James Harden Says Loyalty in the NBA Is Overrated | THE ODD COUPLE
When James Harden addressed joining the Cleveland Cavaliers, he didn’t hold back — saying loyalty in the NBA is “overrated.” And that sparked a major debate.
On today’s show, Rob Parker argues that maybe Harden’s point reflects today’s reality: teams move on from players once age becomes a factor. Even great veterans eventually run out of gas, and franchises prioritize youth, cap flexibility, and long-term sustainability.
Meanwhile, Kelvin Washington says he understands Harden’s feelings. Loyalty is something fans love to see — but when you’ve played for multiple franchises like Harden has, the business side of basketball becomes impossible to ignore. Kelvin also brings up Harden’s early years with the Oklahoma City Thunder, when he was part of a young core that looked built for championships alongside Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook — before the team chose not to extend him.
Is Harden right that loyalty is overrated? Or is this just modern NBA culture catching up with veteran stars?
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26 Comments
If James Harden was loyal, he would easily be the most hated player for that franchise he stayed with. Imagine if he was "loyal" to OKC, and all of his playoff choke jobs were confined to that one team. Given who James Harden is and what little he's contributed to actually winning. What he has to say about team loyalty doesn't matter one iota. Scoring points, getting triple doubles, I'm all ears. But James Harden can't really tell anyone about "Team" anything tbh.
Rob a bootlicker
I’ve found it best to be loyal to yourself in life
No real loyalty in business, business is business
Beard SPOT ON! trade your tail in a heartbeat! Ask that Dennis Schröder cat ….I only care if it affects my team lol🤦🏿♂️☘️☘️☘️🏆✊🏿 but if I had a family member playing pro sports it’s a no-brainer. Take care of yourself mentally spiritually physically financially 💪🏿
I fell asleep halfway through this video, and just woke up.
Loyalty is not overrated. But I understand what old dirty beard is saying. In this world
In business or relationships there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of loyalty left.
The sooner in life you learned that the better you'll be.
Hawks didn't hold on to anyone and still never won a championship 😂
Back then players didn’t have free agency rights that players today have. That’s why they “loyal” they fought because the contracts was horrific.
You didn’t get hard body free agency till that season Shaq left LA. I think Reggie white went to the packers around that time as well. That’s when free agency really became a player thing then of course LeBron going to Miami and KD to GSW really really open the flood gates.
What’s extra funny was when players contracts would come up if they stayed and took the money the media would go “he just staying for the money”, but the player left they say “he chasing a ring”
Rondo has a ring with the Celtics and Lakers
Literally look at why Harden ended up like this. The crap that happened with Daryl and 6ers. Don’t blame him get your money.
Rob had no point 😂
When owners trade a player, the player still get full value of the agreed upon contract and a 15% trade kicker. When a player forces his way out, teams almost never get full value. The team is disrupted and the kicker(no pun intended) is that they still have to pay the 15% trade kicker if the player refuses to waive it. It's one thing to want out. It's another to get fat and play half assed just to get out. Even if the player passes the ball to the other team on purpose, the team still needs to pay him. Can a team bench a player and not pay him? If a team says: "Fine, you want out? How about we release you of your service and you release us of your contract?", not many players would agree. There is a reason why some wait after they sign the supermax before demanding a trade. That is pure bad faith. They sign for the max amount while knowing that they won't be there for the majority of the contract.
The problem is when guys want to play 15 plus years and still want to get top money.
Parker needs a new partner, loud and rambling ain't it
Rob saw hardens comment from the wrong perspective
You guys wanna play too long is the most insane take anyone has given on this situation. You wanna be on the radio too long old man
He is a pro athlete.
Making business decisions is part of that life.
That is never going to change.
We might aswell just accept it now and move on.
Rob out here just talking about anomalies. The average NBA career is still five years and I’m not Harden fan, he’s just a choker and using the NBA as a business…fair enough but if you’re going to debate his points at least come with facts
A team wants you because you are useful to them, soon as you're not, you're gone. Rare time I'd agree with Harden.
James Harden is 100% right. I don't agree with how many times he did it but I understand. I think we're not used to players having power and taking their career in their own hands 🤔
“I feel like part of what I’m gettin paid for is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I’m going where they value loyalty the most” -James Harden
Harden is right. It's a business!
LeBron,KD,Harden are what’s wrong with today’s NBA and I can’t wait until all 3 have retired 🙏🏻
Harden isn’t a winning player there is no brotherhood on a team with no leaders like Hardens teams.
Cmon Rob, the Celtics didn’t because Len Bias and Reggie Lewis both died.