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Are Nikola Jokic and Jonas Valanciunas BEST CENTER DUO in NBA Today?



Are Nikola Jokic and Jonas Valanciunas BEST CENTER DUO in NBA Today?

Does Michael Porter Jr. have a point? Oh, wait. No. Oh, that’s not what we’re talking about. Oh, we’re guess we’re not talking about that today. Uh, on today’s show instead, we just had to we just had to get Matt with that. He’s kidding. For the audio listeners who don’t know, he’s he’s kidding. He’s kidding. We’re going to talk about the Nuggets position groups here on Locked on Nuggets. You are Locked on Nuggets, your daily Denver Nuggets podcast, part of the Locked On podcast network. Your team every day. Welcome into Locked Onuggets, your daily Denver Nuggets podcast. Part of the Lockdown Network, your team every day. For those of you trickling in late, you’re going to have to scroll back to the intro because you’re going to want to see Matt’s reaction to uh him not being ready for what I was about to say. Do the intro. I want to talk about it for just like a sec. Okay. Do the intro though. Uh do do the intro over again. No, just like finish our who we are. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, it’s fine. Uh my name is Ryan Blackburn. I’m here posting Lockdown Nuggets. He is Matt Moore of HP basketball, the hardwood peroxism, and everything in between. We’re going to talk about the Nuggets rotation, and uh just the ranking of positional groups today, as well as some of David Adelman’s biggest challenges. Today’s podcast is brought to you by the good folks over at FanDuel. Uh make sure uh to check in on football season, which is around the corner. visit the FanDuel app today and start planning your future bets now. Um, okay. Uh, before before we get into the the meat and potatoes of this show, uh, Michael Porter has been going off the deep end over the course of this last week. No, no, no, no. Because that implies that at one point he was on the deck of the pool and then chose to dive into the deep end. And what really happened is that he’s always been in the deep end and the Nuggets cut the lights off so you could not see that. Um I I’ve been very complimentary of Mike because like Mike and I aren’t going to agree on a lot of stuff outside of the basketball world, right? And like Mike was a really great he really was he was great to cover. who’s very insightful and honest and thoughtful and like he really does love the game and he like worked his tail off to be able to play as much as he has despite his back injuries. All of that can be true. And also, yeah, like there were signs the whole way that this is like that he did not really keep it like curious Mike the podcast always had those kind of inclinations. Like we had a lot of signs during the COVID thing of like who Mike is and that’s fine. Mike gets to be whoever he wants to be outside of of basketball and now he has a a much bigger city to attract attention in. Um there has been my favorite comments have been like Nuggets PR are saints for having kept this locked up for this long. Gota Yeah. Like Yeah. gotta give them some credit for for what was clearly a pretty awful situation underneath the hatch. And I I know from experience and like there’s there’s stuff that I’m not going to talk about that we shouldn’t talk about right now, but like it it has not been sunshine and rainbows the entire time with him. That’s for sure. So, uh, it’s unfortunate, but either way, uh, joking joking aside at the top, it was I just I really just wanted to see your reaction to that. Holy cow, that was uh that was quite something. Thank you. Uh, uh, shout out Nick Angstad who who did the same thing and I I got the idea from him. Um, okay, let’s talk about the Nuggets rotation. I I kind of frame this to Matt as a ranking of position groups, but let’s start with the title. Are Nicole Joic and Jonas Valunis the best center duo in the NBA today? I think it’s a fair question. And when you think about Joic as the best center and then you think about Yonas as a longtime starter who’s now transitioned into a backup role, it kind of makes sense, right? Yeah. I mean, somebody kind of mentions the Clippers and Zoo is all NBA worthy, I thought, last season. Yeah. And Brook’s awesome. Yeah. But like when you have the best player in the world, it stacks it unfairly. And so the question is just like, can you have the best position group? I I guess here’s a better question. Um I think JV clearly makes it because there’s a good chance they wind up either small, negative, or positive in the nonic minutes. But does Joker’s dominance mean that it doesn’t really matter? Like, is this kind of the same as like if you have the best anything at that position starting, which takes up 35 minutes a night, isn’t that the best positional team in the league at that position? It certainly helps. That’s certainly the the best factor. But I do think that when I think of a positional group, I think of, you know, you’re going to get 48 really solid minutes from that group. And it just has been such a detriment to Denver over the course of these past few years that as Jokic has been so great. The absence of him has been felt even larger to the point where now you you see somebody like Valenunis come in and you feel very good about the center rotation. I will say a team like Houston does have some credit there because they’ve got a an all-star, a borderline all-star in Shangon and then you’ve got Steven Adams and Clink Capella behind him. That to me is is one of those where that might be volume over quality, but still like really good quality. Yeah. And I just like I try and think about how if we’re going to do this, you’d have to like quantitatively assess it at some point. And so it’s like, all right, if Joker’s a five and JV is even, let’s let’s be really critical and let’s say, hey, he’s terrible at defense, um, he’s he’s up there in age, may not have actually wanted to be here. Let’s give it a two, right? So it’s a seven across the two. That’s a three and a half. And then like Alprin is, I think, a four. Yeah. And Adams is like a three and Capella is like a three. Yeah. And that’s really solid, right? But that’s still what 10 divided by three 3.3ish. So you’re still coming out ahead on Joker with him being like the five. So I just I don’t really have any sort of idea of a team that can really compete with as many quality minutes. I mean I do think it’s probably positive in the sense that on the on any night where Joker does not play, the Nuggets are not a negative or a below. if we’re doing a one to five scale, they’re not like a one. Yeah. With their starting center. And that to me seems very positive. Extremely valuable there. Um I when I was doing this initially, the question that I had most pressing, were the shooting guards actually secretly pretty competitive on Denver’s roster this time around when you talk about the depth standpoint? Now, hear me out because we’re talking I think the way that you framed it is the right one where Jokic’s value and like his actual ceiling level is like it brings that up so much more for that perspective. But Christian Brown, Julian Strawther, Tim Hardaway Jr., all three really good players and and you when you think about it from a depth standpoint, I think that they are going to be one of Denver’s strongest position groups in this upcoming season. Yeah, I can’t get there. I just can’t. I think um like Christian’s obviously like great for what he does and Bruce is great for what he does and Julian I think is going to have a really good season, but I can’t get there as far as like the positional strength. It is kind of interesting to kind of look at the flexibility here. With Cam being so tall, it’s interesting the positions that he can play because I think that Cam Johnson like fundamentally reshapes what you can look at because you can technically call him a power forward. Yeah, you could you could get away with calling him that. And then it’s like, all right, Aaron Gordon, Cam Johnson, Zeke Naji, Don Holmes. It’s a lot of minutes. It’s a lot of minutes. It’s a lot of minutes. And I think maybe that’s a better way to that’s maybe like a better way to do it, Ryan, is if we were to be like, “All right, how many not awful?” Like, how many pretty good solid minutes can you get if you add them all up? If it wasn’t a matter of you’re trying to fill 48 minutes, but instead it’s like how many minutes do you have at your aotment of like you can get away with playing this guy, right? And like to that end, if you count Bruce as a point guard and like Jaylen, I’m not really to to sell out on here on like what Jaylen Picket was able to do last season and that’s actually pretty positive. Like I think everybody’s like you need another point guard. I do probably think like Jaylen Picket deserves a look. Like he was good enough to deserve like a look at the very least at that consideration. But I do think that this It’s funny because you’re like you’re I think you’re you’re more positive on this exercise than you have been on others because this is one exercise where I actually come out. I’m like, you know, Ron’s got it right that they’re a little thin. Yeah. And like Hurricane says in in the chat like they need two more dudes. I don’t know. I don’t know. Like they’re probably okay with where they’re like not okay. They’re really good with where they’re at. They might win 60 games. Yeah. Um would you feel better with two? Sure. But you’d always feel better with two, of course. Um, if you replace like and the two are like Zeke Naji, Hunter Tyson. If you take those two guys and you replace them with other guys of of NBA veteran minimum quality, you’re you feel better. You feel all the the more better. But, um, there’s a lot of experience at shooting guard at this point and there’s a lot of versatility at shooting guard, but I don’t know there’s anybody that’s good enough on that list for me to feel like, yeah, it’s a great position. Well, then let’s do this folks in the comments and especially in the live chat here. Give us your like top tier like positions like who which position do you think is best and which position do you think is worst on this particular roster as it stands right now. When we come back, we’ll read off some of those and then we’ll kind of rank definitively which position group is best here on Locked on Nuggets. All right, let’s talk about FanDuel. 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Back at it, Locked on, thank you so much for making it part of your day. We We will be better on the transitions. It’s uh it’s definitely I think you’re muted, Matt. Oh, wow. It’s just a It’s the offseason. It’s fine. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, we’re we’re we as we as we flip around our roles when when we’re leading and doing stuff, we we also flip around our transition stuff, so it’s all good. Uh back at it, Locked on Nuggets. Thanks for tuning in. Hit that like button, folks. Hit that subscribe button. Would really really appreciate it. Let us know like how much indepth you guys want us to go on the Serbia side of things, the Lithuania side of things for Eurobasket. We were thinking about doing some of that today but decided against it. We’ll probably as kind of Eurobasket kicks off next week really start to get into it then. But should be interesting. If you have a job and you have a life and you don’t and you like listen to this podcast are not an online person, first of all, God bless you. Second, um, go look up though the stuff that Joker’s doing in these friendlies because he’s just doing some wild stuff. He’s just there was a a knockback pass that was that was like it’s going to go on his career highlight tape because it’s that insane. Does anybody like that’s the thing about like and so it’s funny. I was watching a like a Steve Nash highlight reel was like from the 2006 playoffs against the Lakers popped up. He had 23 assists in game four that year. And I was just blown away kind of going back and watching the depth and difficulty of the passes that he’s making in the half court. And like people want to throw out Joic as one of the greatest passers of all time when guys like Steve Nash also exist. And like it’s that’s the ultimate I think sign of respect for what Joic is doing right now because he’s kind of paralleled with some of those greats. Like it it really like that’s how it should be framed I think not just like pushing down some of those other guys that have been awesome. So we’re doing um we’re doing signature moves tournament over on lockdown NBA. It’s been a lot of fun. I wrote a lot about it this week on Proxis. I’ll write a little bit more about it um this week too. And what I think is interesting is it allowed me to kind of go back and like, you know, I’m like watching all Magic’s no look passes. And I really do think if Magic hadn’t been first, if Jokic had been first, I think we would think about Joic as the best passer of all time. Wow. Like I think he I I really do think he’s the best passer of all time. And that’s not to say that Magic wasn’t amazing. He was, but it’s a very different style and it’s a very different approach. And uh one thing I notic I pay attention to a lot is how functional is the flash because one thing that’s really funny is go back and watch a lot of the just go look up no look magic passes. He’s like he’s running the transition and he’s outside the lane driving and he looks to the crowd and whips it and it’s like who are you looking off? There’s no one in front of you. You’re staring into the crowd. You’re not gonna pass it into the crowd. Like there’s no reason. Plus 1,000 aura. That’s the reason. Yeah. And so there’s a lot of those versus like with Joker, they legitimately are. He knows where the guy is and he’s passing without moving his head. Yeah. He’s not looking one way, not look away pass. It’s just a no like he doesn’t need to look at him. So, and the targeting and the placement of all the balls as well as the outlet passes because like I think he’s as good if not better than Kevin Love in that department. Yeah. Um Jo I mean Joker just might be the best passer of all time. It’s wild wild to think about and one of the big reasons why the Nuggets center position is probably there. Uh couple people are of course objecting. I’m forgetting about Sabonis on Portland. Yes, Sabonis was so old by the time he got there, though. Like, it just wasn’t the same. It just It really isn’t. Um, Milo Steosic, not bad. Not Not long enough in the NBA, I don’t think. Not long enough. Yeah. But yeah, best best NBA passer. I think for sure. For sure. Um, okay. Kind of wrapping up this uh positional list, there were a variety of folks that that kind of gave us uh some points here. Cedric says center is the best, point guard is the worst. Um, Kobe Kakoro says best roster spot is the five with Joker. Even the four is strong with Gordon into Holmes. Um, Cedric also follows up says our wings uh three and four are okay. Um, where do you think Denver is the weakest right now? Gosh, that’s a good question. because I kind of feel like it is power forward, especially if somebody like Aaron Gordon were to miss some time. See, but I think Cam can play there. He can. And but you just know that you’re going to, I think, develop some major weaknesses from a defensive standpoint. Yeah, it probably is because like if Cam has to miss a game, they can start Payton. And if Payton was out, they could start Holmes or Zeke and then put go the other direction. I I’d go smaller in that case and start Christian at the three. Yeah. Um so they’ve got a lot a lot more versatility around the small forward spot. So yeah, it’s got to be power it’s probably got to be power forward. Like I really like their lineup of power forward, but but as far as like I think depth and good options, like how long how far down do you have to go to to start being worried about it? I mean point guard’s obviously weakest, but then I think it’s probably power forward. um and then small forward and then shooting guard and then center. There is potential I think for power forward to be a positive surprise if Don Holmes immediately proves that he’s just a a stable option that they can trust that they can go to or or provide some sort of I think layer to his game and and layer to the Nuggets rotation that they could find helpful. I am a little bit worried about like just general mobility and athleticism at that spot. Uh but like yeah, Zeke is is just one where I mean he’s not bad as a as an 11 power forward especially. I’m mostly just amused that that RSC PJO says any starting lineup with Zeke is a weakness and Gnome immediately chimed in with a zeenness which I thought was funny. That is very funny. Um I I I’ve been wondering about this from Gnome is if what if what if Daron just doesn’t crack the rotation? It’s very possible to me like I I’ve been trying to I I I remember talking about that with Cam. Uh there is a world where Zeke is just the 11th man or 12th man and Don Holmes is the 12th man or 13th man depending on what you’re looking for. and like different lineups that Denver’s going to play. Like there’s a strong possibility that Denver goes nine, Matt. Like there’s like that is a a very real thing that David Adelman might decide to do, especially when the going gets tough and they’re like we need a win. So it’ll be interesting to see what they do. But uh for that reason, like Payton’s going to slide between the three and the four. Jonas is going to play the five. Tim Hardaway is going to play the two, maybe the three sometimes. Same with Julian Strawther. Bruce will play the one and the two. and and they’re just going to kind of blend and it’s it’s going to be it is going to be a good rotation, but just the way that they’re going to run it, it wouldn’t surprise me if it’s less defined position groups other than center. Yeah, I think one of the things I think that is kind of interesting is we kind of wonder about this is do you like lineups with two guards and Christian at three more or do you like lineups with Payton Cam together? You mean like Payton and Cam two and three and then No, Payton and Cam three and four. So my question is basically like would you rather move Christian down or keep Christian at two? There is a time and a place for both of those things. Sure. I kind of like like if you don’t have to guard a major wing. I kind of like Payton at the four, Cam at the three, and having Payton as your rotational defender in a lot of those cases and keeping Christian at the two, so that way he can continue to guard on the ball. Uh, but there there’s of course a variety of different situations and and reasons for them to go a little bit bigger with some of those guys or them to move Christian to the three. Uh, I do think that Christian has enough versatility that they should be trying to do that. There’s it’s a way for them to play faster. Like playing Jamal, Bruce, and Christian al together to me makes a lot of sense. It’s something that they did a lot during the championship run. So, they’ll probably get back to it. Makes sense. So, let’s take a break. When we come back, we’re going to wrap up with David Adelman. He has been there’s not a not not a ton of major things going on with David Adelman, but I think there are still some questions on what to expect from him and some of his biggest challenges. We’ll be right back here on Lockdown Nuggets. back at it. Locked on Nuggets, thank you so much for tuning into the show. Um, takes me out every time. Um, okay. Let’s talk about David Adelman, who there were no real questions, Matt, about him being rehired as the the head coach. It is was at least something that because they did it before hiring the two-prong general manager approach that it caused some questions. But it is interesting that now they have somebody that has a lot of experience with this rotation. He knows the group. Uh but every coach faces challenges and I’m curious for your approach here. What do you think David Adelman’s biggest challenge is going to be for the Nuggets this upcoming season? There’s a lot of new parts. This is the first time the team the starters are going to have a lack of continuity in three years, right? So that’s a big deal. and players are really comfortable and you think you can get stale. I think that happened last season, but you’re going to have to build that continuity. I think getting them out of their old habits and making sure because it’s like some of it’s really good when it’s like, hey, we’re gonna we’re not going to do this thing that drove you guys crazy with Malone anymore. And it’s like, yay. And there’s gonna be some things where where he’s gonna be like, hey, we’re going to do this instead. This is how I want to do things. And like, but we’ve we’ve always done the other thing. It’s like, yeah, well, we’re not doing that anymore. And that I think is a little bit challenging. I think um honestly look the biggest question mark here is Bruce isn’t gonna be a locker room problem because he’s just like thrilled to be home. Cam isn’t going to be a locker room problem because he’s really excited to join a winner and he’s a really thoughtful, smart guy that seems to have like a really good head on his shoulders. JV I don’t think is gonna be a problem because JV is is like he understands he’s a bench player. Wanted to go go overseas. Didn’t happen. He’s here. It’s fine. one year like um yeah, but you know there are egos that clash and there are problems that arise and how a coach manages that is honestly way more important than the stuff that people freak out about like rotations or um subs or who’s in the rotation who’s not or a timeout an after timeout play like the CEO management stuff of being an NBA coach is way more important and Malone may not been perfect at it, but he managed it really well to keep it together as long as he did for a decade. Yeah. So, that’s going to be the challenge. I know James Burggo, I think, is one of the smartest guys in the league when it comes to X’s and O’s. By like all accounts, from everyone I’ve talked to, James Burggo is like he’s so smart. He’s so in tune, right? Couldn’t handle locker room at all. Couldn’t do it. Hornets ran over him. It was problem. Now, I think that that team of brats would have ran over anybody, but it’s it’s a thing. And David’s been there, but David’s never been the guy. So, like, how that adapts, the the personality stuff, I think, is probably the biggest challenge, even if I think he’s very well situated to be able to handle it. A couple things. I think that you’re 100% right that a lot of times the personality stuff and the playing time stuff and just what people are expecting versus what they’re going to get out of it. The common theme is sacrifice in a lot of these situations. And guys, especially if it is one-year deals, if you’re in a situation where you are trying to get your next paycheck, how often are you going to be willing to sacrifice for this particular team? I think is a fair question. Uh the other thing and just a kind of another question to throw back at you, who do you think is the player that is most likely to have a far lesser role from a shots perspective or a minutes perspective or an involvement perspective than they would be expecting at this current point in time? Julian, I think Julian is a fair qu it’s a fair assessment there. And it to me it’s either Julian or Tim Hardaway. It’s either either of those two guys because I think T I think THJ knows the deal. Like I don’t think THJ is like I came here to be a start, you know? I came here to play 30 minutes a night. I think TSJ is like, I know what the market is. I know where I’m at in my career. This is a good place to play. It’s a good style of basketball. It’s low maintenance. Great. Yeah. Awesome. My my counter there would be that is like because he’s a guy that I valued at so much higher than a minimum contract. And the money of course just kind of dried up. He took a minimum, I believe, with the expectation that he would get opportunities to prove himself and continue to play and then get back out on the market and make another buck. Uh, is he going to be able to do that with a 16minute per game role as the ninth or tenth man? I think is a fair question. I mean, a lot of that for him is also like one thing I think that gets lost for young guys, they get really frustrated because they don’t get to show it. The veterans are more of the mindset of like guys miss time, guys get hurt, I’m going to have to play. Like that’s how it goes. And if I play well and it’s like, oh wow, he did really well. Then all of a sudden you’re in the rotation and you’re like an important part. Yeah. And that’s I think that’s like a veteran mindset that takes a long time in league for people to understand. So, um I’m less worried about that. I mean, Payton is like obvious. I think if they don’t if they don’t extend Payton and they go into in camp with him going into restrict into restricted free agency, then yeah, I think then Pton’s going to be the I think the biggest frustration mark again outside of the roster and minutes and things like that from David Adelman’s perspective. He’s going into a first full season as the head coach. Are there things that you think he might struggle with from a schematic standpoint from a a just kind of evolving with what the league currently needs right now? Uh is this a endgame execution kind of thing? Is he like like does Denver have enough defensive personnel for him to put together good defensive years? Things like that. I I I think that all of those could be potential pitfalls, but I’m not sure what it will be. Oftent times things will get perceived as a weakness for a coach that actually aren’t. Like interesting. It’s like, you know, he’s really struggling with this and it’s well, no, it’s the players can’t do the thing. Like they can’t they’re not doing the thing. Um, I’m hopeful the motivation won’t be a factor this year because I don’t know that Adelman’s going to be rahrh. He’s soft-spoken. He’s very matterof fact. He’s very level-headed. And that I think is a plus for him managing an NBA team, an NBA season. But, you know, that’s a I think that’s maybe the bigger question, Ryan, is like where’s the fire come from? It’s a good question because the fire kind of petered out under Malone where year 10 for him, guys stopped listening and and really amping it up on a everyday kind of basis, especially on the defensive end. The detail work definitely fell apart a bit on that end. Is that something that that uh Adelman’s going to be able to recapture? Somebody earlier asked what we thought of the assistant coaching hirings or a couple of new guys uh that that came in. Couple of uh I think Moser is one of the guys from uh from Houston or Dallas. It was I think he was under EDOKA staff. They’ve also got Jared Dudley. They’ve got JJ Berea on these on the staff and it’s going to be kind of a rotational basis for a lot of those coaches. And I I wonder if the fire is going to come from those guys as opposed to Adelman just in terms of hey, fire is kind of the expectation. Effort and execution and attitude and and going about things the right way is kind of the expectation, not necessarily something that you should have to draw out of people. And so I I wonder if that will help or be a hindrance in this situation. Yeah, we should mention they hired um Chase Buford, right? And Moser uh to the staff. So, some new a lot of new faces, which I think is a really good thing. What What’s the thing that you’re you think you’re going to be Well, I guess here’s an even better question. What’s the the thing you pay most attention to? Like, what’s the thing that determines whether like your assessment of a coach? How do you how do you assess them? It’s really hard. And the more that I do this and talk about this, the more I realize I just I don’t know what those huddles are exactly like or what the game plan is going in in a lot of those situations and and what the certain emphasis points or rotational strategy points or like, hey, how much are you changing with your zone defense coverage, things like that. There are so many things that go on behind the scenes under the radar from game to game that we just aren’t privy to uh even as media and that I I struggle sometimes with those overall evaluations. So, it’s one of the reasons why I gave Malone the benefit of the doubt more often than I maybe should have. Um, but I just don’t know necessarily how to evaluate it from a a game-to-ame perspective. Is there something you think I should be doing? No, I think I just think everybody’s kind of got the thing because we’re all kind of guessing. Yeah, I think we’re all just kind of I think it takes so much it takes such an inside look at things and it’s one of the things that always really frustrated me is the NFL is great about providing assistant coaches to talk to the media so we can get a better sense of them and we don’t get to do that. Like we just don’t. It’s you’re not allowed to talk to the assistant coaches except for very rare instances and that’s always I think is is a bummer that that’s the way it is in the NBA. Yeah, we’ll we’ll see whether maybe some of those guys as as it’s a new staff and everybody’s trying to get entrenched, maybe maybe they’ll make themselves a little bit more available on that front, but we’ll see what happens. Uh, as for kind of the overall biggest challenges, I I am so like from from a defensive standpoint, it’s just how hard Joic is going to play and execute his own personal defensive coverages in the middle of the paint to me that I think is the most important factor. and everything else beyond that is kind of secondary in terms of if you don’t have your middle anchor playing at peak capacity or or pretty close to it, then it’s really tough to evaluate anything else. Yeah, agree. So, we’ll see what happens. But hey folks, that is going to do it for this particular episode of Locked on Nuggets. Thank you so much for tuning into the show. We will be back on Tuesday night. Uh Swiper should be back in town relatively soon as well. Uh, make sure to go say hi to him, especially when he does get back into town. Uh, thank you so much for tuning in. Hit that like button. Hit that subscribe button on the way out. We’ll talk to you guys very soon.

Matt Moore and Ryan Blackburn rank the Denver Nuggets position groups and ask if Denver’s center duo of Nikola Jokic and Jonas Valanciunas is the best in the NBA today. They also go over some of head coach David Adelman’s biggest challenges for this season.

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14 Comments

  1. If Nuggets actually cared about winning, Jokic would not have been thrown out there with these pathetic lineups last 2 years in a row.

  2. It’s hilarious how hard the media goes to protect image of Giannis. Constantly overblowing his team situations like he’s had it so bad with the only intent of excusing him for losing

  3. Power Forward position is definitely the most awkward. Basically just got AG.

    Zeke – Im not gonna start that discussion again.
    Holmes – Still his Rookie season. Didnt even see him play yet
    Cam – Is supposed to be our starting small forward

    DNVR was talking about PWat having to play Power Forward minutes. That's how bad it is. I find it curious that this is not obvious to everyone.

  4. Val isn’t even that good he’s decent but he’s not that great of a center overall there’s a reason why a lot of people didn’t want him and why he was on the wizards and then the kings if he was super good a lot of people would have went for him

  5. This duo will be absolutely better than okc"s duo of centers and definitely better than Minnesota's too because both of these centres are stronger more skilled and stronger and more skilled not necessarily faster but they are fast for what they their size but they are definitely more skilled they're not as athletic as those other but they are better more skilled higher basketball IQ so yeah I would say they're better

  6. I didnt see anything!!! Wrong with anything!!! Mpj said he got personal and shared his direct life and both positive and negative nothing wrong at all !!!!

  7. First of all 33 years old and even in the NBA stay with me even in the NBA 33 is not old you're still in your Prime at 33 36 37 know he's not he's 33 he's still good for you're good as long as your body will let you he's probably good for another three years at best on a high level

  8. What did I miss about MPJ? How can you speak 5 minutes about this and not let people in on what he said who missed it

  9. 14:56 good insight. I think Magic vs Jokic are just from different eras and both are incredible passers. Magic made his C passes look like A passes and can throw some A+’s if he needs em. Jokic is happy with the necessary C passes but is a perfectly competent A+ passer and a better half court passer. All of that said, you can’t judge era against era, especially a guy now who’s expanding on the former guy’s work. Take away the showmanship and I think Jokic is a more effective passer.

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