EP. 583 – Treading Water – Orlando Magic Podcast
It’s been over a month since the Magic have won consecutive games. They are officially treading water. It’s also the last week before the EuroTrip & Paolo Banchero is back!
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23 Comments
We gotta fix our bench it’s as simple as that j.i makes all this money to not play certain games j.i and Jett are hopefully and most likely gonna get traded for like a Corey kispert or Malik monk type bench player.
Good choice for Jam hot jam of the week, WCJ deserves some attention.
Any chance you guys visiting Hamburg? Have a safe flight and welcome to Europe!
Has anyone else noticed that this season so far has basically been a microcosm of everything we faced last season? Paolo goes down, team gets hot, Franz goes down, Jalen goes down, the injury bug has our G-League guys playing, Paolo struggles for a couple weeks after the return, Jalen gets back plays a game and goes out with a knee, we go through a stretch where we can’t get a 2 wins in a row. All of these things happens last year over 82 games. It’s just happens in 36 this time. It’s just weird
Luke!!!
Once the wagners come back we should pick up some steam. We always play better after the all star break.
Kevin, I'm an Magic fan from near London and had no idea you were a big Arsenal fan. That's really cool to hear you not only got a ticket but that you got great seats for a big game. Really pleased for you man!
You briefly mentioned it, but it's freezing here at the moment. So bring lots of warm clothes.
The elephant will from the the tree by the end of the season again. Arsenal are chokers
i went to london back in august, i’ve seen and heard so many bad things about it but my experience wasn’t bad at all it was actually pretty good, me and my friend walked everywhere tried visit all the main things around london and it was very fun my last day there i went to see a man city game and it was surreal the atmosphere is something i’ve never been around tbh, i can’t wait to go back sometime in the future, also yes the tickets to these games are a pain in the ass , because of the time difference i was up at like 2 am trying to get it and lucky got it on the second lottery, that part of it was such a bad experience tho, thy need to make getting tickets easier, i was 5 rows behind the corner flag so it was very cool
Make sure to fill out and pay the UK ETA online application. A lot of visitors get caught off guard with that.
I don’t think Mosley is the guy .you were right about the injuries and how we were rallying for coach of the year last season but it’s just so many flaws in his ideology that shows he can’t take us to the next level. he was great for the rebuild and got us to where we need to be but we need another voice to get us to the mountain top
You guys have to try Döner and Bratwurst in Berlin
We still haven’t had a competent offensive system in the last 5 years of Mose. X’s and O’s have been a huge problem. Awful rotations continue to be a problem. The team is playing with no heart, no unity. I get that Franz and Jalen are out but we have enough fire power to beat some of these teams that we’ve lost to in the past few weeks. Hopefully we can turn it around.
Realistically we can’t keep depending on Jalen. It wouldn’t be crazy to have him play an Alex Caruso role, provided if AB can take the next step
Have a safe trip Kevin 🇬🇧🫡🇩🇪
I wanted to go so bad also but the funds weren’t there for me this year
Go Magic 💙💙💙
I do appreciate you guys being honest with your opinions good and bad. I do like to bust Jonathon's chops when he is a cock eyed optimist and mentions the word contender in the same breath as the Magic.
Bottom line, Magic are playing soft on defense. Until that changes, it's whatever. We shouldn't need Suggs or Franz for them to show effort on that end.
Team is annoying to watch right now.
I feel like people are so quick to be dramatic this year for a few reasons. One is that we live in a generation where people love to say outlandish things on the internet because they can do so without any consequences. But also because if THIS roster/coach doesn’t workout, we are out of contention for a very long time. We don’t have the money or the picks to go get anyone anymore. This is it. It HAS to work. So everything feels so much bigger
Thank you for addressing the Mose situation. Sure criticisms of rotations and timing of timeouts are valid, however the night and day culture change this guy brought to our organization cannot be understated. Like you said if the team quits that’s more so a reflection of the roster than the coach. I’m convinced the “fans” calling for his firing were not here during the real dark times like the Jacque Vaughn era…
The OD criticisms of Mose in the manner that you’re referring to are mostly coming from people who want/assume the Magic can hire Mike Malone imo. They believe Malone fixes everything when he has some similar issues that Mose has. You also have the concern that you can’t say for sure how successful Malone will be without Jokic being on his roster.
Bane is being held to a higher “step up” bar than the franchise star
Defense collapses cannot be discussed honestly while Paolo remains untouchable
These fans will never hold Jamal Mosley accountable because they always fall back on the Magic’s injury issues as a shield.
Any discussion about Mosley being responsible for poor defense or lack of effort gets dismissed with “the roster isn’t healthy.”
Because the team is always dealing with injuries, accountability for Mosley will never happen with these hosts.
Injuries have become a permanent excuse, not a temporary context, and as a result,
real evaluation of Mosley’s coaching simply doesn’t exist in their analysis.
Quite frankly your Mosley take doesn't even matter to me any more. I don't even listen to his press conferences. I've been out and continue to believe that this team will not reach it's potential with him at the helm. I'm not saying fire him now, but this has to be his last year. He's not the guy.