The NBA just sent a very clear message to the rest of the league by fining the Utah Jazz for tanking with Jaren Jackson Jr and Lauri Markkanen: stop tanking.
Much like European football and its financial fair play rule. I would have a tanking fair play rule. If a team get 1 warning, fine. 2nd warning, pick cannot be a lottery pick (if it becomes one), 3rd warning. Stripped of draft picks for 1 year.
Relegation was added after the fact in many european sports. The people actually have some power here so they made the government make sports do something that wouldn't make billionaires richer. Unthinkable right?
yeah American sports leagues lack of transparency and exciting for games, Luka Dončič must suffer in this lol… You must found a whole new NB? with no vip teams but one best town from your states represent the area and fight with others with up and down system in states inner farm leagues whos can represent in main stage…
Here is the fix for the nba, let Adam Silver decide which teams get the picks in the draft and then we as consumers will know which teams and places the nba favor for the future of the nba. Then that will make it easier for us the consumer to know what to spend our time and money on.
It’s probably just simpler for the NBA to implement a strike system where blatant tanking like what the jazz did results is both fines and a strike to your lottery odds. That way you don’t punish genuinely bad teams who are trying to win games (like the pistons from a couple of seasons ago) and only punish the team’s purposely tanking (like the jazz). This rewards teams who are trying to improve in season more than teams who want to improve in the offseason
NBA is ahead of bad publicity. The clippers punishment is coming. They don’t need to add another issue.
One way to solve the problem of tanking is all players give 5% and that goes to the playoff teams. That’s aprox 300 million. I’m sure the cba would file against that.
Euro trash can keep their relegation systems. Their leagues are almost completely predictable. Only half a dozen teams actually matter. The relegation system makes the lesser teams even less competitive and ensures there a best players on the bad teams leave for better teams.
In American sports, we don't have teams that get to just be great because they exist and have massive monetary advantages. Hell, they let their elite teams commit literal fraud.
Teams were warned after last season that pulling what the Raptors did was unacceptable. THEN A wanted the teams to be adults. Unfortunately, people can't be trusted to act ethically. The Jazz effed around and they caught the hammer. Boohoo. You got what you earned.
The more and more I hear ideas to “fix” tanking, the less convinced I am that ever can be. Europe doesn’t do drafts. I get that it forces big players to go to smaller teams. But the salad at cap and the aprons prevent big teams from getting every good player. Not to mention playing time. Would big markets have the advantage yes, but don’t they already? At least teams don’t have any incentive to lose. And far more incentive to be crafty and find smart ways around their limitations (ie Moneyball)
The real problem with tanking is the years of mediocrity of several teams. Teams that never “win” the lottery and don’t have a competent team to pull themselves out of the hole.
In regards to eliminating the draft completely, I think the belief that only large market teams would get the best players is a fallacy. One there's the cap space issue, if say the Lakers keep signing top talented players year after year then they would eventually run out of salary cap room as they continuously max out contracts. Talented players would have the choice of being franchise stars for a small market team or a 3rd string player for the Lakers. Also team positional fit and chemistry would have to be considered. Young players would want to choose a team that allows them to develop properly under the right coach and team that maximizes their skillset. (Look at how many talented players [Sochan] have been just let go recently just because they don't fit and teams don't want to pay them.) Lastly there's also player personality to consider: some players don't want the spotlight of a large market team, or they have connections to a small market team (Tyrese Haliburton wanted to be drafted by the Kings for example).
I know getting rid of the draft would never happen in a million years but NBA management keeps trying to come up with more and more ridiculous ideas and fines, but teams are willing to sacrifice entire seasons just for the chance to draft #1 in the lottery. It sucks for fans who have to endure unwatchable season just to draft a kid who could potentially be a bust.
I love how’s it’s all of a sudden the biggest issue in the world now that the Jazz are doing it. The Jazz will never attract enough talent through free agency to win anything so this is the only viable way to try to build a contender. The NBA is hostile toward Utah and not a good fit anymore.
ive said it couple of times, first, get rid of protections, all picks that are traded should be unprotected and no team with their own pick, can get a top 5 pick 3 or more consecutive years
I get the NBA get mad for him the jazz but but with Pacers this is the first time . It’s not like they do this all the time. Where was this one Philly tank for like nine years? I feel like this is they should start doing this when it’s a consecutive year thing.
2:50 What the Jazz are doing to intentionally lose games within the game is an integrity of the game issue. It's far closer to Jontay Porter (Terry Rozier accused of as well) or Tim Donaghy fixing bet games than it is to overexaggerating injuries before a game. I personally have 0 problem with the JJJ surgery to get right for next season; I do however have a problem with a team coaching to lose on purpose.
It’s an easy fix. Run the lottery in reverse. The worst record has the lowest lottery odds and the team that just missed the playoffs get the best odds of winning the lottery. That disincentivizes losing in every way.
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Much like European football and its financial fair play rule. I would have a tanking fair play rule. If a team get 1 warning, fine. 2nd warning, pick cannot be a lottery pick (if it becomes one), 3rd warning. Stripped of draft picks for 1 year.
Relegation was added after the fact in many european sports. The people actually have some power here so they made the government make sports do something that wouldn't make billionaires richer. Unthinkable right?
I would say it this. Just give the play in teams top 8. Watch how everyone change there tune.
Tanking to get high draft. Gets number one pick but team still sh*t. How about you tank your executives and front and back office?
yeah American sports leagues lack of transparency and exciting for games, Luka Dončič must suffer in this lol… You must found a whole new NB? with no vip teams but one best town from your states represent the area and fight with others with up and down system in states inner farm leagues whos can represent in main stage…
Here is the fix for the nba, let Adam Silver decide which teams get the picks in the draft and then we as consumers will know which teams and places the nba favor for the future of the nba. Then that will make it easier for us the consumer to know what to spend our time and money on.
It’s probably just simpler for the NBA to implement a strike system where blatant tanking like what the jazz did results is both fines and a strike to your lottery odds. That way you don’t punish genuinely bad teams who are trying to win games (like the pistons from a couple of seasons ago) and only punish the team’s purposely tanking (like the jazz). This rewards teams who are trying to improve in season more than teams who want to improve in the offseason
Simple Boycott this entertainment industry. This is not sports.
Take away pick protections in trades
Who cares that shit. 😂😂 They can play and standing in the corner.
NBA is ahead of bad publicity. The clippers punishment is coming. They don’t need to add another issue.
One way to solve the problem of tanking is all players give 5% and that goes to the playoff teams. That’s aprox 300 million. I’m sure the cba would file against that.
Euro trash can keep their relegation systems. Their leagues are almost completely predictable. Only half a dozen teams actually matter. The relegation system makes the lesser teams even less competitive and ensures there a best players on the bad teams leave for better teams.
In American sports, we don't have teams that get to just be great because they exist and have massive monetary advantages. Hell, they let their elite teams commit literal fraud.
Give picks 1 and 2 to the first two teams out of the playoffs. Then just go by record or have a lottery.
Teams were warned after last season that pulling what the Raptors did was unacceptable. THEN A wanted the teams to be adults. Unfortunately, people can't be trusted to act ethically. The Jazz effed around and they caught the hammer. Boohoo. You got what you earned.
Similar to locking lottery odds at a certain date, your lottery odds get locked in the order you get eliminated from playoff contention
The more and more I hear ideas to “fix” tanking, the less convinced I am that ever can be.
Europe doesn’t do drafts. I get that it forces big players to go to smaller teams. But the salad at cap and the aprons prevent big teams from getting every good player. Not to mention playing time. Would big markets have the advantage yes, but don’t they
already?
At least teams don’t have any incentive to lose. And far more incentive to be crafty and find smart ways around their limitations (ie Moneyball)
The real problem with tanking is the years of mediocrity of several teams. Teams that never “win” the lottery and don’t have a competent team to pull themselves out of the hole.
In regards to eliminating the draft completely, I think the belief that only large market teams would get the best players is a fallacy. One there's the cap space issue, if say the Lakers keep signing top talented players year after year then they would eventually run out of salary cap room as they continuously max out contracts. Talented players would have the choice of being franchise stars for a small market team or a 3rd string player for the Lakers. Also team positional fit and chemistry would have to be considered. Young players would want to choose a team that allows them to develop properly under the right coach and team that maximizes their skillset. (Look at how many talented players [Sochan] have been just let go recently just because they don't fit and teams don't want to pay them.) Lastly there's also player personality to consider: some players don't want the spotlight of a large market team, or they have connections to a small market team (Tyrese Haliburton wanted to be drafted by the Kings for example).
I know getting rid of the draft would never happen in a million years but NBA management keeps trying to come up with more and more ridiculous ideas and fines, but teams are willing to sacrifice entire seasons just for the chance to draft #1 in the lottery. It sucks for fans who have to endure unwatchable season just to draft a kid who could potentially be a bust.
Fine teams everytime they tank, 3fines they loose their pick,
I love how’s it’s all of a sudden the biggest issue in the world now that the Jazz are doing it. The Jazz will never attract enough talent through free agency to win anything so this is the only viable way to try to build a contender. The NBA is hostile toward Utah and not a good fit anymore.
ive said it couple of times, first, get rid of protections, all picks that are traded should be unprotected and no team with their own pick, can get a top 5 pick 3 or more consecutive years
I get the NBA get mad for him the jazz but but with Pacers this is the first time . It’s not like they do this all the time. Where was this one Philly tank for like nine years? I feel like this is they should start doing this when it’s a consecutive year thing.
2:50 What the Jazz are doing to intentionally lose games within the game is an integrity of the game issue. It's far closer to Jontay Porter (Terry Rozier accused of as well) or Tim Donaghy fixing bet games than it is to overexaggerating injuries before a game. I personally have 0 problem with the JJJ surgery to get right for next season; I do however have a problem with a team coaching to lose on purpose.
They need to use reverse anyaltics to put lineups out there that dont work with terrible +- throw out a 5 big lineup i guarntee you lose
All they showed is that Sam Presti is more powerful than Danny Ainge.
They aren’t fined for tanking cause they won
They were fined for keeping Lauri on minutes restriction when the team is undermanned with paid customers
It’s an easy fix. Run the lottery in reverse. The worst record has the lowest lottery odds and the team that just missed the playoffs get the best odds of winning the lottery. That disincentivizes losing in every way.