The NBA Tanking Problem Just Became A CRISIS…
NBA tanking has been a problem for years, but it has now gotten out of control including the Utah Jazz, Washington Wizards, Jaren Jackson Jr., and more!
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What if you just couldn’t have a lottery pick if made the playoffs? Just automatically protect those picks if the team is bad.
Flat lotto odds or all picks picks have odds to become a lotto pick
In pro women’s hockey, once your team is eliminated from the playoffs you start getting points for each win that go towards determining the draft order by who accrues the most points in that regard
Bottom two teams in the East and West should be relegated to the G-League. That should fix tanking.
I think that the Jazz are doing it the right way. The faux-outrage is pathetic when teams have been doing it in a more egregious way for decades. Teams are more egregious about it this very year like the reigning Eastern Conference Champions. But the Jazz are somehow the poster child for disgusting tanking that’s ruining the “integrity” of the league.
This is the second year that the Jazz have tanked, and everybody’s in an uproar about it. Give me a break.
Yea it's sport betting that's the issue. You can't be mad at a franchise of being middle of the pack the being proactive by getting a pick to change that.
Dallas getting a 1st pick was the most scripted bs ever
Dude! San Antonio has done it twice and ‘earned’ generational players (Duncan & Wemby) for it!
Other teams have just magically ‘beat the odds’ after they made a ridiculous move that just happened to benefit the NBA.
It’s a rigged league, y’all!
"I'm not singling out Utah or Toronto" yet you focus on those teams in your videos and their players. I have followed the NBA for over 40 years. You can thank Popovich. They did it first with Robinson so they could draft Duncan. You think that the current rules about leveling out for the 4 worst teams was because of Utah or Toronto ? Utah lost out on drafting Harrison Barnes because Golden State tanked the last few games so they could get the pick. Dallas intentionally tanked 3 years ago so they didn't make the play in and keep their 10th pick. OKC DID a Ton of tanking in order to get all those high draft picks. Philly's 'trust the process" was all about tanking. Too many fans with Myopia. Utah was one of last teams to embrace tanking. Jerry Sloan and Larry Miller would rather lose an eye than tank. So when did the Jazz last win? How nights has LeBron taken off for load management? He does it EVERY time he plays Utah. This fake outrage is such a joke.
If your team has losing seasons for 5 years in a row then the owner must sell the team. There fixed.
90%+ of people who watch the nba are casual fans, they would prefer seeing players playing for 3 quarters and sitting the 4th than not have them playing at all. I would argue that what the Jazz are doing is better than just resting your stars.
If your team is tanking, be happy for it because it's the best way to getting back to contention and is far preferable to hovering around 40 wins every year. with 1,230 regular season, every night there's basically at least 1 good to awesome nba game. if you love basketball, just watch those games when your team is tanking because everyone would chose longterm sucess over trying to win meangless games in late febuary. just like everything the real answer seems to be shorten the season but money is king so they wont so just put up with only really watching the awesome playoff teams and wait for your team to get good players through the draft. if it doesn't work, 90% of the time it's because they suck at drafting not because "there's a tanking crisis"
The only solution to the problem of tanking is to abolish the draft completely and allow every rookie to enter the League as free agents. I will say up front that this idea will never fly because the draft is too ingrained into the culture of sports and it's part of the entertainment value but it's an interesting hypothetical idea. Abolishing the draft would have several effects besides eliminating tanking: players would have the freedom to choose teams that fit their play style – no more Kuminga type issues. Teams wouldn't commit to "The Process" rebuilds in which they just draft most talented players regardless of fit/need and stunt the growth of potential talent. Bad GM's wouldn't be able to mortgage an entire team's future by trading away all their picks for washed up stars to chase win-now moments.
I've seen arguments that every single rookie entering the League would only go to big-market teams like the Lakers or Knicks but I don't think that would be the case. Sure the large market teams would acquire stars but they would be restricted by cap space to keep signing future stars every year. Would some star rookie want to play 3rd string behind other stars for less pay, or choose to be a franchise star for a smaller market team? There are so many variables to free agency which I think would cause players to choose teams other than the Lakers or Knicks. There would be no more anxiety of losing a high draft pick due to the roll of the dice, just your GM's ability to convince a player to choose your team. It would be like apply free-market principles to the League and allow it to grow to the best of every team's ability. Just my 2 cents! Thanks!
I disagree shit's been going on forever and I don't think it's any worse now then it was before
I think I’m okay with tanking if nba removes prop bets from sports books. While prop bets exist this HAS to change immediately, too much money is bet on these players for teams to openly tank. The Utah jazz are bullshit not playing their players in the fourth quarter
The answer is simple give everyone the same odds, why should you be punished for winning?
Abolish the draft, hard salary cap, no contract limits. Bad teams can offer better contracts to good players than good teams, because good teams are already paying good money to good players.
Tanking isn't new it's just new to Utah in the last couple years there's many taleams that have tanked multiple times in the last 40 years. But up until the last 3-4 years the Jazz have never tanked before in Franchise. But nobody cared until someone brought attention to Utah and thats disengenious
It would be crazy but I have a solution. Flip the odds. Give #10 the best odds and give #1 the worst odds. I hear the argument already, the worst teams wouldn't have the chance to get better. First, it's a lottery, they still have a chance. Second, the wizards, nets, kings, hornets and a handful of others have been bad for a long time. Getting top picks isn't changing anything. Good teams are good because of good management. The spurs were on their way to being good before Wemby. He just accelerated the timeline.
Again, it's a crazy idea. But it would work
Pingpong balls shouldn’t determine the fate of the league
OKC tanked for multiple years, San Antonio Tanked multiple years, Detroit tanked, Philadelphia did "The Process 🙄. Not to mention all the teams with these so called GAP years that were in the playoffs the year before or the Finals (Pacers) and NOBODY SAID SH*T!!!!!
Only 3 or 4 teams can get high quality free agents
This is what the league encourages. 😂
Bruh, y'all all magically forget about "The Process"? I don't like the Jazz tanking, but y'all are being bizarre about this. San Antonio wasn't egregious to get Wemby? "The competitive integrity" of not playing ANY star players as opposed to at least letting fans see great players? I'd rather get fun play from my stars and then see if the young players can hold onto the lead in the 4th.
As a Jazz fan, it pisses me off that they are catching flak online for tanking. The 76ers basically did it for a decade and had a name for it. The Spurs did it and got Wemby. The Thunder did and built a great team. The Jazz got screwed in the draft last year and will never sign a high-caliber FA. The Jazz are actually playing Lauri and JJJ for fans to see, just sitting them at the end. Want to fix it? Give bad teams a top pick to help them rebuild.
So does the NBA want the Thunder to have the Jazz pick, i dont think so..
It's easy losing on purpose cost you your 1st round pick. Your best players must play at least 70 game & avg 30 mins a game. If not you lose you pick that season or you fall to the bottom of 1st rd.
so we’re gonna punish bad teams for trying to get a good pick? lol thats keeping teams at the bottom forever… if ur team sucks ofc u know the tank is coming. its just life. u cant fix this problem. every “solution” creates more problems
Tanking issue aside, what Will Hardy is doing is actually very smart. They are essentially playing for next season already, not just playing meaningless games.
3 quarters for the core to get reps together and mesh, and the 4th quarter for the young and unproven guys to compete for next year's rotational spots.
With this strategy they are optimizing their draft position while also optimizing their roster to start off next season full blast.
Don't forget that Utah is not a place that free agents want to go. The Jazz don't get the top players falling in their laps like the beloved Lakers do. They have to draft well and develop well.
Lastly, up until the last few years, the Jazz have been one of the few franchises that was almost always in the playoffs, but never could win it all. Always the bridesmaids. I like that the new ownership is actually trying to do what it takes to finally get a championship in Utah.
Any fan of a bad team that is against tanking isn't a fan of that team and I'm so glad each and everyone of them aren't GMs/owners/etc…
As long as there's a reward, tanking will happen and should happen if a team wants to do right by their organization and by their fans.
NBA is horrible to watch. Thank goodness for college ball 🏀
Headed to the jazz kings tankathon tonight. 75 bucks for row 4 seats! I’m gonna be pissed if Lauri or JJJ play in the 4th!!
I believe the real main reason for tanking is star players are being over paid. One star player can take a third to a half of the whole salary cap per team. Which creates difficulty to create a team with talent around the star. It is cheaper to gamble on young talents with rookie contracts.
Hear me out: at ,lets say, march 15th you draw a line and the 14 worst teams in the league get another "lottery ladder" (and they start like a new season with the record 0-0 just for the lottery in parallel with the actual record) and now the team with the most wins since march 15 until the season ends gets the first overall pick (or the best odds)
1# draft pick is now random. No longer provided to the team with the worst record.
Just go no lottery flat record based. The lottery keeps bad teams bad by having a franchise that desperately needs a top 3 pick even without tanking by having them drop to 7 or below. Id rather an egregiously bad couple years than half a decade mediocrity for a team that just can't luck into a top spot even if it isn't purposeful. If you are so bad you get a few top 3 picks in a row those players if they truly are like ANT Wemby level, they won't want to stay with the team so they can't hoard all the top prospects once their rookie deals start to expire.
Radical idea….get rid of the draft. Replace picks with exceptions to the salary cap and rookies are free agents that can be signed to rookie deals!
havent finished the whole video but I genuinely think the Kings just suck and arent completely trying to lose lol
I saw the Nets win back to back and I thought “wow, the young guys pulling off some good wins!”
Then I saw who they beat…..typical NBA shenanigans again…..