URGENT: Pelicans 0-4 Start Demands They FIRE Willie Green | Joe Dumars’ FAILED Vision in New Orleans
New Orleans Pelicans face organizational crisis after devastating 0-4 start, culminating in a 122-88 blowout loss to the Denver Nuggets. The third quarter collapse—outscored 39-11—signals deeper problems beyond just losing games.
Jake Madison systematically dismantles the current state of the franchise, calling for immediate accountability at every level. The analysis covers Willie Green’s coaching failures, GM Joe Dumars’ broken offseason promises about competitiveness and depth, and underperforming players including Zion Williamson, Jordan Hawkins, and Trey Murphy. Key topics include the disastrous DeAndre Jordan signing, questionable roster construction, and the looming threat of surrendering a top pick to the Atlanta Hawks.
Madison examines why the two-timeline approach isn’t working, how the team has become the laughing stock of the NBA, and what drastic measures the organization must take to salvage this season before it’s too late.
Tune in for an unfiltered assessment of where the Pelicans stand and the urgent changes needed to stop the bleeding.
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37 Comments
It's absolutely over Jake, but now Pelicans fans can look forward to the future without investment or putting stock as much in the results of this group. It's not gonna happen with them, especially if Willie stays on. If Willie stays on, it means the FO isn't trying with this group. He should be fired now, or at least immediately after the road trip (I agree it should be now) so they can really start anew. The goal for the Pelicans now is a total fresh reboot.
My observation this evening:
After a time out in the second quarter, the Pelicans had the ball on the offensive baseline on a short clock. I assume during the timeout, the coaches drew up a play to get the ball inbounds. After breaking the huddle, they took the court and when the refs were ready to resume play, nobody knew who was taking the ball inbounds. And, that was out of a time out. Willie face was priceless; he's lost the team big time!!!
…and Zion's rebounding tonight was out of sight…. LITERALLY!!!!!!
The New Orleans Pelicans are an NBA team in name only.
Glad we got that 2026 pick, oh wait we better get it together 😂
Every dayer
Yes time of death declaration pls
Why not start with players who brought you back into a 6 point lead but Willie puts starting line up in of course we get blown out
Zion needs to go i know yall defend him but he is just as bad the last playoff team we had he wasn't involved we also got rid of that team for him and this is the result
Forget them picks with this organization it means nothing nothing and if we need picks we got players to trade but again with Joe it don't matter
Willie called them soft and chumps when he's the coach it think it a revolt different line up after having all summer to get ready a joke they looked bad last 2 games Jake not last 4
Too bad that this team is not clicking, it looks way better on paper. Maybe a full-on rebuild is the best way to go. What would be the realistic trade-market value for each of Zion [3yrs x $42M], Murphy [4yrs x $28M], Herb [4yrs x $18M] and Murray [2+1yrs x $31M]? The idea of getting all possible future draft assets and young talent in exchange for those four players, and developing Fears, Queen and Yves, sounds entertaining at least.
Fire Willie Fckn Green !!!!!
No energy just like their coach. No effort. Zion half assing it because people are tired of him stealing money. Trey Murphy is a bum. No cj or Brandon Ingram and he is exposed as a fraud. Herb Jones being our go to offensive player is ridiculous. Deandre Jordan over Missi? WtF!?!? I have fought the good fight. I defended Zion for 6 years. F*CK THAT GUY!😡😡😡😡😡
Willie Green needs to be fired and Zion needs to retire at this point smh..
Disaster. Correctable. We need to get picks. Focus on building around Fears. He’s going to be a killer.
Fire Green. Move Murphy to the bench. Bey should start. Poole needs to stay on the bench. He’s been horrible.
Start Fears, Herb, Bey, Zion, Jordan.
Poole, Murphy, Missi, Alvarado, Queen come off the bench.
I don't even understand why Willie made poole coming off the bench while offensively, he is currently the 2nd most effective man beside zion. Doing that really affects player looks on their coach, and in this game poole shot wasn't falling, he minimized his minutes instead of helping him to get his rythm through open looks. Look at murray in the first half, he shot horribly 2/10 for 6points but still got to play to get his rythm and helped his team go up by 30 in 3rd Q. This is all about coaching, not the player, the Pels have all the talents needed to compete yet i didn't see any basketball play being drawn, all iso ball and chucking up shots.
It's too early to have Dumars on the hot seat. But Willie should be sitting on fire right now.
Feels like they are just playing in La fitness no type of system besides have Zion force shots contested .. no type of plays ran for Trey Murphy to be number 2 and jp just chucking anything herb scared to drive against smaller guards and they never catch missi on lobs they need to try and start Karlo so he can space the floor because the center always help’s because they clog the paint 🤦🏽♂️
its not looking great… but I genuinely think that you pretty much can only be optimistic. I mean can they preform worse… No. They are not hitting shots. Zion needs to play better for sure, but every time he passes they miss the shot. Trey is not a star yet he is a amazing catch and shoot guy who is going to be forced to evolve into a more dynamic shooter and i can honestly see his potential. for good players the more difficult the matchup the more quickly you can learn to elevate your game to the next level. Herb is playing decent, honestly he is not needed to be the offensive difference maker but the better the team plays the more that is the case. misi is not a starter but can evolve to one soon. and until then they lack depth in the center. I think DeAndre Jordan is a great player for locker room presence which is actually key to your team dynamic, but shouldnt really play unless it is for small minutes for wearing down specifics players or maybe certain scenarios where certain nba experience, nba iq and poise can affect a certain play. also they havent had a lot of time to really learn each others game playing against real teams. i know that everyone had and still has higher expectations for this team but im not too worried yet. i wasnt expecting them to be a top seed and i think that if it takes them a quarter of the season to figure it out they could still make the playin. i could very well be wrong and thats ok, but i dont think this is specifically a coaching issue. you said the coaching staff always says to run back but the players dont always get back for defense. i think that this team needs to utilize the players better, mainly my take away is this. Zion cant do it alone. He hasnt had a ton to work with. I actaully think of everyone on the team i trust seddiq bey the most. look at his gameplay, he is one of the factors thats gets underappreciated and undervalued by the league, but its that kind of player that i always love the most(well i guess feel more comfortable when they are on.) the josh harts, naji marhsals(the swiss army knifes). the players that do whatever it takes and arent stars but balanced offensively and defensively and the shots they take might not go in but they are the right shots. other players you cant quite say the same. but overall i think they can bounce back and i think we as fans might be overlooking the fact that its more embarrassing for the players then it for us. they want to preform well more then we want them to. its their lives and jobs on the lines and i think if we as a city and as a team show them support through this it would be the most beneficial thing for the team, I mean what do we have to lose. go all in and bet on our having their backs meaning something to them and showing just because a bad start we still believe in this team, and maybe when it goes to 10-4 and this is just a tiny blip. we arent gods we dont know what can happen. but if we show support and trust then i think they would feel inspired and empowered to fight harder then before. Thats the fans power. dont underestimate the last and greatest player on the bench, THE FANS! Dont give up jake. BELIEVE!
Start Karlo because every time someone drives they are helped by the big man because they just clog the paint with missi nd know he won’t shoot 🤦🏽♂️ why sign him to not use him
Kings look really bad too. Sacramento radio started hyping up the 2026 tankathon for Cameron Boozer… and they LOVE Coach Christie. He tells everyone losing games is 100% his fault.
Jesus Christ dude it’s game 4
Jake, I don't know how you do this mate. It's beyond bad this season, ESPN we're right…I hate this so much!! 😡🇬🇧
Ms. Gayle, god bless her (despite her moves to support the Archdiocese in its defense of pedfophilia), is doing the same to the Pelicans that she's done to the Saints. Run Loomis, Dumars, and everyone else.
After the triple whammy of LSU, the Saints, and now the Pelicans, I'm losing the ability to care, going numb. The problems are obvious, no need to rehash them here. Jake did a great job. No fan should darken the doors of SKC until the Pelicans prove they care enough to start making changes to turn this around.
Between Saints, LSU, and Pels😆 I just can’t. Ya gotta pick your poisons sometimes and I’m gonna beat this Stockholm syndrome up eventually 😂
I’m so happy for Valancunous ….10 points and 6 rebounds in 14 minutes…..Zion didn’t have 1 rebound…..fire Willie PLEASE….and build around Fears….u GOTTA go Queen Zion at 3 and 4 Fears at 1 Trey at 2 Missi at 5 ….gotta play QUEEN let him learn getting his ass bussed it’s ok……..we had 4 HARD games to start….but WILLIE IS CLUELESS…..make herb ya six man dam a blind man can fix this…..go young WILLIE…. MISSI FEARS QUEEN zion Trey ….
This guy said Poole benched because he played bad in previous games. Something wrong with him. Jordan Poole only played bad this game because this stupid coach benched him for no reason. He actually is the team second-best scorer, having 20ppg before this game. Your favorite rookie played terrible last game 1-11 but started? Trey and Herb played worse than Poole previous games but started? Your logic does not make sense!
Ugh 😢
Now let’s calm down …..we just gotta beat the bums…we lost to 4 REALLY GOOD TEAMS…..Fears, Trey, Zion, Queen, Missi
If this loss wasn't proof Willie needs to go then I don't know what will 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️💯
Gayle needs to wake up!
Love this guy.❤ Zion era has to end.
Dumbest organization with the least motivated, most overpaid players in the history of professional sports. They’re tanking for the Atlanta Hawks.
This was probably your worst episode Jake. It should have been all about firing WG and nothing else (perhaps just a bit about the players).
To blame Joe Dumars already now is simply ridiculous and it also contradicts to what you have been saying before. Yes, his hiring was lazy, yes, he did that trade for Queen, but it doesn't matter what kind of roster he will build when he inherited WG (and probably was not allowed to lay him off). Not to mention that he got a roster without a proper PG and a center and he drafted both and brought some championship experience in Poole and Looney. Bay is also a great addition, while getting rid of CJ at the same time (who would have had close to zero value in February).
He should hold accountable only if he keep WG as a coach after the 0:4,5,6…whatever start. Let's hope he will take actions already today.
Alot of these players are just collecting paychecks
how the F fears got more points than Zion and trey combined?
And what the fak is that take on the players?!?
They should hold them accountable and motivates themselves even if WG is not fired? Why on earth they will do that if all of them want him gone?
Have you ever worked for a manager who is so clueless as Willie and still giving extra effort?
They were competitive for two and half games but we lost them because of his coaching "skills". Cause what does he coach them for years: "First and foremost thank GOD!"
For years the media is not pushing this guy with proper questions and not putting him under pressure, because he is a nice guy.
In football (the real one, not the one played with hands) media and fans would have crucified him already in 23/24 for not avoiding the play-in and being swept by OKC. However in US, local media will bent down and say nothing, national media will laugh at the orginization but will not mention the coach as "noone wants to see a coach fired", especially an afro-american, and fans will protest only on online forums but not in the games (except for Dallas fans).
Change of coach could do wonders