Derrick and Richard White: The Game Winner, Fatherhood & Celtics fandom

Derrick and Richard White: The Game Winner, Fatherhood & Celtics fandom

What’s up everyone this is Mark Deo I just want to say thank you for giving us a listen or a watch and please do not forget to rate subscribe or review us we appreciate you giving us a listen and here’s the next episode of view from the Rapters behind the scenes with the

Boston Celtics presented by Flex car all right I’m going to start out like this guys all right my wife gave me this sweatshirt for Christmas this year I said I was not going to wear until our little girl comes into the world and the only way that I would was if this

Podcast happened I swear to God this happen so this podcast is happening it’s a special podcast our first fatherson podcast we’ve got Celtics star Derek white his father Celtic’s Twitter star Richard white on the on the Pod today so we appreciate you guys coming on but um

Derek the way that your dad has garnered such Fame in Celtics Twitter verse you’ve known him forever did you kind of expect that this might happen here in Boston um not exactly ly um I mean he kind of tweeted a little bit in San

Antonio but it wasn’t as uh as big of a a following as he has now and um I he’s kind of always been this way so um it’s cool to see everybody um love him so much and I know he loves to do it so

It’s just it all works out and you came on this podcast right after you got traded here I don’t know if you remember that but we had the conversation you had mentioned and we’ve heard it many times that you were born in Boston you were here until you were eight or nine years

Old rich this has got to be just such a crazy ride for you watching your son go from lightly recruited in high school to now being a star for the Celtics that you idolized growing up explain like how this happened I mean I I don’t know how

It happened I me I mean it just it just you just enjoy the ride as as it comes it’s kind of kind of surreal that’s that’s the word we use on on draft day is that it’s just it just happened and we’re enjoying the ride I mean that

That’s for sure I mean like I said I was a lifelong Celtic fan so born in 1960 so it’s like the Celtics always won I didn’t know any different then we come here the first year and we’re like we’re in the finals it’s like what what’s

Going on so having that taste it’s like yeah the next step is the next step that’s that’s what everybody’s looking for how about this is Boston street cred people are like well he comes from Boston yeah now my dad took me to get haircuts when I

Was but nothing like the ones that your dad took you to get tell everybody why why um so it’s like uh if the Celtics were like on a long road trip uh my dad would time it so when they got back they would all come to get their hair haircut so we

Kind of knew where the barber shop was so I was taken to that barber shop so um I just remembered the you know or I was told that I just like lost it and cried in front of people like you know Bill Russell and Sam Jones Casey Jones you

Know you know all the the Celtic Legends and he even told me that you know like sat Sanders came to the house and everything so I just thought I was you know part of part of royalty I mean it’s like these guys win they’re always winning and and we didn’t know anything

Really different and then we moved in 1968 so I think maybe you know that was when you know they they lost so it’s like oh it’s us so but everything’s back now so we well you were a forerunner to expectations in Boston that we all deal with now on social

Media and otherwise it’s come full circle to where now the Millennials if you’re under the age of 35 in Boston you’ve had six Super Bowl titles and an NBA title and a Stanley Cup and four World Series which is incomprehensible to previous generation and I just find

That so fascinating that you grew up in a time where all the Celtics did was win now we’re in a time that everybody expects nothing but that yeah they they expect winning which is that that’s the way you you really want it you you don’t

Want to be at a place where you know it you’re you’re you’re just watching the games I mean there’s like expectation expectation comes pressure but if you’re really good you want to be in that moment you don’t want to be playing out the string anytime that there’s there’s

A game you want to know that hey if I make this play or I don’t make this play it has a direct correlation to winning or losing you touched on winning right there and that that’s the biggest thing that has come across since you got here

Is you’re a winner like you you help a team win games when did you personally start to feel that you were impacting games like in your basketball career not necessarily in the NBA but like when did you learn how to impact games in that way and then Richard as a follow follow

Up after he answers when did you start seeing him do that in his career um I mean I I don’t know I kind of feel like it’s always been that way I mean he probably he remembers my childhood games better than I do um like third and fourth grade so I’m sure he’s

Going to tell a story about that but uh were you charting his secondary assists back in third grade rating net rating secondary assist no they have to use websites for that that those calculations are above me but uh I don’t know I just kind of always I

Mean I learned from him um just kind of always try to make the right play um I mean I think I’ve just played a lot of different roles in my basketball career from elementary to high school um like I was off the ball in high school uh I get

To College um I was going to be off the ball then I was the point guard and so like I’ve played pretty much every role the on the court I feel like and so I just feel comfortable out there wherever the team needs me to be and um I mean he

Taught me how to play the right way way and I saw I just try to continue to play the right way and um obviously that’s helping us win games and that’s what makes us happy did you see it at any point where it kind of clicked in your

Mind of what you were watching on the court because I know just seeing you on Twitter like you see the game you see the game is there a point where you saw that he was really making the plays that were winning plays he was a winning

Player well I mean his his one play from his youth it was it was a winning play and none of us dad coaches saw it so they were playing a game which kind of turned everything around cuz that’s how we met Marcus and everything was they

Had won all the youth games and then so they basically were in the championship all the time and this one year they were going to get to go play at the University of Denver and uh so it was like we wanted to win that one because

They played so well they deserve to be on that big stage whether they won or lost they deserve to be on that big stage and so they were they were down at the end of the game it was like under 15 seconds so there’s no three-point field

Goal in that game but so they came down and him and his best friend ree Elliott ran high screen and roll and uh they jumped Derek and he passed thees and he made the shot so you know was coaches were like get back get back cover You

Know cover cover cover and then all of a sudden we hear this shriek and the moms are all screaming and we’re going well what happened Derek stole the inbound pass and laid it in so we’re up three there’s no three-point there’s no three-point play and so we we we end up

Winning that game that’s awesome you remember that I’m sure uh I remember parts of it um sounds like Dad remembers it pretty well he don’t he doesn’t forget anything um from a childhood to my first couple years in NBA to now so um it does I do remember parts of it um

I do remember it being a cool to play at of college Arena and so like that was a big win for us and um yeah I mean you weren’t really allowed to press unless the last two minutes and so it kind of kind of in the right place at the

Right time and and got the steal and the layup you’ve done that a few times in your career we’ll touch on that yeah Derek you and I have talked about the phone call from pop about the trade happening that he called the wrong room the whole comedy element of that as we

Sit here today I was thinking we’ve talked so much about that what was the call like to your dad to say you’re not going to believe this but of all the places in all the world guess where I’m going yeah um I mean I feel like um he

Was the happiest person uh in the world that day um I think everybody else was like my mom was like I was worried about Hannah and like what about the baby and this and that little birth plan went took a little left turn by the way just

So everyone knows his wife was months pregnant at that time so yeah so like they’re thinking of all the the real world stuff and my dad’s over here running around like oh you can wear number nine again and uh all the important stuff that he was thinking

About so um I think he was definitely excited I mean obviously get traded to a team he grew up cheering for but also a team that was um winning at the time and competing for uh the championship so I think um as a basketball side of things

He was he was so excited and um you couldn’t wait for it you remember that day oh I remember that day I yeah sitting sitting up in the in the office and then he called and said I’ve been traded and I said well where and he said

Boston and so I was like oh that was that you know that’s that was that was great I mean you could kind of go through different different scenarios and stuff and you know they just got pretty much done playing feba you know and smart and Tatum and brown they’re

They’re all there and it’s like oh well you know if you get traded you know one which team has a nine and and two which one which one has you know you know some talented people CU we kind of you know I mentioned in passing to him that if you

Can get on a team where you’re considered the fourth or fifth best person that team’s going to be really good CU I’m not worried about I’m not worried about you I but the others if they’re truly I mean you can you could be advanced in your role but if you’re

Fourth or fifth I know what you’re going to bring and that you will you will like chameleon into whatever role is necessary because some people can be fourth or fifth role people and they can only do like one thing they can only shoot from you know from the corner but

You Derek you can I mean you scored 36 points in a playoff game against the Nuggets you’ve you’ve done things where you’ve played and made defensive stands here and there so you could do whatever the team needs to win and that’s always going to going to help the team so the

Celtics were like oh that would you know you don’t think that’s a possibility that’s like way way up there but I mean you got the Jays you know and it was just loaded and you were playing with Marcus Smart and now you’re playing with Drew holiday it’s you know in San

Antonio they always said oh you know we can’t wait to have Derek and deante but they never played them so here you know you’re playing and and you can see when a defense the back court takes over a game and makes it difficult he’s talking about how you’re kind of like willing to

Take on any role and earlier you mentioned that he’s kind of the person who instilled the the winning mindset in you how did he impact like your the way that you approach the game from a young age until now um I mean I think uh we always watch

Games together um growing up as a kid uh so just like hearing what he was saying yeah mostly nuggets games um so just hearing what he was saying um and then like anytime I ever wanted to go shoot or something like he was always done to

To rebound for me or whatever need to be um I don’t know if I ever told you this but uh we were playing at Lifetime and like he was kind of ging up and down the court but like just to see like how much

He wanted to be there for me and um to play with me like it meant a lot to me and like kind of pushed me to to keep going and keep working hard like like my dad is he’s struggling but he is still he still wants to be there for me and

He’s still doing things he’s doing to to be there for me so like why can’t I work hard why can’t I do more um and so like anytime I need anything I don’t know if he he missed the game in college like he was always there supporting me him and

My mom and um I mean them two he just really been supporting me through it all so um it’s still that hard work and then just play the right way and be a good person you remember that day when you were gimping up and down the court but

Oh yeah well yeah cuz you’re like which day had to and then and then they were like oh we we don’t really need your dad anymore so D’s fine by himself D was fine by himself so you know it was just to get him out there you know I could I

Could go around I could set screens and you know get get a rebound and then pass the ball to him so that that’s how it worked it had to be tough for you you know watching him in high school watching him in college he’s right down

The road and and for you he’s able to support you at those games when you get into the league what’s the situation there of of you and your wife not necessarily being able to be at every game like you were for your whole lives and then here in Boston it’s the same

Thing obvious obviously you’re out here now which is awesome you’re here for a week or so to be able to catch this home stand but it had to have been tough for you to that adjustment of not seeing him play in person every game yeah but you

Know League Pass comes in comes in handy so that that don’t underestimate the role of the announcers and the play-by-play people in the NBA delivering the products in a way that makes everybody happy you listen to the the Celtics Radio right whatever I always look for I always look look for

Though those are the those are the called like after the game when they have highlights and stuff I I want I want the radio thing because you know Sean and Cedric I mean that’s that was that was it I mean we we would hear those when we were like with the Spurs

Or whatever and the excitement and stuff that Sean and Sean and said but bring to the the broadcast are great and then just to hear you know him make a shot or whatever and then to hear them that’s you know that’s you know you can’t you

Can’t put a price on that so yeah after games I I look for the highlights this to hear hear the audio and League Pass got you through when when you weren’t able to be at the games for yeah well actually throughout his whole career at this point right any of those games yeah

We usually plan some based on on schedule so so like if in Boston if they have like a home stand that fits and then this one kind of really fit because it had the Spurs and the nuggets and uh and and uh so that you know those are

Things or back to back like last year we went to to Charlotte so so it’s like so I don’t know if we’ be traveling much more because I mean in Charlotte when we finally got into the the arena at Charlotte and that’s when he ran into

Marcus Smart I was like oh we did all this to get here and then he’s out oh he’s probably not going to play the next game but he he ended up at least you got the family time yeah I played yeah there you go you you usually do Mark you know

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Choose the mileage package that fits you best and that’s it okay cool it’s it’s honestly pretty cool and it includes roadside assistance 24/7 car insurance and maintenance it’s all included in one bill all in one bill the only thing that is not included is the gas you put in

The tank and on top of that it’s cheaper it’s like 10 to 20% cheaper than buying or leasing a car and what are you doing right now I’m finding my next car all right well if you’re doing that make sure you use the code Rafters and you’ll

Get 100 free Miles when you sign up what’s funny is that your social media star began to rise for the famous play that all of us play byplay guys couldn’t call when it happened and here’s something you don’t know the next night before game seven Kevin Harland Dave

Pass and I had dinner here in the North End and my poor wife had to listen to the three play-by-play guys commiserate about the fact that we couldn’t call the play because nobody had any idea what had happened where were you for game game six and what inspired you to send

The tweet that you sent oh that the oh oh my God yeah that boy that’s my boy so I mean we were I was sitting on the couch and and we were watching the game and it was like oh no I can’t believe that you know Jimmy Butler made three

Free throws it’s like you make two overtime we take a chance whatever but he makes three and it was like oh boy so we were sitting on the couch and we just watched the whole play unfold and and Coen oh what’s going to happen dereck’s going to inbound cuz they they put your

Your best passer is going to inbound so he’s going to inbound and this has happened numerous times or whatever even in San Antonio because he would inbound it to Demar de rozan and then he would slide off and I kept going well maybe this time the pass will come back cuz

Cuz he spotted up to to shoot the three which is nerve-wracking as a parent cuz then that’s you know that’s it’s either going to go in or it’s not but then when he didn’t get the pass I saw him Dart from the the corner and smart shot was

Just perfect it just bounced I mean if it bounced to the right JT makes it and you know I my Twitter following takes a hit but it boun it bounces to the left dereck’s right there and and I’m like yeah he got he got that up I mean like

And you know I I followed that along I was looking for everything I was looking for your call and you say and we don’t know so I was like oh okay and then and then uh the national broadcast did the slow by slow and then it was like that’s

Out of his hands and just enough what was that moment like for you man I mean I know what it was like for me exhilarating I I was like that’s the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen in basketball what did it feel like to make

That play yeah it was it was crazy um I mean I felt like I got it off um as soon as it happened but you never really know you know like everybody was coming up to me and was like did you get off I’m like

Yeah I think so and then like it kind of was just silent in the gym for that little Split Second everybody’s looking up at the uh Jumbotron um and then as soon as that first replay showed it I got it off like uh just the team running to me and um

Just celebrating with me and uh I mean at time was like man we we lived fight another day um so that at the moment it was just crazy I don’t really know how to really explain it um just in the right place at the right

Time and I was just happy that we got another game and we were kept fighting so um just celebrating with the teammates and um just probably that little Split Second where everybody was just kind of looking up at the Jumbotron and something I I always remember it was

Awesome an awesome moment are you already do you already have that like clipped so that you can show your kids when they are able to understand what you did did you have to you got to have that ready for them like yep pops did that yeah I got it uh somewhere I got

The game ball in the house like I got uh this they sent this watch to me uh I guess if you hit a buzzer beard you get a watch and it plays the video so um I got some the watch plays the video it’s

Like in a box you open the box the Box plays the video God that’s awesome I know it was pretty cool um so I got some things that hopefully when they’re older they’ll they’ll enjoy and speaking of them HRI Hendrick and dexon um how much of what your father passed to you are

You going to try to pass on to them like how much has he impacted the way that you’ve become a father in the last couple of years yeah I mean he’s had a great example um the perfect role model um just for me personally I just want to

Uh to be there um I think being being there being present and supporting them is a big thing cuz that’s pretty much what he was and he game my had had any anything that we had like him and my mom were always there so uh just having that

As a role model is definitely meant a lot to me and obviously I just want to uh pass it down to the Next Generation just be there for uh Hendrick and daxon and uh so far it’s been it’s been fun uh I just keep growing bigger and bigger

Each day and doing different things each day and so it’s a it’s a lot of fun and um I mean obviously got great grandparents too so makes it it good for them it’s going to be tough to be there for everything though right I mean just with your line of work like that’s

Difficult I mean Shawn knows it right he’s been doing it for how how long now 12 years yeah we were talking about how I’ll watch my son’s playing hockey he’s 12 who he didn’t go to the barber shop but he has an unusual life like you did

So all of a sudden he’s in an elevator with me and then Derek will get on the elevator and he’s like you know he doesn’t know what you’re in between right when you live that sort of Backstage life but yeah you’re watching their hockey games on the iPad while

You’re you’re you’re managing your life and doing your job while trying to be a parent and as insanely different Derek as your life is it’s still the same thing you’re trying to be a parent and do your job yeah yeah it’s definitely a tough leaving um right now they don’t

Really know what it means when I leave um but uh I’ve always I’ve always was like when he first like when hendri was first doing like a lot of first I was like I just want to be there for when it happen happens and so luckily I’ve I’ve

Been there for all the the big first um and haven’t missed anything anything major like that but um uh yeah just anytime I could be there um obviously it makes it easier nowadays with the iPhones and FaceTime and and what not um to be there with not actually being

There but um I mean that those two kind of just changed my perspective on everything and have made me a better person a better player and hopefully I just got to tend to be a better father can you imagine so I’ve been with Cedric Maxwell for 20 something years now and

He would tell stories I would I don’t see my son on FaceTime for a few hours I’m like what’s he doing I want to find out what’s going on I want to talk to him about his day max would go on a road trip for two weeks it’s like see you

When I see you you know it was it’s impossible for me to comprehend what previous generations did in this same situation without without the phones it’s crazy yeah yeah it’s definitely crazy Richard I got to ask you because now you’re getting the perspective of the last couple years being able to see

Him be a dad I mean when I when my dad first became a grandfather I think yeah he felt Joys and being around his grandchild but it was like he lit up even more seeing my brother be a dad um and I hope to you know get to there in a

Few months from now but what’s it been like for you to to watch him be a dad and raise two little boys well it’s it’s really it’s amazing like like this morning you know they’re rolling on the he’s rolling on the ground and and H is

Laughing and H having joy and you know it’s it’s it it you know it’s amazing and so he kind of does things like on road trips so like when they left to go to sorono and he was like Hendrick two sleeps and you know he said Dax well you

Only got one sleep because because you know when they by the time they get in he’s Dax probably waking up so 4:30 in the morning right yeah so I mean it’s it’s it’s good I mean you you kind of have to be grounded you have to have a

Schedule you have to know how to handle different things and and and and be prepared for the unexpected you know it’s kind of like on the basketball court you never you never know something could happen and then boom you know like like the tip in you don’t expect it but

You just prepared and when you’re there you take advantage of it so kind of that that way with kids and you know he’s really he’s really he’s really good with them you know going up is like oh he’s never done this before what how is he

Going to how is he going to react and like that’s how I feel about myself right now with blooming in a few months you you’ll get you’ll get there you’ll figure it out yeah yeah I hope so tell me tell me I’m going to tell him who’s

About to be a new parent exactly how I describe it you can look at a roller coaster from afar and guess what it’s going to be like and you have a pretty good intellectual sense till you’re on it you have no earthly idea what you’re about to Embark upon yeah it’s crazy but

I I’ve always been scared of whole kids like I got a lot of cousins I didn’t hold them when they were babies like I I just try to stay away but uh I don’t know when I got to the hospital and like get that’s my kid like it’s just

Different what’s your favorite part of being a dad uh I think especially like right now like whatever I do on the court like that doesn’t mean anything um just going home like I got to be there to throw the ball with him or hit the balloon up in

The air like whatever it might be that he wants to do that day so like just having that perspective that like this is what’s important um obviously everything I do on the basketball courts uh important but compared to that it’s not so um just every day just having

That unconditional love is is great and Richard we already touched on the putback right I know you were proud in that moment but what’s the proudest moment you’ve ever had of this kid sitting to your right uh well well it’s kind of like public relations and things so like like the

Fan base or whatever so like when he comes to shoot out he comes out to do you know pregame warm-ups and people are cheering and and you know they’re they’re calling his name and chanting Derek White’s and allar another city but but but I mean just the the other thing

Like you know you know with the the family and he was signing his his his name and sign language and you know doing different things and the the different effects he has like on the community because he does a lot of stuff for Special Olympics and that’s that’s

Something that’s near and dear to our family so that’s that’s pretty pretty cool that he you know what he what he does from that that respect and but the best part is like if we’re walking or doing something at uh you know in Parker something and and parents come up and

Goes oh my son or daughter you know just says Derek is the best person in the world and there’s no better compliment I mean you know oh you could score 27 points but if they want and you could not be a good person but to have parents

Come up and say your son is just the most humble and we like the way he carries himself that’s that’s the best gift the parent can get that’s what this is all about and isn’t it funny because that is what is real and that is the

Real world and you have tried to become the common sense voice in the fake world the social media world for Celtics and that is listen there’s a societal thing right about what that’s become and people feeling free to say things they would never in a million years say and

That’s why it’s it’s interesting to segue from that because again when you see real people have real interactions puts in perspective what you try to deal with before we get into your role here Derek what is social media in your life how much of the things that we’re

Going to be talking about here and he’s an Allstar he’s not an All-Star this stat matters this stat doesn’t matter this is the this guy’s better than this guy how much of that is in your Consciousness or in your world on a day-to-day basis um I mean I think definitely like

Early in my career it made more of a difference um what people thought and what people were saying but now it’s just like there’s really nothing you can do um somebody’s going to be frustrated with whatever you do so um you don’t really take the good that high you don’t

Take the bad that low and so um it doesn’t really affect me any especially people that don’t really know what’s going on and uh the things that are going on in dayto day but um obviously he really enjoys it and um he’s been extremely positive this whole time so

Like I just I just let him do uh whatever he wants to do and um it’s cool to see everybody uh welcome with open arms and love him so much so it just makes it a lot better why do you why do you enjoy it and here’s what I’m getting

At eventually the question I’ve been waiting all day to understand are people like you people like me that tried to bring sense of Civility or information or whatever are we outside are we outside our minds in this place Derek for those of you listening and not watching on YouTube Derek is

Nodding like yep you’re outside your mind because that’s right I sometimes think of it as a playground where you have a great chance to to play on all these toys and do all this stuff and have fun but there’s so many kids that just want to

Graffiti the whole place up and make it a bad place to be that is it is it worth it yeah I I I think it’s I think it’s worth it I mean you know from my perspective it’s put out information cuz I rarely come out there and say oh you you know my

Son’s this my son’s that or whatever I just put reality so you know like the daily after the game he allowed so many points and possessions and you know steals blocks and and and and whatever you just put information out there people can do whatever they do and like

He saying control what you can control so you you you know you know I think I another thing is you know some people want to get into things that are opinion based I mean we’re talking the NBA we’re talking the talent level is out out the

Wazoo here it is really they are really gifted players throughout the league uh no matter what the team’s record is and then to say this person’s better than another person you know that that’s fine it doesn’t that doesn’t impact anything so now you just you know you put the

Information out there people do with it what they will um I mean at first it kind of got to me so I was like a little bit like you know you got to you got to people are arguing facts or Not facts or or Legacy stuff it’s like it’s like you

Know whatever you you you you like player X and no matter what player X does you have best case scenario for player X player X could shoot two for 22 but you know it doesn’t doesn’t matter to you that person’s still going to be that and so once I come to that

Realization it’s like just put the information out there let people complain but the main thing is the the the main thing is at the end of the day you know certain fan bases say Derek can’t play okay he can’t play but since he’s been here he’s won 87 games I don’t know

What I don’t know what that means I just know that that’s 87 games and you wish you had somebody that your team won 87 games in less than two years that is a fact and yeah I was I put that out recently since Derek was traded here he

Has more wins than anybody else in the NBA Pete Rose used to say he talked about the hit record whatever Pete Rose loved to say he played in more winning games than any player in major league history that was his favorite stat and we don’t really reward winning we make

It individual and that is the reason people are chanting Derek and Allstar is because it’s about winning games at the end of the day it’s been fun to see it’s been fun to have this conversation for anyone out there who doesn’t follow which I’m sure everyone does rambling

Wreck 34 how did you come up with that by the way that’s another good question uh I went to Georgia Tech and my basketball number was 34 okay so so uh just coming up with something and it was like okay that that’s taken that’s taken oh well that’s not taken so so then

That’s where I just kind of went with it there well if anyone out there wants some uh grounded information some actual statistical information that is not opinion it’s more fact that’s the place you go um Richard we appreciate you coming on DK appreciate you coming

Around it it’s been awesome to uh to see you not only win a ton of games but have that amazing moment last season and help the Celtics get on the verge of playpl guys it wasn’t but okay yeah fair enough U but to help the Celtics get you know

On the doorstep of trying to win a championship here and Richard it’s been fun to see you be along for the ride on on Twitter we can’t wait to see more of it thank you awesome thank you Guys

Derrick White went from receiving no D1 scholarship offers in high school to becoming a star two-way player for the Boston Celtics, and his dad, Richard, has been there for the entire ride.

Listen as Derrick and Richard join Marc and Sean to remember the journey, their father-son relationship, Derrick himself becoming a dad, and what they were both thinking after Derrick’s epic putback layup at the buzzer of Game 6 of the 2023 Eastern Conference Finals. Oh, and they may or may not touch on Richard’s newfound fame on X (formerly known as Twitter) as a stats-based voice within the NBA community.

0:50 – Derrick on his dad’s social media, and Richard growing up a Celtics fan
4:40 – How Derrick learned to impact winning and be a chameleon
8:17 – Derrick calling Richard to tell him he’d been traded to the Celtics
11:32 – How their father-son relationship impacted Derrick on and off the court
16:33 – Reliving the buzzer-beating putback in Game 6 of the 2023 ECF
20:28 – Derrick becoming a dad, and Richard being a grandfather
27:54 – The world of social media and Richard’s participation in it

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