Does Jokic Deserve the Hype?! 🔥 | THE ODD COUPLE
THE ODD COUPLE:The Odd Couple’s Kelvin Washington and Ephraim Salaam debate if Nikola Jokić’s reputation matches his playoff success with the Denver Nuggets.
Fair criticism—or bad narrative?
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27 Comments
People are forgetting the Nuggets lost Jamal Murray for a whole year and had 5'10" Facundo running point guard in 22 lol
Jokic probably did the most with the least as far as supporting cast goes in the 2020's era
Giannis been a flash in the pan, and Jokic is there as well.
Jokic only started winning when he started flopping & thats why im not the BIGGEST fan of him.
These guys a idiots!! How do they have their own podcast
Excuses is like a holes, and Ephraim gave Jokic a thousand of em
He should have won in 2020, 2024 (Minn Jamal murray didn't show up), 2025 the okc vs den (was the the championship series)
This guy knows well that Jokic has three MVPs, but deliberately says he has two to minimize his success. It's not accidental. Jokic deserved six MVPs, and that is the opinion of many NBA legends. Jokic would have won more titles with Kobe than Shaq. Xenophobia and racism are incurable diseases. I am Asian and not biased, but I see how African Americans treat white players, especially those who are not from America.
Jesse Lee Peterson filling in for Rob Parker that’s great
He won 3 MVPs man plus you put joker on once when what friends on the team you have
Jokic boosters are delusional
We need to make a difference between team play and individual play
Put joker on okc then what depends on the franchise and team your on our joker in Celtics and Lakers in the 90 s then what depends man
Joker cares about winning that horse race trophy he cries for horse getting that trophy. NBA is about a job oand making money
Right in depends on franchise and luck sometimes
Even if joker gets another ring they will still disrespect joker
The man has 46 points and 38 rebounds and 38 assists in his last two games you guys need to shut the f**** he's so far and away better than everybody else I don't this isn't even worth discussing he's already carried a team to a championship you guys are talking s*** that you don't understand you obviously aren't basketball fans if you sit and say some of the dumb s*** I just heard here
Its a different era. Why are you talking about kareem staying in the finals? There's more parity now. Your example of modern dominance is the Celtics? We all know the East is up for grabs.
I'm sorry but the take that Jokic hasn't won enough to be considered an all time great like almost everyone regards him is laughable nonsense and click bait. Wow. Talk about a zero context POV. Nuggets first time in the playoffs, 2019, as a bunch of guys in their early 20's they missed making the WCF with a last possession loss in game 7 of round 2. In 2020 they lost in the WCF. In 2021 they got Aaron Gordon and were steamrolling teams as a contender until Murray blew out his ACL so they had no chance in the playoff setting. Murray–along with MPJ–missed the entire following season including the playoffs. In 2023, their first time fully healthy going into the playoffs, they steamrolled everybody to the title. In 2024 and 2025 their braindead GM–Calvin Booth–allowed the roster strength to deteriorate for 2 straight years which got him fired, rightfully so. Great roster this year but absolutely wrecked by long term injuries to the entire roster all year long. Now finally healthy, we'll see what they can do. This is the first year Jokic has ever had an all star team mate, let alone an all NBA running mate. Are we going to punish Jokic for the Nuggets weak rosters and terrible injury luck? Are we going to punish Giannis for the same 'sins?' Again, this is an absurd take. Both have absolutely carried their respective franchises for years.
Jokic is a victim of his circumstances. You all want to say he isnt what he is but the Nuggets have the 2nd most wins since 2020 and he hasnt had a full quality team. His TDs are as legit as they come and his defense was good enough to win a championship. He will go down as one of the best players ever.
Jokic had played with 0 all stars prior to this year bro
Hell LeBron's won four championships and people talk like he's never even won a playoff game.
Several things they forget: In the buble Jokic reached his peak but he was sentenced not to have his best players Murray and MPJ in 2 following years 2021 and 2022. In those years he was the best player in nba but most he could do was bring team to playofs and lose in 1st or 2nd night. Then came 2023 when Murray returned and they win the chip. The next season they lost game 7 to Minesota which was a huge offset. Last year they had no chance against Okc with stacked up defenders and AG injured in last game. This is not an excuse but that is just how his career rolled. Nuggets took him for granted not making enough moves around him in previous years showing they they're not on level on other organisation such as Celtics, LA etc. This year front office finally made some moves and he has players around him that in my opinion should provide him a deep PO run but bear in mind, lot of other teams are now stacked with quality players on offence and defense and it want be easy.
OK , when you said that about Joker can we look some other things like – squad around.
Luka in LA have Le Bron , jokic have Murray one in five games at best.
Brah.
Murray missed 2021 and 2022 playoffs season
MPJ missed 2022
They win in 2023
Jamal had a calf injury in 2024
Gordon Hamstring and MPJ shoulder in 2025.
On top of that Jokic never played with an all star ( until this year) and all the greats u mentioned did.
Jokic has 3 mvps. How is Giannis more successful? Had Joker been in the East, he would camp in the conference finals
its a team sport?
This guy is a fucking tool. Jokić is top ten all time. It takes a FUCKING TEAM to win championship.