Dillon Gabriel 1st start expectations, Quinshon Judkins legal update & Cavaliers schedule reaction

Dillon Gabriel 1st start expectations, Quinshon Judkins legal update & Cavaliers schedule reaction

Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Heat. Jay Crawford, Adam the Bull, Garrett Bush, Dustin Fox, Jason Lloyd, Tyus Powell, plusa da da da, you’re loving him, Mikey McNuggets, and So many big names, it would take me hours to say all of their names. The Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show starts now. Booyah. For the second time this morning, welcome into the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show. We sincerely apologize for the technical difficulties that has made us 46 minutes late here on a Friday. Big show to get into. We’re going to dive into it. But first, before we get into our topics, who’s our title sponsor? Yeah, guys, this episode is brought to you by Monarch Money. Take control of your finances with Monarch Money. Use code locked on NFL at monarchmoney.com for 50% off your first year. Before we dive into topics, I want to give my dad a shout out. He won his senior league volleyball tournament uh championship, their volleyball league. Second time in three years. So, shout out to my dad. Shout out to the Mammoth Rugby volleyball team. We’d love to give you more time, pops, we got a whole show to get to and not enough time to do it. So guys, let’s just dive into our first topic here. We’ll start with the Quinn Sean Judkins legal update. Last night, we learned that Broward County and the state attorney’s office has declined to press charges and move forward in their investigation against Quinn Sean Judkins for domestic violence, domestic assault. I forget what the exact terminology was on the case. Essentially, what the state attorney’s office said was the defendant had multiple opportunities to report prior to when she did, and there were some conflicting videos that showed her during the time span between when the alleged assault happened and when she actually reported it. That didn’t match up with the injuries and the initial pictures they got. So, they decided not to push forward in terms of the legal proceedings. However, the NFL is still investigating the situation, Jason, and there is no word yet when that investigation may be finished andor what Quinn Sean Judkins future is in the immediate aftermath for the Cleveland Browns. As it stands right now, he is still not signed. He is still not with the team. And I’m curious how what happened in Florida from the legal side impacts his current situation with the Browns. I would I I would believe that this would clear the way for him to Jason, put your mic on. It is on. Don’t you dare tell me we’re having audio issues. It’s on. Don’t you dare tell me we’re having audio issues right now. Can you hear me now? Are we good? Hello. I’m so sorry. I’m ready. G Bush in the building. Is daddy good? We good? All right. I’m hearing you G. All right. Cool. It’s just me. I’ll talk in the G’s mic. Yeah. Yeah. Get closer. bring the fourth mic out. So, we we’ll This is embarrassing. I’m sorry. We’ll continue to talk. Uh as So, G, what do you think about this Quinn Sean Judkins situation? Uh listen, I think this opens the door for him to to finally get back into the mix uh and at least get signed. Um I wouldn’t be doing jumping jacks because we all know how the NFL works. There’s always a a twotrack progress here. So, yes, the the uh legal stuff looks like they’re not going to, you know, bring any charges or do things like that, but that doesn’t necessarily acquit him of what the NFL is going to do in their investigation. So, we’ve seen this kind of with Deshun Watson. Um he he’s, you know, settled the cases outside of it. Um but yet and still the NFL came back and he he eventually got an 11 game suspension. So, um, you know, I I look at it as is something where now I think the Browns will be able to to start contract negotiations and and we’ll see where that leads. But I think what end of end ends up eventually happening is the league will start to to look at it if they have not already been investigating or coming up with their information from the whole process. And then, you know, they’re going to still handle um, you know, handle him as the NFL does in house and they’ll do their own investigation. McNuggets, you look at the Mike Hall situation last year, those charges were dropped. He still got suspended a few games. Deshun Watson never got charged officially like never criminally indicted and he obviously got suspended six games then 11 games. So just because Florida and Broward County and the state attorney’s office isn’t going forward in their criminal investigation, it does not take Quinn Sean Judkins off the hook from potential punishment from the NFL. There’s kind of a standard and a precedent set that if the NFL has a less burden of proof, they can still make a suspension. Jason, I think that’s what you were going to say. Yeah. The NFL can still do whatever it wants to do. And the NFL can still they the NFL isn’t tied to the US Constitution and the laws that we have in place, they can sort of make it up as they go along. And if they feel like something happened, they can still they can still suspend him. I do think regardless, the fact that there is not going to be further legal action taken against Quinn Sean expedites the process to get him back into the building because Cleveland said we weren’t going to sign him. We’re not going to touch this situation until his legal issues were resolved. Now at least that half of it’s resolved. They can bring him in. I hope sooner rather than later. Get him back acclimated into their training program. get him back acclimated into the playbook because regardless of whether he gets suspended or not, whenever he does get on the field for the Cleveland Browns, I think we’re all in agreement. He’s going to be their workhorse. He’s going to be their bellcow back and it’s an offense that needs as much juice as it can possibly get. What’s the fallout from this? how quickly I I don’t I think there are some people moving around um and and people that are kind of kind of t like you know kind of tired of the you know just the the stories with with you know domestic violence and just off the field issues. How long does this linger with fans? Is this something where he comes out if he plays and he plays well they they’re like, “Oh, what what happened with that?” Or is this something that he’s that could stick with him for a longer period of time? I mean, it always comes down to how well you play. How well you play is how quickly you’re forgiven. It’s not necessarily the way it should be, but that’s just the reality of how it is. When you play well, nobody cares. Listen, if another player had the allegations against Deshawn and they weren’t a superstar quarterback at the time, they’re not getting a $230 million contract. They’re not getting traded for three first round picks. They’re probably never playing in the NFL again. Yeah. I the the the you know, the talent level is always going to put you in a position where especially where you’re the Cleveland Browns where you’re devoid of talent and you’re trying to win. And I always I always that always gets me like in regular jobs. Yeah. Like you you can find somebody in accounting. Yeah. Regular jobs. Hey, listen. You’re working operations. Like I could get somebody with that. But when you talk about the tippy top 1% and my job is is is based on performance and what we do. It’s very difficult for for general managers and coaches not to say, “Well, I listen. I I I want to put him on the field. I I have to because that’s that’s what I’m that’s my standard. That’s the burden that I have to be a coach or GM. So, you know, it’s disappointing sometimes to hear it, but at the end of the day, that’s just it’s it is what it is. And had Deshawn played well, there wouldn’t be nearly the vitriol against him. Nope. But had Cleveland gotten the Houston version, the healthy version, had he lived up to what the expectations were, there wouldn’t be nearly the amount of animosity against him as what there is now. We got to get to a lot of stuff in not a lot of time today. So, we’re going to move on after I ask you guys this question. Quinn Sean still not signed by the Monday of the first actual week of the season. So, the Monday after uh Labor Day, will Quinn Shawn have signed his contract and be in the building with the Browns? Yes or no? By Labor Day. Yeah. Yeah. I think he will. Yeah. This clears the this clears the path. I also think that u he’ll have some sort of suspension by Labor Day as well. soon as he signs the deal, I think the league will start to to move the wheels on that a little bit. All in agreement. And let’s get a read in before we move on to our next topic. Yeah, guys, I want to remind want to remind everybody that this episode is presented by Yahoo Fantasy. Fantasy football is back. Fire up the group chat and get your draft board ready and buckle up for a season filled with breakouts, bus, and all the overreactions that we live for. It’s all going down on Yahoo Fantasy. This year, UCSS is back on Yahoo Fantasy, and you should be, too. Whether you’re a first-time or a veteran, making it your millionth league, Yahoo Fantasy’s user interface is my favorite. I love it more than all the other fantasy apps. And to celebrate 28 years of fantasy greatness, Yahoo is dropping 28 big new features over 28 days, giving you more ways to play, more ways to draft, and more ways to win. And it all begins on August 4th. So stay tuned and get started by creating or joining a Yahoo Fantasy Football League at yahoofantasy.com/lockdown NFL. That’s yahoo fantasy.com/lockdown NFL. and let’s make this fantasy season the best one yet. So, a few minutes after the Quinn Sean Judkins news came out yesterday, Adam Shfter popped up on all of our Twitter feeds and said undrafted free agent wide receiver Isaiah Bond had been no build in his sexual assault case going back to Texas. Bond, if you guys remember, was a highly touted prospect coming out of Texas. Most draft analysts had him with a top 100 grade. these sexual assault charges came up about two two and a half weeks before the draft. He ends up going undrafted and then just moments later, Bond put out a statement by himself on social media thanking the Cleveland Browns, thanking Jimmy Hasslam, thanking Andrew Barry, and essentially announced he was signing with the Cleveland Browns. Now, Mary Kay and other reporters have said he has not officially signed, but if you were to read that letter that you see on the screen, I know it’s in tiny font and it’s really small. He literally calls out the Browns, thanks Mr. Hasslam, thanks Andrew Barry for their patience and their understanding with the situation. So, all indications are that he will sign with the Browns. G Bush, I know Bond was a guy you had uh quite some interest in pre-draft. We had a topic on would you draft him with these concerns and you were the only one at the time that said give me the best players on the field and he would have been one of the best guys in the round if the Browns went you said third round but in hindsight now he’s officially been no build that means no charges are coming. Are you a fan of this move? Look um I I always I always tell people like this there’s a there’s a process in the National Football League where they’re going to look at your your merits on whatever you do off the field. There’s a process in the in the United States of America where they’re going to look at your the merits of a a case and see whether or not they can indict you or bring any charges. Um where he was at, they decided not to bring any charges just like Quinn Sean Juckkins. Um the NFL has a different burden of proof and so they’ll probably investigate him, look at what happened in the case and they’ll extrapolate and decide whether they’re going to give him a suspension or not. Uh, in terms of the optics of it, I mean, yeah, it’s not it’s it’s kind of I was just laughing and joking about it because, you know, at the end of the day, we want to talk about football. So, you know, I try to keep it as light-hearted as possible in a situation where it’s kind of serious. But, it was almost like the Browns was like, “Listen, well, they let Juckkins off. So, I mean, we going they might we might get killed for this for a couple of days. we might as well go ahead and sneak this other joint right under the under the under the rug and just had to kick kill two birds with one stone. Like, let’s just go ahead and make a move. And for me, this is just how it and I want to just tell people the NFL has signified something. Let me just tell y’all something right now. The NFL has signified something that says if you are looking for us to be your moral compass, this is not the place to be because we are going to show you that we are in this as to win and we want the best players. If you’re not if you didn’t if they didn’t convict you, if they didn’t if they not if you ain’t going to jail, I’ll tell you like this. Somebody is going to sign Henry Rugs. I’mma just let y’all know right now. And and unfortunately in the Henry Rug situation, somebody lost their life. Yeah. You see what I’m saying? You can’t come back from that. So when when we watch these things take place and there’s gambling going over here and then there’s there’s domestic violence, I always tell people and I I always try to let them know, listen, guys, that ain’t this ain’t the the the pantheon in which you want to just get your role models from. this isn’t where you want to, you know, take your moral stance because at the end of the day, this is a stone cold business. I I look at what happened to Nick Chub. Nick Chub ain’t never did nothing to nobody. He couldn’t play no more. And in their eyes, he’s on to another team. This is just what the thing is. And at the end of the day, Browns made a decision. They because they have no receivers and he’s fast. He was going to be a mid-round pick. And guess what? They saw the value. They took him. Jason the the Browns. Jimmy Hasslam has tried to spend his way to a championship four years. Can we agree on that? Yes. Nobody spends more. Nobody wants to win more than Jimmy Hasslam. But the Browns have a culture problem. Can we agree on that? Oh, yeah. This is why this is why they have a culture problem. Because they keep doing stuff like this. There’s a mark against him, against Isaiah, regardless of what he did or didn’t do. There’s a mark against him. And if he is innocent, then I feel sorry for him. But the Browns cashed all their chips in on Deshawn, and they got no return on it. The Browns keep selling their credibility, and they keep selling their soul on junk bonds, and this is what you get. So, what has been for all these chances they’ve taken on guys, what’s been the payoff for it? Where’s the big benefit been? Josh Gordon, what’d you get out of it? One year. Great season. One year. Kareem Hunt, he for the most part, he kept himself in line after he got here. But did he have a major impact on winning when he was here? Really? Did he? He helped, but he’s not the main reason. He had a couple like Freddy Kitchens actually did the best job figuring how to use Nick Chub. The run game the run game was pretty dynamic when he was here. He was But I to I guess to your point is they didn’t win no Super Bowl. Did he impact winning at a high level? They didn’t win no Super Bowl. So, what have they gotten for all of these chances? There are franchises who have earned the right to take chances on guys with a checkered past. The Browns are not one of them. Baltimore is one of them. I mean, yeah. B, there are the Patriots back when Tom was there. There are franchises who when they elevate themselves to a certain level, when they win at a certain level, when they act like adults, when they are professionals about how they go about doing their business, you earn the opportunity to take advantage on maybe one or two guys with a checkered past. The Browns just take them all. And what has been the payoff? And I guess like I’m a little annoyed because I turned my head on the Deshawn thing against all the allegations against him because I understood why they did it. I’ve said it a hundred times. They needed a franchise quarterback. They didn’t think the one they had was good enough. They saw an opportunity to go out and get get a guy who never becomes available and they said, “We’re going to go for it.” And they gave up the house, the farm, the cars. They gave up all of it. And it blew up in their face. And when you sell your soul so many times, you get nothing to show for it. It’s like, why are we doing this? Why? And you put your fans in a terrible position of having to choose. And they don’t care. They don’t care. if they cared. I’m pro-dome. I think the dome’s a great idea. Dehasm came out and said, “We want to do what’s in the best interest of the fans.” If you want to do what’s in the best interest of the fans, why didn’t you put it on the ballot? Why didn’t you give the fans a voice in this? Because you knew it was going to fail and you did it anyway. And that’s the that’s the problem I have. That’s the frustration that I have with it is they keep doing this over and over and over. This is why they have a culture problem because they keep taking chances on guys like this and they never get the payoff for it because they are not an organization that is built or able to withstand it. And so they just keep doing this over and over and over again. Had they hit on some of these receivers that they’ve drafted and that they’ve traded for over the years, they wouldn’t have to do this. But because they keep missing in the draft, they have to take chances like this. And I don’t put this on Barry. This is Jimmy Hasslam. This is your organization. What are you going to stand for? What are you going to stand for? You’ve already shown what you’ve stood for. And by the way, all the women who work for you, you’ve now put them in another uncomfortable position. And there’s a lot of them and now they have to go through this all over again. I have a couple thoughts on this and I’m not sure I go as far as you or as opposite end G. I look at it as if the Browns were worried about losing fans due to them signing players with questionable pasts. Anyone who hadn’t left after Deshaawn Watson, they’re here forever. Like they’re they’re not leaving. Nothing’s going to change that. So I I use the analogy before the show. If you’re gonna cheat on your diet, don’t have a munchkin. Yeah. Go to Mitchells and get a damn go all the way in. Don’t have a little nibble of a piece of pizza. Eat the whole damn pie. If you’re okay as an organization with the allegations from Deshawn and what happened with Mike Hall and even before with Malik McDow and some of the other guys, Perion Winfrey, all these characters that have had issues and runins, domestic violence, domestic assault, all that stuff, then Isaiah Bond’s not changing anyone’s opinion. An undrafted free agent who I don’t even know all the details of the case. I’m not going to pretend to know. Got no build in a situation like that. They’re just at this point they’re just saying screw it. We need players. What cures all that? Winning. If this guy can turn into a good player, everyone will forget the past. My issue more with anything else is I don’t think Isaiah Bond’s that good, guys. I know he had a top 100ish draft grade, but this was the guy that after Alabama lost to Michigan in the college football playoff two years ago, asked Nick Sabin for a raise the day after that game. And you know what Nick Sabin did three days later? Retired. He never named Isaiah Bond as the player that led him to say this just isn’t for me anymore. But you could add the pieces together. I’m not sure if it’s exactly that plus that 1 plus one equal two. But it certainly doesn’t help. He went to Texas expected to be was one of the top transfers in the entire country. He was their third receiver. He was fine. He put up decent numbers. He’s fast as hell. Ran a 43940. Like dude could run. He’s got questionable hands. Not a great catch radius. He’s a little undized. I didn’t love him as a prospect. I don’t necessarily love taking the flyer on this, but I also understand why the Browns are doing it because they’re just throwing their hands up and saying I we’ve already dipped their toes in. That’s what I said after Deshawn. That’s exactly what I said. I understand why they did it because they didn’t have a quarterback that they believed in and they and where did it get them? I I look at it like this. I I I’m guess I’m a little more cynical at this point. Like there is no I I tell this to to people all the time. Um nowadays where we are in society we are entrenched in whatever tribe we are in it don’t m it goes down the line when you put colors on and jerseys on it is and and I understand what Jason is saying because this becomes your identity that’s why people get upset because they’re saying I don’t morally agree with that but you’re doing something that is is opposite of what I believe in but when I put the browns colors on I believe this is me. This is my identity. It’s part of my collective group. Uh how we think our ideology. But at this point, I think that the NFL and and and business owners in exactly what they are. Um they’ve come up with and understand that it doesn’t matter if that is your ideology and that is your new religion and and you will support your team through come hell or high water. They came up and finally realized that it doesn’t matter where the names go. The names, the names come, they come and go, but the colors and the city and where you at, it stays forever. So everything is a shortterm answer. So if they say, “Okay, we might take a couple hits in the summertime, but guess what? When these when these games come on, how many packages is they going to drop? How many jerseys is we not going to sell?” Right? We got like they’re not we we are who we are. Like yeah, we miss Nick Chub and we miss other people, but guess what? They made the decision that this is a business and more than anything they we appeal to people’s need, want, and willingness to win at all costs. And that is the calculus. If Isaiah Bond goes out and becomes a thousand yard receiver and a legitimate weapon for the Browns, no one is going to care what happened in his prejack. That’s exactly right. It’s exactly what we just talked about with Deshawn 10 minutes ago, 15 minutes. And if he doesn’t and he pan and he doesn’t pan out and never turns into a player, it’s going to be another black mark on the Browns front. And I’m not putting it just on Barry. It’s on the entire front office. Ownership on down to the lowest person in the front office. Another black mark on a guy that they try and took a swing on and frankly missed. And then we could go back and say, was the juice really juice really worth the squeeze when we first made the move? And so far, to your point earlier, Jason, they haven’t hit on any of these guys. Perion Winfrey, Malik McDow, Deshawn, Mike Hall is too early to Mike Hall. Yeah. When Jean Judkins at this point, yeah, he could turn out to be really good, but there’s no return from that yet either. Even with Judkins and Hall, they were here before. I put them in a separate category because they had drafted them and then they get in trouble and and whatever. When you actively pursue guys who have these marks against but Hall had them coming out of college. Judkins had the clean. He had a sketchy past, but the one that I mean the incident that we all are referring to from last year, at least he was already in the building. Yeah, you took a chance on him, but nothing in his past had escalated to the level of what we saw wind up in court last year. And same thing with Judkins where you take the guy and then this happens. Okay, well now what do you do? He’s already in the building. When you pursue the guys who have these marks against them and you invite them in and you don’t get a return on that, what are we doing here? And they keep doing it over and over and over again. You know what’s crazy? Before we move on, if on March 15th, a month before the draft, I told any Browns fan that by the end of the draft, the Browns were going to end up with Mason Graham, Shador Sanders, Quinn Sean Judkins, Isaiah Bond, Carson Schwessinger, Harold Fannon, and Dylan Samson. We would have said absolute home run, slam dunk, hole in one. You make all the stupid sports analogies you want that aren’t football. Touchdown. Yeah, that is a grand win. And I even mentioned the quarterback they took before Shador Sanders. By the way, how they got there is certainly a lot different than how I love their draft. Like we we did the re re regrade the draft, you know, after the the Judkins thing. My grade didn’t change. I thought it was a great draft. I I just think this is completely unnecessary. Yes, their re receiver room is lacking. That’s your own fault because you can’t draft and you can’t develop. By the way, Deontay Johnson apparently has fallen off a cliff in the last two weeks of camp and is in I think legit in jeopardy of not making this roster. Hey, listen, man. I I will say this. There’s always if if those guys turn out to be good, it don’t matter. It’s funny. It it go from the worst to people saying this is the draft that got people extensions. Mhm. It’s crazy. I’ve never seen that much give between it’s is fascinating. We’ll see. All right, we got to talk about another rookie. But first, you got to read for us. Yeah, guys, August 26 is officially FanDuel’s futures day. A brand new holiday for football fans who live for bold predictions and preseason hunches. For 24 hours, FanDuel is giving you deals on NFL season predictions. So whether you’re calling for your MVP, eyeing a long shot division winner, or ready to crown your Super Bowl champion before week one even kicks off, this is your moment. So go take a flyer on the MVP race or crown your champion right now in August. Visit the FanDuel app today and start planning for your future bets now because futures day is one day and one day only. FanDuel, play your game, guys. If you want to bet on Dylan Gabriel’s statline against the Philadelphia Eagles this weekend, you can find it on FanDuel. We’re going to give our realistic expectations for Gabriel right now. But first, before we do that, it’s worth mentioning, guys, that Nathan Zigur was on with Ken and Lima this morning on The Fan, and he said that Dylan Gabriel will be a game time decision on Saturday, despite the fact that he went through all the 11 on 111 and seven on seven competitive drills in Thursday’s joint practice. Gason G, I’ll start with you. Uh would you be surprised if he doesn’t play? Yeah. I mean, I would because I’m g I would ask I say, “Well, wasn’t he getting like reps last week against the Panthers? Were he was still practicing, right?” Yeah, he got a few reps. Yeah. So, okay, he got some reps, first team reps then and your hamstring is progressing. And they came up and said that, you know, him and Dylan or Shador and Dylan were going to probably play this game. and Stfansky said it was always kind of uh the I guess the the plan to get one of them a start and then to get the other one a start. Um yeah, I’d be super surprised because I would I’d be like, well, he practiced this week there. There’s no been no reports of any setbacks, so why I don’t know why he would not be playing, right? Like I I don’t know if it’s a health thing or but this is a golden opportunity, man. This is I I mean this is slowly but surely turned into a thing where okay, no disrespect, but Joe Flacco probably ain’t going to play, right? Not this game. He’s not playing. No. And he and if he don’t play this game, does that mean he’s probably not going to play next game? No, he will. He’s probably So that means Joe Flacco played a little bit. We haven’t seen Kenny yet. We haven’t seen Dylan Gabriel yet. So, the only person, the only quarterback that has taken any meaningful snaps in a preseason is Shador Sanders. And it’s like, well, hold on. Didn’t we just talk about camp and getting ready to play and not going through the motions for the first five or six weeks? They y’all seen the schedule like we and and they were and Mary Kay talked about they were getting them ready to play start meaningful snaps. Um, so I don’t know, man. If if it’s a setback, he can’t control that, but I would expect him to play and I I wish I could see him get an opportunity. Yeah, I I think it comes down to they feel like they can protect him a little bit more in these joint practices than you can in the game. We talked about that last week. Uh, you’re not going to hit these guys. Obviously, they’re fair game in a preseason game. I think that would be the only reason why he wouldn’t play. If they’re not 100% sure on the hamstring, then I see why you sit him. I still I think I’d be a little bit surprised if he sits. Uh we’ll see. You know, maybe something happened at practice yesterday during the while he was out there. But I I I understand why he could go in the joint practice and not necessarily you want to make him vulnerable in the game. I look at it like this. We have heard so much about Dylan Gabriel from the people who are inside that Browns organization. supercomputer absorbs information so quickly processes I mean they took him in the third round after most draft experts didn’t have him anywhere near a top 100 grade and there are times where teams have drafted a guy higher than the projection it has worked out it has also gone the opposite but at some point you have to see it because from all reports from practice practices that a I’ve been to I’ve been to three Jason you’ve been to a few Zack Jackson’s out there every day Mary Kay’s been out there every say Grossy, Daryl, Spence, all the people who are out there. I’m yet to see one person come out and just say flat out, yet Gabriel looks better and looks ready. And I’m not going off the numbers. I’m going off just simply what my eyes tell me. And it goes back to one of my favorite movies of all time. You guys have seen Step Brothers, right? Yeah. Jason, you’ve seen Step Brothers, the all time classic. And Will Frell is apparently an amazing singer, but he can’t sing in public. He’s scared to sing under pressure. Well, like Dylan Gabriel may be terrific in the classroom and he may be able to absorb playbooks in Chinese for all I know. He may be that smart. I I really don’t know. But none of that matters if you can’t translate to an actual game situation. And it’s great in joint practice, Jason. And it’s great in seven drills. And it’s great when you can’t get hit to watch the Browns roll out this funky looking offense with Gabriel where they’re running roll outs and changing and moving the pocket to help his shorter stature find throwing lanes. But does that actually work in a real game? I didn’t know Will Ferrell could sing to the Catalina wide mix, right? I need to see if Dylan Gabriel could play against the real NFL defense when the bullets are flying. I want to see him this weekend. And frankly, hearing Nathan Zagura, who’s clearly tied into the Browns, drop that nugget of information this morning, my gut tells me that on Saturday, we’re going to see four quarters of Tyler Huntley, which means I have four quarters of nothing to look forward to on Saturday. It would be a devastating thing for my own personal entertainment. I want to see Dylan Gabriel. Maybe he’s Will Ferrell. I mean, or maybe he’s me trying to sing. We talked about We talked about yesterday, every snap Tyler Huntley takes is a wasted snap. He’s not going to be here. So it does feel like it’s a lost opportunity if Dylan can’t I mean it’s no fault of it’s he can’t control it if he hurt yeah if he hurt if let’s preface this if he is hurt he’s hurt he hurt it is what it is he cannot play well that’s the only reason he wouldn’t play is if it’s the hamstring I would assume but I’m just going off are you saying that they are hiding Dylan oh lord no I’m Are you reading the chat right now that’s all they’re saying I didn’t I didn’t I didn’t say that I just I just asked him rhetorically he said well He’s asked you was he hurt if he I mean what other way would you Hang on. What did you say? What did you say? I said is he reading the chat right now? Because a lot of the chat said the same thing. Yeah. I’m not I’m not in the chat right now. Why would you hide him? Like did does anyone have critical thinking in their cut him if you’re going to hide him then cut him. They’re not hiding him. He’s hurt, guys. He’s got a bad hamstring. If he can’t play and he hurt, golly, he hurt you. It is what it is. But you get what I’m saying about wanting to see it though. Like we keep we’ve heard so much about it. I just I just want to see it. I’m disappointed. I understand if the hammy’s not good. If if if everybody wants to see it if All right. So, let me ask you this question. Is there is there is there something on the planet? Is there any alternate universe where there’s a possibility that not only Kenny Picket but also Dylan Gabriel do not play in the preseason? I’ll lose my mind. Is there is there a is there a world where that happens? Yeah, because particularly for Kenny that it is to me that is the worst thing that could possibly happen because then we go into the season, right, and we’re still having this conversation about, okay, what’s the pecking order? Who’s playing? Who are you getting ready to play? It’s it’s it’s devastating. So, the only thing that we have to go by, right, is all right, well, let’s see what you do in these opportunities, these preseason games. And if you don’t see Joe Flacco all that much and he starts, you still have no clear picture as to which one of these guys is going to be better, more equipped, get the first reps. It’s it’s it’s a hodgepodge of still four quarterbacks with with no pecking. I would suspect if Dylan can’t go this weekend, he would absolutely be able to go next week. Next weekend the Rams. I would hope. Pickicket, I think, is a different conversation. We He may still be that that may be where he misses all three preseason games. It seems like his is a little bit more severe. The picket thing’s been weird because at first I heard like grade three, grade two, grade three strain and then it was well he’s like he’s recovering faster than we thought and now it’s actually no actually it probably was that because he just hasn’t progressed to the point where he’s been able to return. So it’s I mean it’s it’s unfortunate man. It’s frustrating because these guys want to be out there pick Kenny knows this might be his last chance to to claim a starting job. And I want to preface that too. Like here’s the thing, guys. We say a lot of different things, but these dudes, you got it’s it’s different. They got families. They got people dependent on them. This is their career. You don’t think they understand this is a great opportunity in front of them? You don’t get to that level of a professional sport without being competitive so for example, we’re sitting here for 40 minutes before today’s show and we considered going home and doing a remote show. Mhm. You guys can’t see back there, but we have our MMA MMJ camera and all of our remote headsets that we were about to go live on. We was going to go upstairs for a minute. We’re going to go upstairs and do a remote show from three different rooms upstairs. I’m getting angry and frustrated, not at anyone in particular, but because we got a lot of stuff that we want to talk about today. I don’t want just the radio station or the other radio station or the block. Like I want y’all to hear our opin like I’m competitive in that sense and there’s no re like there’s competition but it’s not like we’re fighting over one spot. Kenny Picket, Dylan Gabriel, Shanders, and Joe Flacker are fighting over legitimate playing time in the NFL. Those dudes are all elite psychopathic competitors. Some show it differently because, you know, like there’s the Ray Lewis level of competitiveness that’s different than the Pton Manning level in terms of how they show it, but they’re equally as competitive. Yeah. And to think anyone will be willingly No. Okay. I’m scared. I I don’t want to play because I’m scared of the results. Like that’s not happening here. I just know I don’t want Steve, camera me. Camera me, please. I don’t want to watch four quarters of Pro Bowl quarterback Tyler Huntley. I want to watch one quarter. Yeah. that frankly I don’t want to watch one snap and it has nothing to do with Tyler Huntley. It’s just that it does nothing to benefit the future of the Browns. Right. And it and even Joe, let me tell you something right now. If we did a we did 104,000 on the Shador Sanders postgame show. Tyler Huntley starts all four quarters. We do 10. Yeah. I mean, I don’t know to get to that. Hey, come on. I don’t think we’ll do 10. Yeah, we you do 10. I don’t think so. If it was just Tyler Huntley, you do 10. All you need is good thumbnail. Let you write it. Let you write. You want a title? You You ready for the headline? Here, here’s here’s your 10,000. 10,000. What the media is not telling you about Tyler Huntley? No, no, no, no, no, no. Here’s here’s the headline. This This going to piss you’all off. I’m sorry. And we’re not going to do this. We’re not going to do this. I didn’t come up with this. Did Tyler Huntley play well enough verse Philly to put Shador Sanders on the chopping block? Oh my god. G Bush. Oh, listen. That Tyler Huntley hunting down Shador Sanders. Like listen that first of all I would have to leave that stream midstream once I found out what the thumbnail is. I didn’t cosign this move. No. Or you could you could do the exact opposite. Is Tyler Huntley now uh is is this going to cause Kenny Picket to get cut or Dylan Gabriel to get cut? Right. You could mix it up a whole lot of different ways. But here’s what I I will say there. Even Joe Flacco listen he did a whole art long interview with Adidi and said look man I I I know I was I want to play man like Joe Flacco want to play in this game. Oh he probably telling hey listen I need these reps. I need them. I know I know and we got super chats. So last last thing real quick but uh and Mary Kay just reported that Cleveland.com has heard from the NFL. The NFL is investigating and reviewing the Isaiah Bond sexual assault case even though he won’t be indicted. Just a heads up. So, that is happening. Oh, they got two docket cases ready through the NFL. Let’s just open a bureau and play. Do you think though real quick cuz we got super chats. Is there any chance Joe Flacco sees a snap if Gabriel can’t play just so it’s like just so he No, you can’t risk the your plan. They have a plan in place and you don’t just wanted to make sure. Just wanted to make sure for the regular season. If Tyler Huntley has to take every snap, then Tyler Huntley has to take every snap. So be it. I want to see Harold Fannon as his emergency quarterback if that’s the case. And super chats. Let’s get to it before we head over to KYC. Yeah, guys, we’re going to start here with Shalom. Shalomates. Shalomates. Hope I’m pronouncing that right. Says, “Go Blue. You think Bond can be a wide receiver too this year?” No. Uh, what’s on the roster? He’s got that mean. missed all camp. Tilman h No, he’s missed all camp. He’s probably facing a suspension of some sort. Yeah. No. Uh yeah, they they still got Tilman and some other guys. Yes. Possibly. I shouldn’t say probably. Possibly facing a suspension of some sort. Yes. Allegedly. Next up, guys, we got Miss Bell 70. Speeding without a checkered past is the real problem. Okay. Uh next up is Charles T. So-called good character have blown up on the Browns just as much. Not a good argument. If they are found innocent, treat them as such. Okay, Kirk Davis. So, Jason, are you saying we can’t give second chances because we’re the Browns? It’s already tough enough for people to get a second chance in life. I think it’s a good thing that the Browns are doing. What if that was you? Let someone else give them a second chance. There’s 31 other teams. They can give them a second chance. The Browns have exhausted their second chances and they haven’t turned out well. Why do you have to Why does it have to be the Browns that takes a second chance on on most of these guys? Why them? Maybe Maybe they have a good heart. Yeah, that’s it. I’m sure that’s it. Charles T also says he was an undrafted free agent, so yes, it’s worth the squeeze. There was no squeeze. They didn’t draft him. If he balls out, it was genius. If he does what? If he doesn’t, it was who cares. Yeah, it is. It is a lowrisk move considering the money. It’s not a much investment at all. Next one from Shalom. Again, the Browns still have good character guys like Samson, Shador, Dehop, and others who have good Christian values. They also acquired Jamus last year. Then from Christopher Rob, there are good people. There are good people on on the Oh, there’s a ton of good dudes in that locker room. Yeah. Yeah. That this that that has nothing to do with the the the people that are in in the locker room. Like there there’s great individuals all over the place. Like so this does this no stain on them like Sorry. Ready. Uh Christopher Rob, didn’t Shadore ask Deontay for number two? Now Deontay is in jeopardy of losing his roster spot with the eventual signing of Bond. God’s plan. Uh no, he has it was Dehop. Uh Johnson’s wearing 16. I think it’s DeAndre Carter. DeAndre Carter. Deandre Carter has number two who is going to be their kick returner. And and and Shador is wants 21 backwards. Um and which is 12. And he did a good job of making everybody get a new jersey. Yes. So yeah, use marketing. And then Miss Bell says, “Yes, let’s hide the not so good Golden Child in reference to Gabriel.” And lastly, Joseph Silver says, “Shout out to Jason G. Bush and McNuggets.” Earl, I guess we can go home. Have a good TV show, guys. Uh there’s one other piece of information. Uh, the Northeast Ohio trans blog, which has been all over the stadium update just tweeted out the Browns new stadium denied ODOT aviation permit. Appeal or stadium redesign are now options? Wait, does this mean does this mean that the stadium is not going to be like effective because of the airport being right there? Like, are they not going to be able to fly? I’m just going to read the headline one more time. There’s the tweet. Steve, don’t zoom in on it cuz I can’t zoom in and read. Once again, the Northeast Ohio trans uh transportation blog, “New Brown Stadium denied ODOT aviation permit. Appeal or stadium redesign are options.” Daryl Ryder then, who’s been all over this, quote tweeted, it said, “This is bizarre. The FAA had no issue with the stadium design. I’m told the Browns been working with ODOT officials to address their concerns and hope this issue will be resolved, but as of right now, their stadium permit denied by the ODOT aviation crew.” Stay tuned because uh that makes things a lot more interesting in the Brook Park development. We got to head over to KYC. You can find us in 3 minutes of WKYC or the WKYC Plus. We appreciate you sticking through us PSC technical difficulties.

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