Pretty bad argument tbh. Heās playing above his career average, sure, but his career average is not at all the same as his MVP numbers over the past two seasons.
In 2022 he averaged 14 rebounds and 27 points. His career average is 19 points and 10 boards. He could do it again, which I would of course love, but to say that his current numbers this season are MVP level is totally off
fence55
For one thing, itās too early to be making declarations of MVP contention; but if we are basing the argument on these first couple of weeks then itās the height of homerism to say Jokic looks like the MVP. Heāll play himself into the conversation at some point but right now? Cāmon.
steve1186
Voter fatigue is very real. The returns of Murray and MPJ also make it harder for him to win MVP. A primary argument for him winning last year was that he was dragging a ragtag group of supporting players to a good season.
Feel like it would take a 30/15/8 average and a top-2 seed in the West for him to win a 3rd MVP in a row.
That being said, I donāt think he gives a flying fuck about winning MVP. Heās one of the few elite players who arenāt going to pad their stats to win an award assigned by writers.
Behold-D-Gold-17
Agree, last year everyone was looking to anointe a new MVP to replace Jokic (Embiid), PHI starts this year 0-fer and the talk has already stopped there in its tracks, Luca is still the same Luca that appears he already hit his ceiling at a young age, Morant is already sliding without support, Durant still canāt put the Nets on his back along with KI to anchor him down with a cloud upon the Nets, Tatum is flat out boring with just a nice jump shot with nothing else to make him deserving, Curry has been so spectacular his whole career when not injured that spectacular is not good enough anymore since most just expect for him to do what he does, bottom line is that none of the previous mentioned have shown that they can carry their teams on their back to prove that they are the teams MVP except Curry( itās expected of him)Now you are left with the āGreekā and the āJokerā, Bucks are off to a great start with the Greek carrying the load , if he stays healthy he will be the only competition to Joker getting his trifecta of the MVP trophy, this will all pan out come late January thru February when Joker by then has demolished a few more records and the Nuggets are looking like their on the way to a Finals , last year Joker became the man to carry the Nuggets as far as he did after the injuries on the team, if the Nuggets stay healthy, people will now say after his stats and all, look now Joker now lead them to the Promise Land, imho, The Greek is the only one that can stand between Joker and his MVP Trophy, todays odds are Greek +325, āthe VALUEā is with Joker +2000, Today Iām putting $ 100 to win 2000 on the ā Joker ā and another 100 to win the Western Conference Final since thatās what itās going to take.
clancydog4
Luka and Giannis are unquestionably above him right now in the MVP race, as are several others. Granted, “the MVP race” this early in the season isn’t even a thing. But it is a wildly homer take to say he’s been the MVP of the league up to this point
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Pretty bad argument tbh. Heās playing above his career average, sure, but his career average is not at all the same as his MVP numbers over the past two seasons.
In 2022 he averaged 14 rebounds and 27 points. His career average is 19 points and 10 boards. He could do it again, which I would of course love, but to say that his current numbers this season are MVP level is totally off
For one thing, itās too early to be making declarations of MVP contention; but if we are basing the argument on these first couple of weeks then itās the height of homerism to say Jokic looks like the MVP. Heāll play himself into the conversation at some point but right now? Cāmon.
Voter fatigue is very real. The returns of Murray and MPJ also make it harder for him to win MVP. A primary argument for him winning last year was that he was dragging a ragtag group of supporting players to a good season.
Feel like it would take a 30/15/8 average and a top-2 seed in the West for him to win a 3rd MVP in a row.
That being said, I donāt think he gives a flying fuck about winning MVP. Heās one of the few elite players who arenāt going to pad their stats to win an award assigned by writers.
Agree, last year everyone was looking to anointe a new MVP to replace Jokic (Embiid), PHI starts this year 0-fer and the talk has already stopped there in its tracks, Luca is still the same Luca that appears he already hit his ceiling at a young age, Morant is already sliding without support, Durant still canāt put the Nets on his back along with KI to anchor him down with a cloud upon the Nets, Tatum is flat out boring with just a nice jump shot with nothing else to make him deserving, Curry has been so spectacular his whole career when not injured that spectacular is not good enough anymore since most just expect for him to do what he does, bottom line is that none of the previous mentioned have shown that they can carry their teams on their back to prove that they are the teams MVP except Curry( itās expected of him)Now you are left with the āGreekā and the āJokerā, Bucks are off to a great start with the Greek carrying the load , if he stays healthy he will be the only competition to Joker getting his trifecta of the MVP trophy, this will all pan out come late January thru February when Joker by then has demolished a few more records and the Nuggets are looking like their on the way to a Finals , last year Joker became the man to carry the Nuggets as far as he did after the injuries on the team, if the Nuggets stay healthy, people will now say after his stats and all, look now Joker now lead them to the Promise Land, imho, The Greek is the only one that can stand between Joker and his MVP Trophy, todays odds are Greek +325, āthe VALUEā is with Joker +2000, Today Iām putting $ 100 to win 2000 on the ā Joker ā and another 100 to win the Western Conference Final since thatās what itās going to take.
Luka and Giannis are unquestionably above him right now in the MVP race, as are several others. Granted, “the MVP race” this early in the season isn’t even a thing. But it is a wildly homer take to say he’s been the MVP of the league up to this point