Atlanta Hawks flop after hiatus, suffer third loss to Detroit Pistons
Brad Rowland (@BTRowland) hosts Episode 2123 of the Locked on Hawks podcast, breaking down Friday’s game between the Atlanta Hawks and the Detroit Pistons. Topics include one of Atlanta’s worst defensive performances of the season, ball security woes on offense, Jalen Johnson’s latest history-making endeavor, and much more.
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Y'all really got cooked by the pistons and mr clutchingham didn't even play the 4th quarter🤣 Duren > Tingus pingus. 3-0 on the season incoming sweep and reality has hit and its time to be mid again. #gopistons Cade > Jalen Young
Is anyone ever gonna tell us what's going on with Porzingus. started with no back to backs now it's gotten to the point we rarely even see him !
The 1st look of the 2nd unit looked terrible and completely lost on both sides. Keaton Wallace was playing in his on game bumping into OO and Luke on both sides. Looked like they hadn't seen each other since the last game 5 days ago.
Hawks gave up in this one, it became a lay up line starting the 4th, I'd love to hear Quinn 1st then the team preach toughness. Once the Pistons made it clear they weren't just going to coast and start hoisting up jump shots we just gave it up, weren't willing to fight. It's not a star player we really need it's heart. If we can't shoot or run our way to victory then the odds turn drastically.
Looks like we need more than Trae. When Zingus comes back they should definitely make him play back to backs. The illness shouldn't affect his ability to do so. Let him sit only during the flairups. He didn't miss games this summer
Pistons fan here, Jalen Johnson is nice. Y'all got one there.
The pistons also had 6 days off so both teams had 6 days to study and rest
When Wallace, vit, luke came into the game I knew it was over for us …i still don’t understand why Quin loves running that horrible combination together…. No playmakers on floor and defense is bad. They literally just pass ball back and forward til it’s a turnover or a brick shot because no one knows what to do.
Pistons fan here that loves watching the Hawks (and loves Trae/JJ):
– Okongwu ain't it. JD & Stew see him as BBQ Chicken & he rolls out the red carpet to drive into the paint
– Not sure how big the "we're better without Trae" discord is in ATL, but I'm way more worried to face you with Trae in the lineup. His scoring punch & playmaking makes everyone else's job easier & without him, it's way easier to guard you knowing JJ is your only offensive threat. NAW had 20 in the first half & we didn't make any adjustment to him, just saying "yeah we doubt you can keep this up for the whole game". JJ's efficiency will get back up once Trae gets back & there's someone else to worry about, similar to how Cade's efficiency rises when JD + Ivey are with him
The Pistons broadcast pointed out at some point in the 2nd quarter that the Hawks were shooting their 5th free throw at the Pistons had already shot their 19th. The numbers (kinda) evened out as the game went along, but it's really hard to win games when you feel like you had to pull a herculean effort to go into the half down only 9. It's hard to get a fair shake from the referee's when the game is a 7.5 spread and everyone expects you to lose.
I honestly feel like if our records were slightly more comparable, that free throw disparity wouldn't have been half as bad as it was. This game felt totally uncompetitive half way thru the 2nd quarter and the free throw disparity was a big reason why.
Pistons got some dogs. Ausur Ivey Stewart Duren Holland. We need these types of players. Not fucking Luke Kenard and 6'10 210 Risacher
All Hawks fans….We have a SERIOUS…NEED…for an INTERIOR PRESENCE on BOTH sides of the ball. The Good news is that ONSI, I'm SURE…is very aware of this OBVIOUS deficiency! My gut tells me that ONSI doesn't want to pay Trae the big bucks anymore…because of his size..limited D..to be kind ..and the Cap moving forward…Onsi had a great off-season…and he will end up using PORZ/LUKE expiring contracts…along with Trae and some draft capital….to get this addressed! We can't compete moving forward with teams like the Pistons as constituted…so help WILL be on the way!
I know that..I'm probably on an island with most Hawks' fans about this…but…If Giannis were to agree to a contract extension. with US…then.I would certainly include that PELS pick along with whatever else is needed(outside of JJ/DYSON/NAW) to get the trade done! I'm basing that also on the fact that when it's all said and done..that pick will end up..post-lottery PROBABLY being in the 7-9 range. If so…that can't be the roadblock to acquiring the best player in the EAST! Especially if we retain JJ/Dyson and NAW!!!!!!
Hey Brad…am i wrong saying that moving forward…our 3 best players are JJ/Dyson and NAW???????????
I would love to hear from you Brad..your hierarchy of players…ranked…in terms of longterm (next 5 years)KEEPERS!!!!!!
Also Brad…you…doing your job!!!…constantly question Quin's line-ups/rotations/minute distributions! Gotta start wondering about the real staus of QUIN..moving forward…with M Malone and Thibs out there…it really is a valid concern!
We need Trae idc wat anybody says yea we been ok without him but we need that floor general for clutch time
JJ's D has a long way to go!!! Just sayin…Oh by the way…Giannis is the BEST playert in the EAST and is …right now… SOOOO much better..all-around…than anyone on our team!
Does anyone think that PORZ/LUKE will be back next year??? No..is the right answer…that's why their valuable expiring contracts will be used by the Feb deadline…throw in the Trae Young decision(which I really believe is leaning to not extending him for big bucks) = EXPECTED movement at the trade deadline!!!!! Help will be on the way…We need a STUD in the interior…that really will elevate our entire outlook this year and beyond!!!! WIZ/NETS/JAZZ/KINGS…plus another group of 3 or 4 more tankers(PELS AREN'T TANKING) will greatly reduce our chances of winning a top 4 lottery ball! Does anyone really believe that the 7th or 8th pick in this draft is going to be better thanZacch or ASA?????? Just asking…unproven until proven..is how it goes! Not sure that if it turns out that way the PELS would trade D.Queen for ASA and that number 7/8…we won't really know that for YEARS down the road!
Detroit Pistons had Johnson's number at point. Again we need to Trae young this game, this was a Trae young game if anything.
Crying about fouls is crazy. Y’all literally fouled Duren every time he goes up. Stop it.
Told you Queen is better than Okangwu, he’s not a center, he’s too short, he doesn’t rebound or defend the paint, and Queen is better offensively
Hawks is not good team without Trae we need to humble ourselves
Is Risacher a bust yet?to early to judge? His ceiling looks low as a num 1 pick.IMO
OK guys it's time for yall to stop ✋️ with the start onyeka crap jalen duren an Isaiah Stewart bullied him scored at will treated him like a baby 😂😂 he can backup jalen can we get walker kessler here 7 foot center please rehab his shoulder utah can take zach an onyeka for walker kessler . Also what can we get for zach he is a bust Caldwell pope?kuminga? Pj Washington any of the 3 a upgrade over zach. An stop with the trade trae crap nobody could get past pistons not even jalen ausar Thompson had him locked throwing up crazy shots jalen is good but slow down with that superstar talk he gota get a better handle of that ball only time trae has ever been stopped was the entire Miami Heat 5 trapping him ausar the weaker bro exposed jalen imagine amen guarding bro he finish with 10 points we need trae for sure yall smoking that good stuff saying trade trae yea right 😂😂
Time to fire Quinn Snyder. He's not the right coach
It was a disaster as simple as that. They were outplayed in every facet of the game. including coaching. We can not camouflage or get overconfident that this young team does not have holes or it does need the invaluable experience of veterans. . At one point of the game we were down by 35 points. The Detroit starters just played 20 to 24 minutes each.. We could have lost by 40+. points. All our starters performed in the range of minus 21 to minus 25 and JJ who had a triple double was rated the worst minus 25….embarrassing! You can't believe all the notoriety and all the false hype spewed out on the various Hawk's podcasts that we don't need him or that. This ASS KICKING hopefully was a reality check and the right corrections will be put in place.
Best ability is availability. Hawks should try and trade porzingus for sabonis or miles turner.
And y’all wanted to trade Trae Young… yall need him to save yall right about now lol😂
Pistons are top 10 defensive and ofensive team.
PLAY MO GUEYE MORE GOOD LORD!!!!
Also, you know how happy this will make me… But, I got to see Niko play for college Park yesterday. So, life is good!
I keep saying it, no toughness. I haven't researched it yet, but doesn't every team have a tough guy on the team? Who is ours?
onyeka needs to move to the pf position Jalen needs to play better defense an everybody scared of Isaiah Stewart
the hawks will not win till trea luke kp zack an quin is off the team
I appreciate your stoicism, Brad. I'm the same way. But ffs, this team is so frustrating. We're more talented than this. It's ok to lose. But to get blown out after the lengthy time off is just mind-boggling. 😳 And we need ALL the troops on the floor. I'll leave it at that. Thanks for your work, Brad.