We also have him under $30m untill 2026. He will certainly stay around 50th highest paid player considering once guys get off Rookie scale contracts they can sign for big money. We’re about to see LaMelo, Ant Edwards, Halliburton get the bag this on these extension this year.
Randle legit has one of the best contracts in the league. If we trade him it should be for a star, not two first rounders.
Chr1s78987x
Julius is nearly untouchable in my eyes. The only scenario where I’d move him is if we’re getting a clear superstar back.
Not only is he having an outstanding season but he’s on a bargain of a contract which allows us to easily build around him
Kingkunta87
Because people are stupid
Low-Bug-4156
Cuz randle isn’t the guy. Sell high while his value is high
HokageEzio
Because if “our guy” isn’t “the guy”, they’re expendable. If you do not see a future where Julius Randle holds up the Larry O’Brien trophy in a Knick uniform, you have to think about it.
It’s not an easy decision, that’s why they didn’t do it in 2020. And that backfired on them badly. But you’re not paid millions as a front office for easy decisions. You at least pick up the phone.
teknomatic
Obviously no one is untouchable. But right now I’m only trading Julius if it’s part of a package to bring in an even better player.
I don’t want the picks. There’s no guarantee that any of the picks we could get from trading Randle would even end up as good as he is playing right now.
If you want to be able to trade those picks later for a star, you’re just adding unnecessary steps to the process. He himself is a more valuable trade asset now for a potential trade than any pick.
iamdanabnormal
Ari’s an idiot and a cloutchaser.
Lyin-Don
I hope Ari’s express runs local.
QnsPrince
Hes not our guy
Cautious-Ad-9554
Under 2 months ago he was in his feelings and had boycotted defense and running the floor. If they get offered 2 picks and an expiring and turn down that offer they are morons
solo118
We have enough picks, I want a star in return if he is traded. and who the hell is this guy ari
Teewrecks7
Randle is a really good and skilled player, but him as your number 1 (your guy) makes for a really limited ceiling. My fear with Randle is he isn’t as dominant against those truly elite teams. But honestly shout out to him for the bounce back season, the improvement in efficiency is great but really happy he’s flipped his attitude.
& lastly If you trade him for picks now, it’s such a bad look, no one would ever sign here after that.
skimcpip
I’m also annoyed that Ari from Manhattan has a different opinion from me and that every person doesn’t have uniform opinions.
charlesfluidsmith
He is right. This is the time to trade him.
His decision making isn’t suddenly getting better, and he isn’t going to suddenly be comfortable with a better player coming in and being the number 1 option.
You gotta take emotion out of it.
Fungmar
“zero excuse” mf hes putting up lebron numbers theres definitely an excuse lol. im not even saying we should or shouldn’t but cmon now
whydoesgodhateus
I was on the trade Julius train after off season but now, nah keep him. He’s balling his ass off and his contract is actually ok for what he provides.
I don’t think we’ll really go anywhere with him as our number 1 option but that’s not his fault. Elite players don’t grow on trees. Just stay the course and if the opportunity presents itself to get another star, pounce on it.
spreerod1538
We have enough 1st round picks already… keep the borederline all NBA player.
analogbeepboop
For those that are saying we keep him, we need to ride with him when he’s having his lows as well and show him our support
AdPresent6173
Can someone explain to me why it makes sense to trade Julius for draft picks? If the plan is to trade for a star and we’d be over the cap regardless; how does it make sense to trade the best player on the team?
karlbrunswick
This guy is the worst type of knick fan.
TheJiggie
OK, then what?
This obsession some Knicks fans have with trading an All-Star Caliber player, for the sake of trading him is so weird. He’s not old, his contract is not unreasonable and he consistently performs… like, what more do you want? Trade high, stock pile picks and then just ride the draft lottery forever?
awrk
Saying that his 3 point percentage is unsustainable, so we should trade him, but that it still raises his trade value because NBA GMs must not be able to recognize that is one of more smooth brained trains of logic I’ve ever seen
manfromfuture
Bucks won with Giannis, Chris Middleton and Drew Holliday as their core.
If we could get <Some 30 ppg player>, Randle, Brunson we’d be a realistic contender. I feel like that has been the plan all along. I was against the Mitchell trade but now thinking we should have just given over all of our picks to get him.
Sad_Hungry
The problem with even trading Randle is what team is trading for him that can easily plug in Randle to contend that gives us back something valuable- Randle is an all star and playing well but the performance isn’t the same as doing what he’s doing on a true playoff team. He’s doing more than he would be doing on better teams that are a player away from being contenders – Memphis is one of the only teams I can see Julius helping that has draft picks and assets. But I just don’t see them trading for Julius and see them angling towards OG Anunoby or Siakim instead. I think the Knicks just don’t have a move to make – The Lakers could use Julius but barely have anything to offer. The Suns aren’t parting with Bridges and Cam Johnson, The Nuggets don’t have any valuable assets they can afford to trade for Julius. The Sixers could offer Tobias Harris who is basically an econo-save Julius – no thanks.
I think Julius is very hard to trade and get the better part of the deal.
LiveLeave
As long as we arrange an Ayahuasca retreat for him every off season, I’m happy keeping him. Considering he actually seems to be growing as a person and a player, he probably will retain his value (and his trade value will look even better) further along the contract.
DidiGreglorius
This team is closer than people think. We are 7th (!!) in league SRS right now. Part of the reason we’re underperforming our record is late game execution, so it’s not just randomness, but we have the underlying strength of a genuinely good team. That’s with a rotation all under 28. If Grimes, Barrett, and IQ can show an upward trajectory for the next few years and the others maintain, we are in a legitimately enviable spot.
There’s no reason to look for a Randle trade. This group can be a strong team. He’s outperforming his contract and would be worth it even if he regressed somewhere between now and last year.
If someone offers for him, listen, but I’m only doing it for an actual package. No need to try and get off the contract. Just continue building sustainably, rolling over picks/bench pieces and adding when opportunity presents itself.
erasuli
It’s fun to have a competitive team again and have a chance at being in the playoffs again. We’ve been bad for so long.
But this is year 3 of this FO, the head coach and most of our core players. We have some tough decisions to make after the season.
What is the ceiling for this team? The ceiling was much higher two years ago when Randle was only 26, RJ was in his second year showing big improvements, Obi and Quickley were rookies, and we had a ton of capspace and picks to improve the team. We’ve tried adding pieces to this group the last two years.
Right now our starting lineup is kind of set. But where do you see the improvements coming from? Adding a sixth man? Changing the coach?
I wouldn’t just give Randle away, but if the right deal came up we should be open to it. He can always revert back to the way he was playing last year if things don’t go his way because he’s an emotional guy.
jen36rsantos
Yup. Get rid of the best talent we have to trade for 2 first rounders that we have no idea how they will fair in the nba. How bout we just build around what we have for once. We definitely have a solid foundation to do that
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1) if we trade him it shouldn’t be for draft picks
2) Julius has an incredible contract. He’s the [53rd](https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html) highest paid player. And honestly going to be an all-star. There’s not 52 players better than him.
We also have him under $30m untill 2026. He will certainly stay around 50th highest paid player considering once guys get off Rookie scale contracts they can sign for big money. We’re about to see LaMelo, Ant Edwards, Halliburton get the bag this on these extension this year.
Randle legit has one of the best contracts in the league. If we trade him it should be for a star, not two first rounders.
Julius is nearly untouchable in my eyes. The only scenario where I’d move him is if we’re getting a clear superstar back.
Not only is he having an outstanding season but he’s on a bargain of a contract which allows us to easily build around him
Because people are stupid
Cuz randle isn’t the guy. Sell high while his value is high
Because if “our guy” isn’t “the guy”, they’re expendable. If you do not see a future where Julius Randle holds up the Larry O’Brien trophy in a Knick uniform, you have to think about it.
It’s not an easy decision, that’s why they didn’t do it in 2020. And that backfired on them badly. But you’re not paid millions as a front office for easy decisions. You at least pick up the phone.
Obviously no one is untouchable. But right now I’m only trading Julius if it’s part of a package to bring in an even better player.
I don’t want the picks. There’s no guarantee that any of the picks we could get from trading Randle would even end up as good as he is playing right now.
If you want to be able to trade those picks later for a star, you’re just adding unnecessary steps to the process. He himself is a more valuable trade asset now for a potential trade than any pick.
Ari’s an idiot and a cloutchaser.
I hope Ari’s express runs local.
Hes not our guy
Under 2 months ago he was in his feelings and had boycotted defense and running the floor. If they get offered 2 picks and an expiring and turn down that offer they are morons
We have enough picks, I want a star in return if he is traded. and who the hell is this guy ari
Randle is a really good and skilled player, but him as your number 1 (your guy) makes for a really limited ceiling. My fear with Randle is he isn’t as dominant against those truly elite teams. But honestly shout out to him for the bounce back season, the improvement in efficiency is great but really happy he’s flipped his attitude.
& lastly If you trade him for picks now, it’s such a bad look, no one would ever sign here after that.
I’m also annoyed that Ari from Manhattan has a different opinion from me and that every person doesn’t have uniform opinions.
He is right. This is the time to trade him.
His decision making isn’t suddenly getting better, and he isn’t going to suddenly be comfortable with a better player coming in and being the number 1 option.
You gotta take emotion out of it.
“zero excuse” mf hes putting up lebron numbers theres definitely an excuse lol. im not even saying we should or shouldn’t but cmon now
I was on the trade Julius train after off season but now, nah keep him. He’s balling his ass off and his contract is actually ok for what he provides.
I don’t think we’ll really go anywhere with him as our number 1 option but that’s not his fault. Elite players don’t grow on trees. Just stay the course and if the opportunity presents itself to get another star, pounce on it.
We have enough 1st round picks already… keep the borederline all NBA player.
For those that are saying we keep him, we need to ride with him when he’s having his lows as well and show him our support
Can someone explain to me why it makes sense to trade Julius for draft picks? If the plan is to trade for a star and we’d be over the cap regardless; how does it make sense to trade the best player on the team?
This guy is the worst type of knick fan.
OK, then what?
This obsession some Knicks fans have with trading an All-Star Caliber player, for the sake of trading him is so weird. He’s not old, his contract is not unreasonable and he consistently performs… like, what more do you want? Trade high, stock pile picks and then just ride the draft lottery forever?
Saying that his 3 point percentage is unsustainable, so we should trade him, but that it still raises his trade value because NBA GMs must not be able to recognize that is one of more smooth brained trains of logic I’ve ever seen
Bucks won with Giannis, Chris Middleton and Drew Holliday as their core.
If we could get <Some 30 ppg player>, Randle, Brunson we’d be a realistic contender. I feel like that has been the plan all along. I was against the Mitchell trade but now thinking we should have just given over all of our picks to get him.
The problem with even trading Randle is what team is trading for him that can easily plug in Randle to contend that gives us back something valuable- Randle is an all star and playing well but the performance isn’t the same as doing what he’s doing on a true playoff team. He’s doing more than he would be doing on better teams that are a player away from being contenders – Memphis is one of the only teams I can see Julius helping that has draft picks and assets. But I just don’t see them trading for Julius and see them angling towards OG Anunoby or Siakim instead.
I think the Knicks just don’t have a move to make – The Lakers could use Julius but barely have anything to offer. The Suns aren’t parting with Bridges and Cam Johnson, The Nuggets don’t have any valuable assets they can afford to trade for Julius. The Sixers could offer Tobias Harris who is basically an econo-save Julius – no thanks.
I think Julius is very hard to trade and get the better part of the deal.
As long as we arrange an Ayahuasca retreat for him every off season, I’m happy keeping him. Considering he actually seems to be growing as a person and a player, he probably will retain his value (and his trade value will look even better) further along the contract.
This team is closer than people think. We are 7th (!!) in league SRS right now. Part of the reason we’re underperforming our record is late game execution, so it’s not just randomness, but we have the underlying strength of a genuinely good team. That’s with a rotation all under 28. If Grimes, Barrett, and IQ can show an upward trajectory for the next few years and the others maintain, we are in a legitimately enviable spot.
There’s no reason to look for a Randle trade. This group can be a strong team. He’s outperforming his contract and would be worth it even if he regressed somewhere between now and last year.
If someone offers for him, listen, but I’m only doing it for an actual package. No need to try and get off the contract. Just continue building sustainably, rolling over picks/bench pieces and adding when opportunity presents itself.
It’s fun to have a competitive team again and have a chance at being in the playoffs again. We’ve been bad for so long.
But this is year 3 of this FO, the head coach and most of our core players. We have some tough decisions to make after the season.
What is the ceiling for this team? The ceiling was much higher two years ago when Randle was only 26, RJ was in his second year showing big improvements, Obi and Quickley were rookies, and we had a ton of capspace and picks to improve the team. We’ve tried adding pieces to this group the last two years.
Right now our starting lineup is kind of set. But where do you see the improvements coming from? Adding a sixth man? Changing the coach?
I wouldn’t just give Randle away, but if the right deal came up we should be open to it. He can always revert back to the way he was playing last year if things don’t go his way because he’s an emotional guy.
Yup. Get rid of the best talent we have to trade for 2 first rounders that we have no idea how they will fair in the nba. How bout we just build around what we have for once. We definitely have a solid foundation to do that