This Will Be the Bulls Toughest Decision This Season
Discussing the Bulls toughest decision this season with the impending free agencies of Coby White and Ayo Dosunmu
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Firstt
Damn, lets Gooo
As much as $80M for capspace? Wow. Any high profile FA can we get that aren’t Coby and Ayo?
Not tough at all. Both will get paid.
Well I hope that Coby White can stay consistent win or lose and then maybe the Bulls can still keep him around I say Trade both of them instead of just letting them walk away if it comes to that
Ayo is a winning player. Coby is a leader and balls out. Wouldn't be mad about signing both. Im curious what we would be getting in a trade tho. Their performance this year i think will be the deciding force in this
Nothing is going to happen until after the year is over on how they did. {Bulls] If the team has a great year {50-32] decisions will be made easier. If they have a lousy year {36-46} decisions will be made easier. If they have a so-so year{43-39] decisions will be made harder.
Personally, I'm keeping Ayo as a role-playing bench piece, and I'm trading Coby to get younger role players or draft picks (or even a veteran for the young guys)
Coby and Ayo actually want to be here and have been improving while their roles have been inconsistent. AK won’t draft better and won’t trade for better.
How are we going to build if we develop players and then ship them off when they get decent? This seems to be cyclical for Chicago. A clear list of players we build and ship off – sick of it. Ayo and Coby need to stay as there is something to be said about passion and heart when you play and they have it. Bring someone in or hopefully offload vooch to free up more space for a good big.
I agree Jamaal. I've been debating this on my channel often. I'm not sure whats gonna happen…
I feel like I would rather trade Coby and keep Ayo… but I know I'm in the minority on that.
We're going to have to talk about this when we come together for @BullsWithoutBorders on September 26th! [Shameless plug, I know! 😂]
I’d say if Coby wants more than 25 mil
Then let him walk
Resign Ayo in the 15-18 mil range
Then use the remaining cap to sign one big free agent
We need some big star power on this team
If Coby doesn’t stay consistent he should get traded imo. Bulls just need to reset at some point
Ayo is the obvious candidate regardless of people’s feelings. Coby has all of the leverage since Giddey’s 4yr/$100. Coby is also looking at 30 per year.
Damn bro the business aspect of the game never stops 😭
A couple of years ago on this channel you thought Ayo should stay and Coby should go…… Now 2025 they both might be out. Personally Ayo see out because having him and Okoro who are limited scorers makes no sense. Coby. The Bulls have to determine if he can lead them in the playoffs or not. It's 50/50 for Coby.
These timeline conversations have become a little insane. If you think your 20-25 year olds have potential yes keep your 26 year olds who will be at the tail end of their prime (not career) when your next guys are blossoming.
trade both plus pat will for jalen green and nick richards
Hot take : the bulls go crazy this year and have a 50 win season 🤔🙏🏽
Not safe to do this in a black mall. We are not gonna be standing around looking; We gonna have some church…😂
If Giddy and White will be our future front court for the Bulls. Then we really need to make our franchise guy someone in the front court via trade, free agency, or the draft. Because a White and Giddey front court is not a elite back court going forward
No, its not hard decision. You should have traded them at the 2025 trade deadline or at the latest at the draft night. Now you just need to resign them. You don't get much for a potential rental, that what Coby and Ayo are now. Nobody isn't trading any value at this upcoming trade deadline for 2-3 month of Coby!
Why not sign them to a valuable contract. We are in no space to let talent walk. Accumulate as much talent on reasonable contracts to trade for that higher tier player/ star down the road.
I wanted the Bulls to draft both Coby and Ayo, Ayo was a second round steal IMHO. The FO has not impressed me with trades but I feel they have drafted well the last few 7:49 drafts. If you can’t get at least 2 first round picks for Coby and a first round pick plus for Ayo I’m skeptical we’ll see a decent return. Heuter and Collins can be resigned if their play this season merits it and the price is reasonable. Our biggest issue is at Center, the FO will keep Vuc and Billy will play him. I think that is the biggest issue, they keeping kicking the can down the road about who plays the 5 when Vuc isn’t here and can we find a more impactful player at the 5 because if we can’t we’ll be lucky to finish 8th and be out of the playoffs at the first round. We need better front court defense and just like with Zac and Demar we need to develop other players not count on Vuc for a good part of our offense.
Lets just trade everybody we draft a build up. Matas is next? What are we talking about. You keep both. We are on the Cavaliers trajectory if we get a legist proven star 2026 27
Lol. Coby and Ayo are both just 3 years olders than Giddey. Coby has gotten better and better every year and is still pre prime. And Ayo is the kind of glue guy who can fit literally any team.
The bulls organization have a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, having all this cap space doesn’t excite me, theyll fuck it up somehow
Well Im gonna tell you like I told you with Giddy (goat, Wine post). There is no #1 on this team right now. Coby right now is a #3 guy, but now Giddy IS now the #3 guy salary-wise for the Bulls. IF they win two playoff games and Coby is leading the team, then they will Pay Coby like he is a #2 (+25M/yr). I cant seen any of these guys being on the level of a #1 guy on a championship team next year. So if they are below 500 at the deadline, they trade Coby at the Deadline. They are not going to pay anyone on this team like they are a #2 (+25M/yr) with zero playoffs wins, that's just it period. Play-in wins isn't going to cut it either. Playoff wins. Period.. Teams have to really be careful who they give that #1 and #2 salary slot too in this new CBA. put the wrong person in those slots and your toast until the last year of the contract and teams are not trading for bad contracts prior to those contracts being last year contracts under this NEW CBA – no team can afford to do that.
They will resign Vuc or extend him. He is always available, stretches the floor, a double double machine and there is zero replacement for him in the FA market. like it or not, he is staying..
If Kaminga signs that QO and is healthy year end, he will be the Bulls #1 target in FA and they will pay him +30M/yr. They have Giddy so he is the only one that makes sense in major player FA, as he is young, can play the 2/3/4 and has actually shown up in the playoffs and carried for stretches on a championship level team, and he wants to be the guy, the #1… He is not an old ring chaser and he doesn't duplicate the top two guys they would have Giddy and Matas, if Coby is a URF. They are not wasting their time with Bron, KD, or Harden and Trey is not as desirable due to Giddy needing the ball, in addition to there are zero #1 type player who are difference makers after those 4. Then next tier are a bunch of recycles that the Bulls are not paying #1 or #2 money too.. Even realistic targets for 2027, today are a bunch of "No Thank You " guys.
My post are like wine… print it out, put in in you cellar, break it out later and enjoy.. They just get better with time..
Sign Coby, ditch Ayo. Next question
Can we actually watch the season before we make that assumption. Your take is true, but if we look at the second half the season this team can play, and that was without ayo dosomu. A full year with them together it’ll be a successful year. Chemistry is important. I say keep our core no matter what happens.
I like Ayo but the injuries concern me. If he can't go through this season fairly healthy, I wouldn't resign him unless is a team friendly deal.
DAAAAAM WHY JOSH GIDDY GET $100 MIL. CONTRACT WHY ??,,
When your franchise player got lost in his former team's rotation..Giddey is not HIM
This doesn't seem like a tough decision to me. Trade Ayo during this season for draft capital or a complimentary piece, re-sign Coby sooner than later, offload Vooch sooner than later, offload P. Will sooner than later. I like keeping Zach Collins and Kevin Huerter as rotation pieces as long as it's not pricey. A roster of Giddey, White, Buzelis, P. Will Replacement, Vooch Replacement, Jones, Huerter, Collins, Okoro, Essengue could be a low playoff team even with Billy Donovan coaching.
Great video as usual.
To me we would have to trade Coby because I'm still on the Zion train (sorrry)