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The sports you love. The teams you can’t live without. Get a sense of urgency. This is Jake Scott and Ben Anderson on 975 the KSL Sports Zone. Jake and Ben 975 the KSL Sports Zone. Nominate the you sports volunteer you know for the Hercules Hero of the Week. Submit your nomination at kslsports.com/contest and listen every Thursday afternoon to JJ and Alex for the winner. Help us celebrate the efforts of those volunteers making an impact with the Hercules Hero of the Week sponsored by Hercules First Federal Credit Union, not to mention Beehive Meals. I don’t really hold that over my daughter’s coach’s heads. I don’t do that. You could. I don’t know if my nomination would get them anywhere. Correct. Like I don’t really carry a whole lot of weight around here. You know what I mean? You definitely don’t. I definitely don’t. Yeah. If JJ did it. Yeah. Jeremiah Jensen. Yeah. The the TV star. Yeah. He gets whatever he wants. Me? They they’d say, “Who are you again?” Who? Oh, you’re the guy who says bozo a lot. Yeah. I’m not giving you anything. No. Jake. Jake Hatch. No. Jake Scott. I’ve gotten Ryan Hatch. That that happened to me at a party once, like a uh like a back not like a rave, like a backyard party kind of thing where somebody goes, “Uh, oh, you’re your name’s Jake. You work for uh KSL Sports Zone. Are you Jake Hatch?” And when I Yes, I am. And when I said, “No, that’s the other Jake. Great guy. Love Jake Hatch, but I’m Jake Scott.” The disappointment in his face of, “Oh, I thought I was meeting Jay Hatch.” was was evident. Do you ever get this? You we meet people, you know, like everyone you meet people and whatever. Uh and this is like in mutual friend relationships or whatever, just like friends through friends and they’re like, “Oh, what do you do?” Like, “I work in radio.” Like, “Oh, what what do you do?” I’m like, “I work for a sports radio station.” “Oh, cool. What’s your job?” I’m like, “I do a midday show.” The amount of times I get people look looking back at me like, “You do a sports radio show?” like you like I’m not capable of doing anything right in my life. I don’t know. Like they’re excited about the idea that somebody’s on the air and does a radio show. They always look at me and they’re like, “Oh, that’s not as cool as I thought it might be.” No, no, that people don’t believe I have the ability to do anything right. I think it’s the impression I give off. No, no, no. It’s I’ll tell you what it is. It’s like if somebody who was dressed all in goth, I mean all like pale white face, the the boots and the the trench coat and whatever, long black hair or whatever, came up to me and said, “I’m really into High School Musical.” I’d be like, “The choir director.” Yeah. No, you know what I mean? Yeah. It’s It’s like uh on the opposite. What are you saying about me? I think that’s exactly my point. What is What am I giving off? What? This this kabad crane like sports? Yeah. Okay. Is that what it is? What What is my like the the Yes, we were talking about how I might have uh RBF. I might have resting bozo face. So like what am I giving off that people are looking at me? No, it’s the shock. You are capable of dressing yourself and driving to work in the morning and holding down a job. Yeah. No, it’s here. I’ll give you another example. I’ve held down jobs for three years straight multiple times in my life. I’ve also lost those jobs. If Hance came up to me and said, “I was a football player. I played in the NFL for the course.” I’d be like, “Yeah, I get it.” Yeah. You’re 6’5. And if Lloyd came to me and said, “I played in the NFL.” I’d be like, “What does the NFL stand for? Did you Yeah. Which NFL? The National Forensic League?” Yeah. Nerf football league, which I am a member of the NFL. Oh, good. Yeah. Yeah. What are we talking about here? Does that mean you’re on a database? What’s the National Forensic League? Yeah. my blood and fingerprints. Another one of his madeup jobs. It’s not forensic. It’s a different uh It’s the thinking about that last night. Jake’s draft. I’m just the guy who’s in the CIA who doesn’t have any responsibilities, but I know all the secrets. No, it’s the You can’t draft that job. That’s not a real job. No, the National Forensic League is the National Speech and Debate Association. Oh, okay. So, if you were on the debate team in high school or college, then you’re a member of the National Forensic. Okay. You don’t have to knock on your neighbor’s doors and be like, “I just want you to know I’m in the National Forensic League.” No. Uhuh. What does that mean? No, it’s a different thing. Well, it’s a long story. No, differently. It’s really a misunderstanding. But no, you don’t uh you don’t look like Greg Gumble, you know, like however, and I mean this seriously Greg Gumble. However, uh people picture a sports broadcaster. Listen, I don’t fall into that mold either. No, you don’t. People are like, “This little kid in front of me is on the radio. Can you grow a beard?” No, I can’t. I cannot. You look like I don’t know what I look like I do for a living. Yeah, but it’s not this burger. You know what I mean? Yeah. Beach comr. I don’t know how people like You look like you run like one of those wheel up hot dog stands or like you sell popsicles near water somewhere just in one of those like two wheel carts. Not like a whole you you they wouldn’t trust you with a food truck, but just like one of the little cards with an umbrella on it because you like you’re wearing tie-dye when you’re out and about. You always have sunglasses on. You’re the guy who I imagine has like really thick white uh uh suntan lotion on your nose as soon as you leave the house. You Okay, I’m trying I’m trying to figure out how to say this without getting myself in trouble. I definitely look like somebody who wants to buy drugs because I have been out of nowhere offered approached approached and offered drugs more than the normal human. I got to imagine. Yeah. It’s never happened to me. Exactly. Like I’m just minding my own business doing absolutely nothing. And people come up to me. I got to unload this. You look like me drugs. It’s happened multiple times. You were you wearing tie-dye? I don’t remember. You probably were always tie and had the shaggy hair and stuff like that. When did that start? When did the tie-dye thing start? Oh, going back to like junior high because it’s very in now and it was in in the 90s, but there was a real lull in the early 2000s when nobody was wearing tie. I powered right on. Okay, good for you. Uh, so I I don’t know, maybe that’s it, but it has happened. I had to tell one person uh I was like, “No, man. I’m not going to buy drugs from like I’m not going to buy drugs period, but I’m not buying it from some stranger.” And I was out of town. I was I was in Chicago. It’s like some stranger in a strange city. No. Yeah. It’s a bad idea. No. Excuse. Has that ever happened to you, Christian? Lucky you. No. Yeah. See, it has not happened to me. Why do I look like that? That would be a thing for me. Okay. Maybe you’re hitting on it with the tie-dye. I don’t know. I don’t I don’t know what I was wearing at the time. I have no clue. But that has happened to me multiple times in my life. Once in front of my parents. Huh? I was in my 20s. We were in Hawaii and we were hiking on a trail and someone just came right up. Maybe that’s where it is. Maybe it’s where you’re congregating. Maybe it’s where you’re hanging out. Trails, concerts, back alleys. Yeah. Yeah. Outside of the dispensary. You’re like, I don’t have an idea. I can’t. No. This was Hey, Mr. People outside of the dispensary. All these uh all these episodes were definitely pre-dispensary. Okay. It hasn’t happened to me lately. Hey buddy. Yeah, people doing that. What did that say about me? Come here. Hey, dude. What? You know what your problem is? Stranger. You know what your problem is? You don’t have enough RBF. I’m too approachable. You’re very friendly. You’re so good in a group. Well, I’m taking that as a compliment. No, it is. You’re great. We I told you. We opened this door one time and John Huntsman was standing there. It’s like what a couple of answers away from being a president the president potentially and you guys struck up a conversation about the doors which a maybe you bringing up the doors over and over is why people are always offering you drugs but yeah you are you’re strike up a conversation guy which is a which is a good thing. It opens more doors than it closes but sometimes it opens the wrong door. The wrong door. That was the wrong door. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose. All right. Well, I just want to know like because I know what you’re experiencing. It’s because you’re not what people picture when you say, “Hey, I’m a sports radio bozo.” They’re picturing Dan Patrick or something. They’re just see me as a different type. And that’s not you. Yeah. That’s all that is. That’s why Tom Hackett, I’m sure, got a lot of weird looks where he said when he said I was a football player. Yeah. I was almost a Jet. What? Oh, I was in Jets camp for a while. You Winnipeg Jets. I could see you maybe being a hockey player. Christian, what does Ben look like he should do for a living? Painter. Painter. A painter. Like you’re pretty tall. Got long arms. Okay. Like you mean like interior? Yeah. Painting. Yeah. Okay. I could see that. A painter. That’s pretty good. I don’t know. I like Ben’s probably not a good painter. Not good at much. But you would be, I suppose. It’s too hard for me. Painting’s hard. Did you hear uh the DJ and PK had a college football analyst from Fox Sports on this morning? Uh you can check that out at DJ and PK’s uh podcast feed, but he basically said that the ACC is the third best conference because of RJ Young was his name because of Clemson and Florida State. that ACC was the third best conference because in recent memory they had done some things that are notable even though I would add that I don’t know how much Florida State has done but the rest of that league honestly and this is from an ACC fan is hot garbage. I mean so bad so bad. Just bad teams, bad programs. I mean, even programs that historically have been good like Virginia Tech or Miami have been bad in recent memory. I mean, it’s just a bad league. And I would say at least for the last two or three years, the only reason that Clemson has been in any conversation is because they can’t help but have a good record. Someone’s got to do it. Someone’s got to win those games. And if you’re slightly better than Boston College, apparently you’re going to win a lot of games. You know what I mean? Mhm. So I I disagreed with his take. However, I do think that his take is the norm. You think so? You think people think the ACC is better than the Big 12? I do because nobody pays attention to anything but the best team with the and their record in particular, not even how they got to that record, just that their record is 9 and0, 10-0, 11-0. And now in Clemson’s case, they rattled off two national championships, was it? They made several. I think they won two. So, I mean, they there was some incredible teams at at Clemson. But that does not make the league I I think the Big 12 is a way better league than the ACC. I do. And I feel pretty comfortable about making that statement because we follow it and watch it and there are six to 10 teams that are legit good in the league. If you’re not counting Notre Dame, which we’re not, they’re an independent. Um, Miami I don’t really ever buy in on. I get the talent, you know, I understand that. But yeah, I I don’t How many teams are you How many If you were to do a draft and you were to put all what are there 24 teams, 26 teams, whatever between these two teams, you take Clemson one. What do you do next? I mean, how many Big 12 teams before you take the second ACC team? Well, I honestly might take several unless you buy in Miami, which I get I or Florida State, which I don’t. Is Florida State good this year? Well, I’m more thinking they were undefeated. I mean, what was it? Two years ago where they’ve at least had some exactly what he’s talking about. Yeah. So, let’s see. Yeah, Clemson probably goes one. The problem with the Big 12 is the same problem that the Pack 12 had. They’ve got a bunch of decent teams that all come out in the wash. So, you never have somebody that’s 9 and0 in league. You have a champ that’s seven and two. But I’m probably taking teams three through 10 in the Big 12 over teams 3 through 10. Absolutely 100%. But the problem is is that 7-2 Big 12 champ might be just as good as 9-0 ACC champ, but everybody’s going to think the ACC champ is better simply because of the record where that might not be the case. I mean, BYU beat SMU last year. Kansas being capable of getting off the mat last year tells you everything you need to know. They had a crappy first part of the year and then they beat every concert uh conference contender in a row in November, right? October and November in the ACC. Um go UVA is never doing that. Yeah. Right. Wake Forest is never getting up off the mat and going to beat Clemson, Florida State, Miami, and whatever right in a row. That’s not that doesn’t happen in that league. I mean, last year in the in the Big 12, how many truly bad teams were there? And I I’d be really I’d be willing to throw out Utah. They weren’t a truly bad team last year. They had some stuff go against them, but it’s not like they got blown out of every game. How many truly bad teams were there? Even like Houston showed some life. Houston beat Kansas State and beat Utah and yeah, Kansas was good. So, I mean, the criteria for this discussion is ridiculous. Agreed. Because what constitutes a better league in the first place? I would say the SEC has made a big living off of being topheavy for a long time. Everybody talks about the gauntlet of the SEC. Not so. They have two or three teams that are absolutely out of this world in any particular year. Usually two rather than three. Then the rest of the league usually stinks. When is the last time Arkansas did anything? Oh man. Yeah. Of note, of real note, it’s been a while. We’ve talked about how Texas A&M always comes in with a lot of bluster and then never really is any good. When was the last time Missou was good? Even when they had who what was that guy’s name? Chase Daniel or whatever. They weren’t that great. Oklahoma’s going to be in for a long haul. just not going to be all that relevant in the have more to do with Oklahoma SEC actually because I I would argue that Oklahoma’s been a little wobbly for a while. Yeah, absolutely. And Venibals doesn’t look like that was a really great hire, at least my opinion. Yeah, he’s been up and down. Um Stinking got out of there like it was on fire. Yeah, he did. Clemson plays LSU early in the season. I’m just looking at this year. I think that’ll be interesting. Uh I want to see what Miami schedule looks like this year if they’ll get a test. They play Notre Dame right out of the gate, which is cool. That’s a good game. And they do play Florida in week four. So, we’ll have a we’ll have a decent sense of uh of Miami pretty early as well. I won’t be surprised if they split those games, maybe lose both. I think you could argue the Big 12 may. And who knows, especially if last year taught us anything. It’s who really knows. But they have more good teams than the Big 10. The Big 10’s super topheavy. I mean, is Indiana going to be good again? That’s the problem. Last year there was like Indiana and Illinois. They had some teams that broke through. But were they even good? Did they break through or were they beating up on bad teams? The rest of the league is just terrible. Yeah, it it is the problem though of having a healthy middle class in college football. It’s not good for your conference. The Exactly. The system does not reward that, which is a a shame. Which is weird because we do pretend to reward it with the SEC because we pretend that the mid-level SEC team is way better than the mid-level Big 12 team. And the recruiting rankings would say, “Yeah, probably.” But on the field, is that true? I don’t I don’t know. Pretend is the right word. Yeah. It really Yeah. It’s just a reputation. It is. Yeah. And so it actually it’s it’s silly for the sport if you play in a league that has more good teams and it actually works against you. That is silly. And the problem with committees making these selections is what do they value? And in college football, they cannot get away from the record. They cannot get away from the record and then when they have ties in the record or whatever, they settle the ties with the league. What league are you from? Right. Yeah. An undefeated ACC champion proves nothing. Nothing. Depending on what division, I guess. Did the Big 10 get rid of divisions? I always get so confused. But remember, for years the the division with Wisconsin and Nebraska and whatever was awful, awful. and all of the good teams, the two or three good teams are always in the other division. I it don’t know the way I’ve always been kind of a keep it small BCS kind of kind of a fan in a way because expanding the playoff I don’t know just went away from the value or what made college football valuable in uh in my opinion but where we’ve landed with this committee is silly. I don’t know. I don’t like the playoff at all. I don’t know. I don’t know how we get get away from it. I don’t think I don’t think it happens. But somebody who advocated for the playoff and thought I would like it, seeing what it’s done exactly like we’re talking about and what we’re now what we’re measuring are not actually things on the field at all last year. Which conference did you play in? SMU loses to BYU gets in over BYU. It’s just like, yeah, we’re just we’ve just lost it. I get it. Makes people money. SMU. At any point during last year, do you think this could be the national champion? No, of course not. Never. No. So, yeah. What are we doing? Right. Why do you have a ticket? And they probably selected SMU because they convinced themselves that the ACC was somehow better than the Big 12, even though you had a head-to-head example between the two teams. And it’ll be fun if either BYU or Utah or Utah State makes the playoff at some point. It’ll be exciting. It adds interest. I get it. It does have a bonus there. But again, I think we’ve we’ve watered down the rest of the product, unfortunately. I should never have told that what I look like story because look look at what I just got on the snap talk. Weirdly looks like you. Yeah. By our friend Wild Turkey Farpl sends in a a funny picture. Really looks like you. I shouldn’t have talked about that. Yeah. Well, that was too much. I think he used something to put your face on there. I think he did too. All right, stay tuned. We will have more coming up next. Less of that. Jake and Ben 975 the KSL Sports Zone. Your home for the best sports coverage in Utah. You’re listening to Jake Scott and Ben Anderson on 975 the KSL Sports Zone. Jake and Ben 975 the KSL Sports Zone. Jake Scott Ben Anderson. Speaking of Lagoon, I’m sure you’ve we’ve Googled this, but have you looked at the list of the bands back in the day that played at Lagoon? Amazing. It’s silly. It’s like the who’s who of music from like 1965 until 1973. It was a place to stop. It was a You would stay in Salt Lake and that was the place to play. So, and I I guess and somebody can correct me if this is fake news, but I guess it did was spearheaded kind of by the Beach Boys that the Beach Boys had a relationship with the owners of Lagoon and they kind of made it a stop. Initiated that initiated that trend. How crazy would that be though in today’s day and age? I mean, speaking of I’m so out of touch with music, but like Post Malone playing Lagoon, not because he’s a Cottonwood Heights resident, but because like Oh, this just where all the big X and not because he’s washed, but on top of his thing. Yeah, that’s pretty crazy. My mom has a story of I think they were watching the Beach Boys. I can’t remember who it was. They were watching and there’s this guy dancing next to her at Lagoon. She’s like, “This guy’s going nuts.” She turns, it was Jimmyi Hendris. Wow. Like cuz he was the next day, you know? It was like it was that level. It was just crazy. whatever it was he was passing through. It was like, “Oh, that was Jimmy. That was Hi, Jimmy.” But it was, to your point, it was a legit stop for for people to come through. Very cool. Cool history. I had somebody when I was out there tell me where the stage used to be and all that. Obviously, it’s it’s all totally different, but man, that I was reading the the history you and I were talking about that of the roller coaster there and how old it is. And it’s basically a historic site because it’s over a hundred years old and there’s only a few of those wood type roller coasters left on the planet. Yeah. And it rides like it. It does. You feel every bump. You feel every single every single bump. It’s part of the thrill. Yeah. You’re like, “This wooden structure, is it going to hold me?” Yeah. But let’s go back to those days, Ben. Let’s go back to those days when the big the big acts are uh stopping at Lagoon and playing with the White Tiger. Quickly from our friends at the Dez News, Dave Breubck, famous jazz musician, Louisie Armstrong, Everly Brothers, Johnny Cash, Ella Fitzgerald, Ray Charles, Beach Boys, The Doors. These are all people who performed multiple times. One-offs include the Stones, The Who, Jefferson Airplane, Janice, and Jimmyi Hendricks in 1968. Wow. Who would top your list of that list? I mean, Jimmy was just around for such a short period of time. Yeah. Seeing Jimmy would have been awesome. I’ve always wanted to see. You’ve seen the Rolling Stones? I have. I would have loved to have seen 1966 Rolling Stones. Yeah, that would have been unbelievable. Young, fresh Rolling Stones. Yeah. 1958 Johnny Cash. I bet that would have been very cool. Ray Charles. I bet Louisie Armstrong was great. Oh, man. I bet that guy could play. Duke Ellington. Yeah, I bet he could. Yeah, that guy that guy was uh I bet Janice was a a a real ride. Oh, I’m sure. Was she with Big Brother in the Holding Company? Just says Janice. Oh, just Jan during her 1968 during her brief solo run. Yeah, good article. That’s so cool. I charming part of uh Utah history. The headline, no surprise from the time. Doors offend Lagoon fans. I’m sure they did. Yeah, I bet he did. I’m sure that was kind of his thing. Yeah. Got arrested for that multiple times. Uh anyway, what a Yeah, like I said, what a uh a cool part of the history. Uh Ben, what are you going to have your eye on when the schedule comes out for the NBA in what, like a couple hours? Um yeah, 1:15. It is 1:15 according to the NBA’s communications. So that’s when it will be coming out. Um you know, the Jazz obviously aren’t playing Christmas. They are playing Halloween. That’s part of the uh uh inseason tournament games. Always curious about some of those. I I want to see, hence I’m wearing the hat today. Do the Jazz get any NBA on NBC games? And maybe not Sunday NBA on NBC. No, but do they get games on Peacock? Do they get games on Prime? What type of a market does Ace Bailey generate for you? That’s honestly what I’m looking forward to because the Jazz had one nationally televised game last year and it was the game that they thought Luca was going to make his Lakers debut and he did not. And so it was just an awkward Saturday afternoon game, right, or whatever. Well, I can’t remember. It was a weird game uh that was supposed to be on national TV and it was just a bust and I think the Jazz got beaten down by a Luca Lakers team. So, I’ll I’ll be curious about national TV games. Um, that does affect you because if it’s an 8:30 game or 8:00 game, that changes your schedule a little bit. But that has not been the case for a couple of years now. The Jazz have not been playing these 8:00 games because they’re not having to play after anyone and just start at seven. Not many of them. Yeah, not many of them. So that that’s honestly what I’m looking for. Prime, Peacock, ESPN. Do the Jazz have any games? And is it a weird number? Is it like five, a shockingly high number? Because Ace Bailey is a legit guy. He’s just like a He’s a real draw. The Jazz need if they want to thread the needle, which I don’t even know is possible. And that needle being try actually try and lose. Not try and lose, but actually try and lose and lose. Then they’ve got to have all their uh tough games up front pre-tank. You’ve got Washington, Charlotte pulling the plug, right? it. You have your really tough games right up front. Then you’re out of it. You don’t have any questions surrounding it. You can move into develop mode or whatever you want to call it. And you’re going to have injuries because there’s always injuries. And so if that if they are going to thread that needle, the last thing that they want is a hot start like three years ago or whatever because then you when you have to lose, you really have to try. We last year looked at it and it ended up being right. We looked at that first part of the schedule and we’re just like, “Oh man, this is I think I said the Jazz might have three wins by December.” Yeah. And I think they had four. Yeah. It was really bad. The Jazz were really really bad early in the season and it set the tone now. It was not fun for anybody. Uh, you know, and keep an eye on how Jazz fans feel about it. I’ll I’ll be curious because the Jazz are going to come out and try and win games early because they don’t want to feel like they did last year. But you’re right, they don’t want to be 11 and four and then be at the spot where halfway through the season once everyone says, “Okay, we actually got to suit up for the Jazz and playing Utah’s always hard. You got to pay attention to what’s going on.” Then the Jazz are 500 in mid December or early December. Then they’re like eight games or six games below 500 mid January and you’re like man you’re right there at seven or eight and you get leaked by one team in the lottery and your pick goes to OKC and then you really got to pull the E break which means Lowry sits or gets traded. Everyone sits everyone sits. You don’t want that either because that’s what the year’s about. So yeah, you’re right. You do kind of want the schedule that allows you to play really hard. Try Oxford and lose, right? not try and lose. I think you’re exactly right. If they get off to an 11 and4 start, then half the fan base are the tankote people who are belly aching about that they’re too good and then the other half of the fan base all of a sudden has these expectations like the rebuild’s over next stop playoffs and then is bummed when and then both camps are dissatisfied by the end of the season because the second half of the season the Jazz are going to be losing games if if that that’s the goal. I mean, if the goal is not to make the playoffs, if the goal is to thread the needle and get another draft pick, then yeah. And yeah, if they were in a spot where they were actually competing for the playoffs, which again is just not going to happen, then yes, I would see them continuing to push for it. But they would have to be like five games above 500 at the All-Star break. And the odds of that happening are zero. No, but worst case scenario is you’re 500 at the Allar Right. Which is what happened the first two years under Will Hardy. Yeah. which is where Will is still what I believe is probably a pretty good coach and when they have pulled the plug he knows how to lose and he lost all last year but when you’ve given him the green light and he’s had decent rosters and now both of those teams had much better rosters than what this team will enter with this year but he’s he’s been able to keep his teams in a spot to compete. That’s why I’m saying I don’t know if it’s possible to try and lose. I don’t I don’t think you can do that if that’s what they’re hoping to do. I don’t know how possible that is. Sure, you want to have Minnesota three of your four games in the first half of the year. You want to have OKC three of the four games in the first half of the year, you know, against these tough teams. And if they’re going to do that, they need to get drumed out of it at the beginning of the year. So, if the schedule does break like that, you’re saying the NBA the NBA is rigging AJ Debonsa to come to Salt Lake City? No. No. Jazz will pick fifth next year, but right outside of the guys, Jazz will pick fourth. So, you know, it’ll be erh uh what’s his name? Darren Peterson one, AJ2, Camboozer three, Jazz sliding into a fourth, whatever it’ll be. I’ve I’ve seen this I’ve seen this show before. The Jazz will pick seven or Oklahoma City will pick eight. I ninth luckily or ninth. Ninth luckily. Yeah. So, no, that’s what I’m looking for. uh couple couple difficult games early in the season or more difficult games early in the year and it was last year. It was really a a tough schedule. We know the Jazz will play Sacramento early in the season. I don’t think Sacramento is going to be good, but Sacramento should be better than the Jazz, right? You’ve got uh uh Dmar D Rozan, you’ve got Sabonis, you’ve got uh what’s the name who just got traded from uh the Bulls? Who’s their highf flyer? The D. Oh, um, the point guard totally from UCLA Lavine. Zack Lavine. I’ve totally checked out of basketball words names right now. Like that’s a better team than the Jazz have. I don’t think there’s any teams in the West that day one have a worse roster than the Jazz. Well, that depends on Does Nerkach come in sub 350? I hope not. He’s gonna dominate. He comes in at 315. Big Bosnia. Look out. Yeah, bring him in. just pushing guys around. Yeah. Well, the the idea is not the t the I where Utah becomes better than Sacramento is if the young pieces overachieve, which is kind of what the fans want to see while still losing games, which again is I don’t know if that’s possible. Yeah, I guess the sweet spot is overachieve. Ace Bailey and Walt Clayton are both good players and you win 25 games. That’s eight more than you got last year, which again, eight feels like a lot. Remember, the season’s really only 6 months long. Eight’s almost two more a month, which means one every other week. It’s not that crazy. And that starts to break up those eightgame losing streaks into a one and three, two and five as opposed to 1 and 12. And I think that actually would be something fans would glom on to especially if by the end of the year, Walt Clayton’s your starter, which by the way, I think is going to be the case. And Ace Bailey’s your starter. I think that’s going to be the case. and Walker’s your five and you have at least three of those five guys in place knowing that one of Taylor Hendricks or Kyle Filipowski is probably your starting power forward moving forward and you have like four of your five spots. Man, am I crazy to think though as the NBA has developed and how wacky it is and how who who knows who’s playing on any given night that any team that tries should go 500. There’s enough teams that are not trying that are booting games and then enough wacky games that that happen throughout the season. If that I think that’s the tricky part with this year, believe it or not, I think it’s winning too much. I mean, after watching what they had to go through to have as bad a record as they did last year, I don’t if they actually try and actually play their players, I think they’re sniffing. I think you can really easily get to 30 wins in the NBA. Like really easily. You have to try not to. That’s my point. Yeah. Which is what, you know, the Jazz under Will Hardy the first two years easily got to 30 wins. They would have gotten to Oh, they could have gotten to 40. They would have gotten to 40 if they would have kept the gas the the pedal down. Both those not traded Mike Connley or not traded Kelly Oolen or even just continue to play. Yeah, I agree with you. Um, yes, you could have probably gotten to 39, 40, 41 wins because every other team at that point has pulled the plug and then yeah, you’re not tanking games to the Clippers late in the season or I think they even won that game, but yeah, you know, the games the Jazz have tanked to lose late and you’re just picking up those easy wins where there’s five over the last two months of the season. Yeah, you easily get over 30 and if you’re at close to 500 at the All-Star break, you get to you get to 40. That’s how you turn to the Chicago Bulls, though, who are 39 and 43 every year, aren’t doing anything. Oh, I don’t disagree with that. Not Not in the slightest. I What I’m saying is if you’re going to thread the needle, try, and lose. I don’t know if that’s possible. I agree with that. I fully agree with that. You can’t try for 82 games and finish with 20 wins. I don’t think so. Yeah. Although, I guess New Orleans almost did. Well, there’s also incompetence, and that’s a little bit of a different conversation. Yeah. Washington last year kind of tried. They played their young guys for the most part. They still traded for There had to be a handshake deal with the Whiz and the Jazz that they were going to split that series. Do you remember that? The Whiz played the Whiz played their players in Washington. Did the Jazz split that series? And the Jazz played their players here. Did the Jazz not I thought the Jazz may have lost both of those. neither here nor there. Um, yeah, there there is also incompetence, but Washington last year won 18 games and for the most part played their guys that then again they did not play Marcus Smart and they were not playing Chris Middleton down the stretch. And if they wanted to play those veterans, they would have won more games. I don’t I think Malcolm Brogden was on that roster, right? They traded Danny Odia for him and he never I don’t think he played at all. No. So, you’re right. They had more vets they could have played. They never did. So, that’s going to be a tight needle. That’s all I’m saying. Or I’m totally with you. It’s going to be difficult to do. You’re right. They split those those games. So, yeah, it’ll be uh No, there’s going to be artificial losses still. There’s just going to be All right. Stay tuned. We wrap up the show. Coming up next, Jake and Ben 975 DKSL Sports Zone. What’s that? Whether it’s the Jazz, Utes, Cougars, or Aggies, these guys have got you covered. You’re locked on to Jake Scott and Ben Anderson. 1 2 3 on 975 KSL sports zone. [Music] My way to star. Oh my [Music] Jake and Ben. Hey, do you have a product you are passionate about and would like to have it endorsed by the Jake and Ben show? It’s simple. All you have to do is text JB to 57500 and our sales staff will take care of the rest. Again, JB to 575 if uh you want to sponsor the show. Uh and in all seriousness, uh we believe in the format. We believe in the show, the station. We’d love to get the word out about uh whatever it is you’re passionate about. JB to 575 Z00. There we go. So, we got there. When I pointed at you, I thought Ben was trying to say something. No, I was pointing you to play the drop. You want me to talk? The drop is Moneyball. Yes, Pete. When I point at you, uh, Ben, there’s a burger place in uh, Milwaukee called George Webb. George Webb restaurants. Okay. and they have a bit and the bit goes back to like the 40s. Uh but whenever the Brewers win 12 games in a row, they have a free burger day, free burger promotion and the Brewers won 12 in a row. It’s like the third time since like 1970 or something. Brewers are on fire. Um 30 games over 500. So here’s uh here’s the tweet that they put out there. They did it. You know what that means? Free George Web burgers are coming. We’re buzzing with excitement and working hard to prepare. Please note, burgers will not be ready right away. A special giveaway date will be announced tomorrow with all the details. Stay tuned. Well, Ben, some bozo actually didn’t even wait for the game to be over, but stormed over there to George Webb restaurants demanding his free burger. Okay. Demanding it. It’s time. They told him, “Nah, dude. It’s not ready. It’s not ready.” In fact, here’s a a tweet from This has got to be a reporter in Milwaukee who says, “Uh, we heard from George Webb tonight. They have ordered 25,000 pounds of meat and are expected to give away over 100,000 free burgers next week.” 100,000. Yeah. So, they’ve got to prepare. There’s not that many people in Milwaukee. Oh, man. I Free burgers, though. Seeing people go after free stuff, I’d 100% believe that true. Like 100% believe it. And there are burger eaters in Milwaukee, but you have to, you know, buy the materials and prepare for such an occasion. This guy storms right over there to George Web. They tell him, “No.” They say, “No, dude. Come back next week. We’d happy to give you a free burger.” You know what this guy this guy did? Called 911. Is this an emergency? called 911 to report to the cops that he was being denied a free burger from George Webb. This is like somebody that like the the free slushy day at 7-Eleven or whatever and if they run out a slushie because 10 million whatever 10 million people want to get a free whatever, you can’t call the cops. You can complain. I guess this was Popeye’s ran out of chicken one time. They were also doing a giveaway. I can’t remember what it was. Very famous viral video. It was the uh the chicken sandwich when it first came out. No, it was this was like 15 years ago. This was even this was one of the first like real YouTube videos. And uh the famous line is they’re out of chicken or there’s no more chicken. Like there are still chickens on the planet. To your point, we haven’t harvested them. We don’t have the raw material to feed everybody with the chickens. This place is probably like, “No, we’re excited to do the promotion. You know, we’re going to lose a ton of money on it, but we got a ton of pub. This is great. We’re We love the Brewers. We’re just not ready yet. We don’t have it. You’ve been in line for three days. We do not have it. I don’t think you can. Uh, it’s it that you know what that is? That’s like the people that call David James to complain about who CBS decides to put on the NFL that Sunday. I don’t understand how people like totally misunderstand how life works because they hear free and they their blood just like takes over everything. But you know what? I’ve been one to to utilize a free giveaway from a Jazz game that I’ve been covering. Chick-fil-A on the miss free throws or burgers for a tip off or whatever ad they were giving out. If I’m driving home, moment strikes, I think, oh yeah, get a little food. It’s not a bad deal. Here’s the whole news report of Popeye’s running out of chicken. Tonight, customers were clocking their disapproval. Customers at the drive-thru heard this recorded message. Sorry for the inconvenience, but we are all out of ticket and we are closed for the rest of the day. Thank you and have a blessed day. One woman yelled back at the machine. That people have kids and they trying to feed for the special and you mean to tell me that we can’t feed our kids because y’all didn’t order enough chicken? Y’all knew y’all was having a special almost 2 months ago and that’s wrong. But no one was listening. The Popeye’s on Lake Avenue was closed by dinner time. Are you kidding me? I think that’s bad cuz I’m sure hungry. No chicken. No chicken. Oh, they just had a chicken. I said I’m calling customer service now to see where there’s another Popeye’s at. They always run out of food. Sides, whether if it’s mashed potatoes and gravy, colel, they always run out of something. It’s very disappear. I wanted some chicken today. Other locations ran out of chicken, too. The $4.99 special too good to pass up. I just left Penfield Popeyes. They were out of chicken there, so I ran to the city to this one, and they’re out, too. This is ridiculous. They should have had a stockpile chicken for this day. They should had a tractor tail out back with extra chicken on ice, you know? Maybe it was the economy that caused the rush on chicken at their price in this day and age, you know? Well, that is a good deal. Isn’t that sad in this economy? People trying to spend money and they don’t want it. I was trying to feed my family tonight. Can’t get that bucket in now. Customers felt duped. I’m never coming back now. I’m serious. I’m done. They got to get their stuff together. You know, they put their advertisements on and then they don’t don’t show up for it. I’m more disappointed than angry. You know, we’ve been looking forward to this day. They advertised it on on national TV. How you going to run out of chicken? That’s all I have to say. Angry customers there, Papey. Okay. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I am totally on the side of the customer. Of course. Yes. Totally on the side of the customer. No. A If you have a great promotion, that involves two things. That involves marketing said promotion and then that involves delivering on said promotion. That that 100% is a thing in In the case of uh the Brewers, they’re preparing to deliver on the they’re going to deliver on the promotion. If these people showed up in Where is this? Rochester. Where did it say it was? New York somewhere. Rochester. If the if the promotion’s Wednesday and you show up Tuesday, that’s your fault. That’s what our Brewers guys doing. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, you’re right. Popeyes needs to deliver on Wednesday $4.99 for an Apiece. Absolutely. Smoking deal. And right a good promotion. You market it well. It’s a good deal. But then you have to deliver. Yeah. And some accountant somewhere for Popeye’s I’m sure is like we can afford to give away this much chicken and that is it. So that is what we’re going to buy. And the idea of a good promotion is maybe you lose money in the short term on the promotion, but man, all those people come back because they enjoyed your fine product, which I do like Popeye’s chicken. It is very good. Sandwich is as good as it gets. I can’t believe we don’t have a a Popeye’s in like Salt Lake proper. We have multiple in the valley. I remember when the only one here was at Hill Air Force Base, right? There’s one on on Redwood and 30th or whatever, but like there’s not one on there’s one right by Topco. Yeah, right. But it’s like where’s Give me State and 13th. What are we talking about? Top. I’m driving to Midvail. Midvail is not exactly like St. George, dude. Yeah, but it’s 72nd south and west of the freeway. Yeah, I’m not going out there. You could get there in eight minutes from here. I want four minutes. They’re out of chicken or there’s no more chicken. But I’m Chickens are extinct now. We’ve eaten all the chickens. I am on the side of the burger joint with Milwaukee Brewers Burgers. Uh George Webb restaurants. Good luck fulfilling on your uh great promotion. This George Webb guy is great advertising because I just want to eat a George Webb burger. I want to know. Yeah, I got to know what this is all about. You know what they’re doing is just going up to Wendy’s and being like, “We’re going to need a $100,000$100,000. Get a bunch of JBC’s. Get those junior bacons. I’m tacking a dollar on top of all of them.” I guess now you’re get them away. It’s trouble. No, this is a great promotion, but it’s going to cost him a fortune. Uh Hatch had the numbers uh earlier. They’ve given away in the like three times that this has hit, they’ve given away something like half a million dollars worth of burgers. So, this is an expensive promotion. This is a diehard Brewers fan, but this is the most attention George Webb restaurants is ever going to get. And you would imagine that they will make that up in the aggregate. Get the hook in them, right? Then you got to come back and get that web. It’s like all the Orioles fans drink that Natty B beer. Oh, is that a thing? Yeah. You could if you could get associated with the team in that way, all of a sudden you make a fortune. It’s like a Baja Blast in Taco Bell. Only place you could get it for a while was Taco Bell. They had exclusive rights to Mountain Dew Baja Blast and people liked it so much they would go to Taco Bell to get it. It’s good advertising. All of the What is What is What Baja Blast? Christian knows what Baja Blast is. Where could you only get it? There’s only one spot to get it. Is it Taco Bell? Yeah, Taco Bell. Is it a burrito? No, it’s Mountain Dew. It’s a flavor of Mountain Dew that kind of tastes like a battery. I don’t know exactly how to describe it, but uh it’s like a it’s a green flavored Mountain Dew, but normal Mountain Dew is also green flavored. Well, it’s turquoise. Yeah, it’s a turquoise. It’s aqua. Yeah, it’s kind of jade. Uh it’s a got a it just but it was the only place you could get it for a long time was at Taco Bell. And it was good and unique enough that people would be like, “Well, I got to I guess I’ll pick up bean and cheese burrito or whatever you get chalupa or whatever you got.” But yeah, it was the only place you could get Baja Blast for a while. So it was smart like your Labose beer or whatever you’re talking about at the at Orioles games. Now uh now if you are uh if you do run out of chicken, this gets back to my lagoon point on Monday. I know it’s painful, but you have to alert the line. You have to tell you got to put a sign out. You got to put a sign out or something. If you’re just telling everybody who pulls up to the drive-thru after they just waited 45 minutes to get the bad news, that is bad for your story was you went through the entire line for the new ride at Lagoon and you got into the inside and you waited for 45 minutes before anyone said like the lines we haven’t moved. You’re I didn’t know you were still in this room. You’re not supposed to be here. They didn’t tell anybody. It shut down the ride apparently for like an hour. Didn’t tell a soul. Yeah, they should be required to alert the line. You want to know the most offensive one I think that I’ve had? I went to I guess it was USANA at the time and it was pre like it was during a time at that venue when you had to pay for everything in cash. So obviously this was some time ago but they had one ATM. Yeah. And it was set up and there was a big line. It was like a just gonna bite the bullet. I got to get some more cash. Right. Get in line. taking forever and people you’ll take forever at the front and then they peel off and another person takes forever and then they peel. I finally get to the front. The ATM was broken. Nobody passed it back. Nobody. All those bozos walked out of line and nobody said, “Hey guys, guess what? You’re wasting your time. You’re totally wasting your time. This thing is broken.” Nobody did that. They all just walked away. It was so cruel. Yeah, that’s so cruel. It’s where the crowd has to take care of each other. Yeah, you gota a little heads up it back to the lagoon thing. They could have spread the word down the line, you know, easily like, “Hey, this thing’s broken. Uh, you stay or go at your own uh you know, whatever you want to do. Pass it along.” Yeah. Nothing. Nothing. So, anyway, shout out to this uh this restaurant and shout out to the Milwaukee Brewers who are apparently good. I got to see they’re not going to win it. They never win it. I always thought the Bruins were cool when I was younger because I love the logo and they always disappoint you. So, I’m not betting on them winning, but they will be better than the White Socks. Well, the White Socks drafted a guy with the third overall pick out of Cal named Andrew Vaughn, and he was the single biggest bust. He’s just an awful, awful baseball player. Just can’t ever I mean, doesn’t hit for average, doesn’t hit for power, nothing. White Socks trade him to the Brewers and are just like finally we’re off this bum. We like finally cut the cord to this guy and he has been on absolute fire in 30 games. He has like eight home runs. He just can’t he can’t not hit huge dingers every time he’s up at bat. It’s just the curse of the White Socks. So now I’m not even rooting for the Brewers because they’ve they’ve hurt my White Socks. What if the curse of the White Socks was something as simple as there’s like lead in the pipes and like they don’t feel good and the owner is too cheap to fix it? Well, we know he is. That’s what I’m saying. It’s Ryan’s dwarf. Like he goes somewhere else where he’s not being slowly lead poisoned and now all of a sudden he’s awesome. Yeah. Like why are something that simple? Yeah. Why are the A’s so lousy? It’s like well yeah actually there’s black mold everywhere. So everyone goes out with 80% of energy compared to the other team. They’re all slowly dying and then they get traded and goes somewhere that’s normal. air is fresh. They’re back to being baseball players. Yeah. Right. I was really good in college. It was like Randy Moss going to the Raiders who, interestingly enough, were in that same building. Toxic. Yeah, exactly. Right. It’s a little toxic and you leave and all of a sudden your energy is back. I’d buy it. You might be honest. Yeah. It could be something that simple like Rinorf is inadvertently poisoning all of his players and then they go somewhere else and they’re awesome. Lowry marketing. Yeah. Right. Chicago and Cleveland. We’re just like something’s wrong here. He was better in Cleveland than he was Chicago. Yeah, he was way better in Cleveland. Well, if Zack Lavine averages 30 next year, we’re gonna be like Jerry Rendorf is not something’s wrong in that building physically. Not not like culturally, but like black mold. Yeah. Spores. Yeah. Something something is going on. He hasn’t cleaned the air ducts since the 60s. I can see that. slowly poisoning players. That’s my theory. Well, that’s why you got to take care. And somebody probably came to him in the 80s and like you got to do something about this. And he’s like, “Oh, we can’t afford that, dude.” I you know, you’ve talked about this and we were hearing that, you know, the Jazz or the the Mammoth, I should say, wanted to have a really nice locker room for the opposing team to come in. So, when they were here, they made a really good impression and maybe would consider playing here one day. At least that was kind of the theory. If they come to Utah and they love their time here, maybe they would consider doing it long term because this is the first meeting you’re having with these people. This is your first chance to make a good impression. And you you wanted to do the opposite. You wanted to pump in spores. You wanted to get Yeah. the the air filter that’s actually the opposite that’s just making everybody sick that comes through the locker room. I don’t know what I ate in Utah, but it is killing me. Could be an edge. Yeah. But then it doesn’t travel with you. There’s only so many games you play at home. Didn’t work on Michael Jordan. Did not work on MJ. We once talked to that guy who was accused of poisoning MJ. He said he didn’t do it. What’s he gonna say? Yep. I poisoned Michael Jordan in the NBA finals. Hey, it was like 30 years later. So, you know, the statute of limitations got When would you feel comfortable coping to poisoning somebody? Well, I guess it was 20 years later. I don’t know. 20 years feels about right. It’s not just poisoning somebody, though. It’s poisoning. poisoning the most famous person on the planet right before the biggest game of the life. He didn’t die. It’s true. He didn’t perish. He just In fact, it got him more cred. The poisoning really backfired. Are you ready to cop to the hit and run that you did when you were 16 years old where you backed out of a driveway and hit someone’s car and never told anyone? Like, are you willing to cop to it now? No. You going to cop to poisoning Michael Jordan? Well, I never did that. Sure. Yeah. I never poisoned Michael Jordan. Uh, South Endzone for life. Snap talked to and he said, “Did Ben just complain about needing to set step foot on the west side of the freeway?” Yes, he did. I lived on the west side of the freeway. What are you talking about? He doesn’t do midvail. No, I’ve lived on the west side of the freeway. I’ve I lived in Rose Park. I enjoyed my time there. I did my I should say I did my time. Hey, what side of the freeway is that chicken restaurant on? West side. Oh, no. Okay. That’s how you know it’s good, though. We’ll just do We’ll just do KFC. is on the west side of the freeway. I would agree. I’m not the one who said it. I It’s the It’s the It’s the distance south. It’s not the distance west. Stay tuned. Hansen Scotty coming up next. We’ll talk to you tomorrow on the Jake and Ben show 975 the KSL Sports Zone.
Hour 2 of Jake & Ben on August 14, 2025
• Is the ACC a better Football Conference than the Big 12?
• Utah Jazz Schedule comes out today. How will the schedule make it easier or harder to achieve their goals?
• A Milwaukee Brewers fan called 911 because he didn’t get his free burger.
