Joel extremely bias here: No, Westbrook team was NOT even close to Harden in 2017, he had TWO 6th Men of the year coming off the bench while Russ couldn't even come off the floor. His 2nd best player had zero playoff experience (Oladipo) and his 3rd became unplayable (Kanter).
Russ lead the league in scoring, lead the league in clutch points and 2nd in assist and had legit NO roster.
How do you say shai has less turnovers and yet passes less 😂. Shai only has better efficiency and slightly better defense. He's in no way a better scorer or passer, I don't even think Shai has better handles than James Harden lol
Regular season, SGA and Harden at that peaks are really close offensively. SGA is a better defender although Harden is underrated. In the playoffs, it just isn’t close. Take SGA all day
Sga just passed wilts record for most consecutive 20 point games. He also just dropped 71 points of offense with 0 turnovers against the nuggets. He is one of the most consistent and efficient guards of all time. Also nash is way closer to sga then Harden is.
Dude I’m sorry man but if u have to literally make up scenarios and give harden extra accolades because you “think” he should won it then what are we doing 😂😂😂😂. Also the minute u deadass said u think harden shoulda won mvp in 2015 over steph i had to just pause and laugh 😂😂😂. Harden was great but when u take the shoulda coulda woulda route all ur doing is making harden look worse. It’s laughable to just say harden shoulda been 3x mvp, 3x champion. How far from reality do u have to drift to make harden be better than Shai lol
How on this planet earth SGA is not on the top 100 are we fucking kidding me? Do anyone realize that Shai is the only player that is always the best player whenever he is on the floor nobody on his team every out scored his offensively on every other team their best player isn’t always there best score. We have lots of haters mann
The guy with 2 MVPs 2 Finals MVPs and averaging 30 off 50% for 4 straight seasons would still be behind notorious playoff dropper James Harden. What are we doing
Ngl I’m not hearing Shai better offensively he’s not harden was a amazing playmaker and makes his teammates so much better so I’m taking harden I’m sorry if harden had dort caruso Chet jdub and hartenstien on defense come on man
Hardens nerves kick in in the playoffs, he hasn’t handled that clutch well. There’s a reel with Kobe and McGrady saying what Harden is doing will work in the regular season but in the playoffs he’ll never win a championship with that style
Bleacher report leaving Shai off that top 100 was the most egregious thing I’ve ever seen, and made me stop taking bleacher report seriously, considering they put current players on that list who have not come close to accomplishing what Shai has accomplished. The bias on that list was incredibly evident
I find it funny how they keep saying “2rings 2 finals mvp” can the man actually do it first? NBA community did this same dumb shit with jokic Giannis Jayson Tatum. Then God forbid Shai looses or a key player on his team gets hurt then he gets slandered smfh
Also in terms of gardens MVPs Imo he should win in 15 19 along with the mvp he won in 18. 17 is debatable but it’s really hard to argue against Russ that season.
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Joel extremely bias here:
No, Westbrook team was NOT even close to Harden in 2017, he had TWO 6th Men of the year coming off the bench while Russ couldn't even come off the floor. His 2nd best player had zero playoff experience (Oladipo) and his 3rd became unplayable (Kanter).
Russ lead the league in scoring, lead the league in clutch points and 2nd in assist and had legit NO roster.
Garden trash
Well, it’s Bleacher Report. They suck.
Harden sucked in the playoffs.
He doesn't have a ring because he averages 13 points in the final games of his series in his career. He just cant stop choking.
This number shi be blowing me, era matters, eye test matters, the comp ur going against matters, CONTEXT matters 😂
I’m sorry it’s no way I’m taking sga over embiid I’m sorry. Idc if dawg had 5 rings 😂Ik what my eyes see
His fg % is so high. Cuz if he misses they call foul.
Respect this convo – hard to actually fathom Shai rn in the moment
How do you say shai has less turnovers and yet passes less 😂. Shai only has better efficiency and slightly better defense. He's in no way a better scorer or passer, I don't even think Shai has better handles than James Harden lol
Sga> harden
Well if okc didnt trade him he wouldve had 0 MVPs
Give me peak harden over sga cmon bruh. 36 ppg? And a way better passer. Yall gotta stop with the recency bias
I hate Shai and the Harden argument is just dumb
Joel really dragged this shit man. Turned a Shai segment into a harden glaze fest. Gtfoh man….
Shai is over a lot of people. Imma be back after the 3 peat! Kobe convos in 2028😂😂😂
Regular season, SGA and Harden at that peaks are really close offensively. SGA is a better defender although Harden is underrated. In the playoffs, it just isn’t close. Take SGA all day
So what what we're saying is Shai isn't as good cause he has a better squad? I think I'm living in the multiverse now cause that makes no sense
The hate for harden is something I will never understand fr. It’s like he did something to yall personally or something.
Sga just passed wilts record for most consecutive 20 point games. He also just dropped 71 points of offense with 0 turnovers against the nuggets. He is one of the most consistent and efficient guards of all time. Also nash is way closer to sga then Harden is.
Shai still needs to get there but players with at least 2 titles and 2 MVPs in 9 total:
Jordan
Lebron
Kareem
Bill Russell
Wilt
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Steph
Thats the whole list and Shai might join that list soon.
Dude I’m sorry man but if u have to literally make up scenarios and give harden extra accolades because you “think” he should won it then what are we doing 😂😂😂😂. Also the minute u deadass said u think harden shoulda won mvp in 2015 over steph i had to just pause and laugh 😂😂😂. Harden was great but when u take the shoulda coulda woulda route all ur doing is making harden look worse. It’s laughable to just say harden shoulda been 3x mvp, 3x champion. How far from reality do u have to drift to make harden be better than Shai lol
SGA is not better than Luka Doncic. Period
Shai has some of the best defensive numbers in the league
Harden – 6x 1st team all nba, 6x top 5 mvp, 3x 30 ppg in 17 seasons
Shai – 4x 1st team all nba, 4x top 5 MVP, 4x 30 ppg in 8 seasons
Kawhi “out 6-8 weeks” Leonard had a higher peak than Shai?? He hit that one shot against Philly and beat the hospital Warriors wtf 😂
He really likes James Harden.. lol
Shai I better than harden at everything but playmaking this isn’t a discussion
Next question 🙋🏿♂️ nobody is better then Westbrook nobody 🗣️
How on this planet earth SGA is not on the top 100 are we fucking kidding me? Do anyone realize that Shai is the only player that is always the best player whenever he is on the floor nobody on his team every out scored his offensively on every other team their best player isn’t always there best score. We have lots of haters mann
The guy with 2 MVPs 2 Finals MVPs and averaging 30 off 50% for 4 straight seasons would still be behind notorious playoff dropper James Harden. What are we doing
How can yall not bring up defense? Even if Shai has a great defense around him he himself is a way better defender than harden
Ngl I’m not hearing Shai better offensively he’s not harden was a amazing playmaker and makes his teammates so much better so I’m taking harden I’m sorry if harden had dort caruso Chet jdub and hartenstien on defense come on man
SGA has already surpassed Kobe. About to double him up in MVP. 4 straight 30+ppg with 50%+ shooting seasons. Kobe has never done that. Not once.
Hardens nerves kick in in the playoffs, he hasn’t handled that clutch well. There’s a reel with Kobe and McGrady saying what Harden is doing will work in the regular season but in the playoffs he’ll never win a championship with that style
https://youtu.be/a3jHqWvgc1g?si=QlH8rE2BeCr8-xee
Bleacher report leaving Shai off that top 100 was the most egregious thing I’ve ever seen, and made me stop taking bleacher report seriously, considering they put current players on that list who have not come close to accomplishing what Shai has accomplished. The bias on that list was incredibly evident
Moved on from talking about Harden for 5 minutes and then bro brings it up AGAIN just to bring up more absurd what if questions.
Shai wouldnt let his team miss 29 3s in a row to choke a game 7 vs gsw. Harden is a regular season warrior much less efficient too
Harden go watch the damn tape man my goodness did we forget already…
I want MATT back not this idiot 😡👎👎👎👎
I find it funny how they keep saying “2rings 2 finals mvp” can the man actually do it first? NBA community did this same dumb shit with jokic Giannis Jayson Tatum. Then God forbid Shai looses or a key player on his team gets hurt then he gets slandered smfh
Also in terms of gardens MVPs Imo he should win in 15 19 along with the mvp he won in 18. 17 is debatable but it’s really hard to argue against Russ that season.