crucial element, bro. You’re forgetting the fact Detroit’s roster is better regardless if if if the Nets had a roster where they was trying to compete. Yo, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. If if if you added Kade to a Nets roster that was trying to compete like Detroit is trying to now I don’t want you to if you put Kade on that roster right if you add K to a roster that’s trying to win our team is in rebuild mode listen what I’m saying yo Ellen listen what I’m saying you’re changing the goal post from what I’m saying though that’s I didn’t want you. Listen, listen what I’m saying. That’s why I didn’t want you to finish. That’s not even the argument. That’s not even the debate. That’s why I didn’t want you to finish. The debate was if you currently put for player. If you just swap player for player, like if you was to put Cam on the Pistons right now with their current roster. All right. All right. So, I was on the right track. basically say you got to basically say like he’s saying Cam you put Cam in Detroit can’t the the same like they’ll have the same record basically Detroit they’re not making the playoffs what’s good yes they listen hold this hold I’m going to ask you a question this for the whole pan if you if you put Cam on Detroit right do you know what he’s going to have to do over on Detroit in order for them to be what was yo DJ listen what I’m saying DJ listen what I’m saying right hold up during the season yo DJ listen what I’m saying bro doules bro yo DJ listen what I’m saying you already lost the debate because of what you just said if we just All right you said no no no no bro you already lost the debate bro did you hear what you just said you just said if you put Kade on the current roster they would have the same exact record I said you put Cam on on on the Detroit Pistons. I’m saying they’re not making the playoffs. All right. I I just asked you if you put Kade on the net. Hold up. That’s not because of Cam. That’s because he’s not Bro, I’m asking you a question. I said if you put Kade on the Nets right now be bad. So that’s All right. So that’s So what I’m saying is if you and BK is telling me All right. So if you and So Right. So that’s what I’m trying to tell you [ __ ] So why dick? You said I’m not. Yo, bro, if you put you said you and BK done been on here for an hour. Yo, Kade is way better than Cam. Kade is way better than Cam, right? Y’all [ __ ] been talking about a team sport now, bro. You’re changing the argument. Bro, I’m not I just said it. Let Jamal and LM get in. Jamal, go ahead. Ask ask a question. Hold on, man. [ __ ] in this game, bro. If you put If you put Kade on the neck, do he get DMPS like how Cam Thomas been? You said who? No. No. I Listen, what I’m saying is that my comparison is hold up. Hold up. You put them in here. They’re 10 to 12 games better, right, than they were. Their record is 10 to 12. No, they not. No, they not, bro. No, they not. No, they not. No, they not. BK, you lying, bro. No, they not 10. Listen to what I’m trying. Yo, listen to what I’m trying to say. You You can’t say the same thing for Cam and and and K because one organization treat Kade a certain way and up up no way. We’re not talking about an argument, bro. That’s organization. Okay. So, let me ask you a question. So, if they have similar career, you’re talking that’s like a politic type thing. That’s not I’m trying to say if they have if if Kim got the same type of playing time K got the same. They don’t. They don’t. Exactly. So how can you compare it? Wait, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. The main Hold on. The main thing about it, Kade. Y look. Y’all take Cade number one. K was a better player. That’s all we said. Look, Kade is a number one pick, right? Cam is 27. If you if you’re looking at the distance between the two players, of course, you would expect the number one pick to be the better overall player. If if if Kade is on the team, [ __ ] is not trying to figure out if if K getting 30 mil, he’s getting the money. But that’s why LM begin with because he said, wait, hold on, hold on. One mic. One mic. This This is This was before Harlem got on here, right? Before Harlem said anything, he said, “Yo, is Kade,” we was talking about Kade, bro. Said, “Who is better, Kade or K Thomas?” Like, “No, I did not say that.” Right. No, I did not say that. No, I did not say that. No, I did not say that. You lying. I did not say that. What I said, what I’m saying, Harlem, but once again, you’re not listening. I said before, go ahead. Before you came on here, they was talking about who was a better player, Kade. Cuz we was going down the list. They they named Jaylen Green and Malio Quickley and Kade. We said Kade of course is a better player. I everybody in their right mind knows who watches basketball knows. But if you feel Kade All right, but DJ, if you feel Kade is such a a better overall player, right? And I know you going to lie. Yes. We’re not talking. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I know you gonna lie about this, right? So, we could replay the stream and run you back, my [ __ ] Right. When I just close, though. I think the Hold on. Hold on. When I just asked you what would be the team that Kade is on, right? Not not talking about the Nets with a good team with this roster. When I just asked you, you told me that the Nets would have the same record with Cage they did with Okay, cool. Hold on. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. Cuz you [ __ ] like to cut [ __ ] off so they don’t say they point. Bro, so if they would have the same exact record, right? Explain to me if a [ __ ] is better than another [ __ ] Right. Before you speak, listen. If Kade is that much more better than Cam Thomas, if he went to the Nets with this roster, why are they not better than? Shouldn’t he elevate Say it again. Hold on. I’mma say it again. Bro, that’s Stop it, bro. Sport, bro. All right, then. Okay. So, so if it’s a team, hold up. You You came in here and you changed the argument, bro. It was about individual, bro. It wasn’t about team. Come on, bro. My [ __ ] it’s never about individuals, bro. It’s always about the team. So if you [ __ ] the original question was who was better. You didn’t he didn’t say which bro every everything DJ. Oh what the [ __ ] happened? I don’t know what the [ __ ] happened. Yo yeah you we we still hear you. He cut out. No you still we hear him. I mean I don’t understand what I mean though I think indivision I think he’s getting individual. I don’t think Harlem I don’t think Harlem was here when the original question. The original question was who is a better Yeah. Drop off and come back in Harlem. The link is up. That’s all he I think he was getting individual and team success mixed. Yeah. It wasn’t about team success about okay you swap this player on this team and if he can be this. It wasn’t about that. The original question was individually who’s a better player and and the question Yes. The question the question was kind of dumb because yes Kade is a better player. Yes, we know that to be fair, Cam Thomas would be on the better team, but in terms of the success of of what they had last year, rebound saying Kahan plays defense though. I mean, you watch, bro. Do y’all realize that this man Kade was almost averaging a triple double, bro? Yeah. Kade is individually without a doubt the better player between K. That’s what I’m saying. So, and my point is I look at K Cunningham. I’m looking at Jaylen Brunson. I look at Jaylen Brown. You know, I look at You got to ask your original You got to ask the original question, bro, because I don’t think they they just came in here late talking about team sport, bro. Like, no, that was No, I’m just I’m going back to that. I’m just looking at it. It was my whole point of like wanting to sign Cam Thomas like to a a $30 million or $40 million deal, right? It’s how other general managers are looking at it. All you got to do is just compare the like the top guys in the league and Cam is nowhere near BK. They don’t they don’t add context to Cade, right? Because he he dealt with injuries for most of his first year and then his second year injury, right? So when now in the fully healthy season where he he played most of the season, they got a good GM, they surrounded him with spacing for once, a good coach, and now you see what the number one pick can do when you surround him with spacing and a good coach, a a good front offense. They made the six seed and they took the Knicks today, right? They went from bottom of the league to six. Bro, I don’t think Cam is could could do something like that, bro. If he could, then why hasn’t he done it? Yeah. Give him a chance. And we got Well, we got to see if his body point though. Hold up. So, so so so Jamal, do you think that you swap those players like how he said? You think Cam Thomas is getting him to the six seed? Now, remind you now Kade plays defense, he he playmates, he rebounds the ball. So, I mean, is K is Cam doing that? Yeah, listen. Wait, hold on. I’m not right. Yo, DJ, I’m not saying I don’t care about what you saying off, bro. You come here, bro. Before the team traded shooter and made all those trades, you know that the the team wasn’t far off from the six seed, right? Yeah. We was like the seventh or something. Exactly. So if we would have kept kept Shruder and would have built built off that which I said hold a beginning of the season we don’t those guys that was halfway in the season that was halfway No hold up uh what’s the name Dennis Shruder got traded like December something that was halfway it was almost uh trade deadline n he got traded like early December oh okay he got traded early December was about that was like He died like what? December like 10th before they traded him. They was about to succeed though. That’s what I’m trying. They just really wasn’t even here that long to be honest. But they traded him early December and then February I think they was I think around you got to recognize the type of play. Yo, bro. Yo, listen. Ellen, let me ask you a question, right? You play street ball, right? All right. So, you ever play you ever played with a bunch of bum ass [ __ ] I’m sure we all have at some point. Yeah. All right. No, no, no, no. All right. All right. All right. Right. So, so, so if you if you play with a bunch of dumb ass [ __ ] right? Right. And I’m asking you this, right, LM? You ever you ever seen a [ __ ] that was nice get on the court and them dumb ass [ __ ] magically become nice? Like he like he get on the court and [ __ ] is better, right? So my thing is, right, a [ __ ] can’t convince me Kade is better than Cam, right? Cuz if he’s so much and and this is just how I feel. I’m not arguing with you [ __ ] right? Because I’m gonna feel how I feel regardless. But if he’s so better than Cam, if he goes to the Nets with this current roster, the Nets should elevate higher than what Cam could take him because he’s better than Cam. If we go Let me So let me ask you this. So let me So let me ask you So let me ask you this. That’s how they go and you’re not the same. Let me ask you this. So, let me ask you this thing. You put Gil just on this team. Does Does this team get better? Abs [ __ ] lutely. Absolutely. Doesn’t do that though. So, that’s the difference. Do not LM another question. Hold question. Chat and Jaylen Williams. Why didn’t Shay Gil just make deep postseason runs? He was on the bench, my [ __ ] Remember it was Chris? No, he was not. Hold on. He was starting. He was starting. He was starting, though. I’m not You just asked me a question. You said, “Would he elevate? Would he elevate this next team over Cade?” I believe. Yes. [ __ ] I’m not You do know. You do know Shay was losing. Shay was losing too though, right? We’re not talking about We’re not talking about Shay back then. We’re talking about right now. back then. Hold on, Harlem. Again, let me ask you a question. Hold on. Let me ask the question again. This was the year the the year before they got checked and got jail. I’m not talking about that. We’re talking about currently. Stop telling me about years. That was just recent. Bro, I’m talking about right now. If you put Shay Gilchrist right now on this next team, bro, you smoking a special type of crack and he think he going to be this. Yo, bro. Listen again, bro. Right. again. LM, you can’t tell me that a [ __ ] is better than somebody and then hold up. Why didn’t he make Yo, bro, you know what you [ __ ] do, bro? When y’all lose arguments, y’all come up with different arguments. You already lost the argument, bro. That’s better. You lost what DJ is saying. Yo, bro, it’s not about it’s not about understanding. The [ __ ] lost the argument, so now he’s bringing up a new argument. You was on a bad team. Listen, look, when you when you argue a point, you listen to comprehend, not respond, right? So, if you’re listening to somebody, you got to listen to comprehend and get what they say. But you got to but you got to but you got to listen back, right? You’re telling me that Kade is better, right? So, if we’re going by your logic, LM, that Kade is better. How are you better? But you’re not elevating a team better than the [ __ ] guy that you’re saying he’s better than. That makes no sense, my [ __ ] So, let me ask you this. So, let me ask you this then. Let me ask you, bro. So, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. If you Which take take Cade off Detroit and take Cam Thomas off Brooklyn? Which roster is better? My nick. Okay. So, when you initially came into the conversation and you was like, “Yo, Harlem cutting me off.” I was cutting you off cuz I was trying to explain to you that I said if you put Cam on Detroit currently constructed. No, no, no, no. I’m not talking about that. I’m saying don’t add them nowhere. Don’t add them nowhere. Just take them off. Which team is better? Don’t add them nowhere. Which team is Okay. You just you just Which team is better? Exactly. Pitch is still better, right? Yo yo, I never Bro, I never said that they wasn’t better, bro. That’s what I said. I said they they was they had the better roster. That’s why I said before that’s just a testament to how atrocious this roster is. Bro, I never said the roster is not atrocious. DJ, when have you heard me say it’s not atrocious? I said at the beginning of You’re saying you put you But you’re saying you putting one player on this bad team, right? One player on this bad team and he’s elevating it so much. Yo, bro, these other dudes are going to turn into all that. Yo, bro, if you Yo, bro, do you listen to you and BK? Who? DJ, do you ever like run back? You’re just talking the talk, bro. You did not just hear what I just said. Yo, bro, I heard anything you said, dog. What did I just say? Repeat back what I just said. It was a bunch of [ __ ] That’s what you just said. But you speaking facts, though. That’s what you said. I heard, bro. No. No. It’s not that I’m speaking fact. I’m just speaking I’m just speaking logic. But you don’t you don’t think you don’t think the reason why look right we going to take it cuz he was hold it this way right cuz they was facing your team they was facing what they was facing your team in the first round right so we going to use them we facing your team so let’s use them as an example hold on facing your team so let’s use them as an example what we were saying the original question wasn’t even this so you going to use your use the Knicks as an example because that’s your team, right? So if if you take this Brooklyn roster, right, against the against the Knicks right now and put them in a seven game series, Knicks is spanking the Nets, right? Yeah. So, but if you going they going they took they took y’all to six, right? They took us to six. They had Kade. If you take him off, we smacking them, too. That’s the point though. They giving you First of all, it was a foul. They foul the [ __ ] out of them. Stop it. We smagging them regardless. Yo, yo, AP, listen. Yo. Yo, ACP, listen. Respectfully, bro. You not even Yo yo yo AP, respectfully, you not even valid to talk, bro, because you came up here. The Pippers almost took out a seven with no offensive. Yo, AP, you not credible to speak to me. You know why? Because you said the Lakers was going to win. They got smoked by Minnesota. You said the was going to beat the Knicks. They lost. You said you for three. You can’t talk to me, bro. You got the Wait. You said the Knicks was going to win the championship. What happened to that, bro? We did better than what [ __ ] expected us to do. No, you All right. Listen. I’m telling you what the move didn’t work. Yo, AP, what I’m Yo, AP, what I’m not going to let you do, I’m not going to let you come up here and be a John2. Don’t be that guy. Don’t be that guy. He did say, hold, he did say OKC was gonna win it all. So, you said it was going to be the Knicks. You said that it was going to be the Knicks. Be the Knicks and OKC. OKC. It’s all good. Yo, bro. But when they lost to the Pac [ __ ] when I tell Hold up. You said they was going to beat the Paces. They going to sweep them, [ __ ] But listen what I’m saying though. When they lost to the Paces, did I come up here? Did I come up here and make excuses? No. I came right up here. I feel Gary was right. Right. So, right. But did you [ __ ] give me the same gratitude? Y’all didn’t. Y’all [ __ ] came up here and gave every excuse when the Knicks won. I don’t want to hear it, bro. Y’all [ __ ] are sore losers. I’m not a sore loser. If I lose, I’ll come up. Yo, the Knicks lost. It’s all right, [ __ ] Now it’s a new year and I think we going to do better in the comments that hard. You really didn’t give credit to Tyrese Hallebertton during that time though, bro. Bro, give credit to Tyrese Holler for what? I gave credit to the Paces, [ __ ] It’s a team game. It’s not a one though, bro. When we Hold up. When he did the stream about the clutch shots he was hitting, you didn’t talk about it at all, bro. You was just like, “Oh, Jud.” Yo, bro. First of all, I don’t follow the Pacers or they content, my [ __ ] So, you act like I just purposely like I don’t follow You was watching Hold on. You was watching the games, right? I was watching the games, but I don’t watch the interviews, bro. I don’t even really watch the Knicks interviews. No, he talking about He talking about when you came on the stream after talking about the basketball game, bro. We’re not talking about interviews, bro. I did. I said, “Yo, he hit a good shot. The Knicks blew the game.” I did say that. What are you talking about? I did say that. I said the Knicks blew the [ __ ] game, [ __ ] And then I came up and I gave credit to Gary because Gary was the first [ __ ] to say that he thought the Pacers was gonna beat the Knicks. I said, “Yo, Gary, of course he did. He don’t like Muel Bridges. He always going to root against the Knicks as far as Muel.” Yo, bro, it’s not even that. That’s not even true because Gary That is true. Gary said it’s true. What are you talking about, bro? He said he don’t like Muel. He said, “Hold. Hold on. Hold on. Let me Let me ask Let me ask AP. AP’s been You’ve been listening for a while. What do you think about the topic? Uh, what up, man? To be honest with you, the Nets is stupid because if if a Cam Thomas signed a qualifying offer, you can’t trade him. You can’t trade him and you might lose them in free agency next year. So, I mean, what’s the point? You might as well like I I I don’t First of all, like the the contract the contract they offer was [ __ ] Like, at least if you gonna offer that Yeah. At least if you gonna offer that, give him a player option at the at that. You gave him a You gave it a team option, which is stupid. A two-year two-year deal with a team. He even have signed it though. AP might have Thomas, it wasn’t even about that. He wanted more money though. So would he have still signed it after? I don’t know. But but I’m not I’m not saying I’m saying that’s a slap in the That’s OD. Like you give him short money. That’s like a slim chance. Yeah. It’s just like, yo, bro, you not even giving him a a thought like, “All right, let me just do it. I can look at it, too. No, no other team. No other general manager, bro. You can’t get that [ __ ] You can’t get that [ __ ] First of all, why injured? Bro, you need to have a team option to protect itself. I mean, a player option to protect itself. You gave it a team option where the team could just cut him anytime. When have uh AP when have when have the the Nets front office ever like protected players, bro? Come on now. That’s they protect who they want to protect. Like Joe Harris and all the rest of these Patty Mills. Hold on. Joe Harris is like probably the best three-point shooter in the league, man. Yo, bro. Yo, they gave him that contact. They gave him that cont. He was like the top five shooter in the league. But let’s be real about one situation though, bro. You don’t do no role player, bro. No. First of all, no, you can’t. First of all, he couldn’t create his own shot. So, giving him that contract playing with Kevin Durant, James Harden, and here before he got here, he can’t create his shot. He was a three-point shooter, bro. We all remember this. That was the year before. That was right before the year. He won the three-point shooter without KD and Kyrie being here. He won the contest. So, give me Kyrie got here. He was already like two, three years into he was by the time he got here was putting the ball. Yo, AP, listen. Yo, AP, I’ve been thinking about this, right? I haven’t been on the stream in a few days and I’ve been thinking about this, right? And I gotta tell you something, my [ __ ] Right. And [ __ ] DJ and BK, my [ __ ] Language, language, language, language. Them guys I can’t them guys I can’t put them on but you AP yo my [ __ ] listen bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro bro it’s time for you to come home to Nick let me tell you let me tell you something let me tell you something the time listen let me tell you something the time I ever root for any other team but the Nets I would stop watching the NBA like that’s just how I am So you listen [ __ ] with the Giants in football. I would not AP listen to me AP. When the when the Knicks make it to the finals, I don’t need you to recruit me, bro. When the Knicks make it to the finals, first of all, let me let me tell you something. Hold on. Hold on. Let me just get this before you speak. When the Knicks make it to the finals, BK, hopefully you do a stream by then. But if you don’t, don’t worry. I got something cooking. I ain’t gonna tell y’all [ __ ] but I got something cooking. And if they make it a my [ __ ] they’re going to the finals. You better [ __ ] You can’t talk about the Nets. Oh, sorry. Sorry. You can’t talk about the Nets, bro, for a year. And you know what? once again. And if they don’t if they don’t win the championship who yo AP let me say this right you a logical think about it who logical person Orlando can really give him a run for their money though person you know who the Hulks traded for they got actually not talking about like hold on hold on hold on hold on we not talking about no the Hawks giving them like okay six games or something. We talking about actually beating. Listen, first of all, let me tell you something. We We discussed this, uh, DJ. The Knicks got a new coach. They got to They got to relearn every They got to run a new system. Yes. They got to run a new system. They not running the same system, bro. They got a whole training camp and all that other stuff, right? And you think you think it’s going to be one season they going to make it to the finals? Like, you think they defense the same? Let me ask you a question, bro. They figure it out. So AP, so let me ask you a question, right? On the team, bro. All right. All right. He’s a veteran. So let me ask you a question, AP. Right. So I’m sorry. Shout out to my [ __ ] Easy. Easy. You about to catch a straight bullet. He said the Hawks was gonna win the finals. He’s not incredibly sour, right? So scratch Easy, right? Shout out to my [ __ ] Easy though, right? So [ __ ] right? The Magic, they got better. I’m not gonna [ __ ] on the Magic. I think the Magic is good enough. So I I’m not in a match. They got better, but better. No, no. That doesn’t mean they already pack We already packed them [ __ ] up. We don’t give a [ __ ] about [ __ ] Boston. We packed them [ __ ] up. Packed them up, right? The only the only team that the Knicks really legitimately had to has to worry about is the Pacers. And we got better. So we would have packed them [ __ ] up. But how about you think you don’t think Cleveland going to run it back no more, bro? Cuz the Pac beat about Cleveland. What about them? I ain’t going to lie. I got I got Orlando sneaking y’all [ __ ] I ain’t going. First of all, first of all, wait. First of all, first of all, you don’t even know the Knicks going to be healthy all season. So that hold you been drinking John Kool-Aid, bro. I don’t know. That [ __ ] John put a spell on yourself. You thinking John Kool-Aid or something? You talking crazy right now, bro. He just in the NBA could happen. Hold on. Let me ask AP. So is Cam Thomas better than uh Yeah, we know you want to ask. You want to keep talking about these bumps? Uh, yeah. I think so. First of all, listen, let me tell y’all something. I said this in the comments. Jaylen Bronson was the nobody at 23. Nobody was talking about Jaylen Bronson. He was on the mass bench, not getting no playing minutes. Now, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yo, AP, can I ask you a question? This is just a logical question. Because you because you don’t play right, does that mean you’re a bum? No. Listen, I never said listen to what I’m saying. Hold on. I never said Jaylen Bronson is a bum. I’m just trying to make the point that Cam Thomas is actually good if you give him a chance around good players. That’s all I’m trying to say. No, no, I agree with you. No, nobody arguing it. I’ve been saying that. I remember when Bruss I know you remember that day when Russell was cooking the Clippers, bro. Listen, bro. He was cooking. I don’t I don’t I don’t think Listen, let me ask you a question. Right. If somebody’s ass, right? If somebody’s trash and you put a you put a player, right? All right. So DJ, um LM and BK think Kade is significantly better than Cam Thomas, right? I disagree with them. Right. If you All right. How much better How much better do they think he’s better than Cam Thomas? Is it like Let me just say this thing first. All right. They don’t think he’s a lot better, right? Cool. He’s a legit number one to them and they think Cam is nowhere on that level. Cool. Right. It’s obvious how much better you I disagree with that. Right. But here’s my question. A So I asked DJ, if you put Cade on the current Nets roster, how much better are they? He said the same record as what they was with Cam last year. Right? So here’s my question. If somebody is significantly better than another player, shouldn’t he elevate that team to a better record than what you’re saying that he’s way better than the other guy? Not necessarily. See now, okay, explain why. Now, uh I would say it’s about Kade. Kade is not like a like a winning type of player. Like he needs a team around him. He is better. I think he’s slightly better than Ken Thomas as skill-wise, but as far as him could create a winning culture and a winning team, nah, he’s not like a floor raiser like that. All right, cool. So if you put me just take to me then he’s not better than because if if you’re a bum right if you’re a bum and I get on a team and I’m significantly better than you right I should at least elevate them to a better record. It don’t have to be no wow [ __ ] like 10 or 12 but two or three games better. You can’t say, “Oh, you can’t go out. Hold on. Can I ask a question?” Can you honestly can Yeah. Go ahead. I’m just saying, can you honestly go in there into the gym, right, with these players in practice and be like, “Yo, I’m about to make this dude better.” You can’t No, this is No, this is the whole This is the whole issue with all of y’all. You can’t I’m not even talking about I’m talking about BK and all of y’all. This is the issue. Y’all keep talking about Cam Thomas doesn’t commute doesn’t commute to winning. Y keep saying Cam Thompson doesn’t commute to winning. There’s a lot of players that can’t commute to winning hold. But Cam Thomas wants to get paid 30 $40 million like he’s that guy though. But ap go out there and do something. Is uh a lot of players bring her not doing it. Not doing it. Wait, wait. So, so, so Camo did do it though. He was carrying that team. Wait, wait, wait. Cam want that money. BK, you don’t feel he can do it, right? So if Kane in your opinion is a legit number one and he’s getting paid 30 or 40 million and he go to Brooklyn and he can’t and he can’t elevate them to the playoffs or better than what Cam Thomas, you don’t think that he’s an epic failure? I think he gets them into the seventh and eighth seed though. Hell no. Nah nah not with this roster. He’s not Bro, he’s not he’s not significantly better. You He going to pass it through. Not going to make the shot. So they going to double team him and slap him every time. He’s going to draw. He’s going to draw in the man who n All right. And they not making the shot. BK. This is not the only shooter. Dudes can’t just go out there and just hit the shot because you want them to. So it’s back door like once K got hold. Same thing could be said about Cam, bro. Like this is end when LeBron when LeBron came in, right? Hold on. Cam’s not drawing a double team like that. Like K is, bro. Yes, he is, bro. You K get double more than that. No, I ain’t saying he get double. He don’t get double more. I’m just saying he drew a double team, too. But K if K draws the double team. All right, hold on. Hold up. If K drills the double to make the top, it’s kind of the same though because the reason why K gets doubled a lot during the games because he’s really the only offensive player out there. Exactly. He gonna be the only offensive player on the Nets. Who else going to be offensive? LeBron Jun. Hey yo, BK. When LeBron came into the league, when LeBron came in the league and did you know LeBron was like Michael Jordan be what he was? Yeah, we knew that. No, right. Yeah. That argument is Cam goes to the Wizards. The Wizards making the playoffs. Come on, my argument is just No, they not going to the first of all, the Wizards got a good squad already. So not reaching no playoffs, bro. CJ McCull saying they gonna be top seed. I said they going to be the AC maybe. I ain’t saying they top of let me say let me say first of all the East is weak. The East is weak. Hold on. Let me explain why I’m saying that though. The main the main reason is but listen, we know the Pistons roster is the Pistons roster is is better than than the Wizards roster. But if you if [ __ ] I don’t give a [ __ ] if you put Shay on on Washington. Washington got just a stupid argument. It depends on No, I’m not Listen, I’m not saying they’re going to be better than Detroit or anybody. I’m just saying. Let me say hold. I think K Cunningham is better than Shay. What? [ __ ] Nah. Yeah. Yeah. I ain’t going out. You think he better than the MVP? BKing, bro. BK, you know how BK? You [ __ ] with your whole You killed your whole argument, man. Hold on, BK. This is nasty. What? Cuz now now you got to make Now I got to defend the flopper. You know how I feel about Shay, bro. Shay is Shay is better than K for better. I don’t like when you seen it when a [ __ ] dunked on a little fat white kid. You seen that? Who? You ain’t see that when a [ __ ] shay dunked on a fat white kid. You ain’t see that? Nah, I know what you talking about. Listen. Wait. So BK, why do you think he better? What? What game? What game is better? He’s a better rebounder. That’s it. How’s he better, BK? He’s more physical. He’s bigger. He’s stronger. He could post up. Post up smaller. Man, knock it off, man. Go to sleep, BK. You like the same height. I’m talking about stronger physical. Physically strong. Say it. You’re not that strong. Is not physical at all. Yo, LM. Yo, [ __ ] play. All right, here’s the thing. When we compare players, right? If I was to say um if Kay cut here and goes to OKC, we could have a three or four hour debate on who who’s the offense going to be ran through, Kane or? Now, if I was to say take Cam Thomas and put him on OKC, he’s not even in the He’s not in the I got to do what what Cam Thomas got to do with uh with level and K was on on OKC, they would not make it to the finals. Yo, bro, if K was on Yo, bro, if K was on OKC team is good, bro. I don’t know. They were not. First of all, K. First of all, K is talented. You know why K is so talent I mean uh you know why Kent K would not be on Harlem. Yo, let me say Kane not draw not draw. First of all, Kane is not good with his body control like Shay is. So as far as that Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He’s a five bit. We know. We know. We know. And you think And you think uh you think what’s the name of push now? First of all, let me say you have if you have smaller guards, right? Like Kart, they damn near the same height. Your bodies are built. Yo, you came up with you think K220 brokess player, bro. He’s a finessed player, bro. Yo, AP Kade is not even top five point guard. Pack him up, [ __ ] He not top five. Next. Pack that [ __ ] up. He top 10 though. Top 10. But guess what? AP, you know who is top five though. AP. You know who I’mma say? Mama top five. Wait. Let me ask. Let me ask you this. BK. BK. Let me ask you this. Wait, wait, wait. Let me ask a question. Because Wait, wait, wait, wait. talking about hold the entire BK is K Yo BK is is K better than Jaylen Bronson negro no he is not a better than him now BK not he’s not better than Brunson God willing I’m watching more K cut C cutting hand than almost any other player in the league man he’s that Good, man. All right. So, you are you are so you saying hold on, hold on, hold on. You’re looking at Jaylen Brunson. Wait a minute. Let me finish. Let me finish. You’re looking at Jaylen Brunson. You’re looking at uh Shay Gills Alexander like, “Oh, these guys went to the finals, won the championship.” Look at the team that Jaylen Brunson has. Look at the team that Shay has compared to what Kay Cunningham has. I’m talking about straight talent. Yo, BK, let me say this to you, BK. Wait, wait, wait. BK, let me let me just let me just cook your argument. real real quick. Let me just let me just let me just cook your argument. Yo, I can’t do it. Me and me and Jamal went over there, right? OG Anobi right on Toronto. He wasn’t that good. So when you look at the Knicks team right what I’m what I’m what I’m saying is when you look at the Knicks No talking about now DJ what I’m saying is before he got to the Knicks he was better than Toronto he was [ __ ] OG was nice on Toronto what you mean right bro he wasn’t like he wasn’t like yo bro I get what you saying I get what you saying I get what you saying but he was he was he was Yeah, I think he got better defend. Bro, you got to listen to what BK said. He said if you look at the Knicks team, if you look at the Knicks team, bro, it’s not a [ __ ] juggernaut. That’s what I’m trying to tell you. [ __ ] you have OG, Muel Bridges, well, they well balanced, bro. They well balanced. All right. No, no, no. But say but say that but don’t make it seem like like Jaylen Brunson got so much more Hold on, bro. Don’t make it seem like he got so much more talent than Cave got. Cuz he don’t, bro. He got better. They got better. They got better talent than they got better. The Knicks got better. Let me ask you a question. Wait, wait, AP. Let me ask you a question. AP, can you defend the line? Wait, wait, wait. Go down the line, bro. Go down the line. Go point guard. Go point guard. Go small for you. You don’t even know who start for them. Bro, I do know who start for them. And if I tell you who start No, no, no, no. If I tell you go down the lineup, bro. Go down the line. If I tell you who start or you going to shut up? Go down the lineup, bro. You doing too much. Go down the line. Who better? All right. So, we going to go point guard. Who’s better? Dylan, why you steady trying to wait? Yo, bro, hold on. I just want you to shut the [ __ ] up. You talking too much, bro. Are you going to shut the [ __ ] up? Are you going to shut the name? Are you going to shut the [ __ ] up if I name him? Cuz I penalty. Just name him. Just wait. I’m I’m a name. All right, cool. So, you got Cade, you got Malik Beasley. No, no. Wait, wait, wait. No, no. Who’s better? No. We going We going first. Who’s better? I want to name Johnson. No, no. I want to name him so we just said we said go down the lineups, bro. Nah, we said match up the lineup. That’s what we doing now. Match them up. Match them up. The match up. Yeah, match them up. The Knicks versus the Pistons. The point guard position. So, so I got I got Brunson over Cade, right? Okay. We all agree. We all agree. We all agree. If you go if if you go Josh Hart, you can’t say Josh Hart definitively. No, no, no. Wait, wait. Go to shooting guard. Wait, wait, wait. Go to shooting guard now. Bro, Malik Beasley, you can’t say Josh not a shooting guard, [ __ ] [Music] Yo, first of all, Muel Bridges a shooting guard. [ __ ] says he ain’t good. You hypocrite me money. [Music] You don’t want to bet me money. Do you want to bet me money? And Josh is this guy begging for money. Josh is a small fort. Exactly. He not no shooting guard. Muel Bridges go [ __ ] Yo. Hey yo yo yo yo. Hold on. Wait. Wait. Yo. Yo. AP. I’m gonna give you a fact. Right. When the season started, my brother. Wait. No. No. No. Not when the season. No. Made the playoffs. The playoff. All right. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. I guess they played Detroit in the playoffs. So, what’s the starting lineup for the Josh Hard is a two guard. He’s a He’s a Oh my god. Thank you. Thank you. Shut the [ __ ] up. Y this man stupid, bro. What are you talking about? Y’all [ __ ] don’t know what [Applause] I mean. He may he may play a different position, but like here’s his Listen, I said against Detroit. What position did he start at? He y he’s talking about what was the line, not position. Yo, listen to what I’m talking. I’m not listening. Listen, listen. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Whatever, whatever. Let’s say we give you better. Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold up. All right, Josh is a shooting guard. He’s better than All right. Let me tell you the lineup. Okay, let me tell you the lineup. It was it was Josh Hart. It was MueL. It was um Anobi. And it was Hold on. Hold on. All right. Now go. All right. Let’s go to shooting guard. Is is is Josh better than Beasley? You can’t definitively say that. No, he’s not. He’s the best. He’s not, bro. He’s not, bro. All right. So, who? All right. Who’s for Who’s a small for the Pistons? Anybody know? Mel Bridges. Can you definitively say Muel Bridges is better than Tobias Paris? No, you can’t. No, he’s not. Tobias Harris wasn’t playing [ __ ] uh he was playing power for it, [ __ ] He was playing, bro. Bro, no. We’re just comparing. We’re comparing [ __ ] We comparing lineups, [ __ ] We comparing. So what I’m trying to say So what I’m saying to you again, you cannot definitively say, you cannot say Muel is definitively better than Tobias Harris. You cannot say that, bro. Tobias Harris was playing Thompson. Is he better than Thompson was playing small for [ __ ] Is he better than Assad Thompson? That [ __ ] is a tossup. That’s what I’m trying to say. Number wait. The only thing only bridges. Yo, yo, was this the same? Was this the same guys saying the Knicks were like unguardable? So good. Now that this rookie kid is better than Bridges, yo, somebody shaking the right. I said it’s a toss up. Yo, you’re not qualified to talk to me. You ain’t qualified. You don’t even know who you know. You said you said Thomas was boiling that came up Shut up. Shut up. Not qualified to talk to me. You’re not qualified to talk to me. You can’t talk to me, bro. Wait, [Music] wait, hold up. Chill, chill. Did you win the title? Hold on. Go to four. Go to four now. Go to four. The fours on the [ __ ] is OG. Okay. Who’s the Tobias Harris? The fool on the um Pistons. Who’s better? OG or Tobias? You guys need to start paying y’all [ __ ] bro. All this capping y’all be doing. Um right right right now. Maybe at this present moment. It could be OG. But like I said, bro, like it did it did go to six games and if Wait, hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Now, who’s the better? Now, let’s go to center. Let’s go to center. Who’s the best? Cat or [ __ ] for Cam Thomas. I ain’t going to lie. I ain’t going to lie. Cat might got it over Duran right now. Yeah, of course he got over Dur. Of course he better than Dur. Yeah. So, so my point is Harlem, the Knicks lineup is way better than the Pistons, [ __ ] It’s not It’s not way better. It’s better, [ __ ] But not way. You see you dragging it with the weight. It’s [ __ ] boots, man. Hold up. Hold up. I don’t think it’s way better. I’m with Harlem, though. I don’t think it’s way better, though. I don’t think it’s not way. It’s better, but it’s not way better. Y’all [ __ ] is wait. Don’t look at the Just look at the actual mere talent. The mere talent. The Knicks have better talent. You know, whether they show up or not, it’s a different thing. No, you know what’s the issue? Y knows they still got Wait, y’all know what’s the issue? First of all, the Pistons have a better bench. That’s why it seems closer. Now the top lineup, the Knicks is way better if you talking about top lineup. Now you talking about overall team. All right. The Pistons got a bench. So they might seem a little bit but hey, since when Tobias Harris was this good, he ain’t been that good since the Yo, listen. All right. He’s not that good. I don’t know why Harlem saying he’s good. He’s really not that good, bro. So AP, so let me say this, right? So out so outside of me and DJ, right? M the rest of you guys swear to God that everybody’s going to beat the Knicks again this year. So, you know what? I’m not even going to be a [ __ ] I’m not even gonna keep celebrating my victory over Boston. I just did that cuz John was getting on my [ __ ] nerve. But it all Detroit’s better than them. Listen. So AP leave. No, listen. You could stand on your toes. There’s nothing wrong with that. Listen. The Knicks is a good team. My thing is My thing is Wait, hold on. You said the Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Hold on. Let me say this. Hold on. Let me say this. Let me say this. Hold on. First. You said the Knicks is going to make it to the championship. So, of course, they got a good team. So for you to say the Pistons is is is like is is not like is is not that bad compared to the Knicks is kind of crazy. Listen, bro. Listen, bro. My faith it never wavers, right? John made a little comment right the other day, right? And like I told John, we’ll revisit this in April. Don’t worry, Johnny. April’s coming and we’ll be having the same discuss. Hey yo, listen. Mark my words. Today is August. What? AP August what? 10th 11th 12th the Knicks can break the curse curse. Yo AP AP I know you keep receipt think about it. It is August August 11th 2025 AP right. Mark my words if the New York Knicks make it to the NBA finals and the New York Knicks win the NBA finals and beat Hoops does a stream. I know. You know I know. Mark my words that if BK pull up, John will not come on this stream. Mark my words, bro. He’s not your nickname. You’re shaking about your nicks right now. It’s all good. Watch. Watch AP. He’s not He’s not AP. Watch what he’s going to do. He’s not going to get on the stream because he’s not going to want to give credit. You know what he’s going to do? Yo, bro, remember I’m telling you this AP. He’s gonna go to Breezy stream where you got Leaf screaming about absolutely nothing and they all got lucky and oh man, I guarantee you. Watch what I’m telling you, bro. Watch it happen. Watching duck you. So you saying he going to duck you? That’s what you said. I promise you he going to duck me. Who want to bet me money? He going to duck. Who want to bet money? He not going to come up here and give homage to the Knicks. He going to go to Breezy stream and they all going to cry about the [ __ ] got lucky. Priest Leaf. Watch. Yo, AP, watch what I tell you, bro. Remember I told you that if the Knicks win, remember I told you they all they did get lucky in Boston, man. Um, look look. These [ __ ] these [ __ ] don’t give credit for nothing, bro. These [ __ ] be just hating, bro. Yo, BK, why you hate the [ __ ] so much? What they do? [ __ ] be holding a lot better than the national a lot better than AP love love saying oh everybody try to say BK you stay trying to jump in for BK bro let him answer bro look he got I ain’t trying to save a guy go BK want to know why you hate the Knicks so much bro what is I don’t hate you know I’m on I respect them man I respect the Knicks I do you know you I look at Shawn Marks. I almost stop covering the Nets because of stam Shawn Marks, man. I’m like, you know what? I’mma start covering the damn Knicks now. Only because we told you to. Now I got it was last year’s last season. Hey yo, listen, bro. A lot of y a lot of y’all [ __ ] Sorry. A lot of y’all ducked when the Knicks won. Even AP duck. Listen, I was first of all, first of all, no. Remember, no remember I said they going to beat Detroit. I said everybody I was I was during the broken AP you actually you going to give you give the nicks credit. I said yeah I give them credit. They definitely be bro. Right. I’mma say this again. When the Knicks won, and I gotta pay Hammonds, when the Knicks won, the first person that reached out to me, and you know what, and I’mma keep it a buck because he was one of the main people like, “Yo, boss ain’t going to sweep them.” He like, “Boss ain’t going to sweep the Knicks.” When the Knicks won, the first person that reached out to me was player one. And I remember vividly the [ __ ] wrote me and was like, “Yo, Harlem, the Knicks won. You was right.” He was the first one. And then after him, Gary was like, “Yo, Harlem, congrat.” You feel me? The rest of you [ __ ] was hiding. All right. But you didn’t you didn’t give Gary credit when Gary said, “Now y’all going to lose in that series against the P.” Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. When Gary said, “Y’all going to lose in that series against the Pacers.” You said, “Hell no. We sweeping the paces. Nick.” And when we lost And when we lost, I reached out to Gary. I said, “Gary, congratulations.” You waited Gary to come on here to reach out. You ain’t like literally reach out to him, [ __ ] Like, yo, bro, congratulations. [ __ ] like, stop it, bro. Let me wrap this up. I got to get up in the morning, though, man. We know you want to wrap this up, bro. You always want to wrap up. It’s getting spicy, man. Like, damn. Yo, DJ, you right here want to wrap it up, right? Hold on. Hold on. Yo, Harlem, don’t come talking to me. I don’t have credit, right? Don’t come talking to me. Huh? What you talking about, bro? I don’t know what you’re talking about. I don’t got We don’t got credit to speak to you, right? So, don’t come true. Got credibility. Got credibility, right, bro? I said that [ __ ] like three hours ago, my [ __ ] I’m trying to like you came out of nowhere with that. I’m like, what? Bro, we talking about something totally different. This [ __ ] lie. Harlem need to be like a spokesman or something for the Nets, bro. The way he be Oh, man. [ __ ] [ __ ] be like C Thomas agent or something bro. All right, that’s different. You said Thomas the way, bro. Hold up. No, we ain’t going to get into no debate, bro. The way he talk about Cam, he need to be K’s agent or something, bro. Like the No. Yo, bro. I mean, the man talking about the man is not ass, bro. They don’t got they like you like when you talk about you when you talk about bam and [ __ ] [ __ ] we don’t say nothing you talk about bam right now I’ll be happy you talking about [ __ ] go to the [ __ ] what did I say no I’m just saying he not no he not no he not no floor razor all right so [ __ ] if you said if he had b [ __ ] if he had ben we still be ass [ __ ] Yeah, exactly. It’ll be better. It would be a lot better. But um is not no elite BAM is not no elite. Hold up. Bam is not no elite floor spacer. So they all going to do is pack the paint, [ __ ] He’s a way better. Hold up. He shot like 38%. [ __ ] he’s not. All right. How much shots per game? only like one per one per game. Nah, no, it wasn’t that much, bro. It wasn’t that many, man. Don’t do nothing, bro. Yo, great stream. I’mma try to must up the I got a lot more stuff to talk about tonight, man. Give me Cam Thomas and give me Bam out of bio, bro. Clax can go ahead. Nah, that’s not enough. That’s not enough. First of all, keep a no finals. First of all, Miami’s problem. Jammy’s problem is playing Bam at center. You need Bam at power forward. Power forward. What are you talking about? No. Uh, you said get rid of Claxton, [ __ ] If you get rid of Claxton, Bam playing center. You don’t need Claxton. You can get somebody else. All right. And who who you going to get? Dron. You better figure it out. Exactly. [ __ ] listen. Y got Claire Wear or whatever that [ __ ] name is the center and then you got the power for a band. N for a next next a next apocalypse. The problem is you still got Cat on your team. Um, you think Cat ain’t good, BK? N defensively, uh, I mean, he’s he’s like up and down. He could win you some games. I mean, ain’t nobody BK, nobody has a perfect team, though. Like, what team has man? I mean, you got to be consistent, you know? You can’t. All right. But, uh, I mean, but Chad is I mean, a liability. Like I mean who? No, I mean there’s time decision making, shot selection, not making the good right reads. Um, uh, you know, he there’s times he he he won them a some games, but there was times he lost him some games, too, man. He made a lot of mistakes. Okay. See, he was the perfect players kind of see how good they Yeah, the Rockets. Now that’s the team I think might win the chip. The Rockets if they stay. Hold on. Hold up. you think Rockets uh Minnesota who you think BK? Who you got in the West coming out the West? OKC again. I mean Denver, you got Denver. Denver’s a better uh uh perfect team, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I forgot about You think Denver is better? Hold on. Hold on. It’s possible AJ Deon, right? They they have a All right. But but we talking about this season coming up. Yeah. No, I’m saying for next Yeah. Yeah. No, this season. Yeah. I I would probably go with OKC again for the most part. Oh, you tripping, bro. First of all, you think I don’t like him? I don’t I don’t like him either, uh, DJ, but I’m just saying, you really think the NBA is going to allow I don’t know how they did it the first time, but you really think they going to allow him to get another ring in a row, bro? Nah, they not going to do that. Well, I mean, they got all these, bro. They not doing it. First of all, the Nuggets got better and the Nuggets took them to seven. Who who who says that OKC doesn’t get better, man? They don’t They didn’t make gain the actual experience. Like they gain the experience, but I mean they didn’t really do anything. You think they going to call all that foul on Shay uh next season? You think they changing that, bro? They not doing that again. They’re not going to give him that, bro. This season. Yeah. I ain’t going to lie, Adam Silver, he love that. So, you know, people love Shay. So, I mean, during the regular season, it might work. They were trying to promote. They was trying to make Shay the face of the league somewhat. They were trying um you know push him up there just I mean nobody’s really interested. I mean I just don’t think he has that type face bro. I hope it’s Ant-Man. Nah, he not he doesn’t want it. He doesn’t want it. Nah, he not ain’t no family man, bro. Hold up. Hold up. He’s not no family man, bro. They want a [ __ ] with a wife. They want a [ __ ] about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They want a [ __ ] with a wife or kids. They want somebody in a stable [ __ ] to represent the league. He doesn’t want to be the face of the league. He doesn’t want it. He said it was it was gonna be John and you know none of them [ __ ] A lot of people put him as the face. Bro, I got him as the face of the league. No, I mean theoretically, yeah, I get what you’re saying though, DJ, but it’s like the NBA is not going to like market him like that cuz he doesn’t really want it. Yeah. And plus, he’s in Minnesota anyway, so you know them [ __ ] ain’t going to really No, it don’t matter. You still can get commercials and everything. I mean, he had a commercial. Yeah, but imagine Ant has more commercials though. Think about it. Has more Hold on. Ant-Man has more commercials than Shay. I thought I was I mean Shay is an OKC. They’re trying. I mean, they say AJ They say AJ Deansa could be the next guy like uh to be the face. You think that BK? I think AJ just all athletic. We got to First of all, he ain’t playing college yet. I mean, he’s scared. But he played in college yet. He played against high school kids, bro. No, I mean I mean, from what he displayed, like in terms of ball handling, shot making. Um, uh, we’ll see if it translates. We’ll see if it translates into the NBA. You think you think Cooper flag is good, too? Um, yeah, for now, we’ll see. Cooper, I think he’s good, but he still got Yeah, we’ll see. Yo yo a let me bro when the win. Oh, you gotta echo Harlem. You gotta echo. Yeah, let me wrap it up. I’m about I’m be on tonight. Let me wrap this up. I gotta get some sleep, man. Um one last point. Final thoughts. Go ahead. Go ahead. Listen. Yeah. Go ahead. Boy, I got this. My final point. This my final point. All right. Let me say my point. You better. Let me say my final point. nice and clean. Let me say my final point. First of all, we can’t predict the future. If we was, we all be billionaires and millionaires. Second of all, uh, who knows who might win. I think I think the Rockets and the in the in OKC is going to be the finals for the West and I think it’s going to be um for the East. I’m not even cuz like KD has to be a like a Muel Bridges type of player, man. Hell no. Why? Yeah, man. Why can’t shoot? First of all, you see how many sinners they got? They got Capella. Wait, hold up. They got Capella. They got Shangon. And they got uh um what’s his [ __ ] name? Uh he’s the one I mean he’s the one that can space the floor out, man. So he has to sacrifice. They got floor spacers though, bro. What are you talking about? Who? [ __ ] [ __ ] Yeah, I mean Shangon shot 20% from three. I mean, if he if he was to shoot at least 33% from three, they win that Golden State series, you know, but he’s a he of going to punish they’re going to punish teams in the paint. They got [ __ ] three centers. But yeah, Jamar, we’ll see what happens. I mean, have regular season. Yeah, regular season. Yeah, I’m just more worried about in the playoffs, though, man. They got to get a pecking like a offensive identity who their offense is going to be ran through, you know. Um, we’ll see what happens with Houston, you know. I hope OKC lo in the first round, bro. So, who you got? Wait, so who you got going to the Western Conference Finals with OKC then? Uh, Big K. It could be Denver again. Yeah. Okay. I agree with that. It could be. It could be. I got the Warriors is done, bro. Jimmy is washed. Yeah. I don’t even know. First of all, I wish they trade Steph Curry just to give him like somebody [ __ ] trade him to [ __ ] to the Lakers, [ __ ] LeBron, you think Dallas Hold on, AP. You think Dallas was in a rage for how they traded away uh uh Luca? Imagine what the world Hey, you know what? I forgot about Dallas, too, man. They Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You’re right. You’re right. You just made up a good point. They gonna set the They gonna set the arena on fire. Yeah. I think Dallas might I think Dallas might Dallas could win the chip. Nah, I hope Dallas don’t win this thing. You got Cooper who could play defense, right? Uh AD and we’ll see how Kyrie looks and you got Lively. You got I like I hope the [ __ ] Yeah, I I agree with you there, DJ. Oh yeah, but they still got a look at their squad, [ __ ] They got a Clay Thompson. Forget the whole year. Nah, he not staying out the whole year. Yeah, he I hope now the Bucks. The Bucks. I think the Bucks might make it to the finals this season. To the Eastern Conference? No, my fault. East Eastern Conference finals. Eastern Conference finals. You don’t think so, bro? Y second option. The uh Oh, uh what’s his name? The center. Uh Turner. He’s a good player, man. He’s not a guy that you can like say, “Hey, um you know, shot clock 7 seconds, 8 seconds, go make a play or score. Like he’s not saying Miles Turner, bro. He disappeared. He actually said the second option, bro. In the last three games of the finals, he actually disappro. You go from Dame being your second option, who’s one of probably one of the best point guards ever. But Dane wasn’t Dane wasn’t matching up in with the bus. He wasn’t like he’s we wasn’t the same guy, bro. It’s fun to play with, bro. A dude that can only run and dunk. I mean, so I mean and right and that’s that you got Evan Turner. He could [ __ ] I mean I said Ev points on good finish. So I mean what can you say? Nah, he wasn’t. Look, you just say let me go. Let me go, man. All right. Like, comment, subscribe, share the stream. When you share back with you, peace. You ain’t winning another trip, [ __ ] This entire

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