The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo and Joe House for the annual NBA over/unders podcast. In this clip, they discuss the Warriors’ ongoing Draymond drama and whether they can overcome it to make another championship run.
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Can we have the whole podcast video release each week?
Draymond just jealous
I hate petty fans who aren’t optimistic
Is there somewhere I can watch the entire podcast with video ? On their website and on spotify I think it's audio only and I think there are only select clips on youtube. Can anyone help ?
I'd be very curious to hear where each guy thinks Draymond ranks on the GSW in terms of importance to winning that last chip. Because it could be anywhere from 2 to 4. I think it's 2/3 but I feel like Bill thinks it's 4.
Not to diminish Draymond's current impact or place in team history but stepping out a bit closer to basketball gods territory, it feels to me, a warrior fan, like there is a way to balance the ledger of the warriors dynasty, and I'm talking about the hate from the KD years and for me i thought bailing on Oakland for San Francisco was a shakey move, although I think that was appeased by two years of being horrid and Klay's christ like martyrdom (😆😆😆)… but to achieve this balance, Draymond needs to go and everyone else needs to figure out how to fill in where they're lacking his heart.
I'm definitely not saying this makes GSW a better basketball team, I'm saying this makes them more like a normal team again, almost like 2015 when they had to figure it out. Not quite bc Poole and Wiggins were key but Wiseman Kuminga and Moody are pretty new to this level.
I think, work something out, Draymond to the Lakers so he can enmesh himself in all the media, maybe Westbrook to somewhere and expiring contracts back to GSW.
This to me feels fair to all parties
Edit:
Also, we might get to see PatBev get punched and that's like secondary GSW karma +s 😆
First of all we don't know what else led up to that punch!
All we see is a 15 second video clip we certainly don't get the whole story.
Secondly Draymond Green was guarding Jalen Brown in the finals because no one else on the team could. Klay Thompson had no chance guarding Jalen Brown. Jordan pool could not even stay on the floor in the beginning of the series. He was too much of a liability on defense.
I don't know if people forget about the finals or weren't really watching what was happening out there Draymond guarded Jalen Brown forced him to his left and made him shoot jumpers.
Jordan pool could not stop anyone
give us the full videos mate, even if it's for no other reason than I'm English and called you mate, has to be worth something.
I just can't imagine working with a guy like that. I wouldn't even want to go on his podcast. What if I offend him? Will he punch me? Old dogs always go down biting.
Good NBA talk.
I think they only missed one key aspect of the Draymond situation… his public image after the leak video. Part of Draymonds success recipe is flirting with the boundaries of the rules. „You can‘t kick me out and ruin the the tv broadcast. People paying to see me play is more important than sticking to the rules all the time“
That s the bet he s willing to take and get in the other teams head. I think he even openly explained it on his podcast.
Now that his image has changed a lot of players will look to pay him back and refs will not accept Draymonds antics anymore like they did in the past.
I believe that is a huge problem for Draymond. He s handcuffed, having to play on it s best behavior. Imagine him in a regular „two players pushing each other and exchange words“ situation.
The Poole incident will be in the air. He s a public bully and violent abuser type now.
I have no idea how Golden State can make that work
Explain how u push someone and not expect a punch 🤔 is that beyond any realm of possibility
Draymond is still the leader of that team and defensive anchor. When he gets traded the warriors will never win another chip
As soon as House said “Draymond punched me” I lost it. 😂😂😂
Bill, Ryen, House, I've been a basketball fan for over 50 years and I'm a fan of Draymond's play when he's not playing dirty. How is what Draymond did to Poole not criminal assault? If Ryen did this to Bill, or vice versa, wouldn't that be assault?
I like how no one is asking to hear Jordan’s take…you can already see how he’s approaching these preseason games and you an clearly tell that he’s picturing Draymonds face on every defender.
I hope their a follow up to this prediction to the Warrior after the season, see you in late June.
As a warrior fan I point to the 2015, 2017,2018, 2022 when they won it all. This dynasty was 40 years in the making, I dont forget the low years either, but it was before my time.
GS can't get rid of him soon enough.
He cost the greatest team ever a championship with his bs.
He almost cost them a championship last year.
He cost them at least 2 or 3 championships with the KD bs.
Draymond is a cancer.
Draymond is a horrible player that has to be benched in the Finals.
I'm not particularly a fan of draymond–he get's away with way too much. he literaly tackled a grizzlies player and pulled jaylen brown's pants down. but, having said that, they can't win a title without him and they know it.
Those guys seem to not have noticed that Curry was injured last year.
I’ve always agreed w/ Russillo more than anyone else in sports. Bill always over exaggerates and I’m never sure if his a shtick or he genuine feels that way. But he’s excusing MJ beating down Kerr while saying there’s no coming back from what Draymond did. Obviously they’ll come back from it. Even if Poole and Dray don’t squash it, they’ll play together to win together. Westbrook and the Lakers teammates have a bigger issue than Pool and Dray. Bill talks about playing sports when he was younger, but you could never tell by the way he covers NBA and NFL
Would be a panic move to trade draymond and only draw more media attention and drama
Draymond takes pressure away from steph
Simple don't do anything if Poole csnt get over it then trade him for something valuable since he's young and valuable
Drsymonds not going to yield a great return and every reporter eill be asking steph if he okay the trade
We need Drunk House t-shirts.
No. They lost defense for some decent offense guys but that’s gonna take looks away from the splash bros. Net negative.
2. The rooks had it too easy. They still don’t understand what’s needed to lead a championship team. Too much yapping and underserved overconfidence.
3. You have HOF guys and there’s no bench, just rookie noobs coming in and unable to hold a lead in an nba game, let alone win at the g league level.
Warriors are going to repeat. They need to be doubted to win.