I remember being over the moon that day. Had no idea how badly it would set the org back
Moe4ver
Right move at the time. Simply didn’t work out.
I don’t know why fans act like it was like an obvious bad move or overpay like the Gobert trade.
ImpressionableBlip
I don’t care what anyone says, it was a good swing to take. It didn’t work out, but if it hadn’t happened and we heard a rumor today that Cuban passed on this deal 4 years ago we’d be livid.
geargarcon
Still a risk you take every day of the week. Didn’t pan out, but we could be sitting here complaining the Mavs never make any moves. And given the current market for trades, 2 FRPs and a bunch of scrubs is a low price to pay.
The biggest problem in hindsight is the pick protection. Either don’t put on protections or have the FRPs convert to 2 SRPs if not conveyed.
robman17
If this trade is offered 100 times, I would agree to take it 100 times. This was a good trade that didn’t work. This isn’t the front office’s fault. You can’t force on course chemistry, and sometimes pairings look great on paper and just don’t work.
highveganfpv
I miss porzingis. For real for real
dukegrand12
Good Trade. Unfortunate Outcome.
botebote77
i still don’t think the trade was the mistake. the mistake was giving KP 5yr max fully guaranteed
beguapo
I remember exactly where I was when the news broke. I thought we were about to have a dynasty, it’s a shame it didn’t work out.
dragonwhale
How are we so asset deficient today if we only traded 2 first round picks four years ago?
Jlibs_21
The bigger mistake was giving KP a full max without injury protections. The trade itself wasn’t that bad on paper. It was the extension that killed all flexibility
AnJruniverse
Who do you guys think those 2 first round picks would’ve turned into?
IntermittenSeries
Knicks fan, don’t know how or why this is on my doom scroll but THJ was by far the best player in this entire draft and probably worth those picks since neither will be lottery picks
kokolupa
I’d still do this trade
LogansGambit
That trade turned out to be much more trouble than it was worth.
My question is, would KP even have been considered a top 30 player at the time?
bloodydingbat
A swing and a miss. That’s all it was.
Still sour we gave THJ a long term extension, he is earning too much for what he is.
We move.
LechALection
I mean… Hardaway is a solid* contributor. KP got us Winwiddie. I take that all day.
moe1984
in hindsight, and with 1 pick yet to convey, dallas easily won this trade. of the assets the knicks received, all that remains is the aforementioned pick and derrick rose who was acquired using DSJ. meanwhile, dallas still has THJ, turned porzingis into dinwiddie, and used burke and others to get christian wood. in the end, it wasn’t an ideal trade for either team, but dallas actually did something with the assets. the knicks have done jack shit.
desirox
I remember screaming in joy when I read the notification when it happened. Sucks so bad that this didn’t work out
BjornLakenstrazen
Remember Trey Burke in the 2020 playoffs? Man…dafuq happened to him??
bigpqnda
this waas a good move. hell the mavs made it to the playoffs with KP and thj. the bad move is extending KP for that salary or trading barnes for nothing.
iIiiIIiiiIiIIiI111
You swing, you miss.
That’s life. Suck it the fuck up and stop bitching and crying.
NoWayNotThisAgain
I’m the end, we got Dinwiddie, THJ, and Bertans for DSJ, Matthews, and Jordan. When you look at how these guys are playing in 2023 we did great aside from the draft picks.
If that trade was just one first and we get to the WCF, I’d think we did pretty good. As it stands, we overpaid for what we have, but we did get some good value out of that trade. We didn’t end up empty handed.
handsomepj
The Seth Curry for Josh Richardson trade was worse in my opinion.
Inside_Common9200
Was this a 3 team because only Wes played for the Bucks — ever.
Messiah_Knight
Gah damn. We lost so much.
P00_buttz69
Good trade at the time
TsunamiScout
The trade was fine. The 2019 offseason was where it got scary.
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I remember being over the moon that day. Had no idea how badly it would set the org back
Right move at the time. Simply didn’t work out.
I don’t know why fans act like it was like an obvious bad move or overpay like the Gobert trade.
I don’t care what anyone says, it was a good swing to take. It didn’t work out, but if it hadn’t happened and we heard a rumor today that Cuban passed on this deal 4 years ago we’d be livid.
Still a risk you take every day of the week. Didn’t pan out, but we could be sitting here complaining the Mavs never make any moves. And given the current market for trades, 2 FRPs and a bunch of scrubs is a low price to pay.
The biggest problem in hindsight is the pick protection. Either don’t put on protections or have the FRPs convert to 2 SRPs if not conveyed.
If this trade is offered 100 times, I would agree to take it 100 times. This was a good trade that didn’t work. This isn’t the front office’s fault. You can’t force on course chemistry, and sometimes pairings look great on paper and just don’t work.
I miss porzingis. For real for real
Good Trade. Unfortunate Outcome.
i still don’t think the trade was the mistake. the mistake was giving KP 5yr max fully guaranteed
I remember exactly where I was when the news broke. I thought we were about to have a dynasty, it’s a shame it didn’t work out.
How are we so asset deficient today if we only traded 2 first round picks four years ago?
The bigger mistake was giving KP a full max without injury protections. The trade itself wasn’t that bad on paper. It was the extension that killed all flexibility
Who do you guys think those 2 first round picks would’ve turned into?
Knicks fan, don’t know how or why this is on my doom scroll but THJ was by far the best player in this entire draft and probably worth those picks since neither will be lottery picks
I’d still do this trade
That trade turned out to be much more trouble than it was worth.
My question is, would KP even have been considered a top 30 player at the time?
A swing and a miss. That’s all it was.
Still sour we gave THJ a long term extension, he is earning too much for what he is.
We move.
I mean… Hardaway is a solid* contributor. KP got us Winwiddie. I take that all day.
in hindsight, and with 1 pick yet to convey, dallas easily won this trade. of the assets the knicks received, all that remains is the aforementioned pick and derrick rose who was acquired using DSJ. meanwhile, dallas still has THJ, turned porzingis into dinwiddie, and used burke and others to get christian wood. in the end, it wasn’t an ideal trade for either team, but dallas actually did something with the assets. the knicks have done jack shit.
I remember screaming in joy when I read the notification when it happened. Sucks so bad that this didn’t work out
Remember Trey Burke in the 2020 playoffs? Man…dafuq happened to him??
this waas a good move. hell the mavs made it to the playoffs with KP and thj. the bad move is extending KP for that salary or trading barnes for nothing.
You swing, you miss.
That’s life. Suck it the fuck up and stop bitching and crying.
I’m the end, we got Dinwiddie, THJ, and Bertans for DSJ, Matthews, and Jordan. When you look at how these guys are playing in 2023 we did great aside from the draft picks.
If that trade was just one first and we get to the WCF, I’d think we did pretty good. As it stands, we overpaid for what we have, but we did get some good value out of that trade. We didn’t end up empty handed.
The Seth Curry for Josh Richardson trade was worse in my opinion.
Was this a 3 team because only Wes played for the Bucks — ever.
Gah damn. We lost so much.
Good trade at the time
The trade was fine. The 2019 offseason was where it got scary.